Re: CS>Blue Moons (Help)

[Bob Banever]

Steve,

 MMS stands for Miracle Mineral Supplement.  It is ultimately chlorine 
dioxide made from 28% sodium chlorite diluted with food acid (vinegar, citric 
acid, lemon juice) and water.   

 Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 7:50 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Blue Moons (Help)


Do we have a file on this group that explains all of the buzzwords and 
acronyms?

I'm not sure what MMS is.

Steve


--- On Mon, 11/30/09, arthur rambo  wrote:


  From: arthur rambo 
  Subject: Re: CS>Blue Moons (Help)
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:32 PM


  I developed the blue moons after a few years of cs, as well. They 
faded in the fingers after beginning MMS. for a year. Now I only have slight on 
the thumbs. 




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  From: john freese 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 9:14:33 PM
  Subject: CS>Blue Moons (Help)


   Hello,

  I have been taking about 1to 1 1/2 ounces of crystal clear per day of 
12 to 15 PPM CS for about 3 years with no problems. But about 3 weeks ago my 
wife (the non believer in CS) noticed the moons on my fingers were turning 
blue. I had not noticed this before she said something. I was under the 
impression ingesting this amount and strength would not turn your moons blue. 
Could the blue moons come from something other than CS? I stopped taking my CS 
that day and started taking selenium, and oral chelation. 3 weeks later the 
moons appear to be darker. I would appreciate any input. Thank you, John. 




   

Re: CS>MS cure - Comment

[Jonathan B. Britten]

Arterial plaque, I have read, may form in response to inflammation 
resulting from pathogens.


If so,  EIS could have an effect by killing the pathogens that cause 
the buildup.


Eventually, the body might clear out the plaque.

It may be that something similar occurs in the brain, which might be 
the reason EIS was reported useful by one former member of this list, 
now deceased.


This is speculation but might be useful to anyone doing research on the 
topic.






On Monday, Nov 30, 2009, at 03:22 Asia/Tokyo, Norton, Steve wrote:

I guess that I should add that the CS testamonial also got me thinking 
about why the treatment helped at all since silver does not affect 
arterial plaque at all to my knowledge. It may be that the H2O2 played 
a more significant role than just increasing the effectiveness of the 
CS by increasing oxygen to the brain. Thereby reducing the effect of 
the partially blocked artery. I see this as possibly an additional 
support of oxygen therapies such as H2O2 and ozone.

- Steve N





From: Norton, Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sun Nov 29 12:00:37 2009
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure - Comment

I appreciated the post. My first thoughts were if serrpeptase or EDTA 
could clear the blood flow without surgery. But both supplements have 
been discussed recently and I felt a comment would be redundant. I did 
file the info for future reference.

- Steve N





From: craehow...@juno.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sun Nov 29 07:11:40 2009
Subject: CS>MS cure - Comment

After reading the original post (the website indicated) I find it 
interesting that comments were not along that line.  Yes, it very sad 
that someone we knew who indicated that CS had made a significant 
difference in her condition lost her life; and we need to pass along 
her protocols that she shared with her story; but also when we become 
aware of a breakthrough (CS or not) that also needs to be discussed.


If it's blockage or a build at the base of the brain...   is the 
surgery indicated the only methodology for removal.  Also, does anyone 
have or know of someone who has knowledge of this procedure.   As we 
all know (with CS use) that there is skepticism and total disregard by 
most of the medical profession regarding this. 


I would be interested in hearing more comments regarding the initial 
subject.


connie




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Re: CS>Thorvin Kelp - bulk

[Annie B Smythe]

Wow, Thank you for the link Dan! Merry Christmas 
to me, LOL.



Annie




Dan Nave wrote:

Try this!...

http://www.7springsfarm.com/catalog.html#Kelpforanimals

50# for $54.

Or try this!...

http://www.willyougreen.com/products/Thorvin-Kelp-%252d-50%23-Bag.html

55# for $54.

Dan


On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Sandy  wrote:

Here is another supplier for Thorvin and they sell it in 50lb drums.

http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/kelp.html

Scroll all the way down to get the size and prices.

Sandy


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Re: CS>[FW]sophie_langmuir_2003.pdf (application/pdf Object)

[Garnet]

Scroll down to the link.

Garnet

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Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA


Renee wrote:

No, there's no attachment to mine.
 
/---Original Message---/
 

 
I attempted to send this a couple of days ago. If anyone gets it on the 
silver-list, I would like to know. I have mail program problems...and 
especially when I try to use two of them to communicate with each other.
This is (in my opinion)quite useful information on what, exactly, occurs 
in nominal liposome formation. the comments on spontaneous formation are 
especially useful for the lay-person audience.

Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.









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http://bernstein.harvard.edu/papers/sophie_langmuir_2003.pdf

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Re: CS>[FW]sophie_langmuir_2003.pdf (application/pdf Object)

[Renee]

No, there's no attachment to mine.

---Original Message---
 


I attempted to send this a couple of days ago. If anyone gets it on the
silver-list, I would like to know. I have mail program problems...and
especially when I try to use two of them to communicate with each other. 
This is (in my opinion)quite useful information on what, exactly, occurs in
nominal liposome formation. the comments on spontaneous formation are
especially useful for the lay-person audience. 
Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 










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Date : Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:53:58 -0600

From : Brooks Bradley 

To : brooks76...@lycos.com



http://bernstein.harvard.edu/papers/sophie_langmuir_2003.pdf 


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CS>Thorvin Kelp - bulk

[Dan Nave]

Try this!...

http://www.7springsfarm.com/catalog.html#Kelpforanimals

50# for $54.

Or try this!...

http://www.willyougreen.com/products/Thorvin-Kelp-%252d-50%23-Bag.html

55# for $54.

Dan


On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 10:37 PM, Sandy  wrote:

Here is another supplier for Thorvin and they sell it in 50lb drums.

http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/kelp.html

Scroll all the way down to get the size and prices.

Sandy


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CS>Hematoma

[Del]

Hi:

My brother in law has a huge hematoma as a result of hip replacement surgery 
(which we advised him NOT to do).
Anyone have any experience with clearing this type of thing?  
He does not want to drain it surgically.
My wife suggested leeches.
Any other good suggestions?

