CSHelp wanted with embedded stone in medullary sponge kidney
A friend of mine wrote this to me, but I don't know of a solution to her problem. Would anyone have suggestions which could help her to remove the embedded stone short of surgical intervention? I don't know of anything to melt an embedded stone. One problem is I have a defective kidney. It's called a Medullary Sponge Kidney. I just learned a few years ago I had it. It's a birth defect. It didn't start causing noticeable problems until just a few years ago. Thanks in advance Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091203-1, 03/12/2009 Tested on: 12/3/2009 8:25:48 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease
What would be the chances of a Tankersley that doesn't know a very interesting old guy in Florida named Larry? EIS Electrically Isolated Silver... a phrase coined here to distinguish home made and most commercially available CS from the rest by manufacturing methodmostly contains charged particles aka ions and some uncharged particles in ratios up to ~ 80% ionic in solution and ~20% colloidal in suspension...a colloid/solution mix...generally not over 20 -30 PPM Pure colloids: Most 400 PPM is MSP or Mild Silver Proteina commercially available powder mixed with watersomething to stay away from and said to be 1/50th as effective due to large particle size and the protein coating on them hiding most of what surface area the particles have. The protein coating disables the silver enough that microbes have been found growing ON the particles IN the bottle. A new one from the lab supply houses is Nano Silver Powder derived by chemical processes or electro-sputtering...pretty rare in the supplements field so far and not much known about it...could be made very strong...might be pretty good...but be careful and watch that total. Its intended purpose is for glazes, anti bacterial coatings and paint additives etc. Then there's Meso Silver which no one knows how to make it or what it really is, but Frank Key...a good guy with a big secret. Some swear by it, some at it. Certainly something to try if a home brew isn't working. A semi pure colloid [ 90+% ? ] Then the non colloids tossed into the colloid basket, the impure ionic solutions such as Silver Citrate, Silver Acetate, Silver Nitrate...can be made very strong. While Silver isn't toxic, playing no nutritional role and having no biological niche, nor is it a Heavy Metal and normally is eliminated from the body at a pretty fast rate... some is always retained in the tissues..so.. at very high consumption rates over a period of time, the retained silver can cross a threshold and turn you blue [Argyria] but even so, it's not a health issue as would be too much copper retention. Many metals in colloidal form will kill microbes, [copper, zinc, bismuth, mercury and several others ] but most play a biological role and levels high enough to be effective would be quite toxic. Silver is an exception. A worst, Argyria is a very rare occurrence even at extreme silver exposures, but something to bear in mind. At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too toxic to survive that long if your metals elimination system is anywhere close to normal. The toxic in very small amounts trace element [micronutrient] Selenium is key to the control of levels of both copper and silver. Selenium can be fairly rare in soils, so even foods that would normally contain it can be deficient. Logically, if you have any nerve problems and live were copper is overly common, it might be copper toxicity and it would pay to check into Selenium levels before indulging in the use of a lot of Silver. A study done at Brigham Young University showed that water can be sterilized by silver in concentrations as low as 3 parts per billion...just that 3 parts per million did it much faster. Silver will kill just about any microbe it encounters. The tricky part is getting it there for an encounter. Inhalation is the next best thing to an injection. Even inhaled silver DUST will make it though the blood stream and ~94% come out the other end within 28 days. Ode At 08:45 AM 12/2/2009 -0600, you wrote: I'm really new to this CS thing, and I was wondering what EIS stands for also IE and ppm. If anyone could educate me I'd appreciate it. I notice that in the Health Store, there is different PPM's for silver. some as high as 400 ppm, some low as 10ppm, etc. Is the bigger number stronger and better for you? Thanks, Kathy - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:58 PM Subject: Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease Richard Goodwin wrote: Has anyone ever discovered what might be a reasonable minimum amount and frequency of CS to ingest to maintain health free of colds, flu, etc., assuming you are not trying to get over some disease? I ingested about one ounce a day of 5 ppm EIS for about 7 years, with nary a cold or flu. However due to the bluing of my fingernail moons over the last couple of years, after switching to 15 to 20 ppm EIS, I have discontinued using EIS for prevention, and am taking 5,000 IE of D3 instead, with similar results, IE no sicknesses with me or my family. I still will swig some EIS if I get food poisoning, or feel something coming on (which has not happened yet after switching to the D3). Also for standbys if I ever do seem to be getting something are olive leaf extract, oreganol, Del Immune V, MMS, and Vitamin C. Marshall -- The Silver List is a