Del

Re: CS>Blue Moons (Help)

[Steve]

Do we have a file on this group that explains all of the buzzwords and acronyms?

I'm not sure what MMS is.

Steve


--- On Mon, 11/30/09, arthur rambo  wrote:

From: arthur rambo 
Subject: Re: CS>Blue Moons (Help)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 9:32 PM

I developed the blue moons after a few years of cs, as well. They faded in the 
fingers after beginning MMS. for a year. Now I only have slight on the thumbs. 





From: john freese 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 9:14:33 PM
Subject: CS>Blue Moons (Help)




 Hello,
I have been taking about 1to 1 1/2 ounces of crystal clear per day of 12 to 15 
PPM CS for about 3 years with no problems. But about 3 weeks ago my wife (the 
non believer in CS) noticed the moons on my fingers were turning blue. I had 
not noticed this before she said something. I was under the impression 
ingesting this amount and strength would not turn your moons blue. Could the 
blue moons come from something other than CS? I stopped taking my CS that day 
and started taking selenium, and oral chelation. 3 weeks later the moons appear 
to be darker. I would appreciate any input. Thank you, John. 



  


  

Re: CS>[FW]sophie_langmuir_2003.pdf (application/pdf Object)

[Annie B Smythe]

Thank you Brooks:)

Annie

Brooks Bradley wrote:
  I attempted to send this a couple of days ago. If anyone gets it on 
the silver-list, I would like to know. I have mail program 
problems...and especially when I try to use two of them to communicate 
with each other.
This is (in my opinion)quite useful information on what, exactly, occurs 
in nominal liposome formation. the comments on spontaneous formation are 
especially useful for the lay-person audience.

Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.









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http://bernstein.harvard.edu/papers/sophie_langmuir_2003.pdf

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Re: CS>Blue Moons (Help)

[arthur rambo]

I developed the blue moons after a few years of cs, as well. They faded in the 
fingers after beginning MMS. for a year. Now I only have slight on the thumbs. 





From: john freese 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 9:14:33 PM
Subject: CS>Blue Moons (Help)


 Hello,
I have been taking about 1to 1 1/2 ounces of crystal clear per day of 12 to 15 
PPM CS for about 3 years with no problems. But about 3 weeks ago my wife (the 
non believer in CS) noticed the moons on my fingers were turning blue. I had 
not noticed this before she said something. I was under the impression 
ingesting this amount and strength would not turn your moons blue. Could the 
blue moons come from something other than CS? I stopped taking my CS that day 
and started taking selenium, and oral chelation. 3 weeks laterthe moons appear 
to be darker. I would appreciate any input. Thank you, John. 



  

Re: CS>[FW]sophie_langmuir_2003.pdf (application/pdf Object)

[Clayton Family]

 got it, thanks Brooks.

Kathryn

On Nov 30, 2009, at 7:56 PM, Brooks Bradley wrote:

> I attempted to send this a couple of days ago. If anyone gets it on the 
> silver-list, I would like to know. I have mail program problems...and 
> especially when I try to use two of them to communicate with each other. 
> This is (in my opinion)quite useful information on what, exactly, occurs in 
> nominal liposome formation. the comments on spontaneous formation are 
> especially useful for the lay-person audience. 
> Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Date : Sat, 28 Nov 2009 10:53:58 -0600
> 
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> 
> To : brooks76...@lycos.com
> 
> 
> 
> http://bernstein.harvard.edu/papers/sophie_langmuir_2003.pdf 
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CS>Blue Moons (Help)

[john freese]

 Hello,
I have been taking about 1to 1 1/2 ounces of crystal clear per day of 12 to 15 
PPM CS for about 3 years with no problems. But about 3 weeks ago my wife (the 
non believer in CS) noticed the moons on my fingers were turning blue. I had 
not noticed this before she said something. I was under the impression 
ingesting this amount and strength would not turn your moons blue. Could the 
blue moons come from something other than CS? I stopped taking my CS that day 
and started taking selenium, and oral chelation. 3 weeks laterthe moons appear 
to be darker. I would appreciate any input. Thank you, John. 


  

CS>[FW]sophie_langmuir_2003.pdf (application/pdf Object)

[Brooks Bradley]

I attempted to send this a couple of days ago.  If anyone gets it on the silver-list, I would like to know.  I have mail program problems...and especially when I try to use two of them to communicate with each other.
 This is (in my opinion)quite useful information on what, exactly, occurs in nominal liposome formation.  the comments on spontaneous formation are especially useful for the lay-person audience.
 Sincerely,   Brooks Bradley.




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http://bernstein.harvard.edu/papers/sophie_langmuir_2003.pdf



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RE: CS>Ozonated oil

[Norton, Steve]

Ozonated oil is oil that has had ozone bubbled through it for a number
of hours. Fully ozonated oil takes about 3 weeks to make. There are also
ozonated oils that are called "light" ozonated oils that have shorter
preparation time. The most common oil used is olive oil but nut oils and
coconut oil can also be used. Ozonating the  oil creates peroxides in
the oil that are somewhat time released and in the case of fully
ozonated oil, reasonably high in peroxides. The links below may help.

 

 http://educate-yourself.org/ozone/

http://www.ozonatedoilonline.com/ozonatedoilarticles.html

 

-  Steve N

 

From: Fuzzmom [mailto:fuzzm...@frontier.com] 
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 5:07 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Ozonated oil

 

what is ozinatded oil and what does it do? i've never heard of it
before. 

- Original Message - 

From: ejohns9...@aol.com 

To: silver-list@eskimo.com 

Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 7:59 PM

Subject: Re: CS>Ozonated oil

 

In a message dated 11/29/2009 6:05:16 P.M. Central Standard
Time, stephen.nor...@ngc.com writes:

Has anyone used ozonated oil? What was your experience?
Was it beneficial? I may try some but would like to know if it really
does provide oxygen.
Thanks,
 Steve N 

We have used it for years.  We get it from Dr Pressman who we
also bought our ozone machine from.

An interesting thing happened this past summer.  My son-in-law
is a RN and so is my daughter.  He is back in school to be a Physician's
Assistant so you can see it's all drugs with him.  While mowing the
grass he ran under a limb that cut his back.  My daughter put Ozonated
oil on it and by the next day he said it was already itching like it was
healing very fast.  My daughter told him how good it was since I try to
get them to use natural things.  He asked her why they always had to use
voodoo and what was wrong with Neosporin ointment.  However, he was
impressed.  My grandson has horrible acne but as long as he uses the
OOO,

he looks really good.  We also used it in his treatment with 2
cases of MRSA.  Here are some testimonies from Dr Pressman's page on The
Story of Ozone.

 

http://www.o3center.org/Testimonies/index.html

 

Edith

Re: CS>volts, amps, other methods

[Marshall Dudley]

Richard Goodwin wrote:

Hello,

I'm a new subscriber to this list, having arrived here by a very 
circuitous route over a few years of reading about colloidal silver 
and how to make it.  And how not to make it.  Marshall has been a lot 
of help recently in this respect.


I'm sure this has already been discussed, but without being able to 
consult the archives, I'd like to ask this anyway:


I'm looking, as is everyone else probably, for the best way to make 
colloidal silver.  I'm assuming that colloidal content is preferable 
to ionic content.  At least one website claims that it is not possible 
to make good colloidal silver at home, as the process is too complicated.
That is one reason we often refer to what we make, and like as EIS, 
electrically isolated silver.  It is not possible to make 100% colloidal 
silver the way we make it, but then we really don't want pure colloidal 
silver anyway.  We have found that a combination of colloidal and ionic 
is best, which is what EIS is.


If that is true, then something else has been keeping me and my wife 
cold- and flu- free for the past 3 years, and has cured both of us of 
lyme disease.  :-)  I suspect I have been making some mixture of 
colloidal and ionic.

Likely about 90% ionic and 10% colloidal.


More to the point -- if I am going to use electricity, silver, and 
distilled water to make CS, what method will produce the highest 
colloidal content:  what voltage, AC or DC, what current?
Both HVAC and low voltage methods will produce between 10 and 15% 
colloid, and 85 to 90% ionic.  Don't worry about the ratio between the 
two, for the most active go for the smallest particle size on the 
colloid part, IE crystal clear EIS.  If you have yellow EIS, you can 
usually reduce the particle size by adding a few drops of hydrogen 
peroxide per glass after it has sat for a couple of days.


Marshall


And are there perhaps some other methods, like nanomaterialstore.com, 
who makes silver nanoparticles that you could perhaps then mix with 
distilled water, that might be even better?  Certainly not cheaper, at 
$90/gram of their product.


Cheers!
Dick Goodwin



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Re: CS>volts, amps, other methods

[Richard Goodwin]

Hi Dee,

Thanks for that info.  I have been using electrophoresis power supplies I found 
on ebay.  2000 volts 200 ma.  They give it a good fast start with distilled 
water, and I have to keep turning them down as the concentration increases.  I 
try to keep the current below 50 ma.  Maybe I'll try for even lower and see 
what happens.

For a while I got into arcing it at fairly high current, and have gotten as 
high as 300 PPM that way, but Marshall tells me that I was just making silver 
nitrate (from the nitrogen in the air), which is definitely something I don't 
want to ingest.

So I'm back now to not arcing it. 

And looking for other methods that might work.  Low voltage sounds good too, 
and so does AC.  They all seem to offer different pros and cons.

Thanks,
Dick




From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 3:45:17 PM
Subject: Re: CS>volts, amps, other methods

Most of us on the list make EIS ie. electrically isolated silver.  We do this 
by having silver electrodes immersed in distilled water and a low voltage 
current being passed through.  Some have automatic generators and others 
homemade ones.  The silver produced is mostly ionic and some colloidal, 
arguably the best combination.  It works brilliantly for me and my family and 
friends, dogs etc.,  I have a Silver Puppy which is made by someone on this 
list, but there are others i.e SilverGen by Trem amongst them.  Mine is great 
and really easy to use. dee


On 30 Nov 2009, at 20:33, Richard Goodwin wrote:

Hello,
>
>
>I'm a new subscriber to this list, having arrived here by a very circuitous 
>route over a few years of reading about colloidal silver and how to make it.  
>And how not to make it.  Marshall has been a lot of help recently in this 
>respect.
>
>
>I'm sure this has already been discussed, but without being able to consult 
>the archives, I'd like to ask this anyway:
>
>

Re: CS>H202 - Snopes

[arthur rambo]

I've injected ozone directly, 50cc, once per day, 300+ times. Got the viral 
load down to 66,000, but couldn't quite finish on acount of the oxidative 
stress.  Anti-oxidants should be stressed to counter the oxidative effects.  I 
now use ozonated saline solution 1-2x a week to treat hcv, and find this is the 
"friendliest" and effective of all, except this much sodium 500ml, introduced 
in a  short time, raises the blood pressure,  So I can only do a couple per 
week.
 




From: Richard Goodwin 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 3:26:01 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - Snopes


Hi -- I believe ozone is O3, and H2O2 is Hydrogen Peroxide.

Dick




From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 2:48:28 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - Snopes

Is ozone H202?  dee

On 30 Nov 2009, at 15:44, Norton, Steve wrote:

> I think you are right that they are referring to intravenous use. See:
> 
> http://educate-yourself.org/ozone/
> "A second technique is to introduce the ozone directly into the
> bloodstream via intravenous injection. The idea of intravenous injection
> has raised concern with some people concerning the notion of gas
> embolism which might lead to a heart attack or blockage in the lungs.
> Gas embolisms, however, do not occur with pure ozone. Air, which is
> largely composed of 80% nitrogen and 20 % oxygen, will create a gas
> bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. Nitrogen
> will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not
> ozone. The rate of ozone delivery and the very small needle used to
> inject the ozone, guarantee no possibility of gas embolism. Do not allow
> this bogus fear tactic to keep you from investigating this highly
> effective and safe therapy!
> 


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Re: CS>H202 - Snopes

[Richard Goodwin]

Because your original question was:  "Is ozone H202?  dee"

Cheers!
Dick




From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 3:40:23 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - Snopes

I was just wondering how the question of ozone had arisen when I had posed one 
about H202?  dee


On 30 Nov 2009, at 19:59, Norton, Steve wrote:

> Ozone is usually O3 but can also be O4, O5, ...
> H2O2 is not ozone.
> - Steve N
> 


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Re: CS>volts, amps, other methods

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Most of us on the list make EIS ie. electrically isolated silver.  We do this 
by having silver electrodes immersed in distilled water and a low voltage 
current being passed through.  Some have automatic generators and others 
homemade ones.  The silver produced is mostly ionic and some colloidal, 
arguably the best combination.  It works brilliantly for me and my family and 
friends, dogs etc.,  I have a Silver Puppy which is made by someone on this 
list, but there are others i.e SilverGen by Trem amongst them.  Mine is great 
and really easy to use. dee

On 30 Nov 2009, at 20:33, Richard Goodwin wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm a new subscriber to this list, having arrived here by a very circuitous 
> route over a few years of reading about colloidal silver and how to make it.  
> And how not to make it.  Marshall has been a lot of help recently in this 
> respect.
> 
> I'm sure this has already been discussed, but without being able to consult 
> the archives, I'd like to ask this anyway:
> 

Re: CS>H202 - Snopes

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I was just wondering how the question of ozone had arisen when I had posed one 
about H202?  dee

 
On 30 Nov 2009, at 19:59, Norton, Steve wrote:

> Ozone is usually O3 but can also be O4, O5, ...
> H2O2 is not ozone.
> - Steve N
> 


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CS>volts, amps, other methods

[Richard Goodwin]

Hello,

I'm a new subscriber to this list, having arrived here by a very circuitous 
route over a few years of reading about colloidal silver and how to make it.  
And how not to make it.  Marshall has been a lot of help recently in this 
respect.

I'm sure this has already been discussed, but without being able to consult the 
archives, I'd like to ask this anyway:

I'm looking, as is everyone else probably, for the best way to make colloidal 
silver.  I'm assuming that colloidal content is preferable to ionic content.  
At least one website claims that it is not possible to make good colloidal 
silver at home, as the process is too complicated.

If that is true, then something else has been keeping me and my wife cold- and 
flu- free for the past 3 years, and has cured both of us of lyme disease.  :-)  
I suspect I have been making some mixture of colloidal and ionic.

More to the point -- if I am going to use electricity, silver, and distilled 
water to make CS, what method will produce the highest colloidal content:  what 
voltage, AC or DC, what current?

And are there perhaps some other methods, like nanomaterialstore.com, who makes 
silver nanoparticles that you could perhaps then mix with distilled water, that 
might be even better?  Certainly not cheaper, at $90/gram of their product.

Cheers!
Dick Goodwin

Re: CS>H202 - Snopes

[Richard Goodwin]

Hi -- I believe ozone is O3, and H2O2 is Hydrogen Peroxide.

Dick




From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, November 30, 2009 2:48:28 PM
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - Snopes

Is ozone H202?  dee

On 30 Nov 2009, at 15:44, Norton, Steve wrote:

> I think you are right that they are referring to intravenous use. See:
> 
> http://educate-yourself.org/ozone/
> "A second technique is to introduce the ozone directly into the
> bloodstream via intravenous injection. The idea of intravenous injection
> has raised concern with some people concerning the notion of gas
> embolism which might lead to a heart attack or blockage in the lungs.
> Gas embolisms, however, do not occur with pure ozone. Air, which is
> largely composed of 80% nitrogen and 20 % oxygen, will create a gas
> bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. Nitrogen
> will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not
> ozone. The rate of ozone delivery and the very small needle used to
> inject the ozone, guarantee no possibility of gas embolism. Do not allow
> this bogus fear tactic to keep you from investigating this highly
> effective and safe therapy!
> 


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RE: CS>H202 - Snopes

[Norton, Steve]

Ozone is usually O3 but can also be O4, O5, ...
H2O2 is not ozone.
 - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 11:48 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>H202 - Snopes

Is ozone H202?  dee

On 30 Nov 2009, at 15:44, Norton, Steve wrote:

> I think you are right that they are referring to intravenous use. See:
> 
> http://educate-yourself.org/ozone/
> "A second technique is to introduce the ozone directly into the
> bloodstream via intravenous injection. The idea of intravenous
injection
> has raised concern with some people concerning the notion of gas
> embolism which might lead to a heart attack or blockage in the lungs.
> Gas embolisms, however, do not occur with pure ozone. Air, which is
> largely composed of 80% nitrogen and 20 % oxygen, will create a gas
> bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. Nitrogen
> will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not
> ozone. The rate of ozone delivery and the very small needle used to
> inject the ozone, guarantee no possibility of gas embolism. Do not
allow
> this bogus fear tactic to keep you from investigating this highly
> effective and safe therapy!
> 


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Re: CS>H202 - Snopes

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Is ozone H202?  dee

On 30 Nov 2009, at 15:44, Norton, Steve wrote:

> I think you are right that they are referring to intravenous use. See:
> 
> http://educate-yourself.org/ozone/
> "A second technique is to introduce the ozone directly into the
> bloodstream via intravenous injection. The idea of intravenous injection
> has raised concern with some people concerning the notion of gas
> embolism which might lead to a heart attack or blockage in the lungs.
> Gas embolisms, however, do not occur with pure ozone. Air, which is
> largely composed of 80% nitrogen and 20 % oxygen, will create a gas
> bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. Nitrogen
> will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not
> ozone. The rate of ozone delivery and the very small needle used to
> inject the ozone, guarantee no possibility of gas embolism. Do not allow
> this bogus fear tactic to keep you from investigating this highly
> effective and safe therapy!
> 


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Re: CS>Arterial plaque - Comment

[Marshall Dudley]

Neville Munn wrote:
As a layman I have pondered this question for several years, and 
seeing as you raised the notion I figured now would be a good time to 
seek some clarification.
 
EIS/CS contains both ionic and particulate silver does it not, but as 
the particulate content comprises clusters of ions which have 
aggregated they therefore would form a crystal or snowflake type 
structure.  Now, as these tiny 'structures?' are circulated through 
the blood would they not have some abrasive effect on the walls of 
veins, arteries etc over time?
 


Silver will not form a snowflake type crystal, those are only formed by 
hexagonal compounds like water.  Silver tends to aggregate into 
something that looks more like gravel.  If you look under a microscope 
you will find huge numbers of nutrients that clump like gravel of 
different sizes. The body is well equiped to handle such shapes both in 
the stomach and intestines as well as blood veins.


Marshall


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Re: CS>Use of high ppm CS

[Marshall Dudley]

That seems excessive for the citric acid.  That would produce over 2000 
ppm  silver citrate if you ran it to completion.


Marshall

Norton, Steve wrote:


You need to use powdered citric acid. I use 1/8 cup for 2 liters 
water. The citric acid increases the conductivity of the solution so 
you cannot use an automated CS generator. Also if the generator uses 
current limiting it will take a long time to get to a high ppm. A 
manual setup without current limiting is best. Also, a battery powered 
setup may not have enough current capability.

 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: leslie3...@windstream.net 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Cc: Norton, Steve
Sent: Wed Nov 25 23:08:58 2009
Subject: Re: CS>Use of high ppm CS

Hummm. How much and what kind of citric acid? Lemon juice or vinegar 
do?? Would the high ppm be ok to drink or just gargling or spraying on 
your skin??

Leslie
 "Norton wrote:
> Silver citrate is made by adding citric acid to the distilled water 
before making CS. It allows you to make high ppm silver citrate.
> I read on silvermedicine 
http://www.silvermedicine.org/h2o2archives.html about using CS plus 
H2O2. I think you would need to mix the two just before use. Or try  
H2O2 with 10% DMSO.

>  - Steve N
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Leslie 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Wed Nov 25 17:40:39 2009
> Subject: Re: CS>Use of high ppm CS
>
> Is silver citrate when you overcook as the 200 PPM?? My grandson has 
some infected teeth and has had a time. I had recommended peroxide as 
well as CS but didn't seem to take care of it.

>
> Leslie
>




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CS>cataract

[dingyung49]

Hi,
 
   From reading the past posts about naturally treating cataracts either 
coconut water/flax oil, I started experimenting it last week.  I used fresh 
coconut water and later I put drops of cs. I did twice and not sure it helps my 
eyes.Feeling a little bit of watering of my eyes next day.    In the back of my 
mind, I am worry eye infection and hesitate to do it.  Does anyone ever try it 
and succeed?  how many times a day?  Not sure shall I spend money buying C-see 
eye drops.  My doctor wanted seeing me in half year for the possibility of eye 
surgery, which I don't like go foward.  Helen

rg> wrote:


From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
Subject: Re: CS>h202
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, November 30, 2009, 4:16 AM


but when I put the 3% into my CS it went a murky green!  This is why I bought 
the 35% but am now worried about its safety as I know you have to be really 
careful handling it.  dee


On 29 Nov 2009, at 22:10, Shirley Reed wrote:

>  W.C.Douglas mentions that knowledgeable people come down on different sides 
>of the fence regarding oral intake of h202.  So he comes down on neither side 
>and just reports both sides of the issue.  But he does say that if one decides 
>on the oral approach, the dose should not exceed 10 drops of the 3% three 
>times a day on an empty stomach.  To be on the safe side, be sure to check 
>this out as I may not recall the correct figures!!  I think they're right but 
>it is your neck so check it out!!   Also, somewhere someone said that the 
>Birdman of Alcatraz was only allowed to use the 3% solution on the birds he 
>saved, and there were apparently a lot of them.  That was the only 
>'medication' he was allowed to access and it seems to have worked well.  All 
>the strengths of h202 use stabilizers and I was unable to understand the 
>relative toxicities of the various chemicals and their 
>concentrations.   Douglas himself recommends the 3% as he feels it is
 sufficient and
> the extra h202 is not worth the extra money.    pj
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: CS>Use of high ppm CS

[Marshall Dudley]

Silver citrate is made by brewing in distilled water in which has had 
citric acid added.  It can be brewed up to around 280 ppm.


Marshall

Leslie wrote:

Is silver citrate when you overcook as the 200 PPM?? My grandson has some 
infected teeth and has had a time. I had recommended peroxide as well as CS but 
didn't seem to take care of it.

Leslie



- Original Message 
From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, May 21, 2009 4:57:50 AM
Subject: RE: CS>Use of high ppm CS



..never hurts to know sumptin...and, of course, you are mindful about 
volume and duration of use at 200 PPM.


Ode



At 09:53 AM 5/20/2009 -0500, you wrote:
  

Yes, I made my own silver citrate. I actually didn't expect the silver
citrate to work if the CS/DMSO and the penicillin were not working and
was pleasantly surprised when it did.
  - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:01 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Use of high ppm CS



Whatever works, works.
Did you make your own silver citrate?

Ode


At 06:07 AM 5/19/2009 -0500, you wrote:


Could be. I do use hydrogen peroxide once daily but I did not try it
periodically or with DMSO. I will remember that for the next time.
- Steve N


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From: Dee Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tue May 19 05:57:20 2009
Subject: Re: CS>Use of high ppm CS

I think hydrogen perroxide with DMSO would have worked on this Steve.
Dee

---Original Message---

From: Norton, Steve
Date: 19/05/2009 03:39:39
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Use of high ppm CS


I recently had some dental work done that caused or spread an infection
  
to my tongue and under the tongue. The dentist put me on penicillin and
  
I used EIS with DMSO to no effect by either. Finally I started rinsing

my mouth with 200 ppm silver citrate every 3 to 4 hours and it
eliminated the infection in less than 2 days. I could tell an
improvement after the first use of the SC.
Just an FYI.
  - Steve N

  

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RE: CS>H202 - Snopes

[Norton, Steve]

I think you are right that they are referring to intravenous use. See:

http://educate-yourself.org/ozone/
 "A second technique is to introduce the ozone directly into the
bloodstream via intravenous injection. The idea of intravenous injection
has raised concern with some people concerning the notion of gas
embolism which might lead to a heart attack or blockage in the lungs.
Gas embolisms, however, do not occur with pure ozone. Air, which is
largely composed of 80% nitrogen and 20 % oxygen, will create a gas
bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not ozone. Nitrogen
will create a gas bubble in the blood at atmospheric pressure, but not
ozone. The rate of ozone delivery and the very small needle used to
inject the ozone, guarantee no possibility of gas embolism. Do not allow
this bogus fear tactic to keep you from investigating this highly
effective and safe therapy!
 
 - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2009 12:06 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>H202 - Snopes

Snopes commented that it would be unwise to use H202 internally because
it can cause bubbles in the blood. Although it probably means
intravenous application I wonder if there are any contraindications to
using it orally, as Snopes advises that there are.  Any comments?  dee

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Re: CS>Ozonated oil

[Saralou Pedigo]

It certainly speeds healing whether it provides oxygen or not.

I've only ever used Ozonated Olive Oil from Saul Pressman  //
www.aloeessence.com/naturesgifts.html  and it is marvelous.  I keep the
large jar in the freezer and slice off chunks for the smaller jar I keep in
the fridge.  When I need some, I slice a tiny bit off and apply.  Cuts,
scrapes, sores heal very quickly when it is applied.

Because I keep it in the kitchen (not bathroom) I sometimes don't remember
to apply it as often as is beneficial-- Many people on the ozone lists
report that it will make skin tags and moles go away.  That's not been my
experience but it may be due to frequency of use.

It does need to stay refridgerated to retain the ozone.  Buying in winter is
better than summer because of that. IF ozone is present when the odor is
present, Saul's OOO retains ozone very well as evidenced by the tablespoon I
add to 2 tablespoons of coconut oil and keep in the bathroom for face and
elbows.

I recently came across a web page where they were selling ozonated coconut
oil and may try some of that.

One can ozonate oils oneself but to get the solid stuff that is stable when
kept cold, it takes many hours (days? more?) of ozonation. I'd rather it be
someone else's electric bill.

FWIW




On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Norton, Steve wrote:

>  Has anyone used ozonated oil? What was your experience? Was it
> beneficial? I may try some but would like to know if it really does provide
> oxygen.
> Thanks,
>  Steve N
>

Re: CS>Bulk Mushroom Powders

[Renee]

Hey Ode.  We have very few soft woods here--do hard woods work?  I read once
that if a person has a pond near by they can place the ends of the logs in
the water (most of the log is out) to suck up water and keep the spawn moist
and growing.  

I tried growing a bag of mushrooms once--a kit I bought.  Got a handful of
shrooms, hardly worth the cost of the kit.  But we are very hot and dry here
in south Texas, not a lot of humidity.  I wonder if there are shrooms that
will grow here?  

In the early spring after the rains start I see a few small wild non-edibles
that last for a day or so, and that's about it.  I miss the wild morrels we
use to pick back home.

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
 
   We've been growing Shitakes for several years now in NC...on Sweet Gum
logs, a tree that's more of a pest than anything else.
   Gum soaks up water like a sponge, rots fast and has lots of sugar in it.
 
...

CS>cancel my membership

[Jonathan Chamberlain]

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  Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 12:13 PM
  Subject: silver-digest Digest V2009 #752

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Re: CS>Bulk Mushroom Powders

[Annie B Smythe]

Thank you:)

I'll do that. I've never grown a mushroom in my 
life, but I'm willing to give it go. Info from 
someone that's done it already is a good thing;)


Annie

Ode Coyote wrote:



  We've been growing Shitakes for several years now in NC...on Sweet Gum 
logs, a tree that's more of a pest than anything else.

  Gum soaks up water like a sponge, rots fast and has lots of sugar in it.

..and the faster you cut em down, the faster they grow...can't kill 
em...and for a couple of days a year, it literally RAINS seeds.


You want fresh logs that don't already have a hundred different spores 
in them.
 Seal the ends with hot paraffin and stack them up off the ground for 
several months...then plug em and seal the plugs.

 Some peeps use bags of heat sterilized saw dust or chips.

The best way to dry a mushroom is to just put it in a frost free 
refrigerator for a few weeks.  Food dryers get too hot.


Ode


At 06:57 PM 11/29/2009 -0600, you wrote:
I dunno where everyone gets their medicinal mushroom powders, but I 
stumbled across this site that has either 4 oz or 1 lb sizes of just 
about every mushroom powder you can think of, and they sell plugs if 
you want to grow your own.


If you're interested here it is:

http://mushroompatch.com/herbal_powder.htm

Looks like 1lb of mushroom powder runs 30.00, the 4 oz is 11.00. But 
do you know hoe many 500 mg - 1 gram capsules that will make? Lots and 
lots.  It beats 15.00 a bottle for 60 or so capsules by a long shot.


This Spring when I start my container garden experiment, I'll order 
some plugs too. See if I can grow my own mushrooms. That will be even 
cheaper. I can go out to the woods and get two or three, old felled 
trees, trim the branches off, and see if I can grow mushrooms.


I don't know these people, never heard of them before, and just to be 
clear, I ain't pushing the site, and I'm not connected with 'em in any 
way. If anyone knows a cheaper place to get bulk mushroom powders, 
please let me know, I'll be ecstatic. Anyway I thought I'd share the 
web addy. There are several people who mentioned taking Agaricus 
Blazei, and that's one of the powders they have listed. If I can't 
find it cheaper elsewhere, I'm gonna get the 14 mushroom blend and the 
Blazei, 1 lb of each should last a while for my family. I'd have to 
buy 4 or 5 bottles of the capsules somewhere else, just for one month 
at my house, and that gets horrendously expensive real fast!


I'm gonna buy one of those 8 lb bags of Thorvin Kelp too. Goodbye to 
the those separate bottles of stuff that cost a fortune. Cheap, good, 
nutritional insurance at that price. 8lbs will last a good long time, 
even if we feed it to the guinea pigs and the dog too! I think it's a 
better value because it's just about everything in one source, and 
it's from a plant. The stuff should be easily absorbed and utilized.


Annie



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Re: CS>h202

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

but when I put the 3% into my CS it went a murky green!  This is why I bought 
the 35% but am now worried about its safety as I know you have to be really 
careful handling it.  dee


On 29 Nov 2009, at 22:10, Shirley Reed wrote:

>  W.C.Douglas mentions that knowledgeable people come down on different sides 
> of the fence regarding oral intake of h202.  So he comes down on neither side 
> and just reports both sides of the issue.  But he does say that if one 
> decides on the oral approach, the dose should not exceed 10 drops of the 3% 
> three times a day on an empty stomach.  To be on the safe side, be sure to 
> check this out as I may not recall the correct figures!!  I think they're 
> right but it is your neck so check it out!!   Also, somewhere someone said 
> that the Birdman of Alcatraz was only allowed to use the 3% solution on the 
> birds he saved, and there were apparently a lot of them.  That was the only 
> 'medication' he was allowed to access and it seems to have worked well.  All 
> the strengths of h202 use stabilizers and I was unable to understand the 
> relative toxicities of the various chemicals and their concentrations.   
> Douglas himself recommends the 3% as he feels it is sufficient and
> the extra h202 is not worth the extra money.pj
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: CS>Bulk Mushroom Powders

[Ode Coyote]

  We've been growing Shitakes for several years now in NC...on Sweet Gum 
logs, a tree that's more of a pest than anything else.

  Gum soaks up water like a sponge, rots fast and has lots of sugar in it.

..and the faster you cut em down, the faster they grow...can't kill 
em...and for a couple of days a year, it literally RAINS seeds.


You want fresh logs that don't already have a hundred different spores in them.
 Seal the ends with hot paraffin and stack them up off the ground for 
several months...then plug em and seal the plugs.

 Some peeps use bags of heat sterilized saw dust or chips.

The best way to dry a mushroom is to just put it in a frost free 
refrigerator for a few weeks.  Food dryers get too hot.


Ode


At 06:57 PM 11/29/2009 -0600, you wrote:
I dunno where everyone gets their medicinal mushroom powders, but I 
stumbled across this site that has either 4 oz or 1 lb sizes of just about 
every mushroom powder you can think of, and they sell plugs if you want to 
grow your own.


If you're interested here it is:

http://mushroompatch.com/herbal_powder.htm

Looks like 1lb of mushroom powder runs 30.00, the 4 oz is 11.00. But do 
you know hoe many 500 mg - 1 gram capsules that will make? Lots and 
lots.  It beats 15.00 a bottle for 60 or so capsules by a long shot.


This Spring when I start my container garden experiment, I'll order some 
plugs too. See if I can grow my own mushrooms. That will be even cheaper. 
I can go out to the woods and get two or three, old felled trees, trim the 
branches off, and see if I can grow mushrooms.


I don't know these people, never heard of them before, and just to be 
clear, I ain't pushing the site, and I'm not connected with 'em in any 
way. If anyone knows a cheaper place to get bulk mushroom powders, please 
let me know, I'll be ecstatic. Anyway I thought I'd share the web addy. 
There are several people who mentioned taking Agaricus Blazei, and that's 
one of the powders they have listed. If I can't find it cheaper elsewhere, 
I'm gonna get the 14 mushroom blend and the Blazei, 1 lb of each should 
last a while for my family. I'd have to buy 4 or 5 bottles of the capsules 
somewhere else, just for one month at my house, and that gets horrendously 
expensive real fast!


I'm gonna buy one of those 8 lb bags of Thorvin Kelp too. Goodbye to the 
those separate bottles of stuff that cost a fortune. Cheap, good, 
nutritional insurance at that price. 8lbs will last a good long time, even 
if we feed it to the guinea pigs and the dog too! I think it's a better 
value because it's just about everything in one source, and it's from a 
plant. The stuff should be easily absorbed and utilized.


Annie



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RE: CS>Arterial plaque - Comment

[Ode Coyote]

  Taking that into a more radical realm...sand blasting.
Much depends on how hard it is.
It's very difficult to remove rubber or soft paint and a hardened artery 
isn't exactly like  glass to be etched.


 But as with dental plaque, there may be a bacterial element acting as a 
sort of glue or substrate, an interface that causes it to stick and build 
up in the first place.
 CS/EIS removes dental plaque quite well, but it's not a physics thing of 
masses and velocities , more like getting the hangers around the water 
cooler in the hallway out of the way.


 Now for another supplement made from Teflon and Banana peels extracted 
from political gofiggers...called "Slippery Pipes"  or "Braino" [wink]


ode




At 09:46 AM 11/30/2009 +1030, you wrote:
As a layman I have pondered this question for several years, and seeing as 
you raised the notion I figured now would be a good time to seek some 
clarification.


EIS/CS contains both ionic and particulate silver does it not, but as the 
particulate content comprises clusters of ions which have aggregated they 
therefore would form a crystal or snowflake type structure.  Now, as these 
tiny 'structures?' are circulated through the blood would they not have 
some abrasive effect on the walls of veins, arteries etc over time?


Of course it could be said that if this is so, then eventually they may 
work their way through the wall as well, although I wouldn't agree with 
that I have no basis for disagreeing with it however.


I could be living in dreamland of course, but then not being a researcher 
I can get away with that, so I can't see why it wouldn't be feasable.


Praps someone may like to put me straight?

N.

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Subject: Re: CS>MS cure - Comment
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:22:42 -0600
From: stephen.nor...@ngc.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

I guess that I should add that the CS testamonial also got me thinking 
about why the treatment helped at all since silver does not affect 
arterial plaque at all to my knowledge. It may be that the H2O2 played a 
more significant role than just increasing the effectiveness of the CS by 
increasing oxygen to the brain. Thereby reducing the effect of the 
partially blocked artery. I see this as possibly an additional support of 
oxygen therapies such as H2O2 and ozone.

- Steve N


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From: Norton, Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sun Nov 29 12:00:37 2009
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure - Comment

I appreciated the post. My first thoughts were if serrpeptase or EDTA 
could clear the blood flow without surgery. But both supplements have been 
discussed recently and I felt a comment would be redundant. I did file the 
info for future reference.

- Steve N


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From: craehow...@juno.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sun Nov 29 07:11:40 2009
Subject: CS>MS cure - Comment

After reading the original post (the website indicated) I find it 
interesting that comments were not along that line.  Yes, it very sad that 
someone we knew who indicated that CS had made a significant difference in 
her condition lost her life; and we need to pass along her protocols that 
she shared with her story; but also when we become aware of a breakthrough 
(CS or not) that also needs to be discussed.
If it's blockage or a build at the base of the brain...   is the surgery 
indicated the only methodology for removal.  Also, does anyone have or 
know of someone who has knowledge of this procedure.   As we all know 
(with CS use) that there is skepticism and total disregard by most of the 
medical profession regarding this.

I would be interested in hearing more comments regarding the initial subject.
connie



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Re: CS>The humble onion, best protection against the flu?

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Brilliant!  dee

On 29 Nov 2009, at 20:27, Garnet wrote:

> 
> This is an interesting folk remedy and one that reminds me of the practice of
> baking an onion wrapped in foil so that the juices collect. The juices are 
> then
> used orally, a teaspoon or two at a time, as a treatment for severe lung 
> congestion.
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Re: CS>H202 - Snopes

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

And do you have any adverse/beneficial effects Scotty?  dee

On 29 Nov 2009, at 20:16, Scotty wrote:

> Dilute 3% H2O2 by at least 50% with water (I only use this externally and for 
> gargling). 35% Food Grade H2O2, 4-5 drops in an 8oz. glass of water. That's 
> how I do it!
>  
> Scotty
> Have a great day!
> 
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RE: CS>Arterial plaque - Comment

[Neville Munn]

Fair enough, but I'm still quietly harbouring the thought that although the 
ideal for some may be to have particles/particle clusters of .-1nm 
in size, or smaller , or desire a high proportion of that silver to be in 
ionic form, those larger particle clusters which are present may yet serve a 
purpose of which has possibly not yet been fully explored, and praps not 
appreciated more in the scheme of things EIS/CS related, ignoring the bug 
killing capabilities.

 

It's OK, I'll just continue to go off on another of my tangents for a while in 
an attempt to find some relevant information on the subject. 

 

Thanks Steve

 

N.
 


Subject: Re: CS>Arterial plaque - Comment
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 18:43:02 -0600
From: stephen.nor...@ngc.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com




The average adult has about 5 pints of blood or about 80 ounces. A 20 ppm EIS 
solution would be so diluted that I would not expect the silver particles to 
cause much abrasion with reasonable amounts of EIS. 
- Steve N



From: Neville Munn  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Nov 29 17:16:24 2009
Subject: RE: CS>Arterial plaque - Comment 

As a layman I have pondered this question for several years, and seeing as you 
raised the notion I figured now would be a good time to seek some clarification.
 
EIS/CS contains both ionic and particulate silver does it not, but as the 
particulate content comprises clusters of ions which have aggregated they 
therefore would form a crystal or snowflake type structure.  Now, as these tiny 
'structures?' are circulated through the blood would they not have some 
abrasive effect on the walls of veins, arteries etc over time?
 
Of course it could be said that if this is so, then eventually they may work 
their way through the wall as well, although I wouldn't agree with that I have 
no basis for disagreeing with it however.
 
I could be living in dreamland of course, but then not being a researcher I can 
get away with that, so I can't see why it wouldn't be feasable.
 
Praps someone may like to put me straight?
 
N.


Subject: Re: CS>MS cure - Comment
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:22:42 -0600
From: stephen.nor...@ngc.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com


I guess that I should add that the CS testamonial also got me thinking about 
why the treatment helped at all since silver does not affect arterial plaque at 
all to my knowledge. It may be that the H2O2 played a more significant role 
than just increasing the effectiveness of the CS by increasing oxygen to the 
brain. Thereby reducing the effect of the partially blocked artery. I see this 
as possibly an additional support of oxygen therapies such as H2O2 and ozone.
- Steve N



From: Norton, Steve  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Nov 29 12:00:37 2009
Subject: Re: CS>MS cure - Comment 


I appreciated the post. My first thoughts were if serrpeptase or EDTA could 
clear the blood flow without surgery. But both supplements have been discussed 
recently and I felt a comment would be redundant. I did file the info for 
future reference.
- Steve N



From: craehow...@juno.com  
To: silver-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Sun Nov 29 07:11:40 2009
Subject: CS>MS cure - Comment 

After reading the original post (the website indicated) I find it interesting 
that comments were not along that line.  Yes, it very sad that someone we knew 
who indicated that CS had made a significant difference in her condition lost 
her life; and we need to pass along her protocols that she shared with her 
story; but also when we become aware of a breakthrough (CS or not) that also 
needs to be discussed.
If it's blockage or a build at the base of the brain...   is the surgery 
indicated the only methodology for removal.  Also, does anyone have or know of 
someone who has knowledge of this procedure.   As we all know (with CS use) 
that there is skepticism and total disregard by most of the medical profession 
regarding this.  
I would be interested in hearing more comments regarding the initial subject.
connie


 
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Re: CS>Bulk Mushroom Powders

[Sandee George]

Totally agree with you -
Have a super day
Cheers
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Re: CS>Bulk Mushroom Powders

[Annie B Smythe]

You're welcome Sandee,

LOL, I'm a compulsive sharer. I don't see any 
reason to keep the good stuff to myself:)


Annie

Sandee George wrote:
Hi There Annie - thanks for this info. very interesting I will also 
investigate them and feed back any info I get as well, very good idea - 
thanks buckets

Regards
Sandee


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Re: CS>Bulk Mushroom Powders

[Sandee George]

Hi There Annie - thanks for this info. very interesting I will also  
investigate them and feed back any info I get as well, very good idea  
- thanks buckets

Regards
Sandee


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