Re: CScirculation problems
Certainly no expert opinion, but you may be having minor clotting problems inhibiting the return cycle of blood from the skin surface and/or hormonal changes redistributing fat around capillaries, squeezing them down. An Aspirin a day oughta help. Ode At 08:16 AM 12/2/2009 -0800, you wrote: I,m asking the group of infinite wisdom if any one has had circulation problems if so do you have any ideas lately my feet have been very cold even in a heated room. Some of the capillaries around my eyes are are breaking and getting blue marks around my eyes .I have asked my Dr but no real answers in short visit Thanks Ted -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: EC Water meter (UNCLASSIFIED)
yes bob. dee On 2 Dec 2009, at 20:12, Medwith, Robert J Mr CIV USA AMC wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Is this getting to list. Bob Bought a 2052 meter for testing water and CS (came without probe). Buying a probe need to know which Calibration solution to buy. I would assume it is the one on the low end of scale. I would assume it would be the 74.7 74.7 micro-mho (µS) 718 micro-mho (µS) 1,409 micro-mho (µS) 6,660 micro-mho (µS) 58,700 micro-mho (µS) Thanks Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSH202 - Snopes
I think I have decided to just dilute this and use as surface cleaners, sol! It is all a bit scary for me and I wonder if there are actually any benefits, which doesn't seem to have been the case with you, I feel. dee On 3 Dec 2009, at 03:59, sol wrote: Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Snopes commented that it would be unwise to use H202 internally because it can cause bubbles in the blood. Although it probably means intravenous application I wonder if there are any contraindications to using it orally, as Snopes advises that there are. Any comments? dee I tried a protocol of oral H202, can't remember what amount it started with, but it was taken in water (a few drops) then you took more and more until a certain point, kept that up for a certain number of days, then ramped down again. Whatever, as I worked the amount of H202 up, it tasted worse and worse, and made me feel nauseous, finally I simply could not tolerate it and stopped. I still cannot even stand the taste of H202 at all anymore, not even a few drops in CS. When I try to use diluted H202 as a mouth rinse it will make me feel sick to my stomach, many years later. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: EC Water meter (UNCLASSIFIED)
I think that 74.7 would be best. Keep the solution and meter in the same place for a while before calibrating so they will be at the same temperature and don't hold the solution container in your hand while doing it. Ode At 03:12 PM 12/2/2009 -0500, you wrote: Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Is this getting to list. Bob Bought a 2052 meter for testing water and CS (came without probe). Buying a probe need to know which Calibration solution to buy. I would assume it is the one on the low end of scale. I would assume it would be the 74.7 74.7 micro-mho (µS) 718 micro-mho (µS) 1,409 micro-mho (µS) 6,660 micro-mho (µS) 58,700 micro-mho (µS) Thanks Bob Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSvolts, amps, other methods
Hi Dick, Can you mention what you have done with CS (and/or other things) to cure yourself and your wife of Lyme disease? This would be a big help to me! many thanks, Peter - Original Message - From: Richard Goodwin To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 30, 2009 3:33 PM Subject: CSvolts, amps, other methods Hello, I'm a new subscriber to this list, having arrived here by a very circuitous route over a few years of reading about colloidal silver and how to make it. And how not to make it. Marshall has been a lot of help recently in this respect. I'm sure this has already been discussed, but without being able to consult the archives, I'd like to ask this anyway: I'm looking, as is everyone else probably, for the best way to make colloidal silver. I'm assuming that colloidal content is preferable to ionic content. At least one website claims that it is not possible to make good colloidal silver at home, as the process is too complicated. If that is true, then something else has been keeping me and my wife cold- and flu- free for the past 3 years, and has cured both of us of lyme disease. :-) I suspect I have been making some mixture of colloidal and ionic. More to the point -- if I am going to use electricity, silver, and distilled water to make CS, what method will produce the highest colloidal content: what voltage, AC or DC, what current? And are there perhaps some other methods, like nanomaterialstore.com, who makes silver nanoparticles that you could perhaps then mix with distilled water, that might be even better? Certainly not cheaper, at $90/gram of their product. Cheers! Dick Goodwin
Re: CSMS cure
I sent this link to the BoneSmart forum and a couple of people there have sent it on to friends. I didn't know that there is a lot of MS in New Zealand. They also have problems with low vitamin D levels there, especially in the south island. From: Ross Craig lag...@eastlink.ca Read all about this stunning news: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/researchers-labour-of-love-leads-to-ms-breakthrough/article1372414/
Re: CSMS cure
When I was in New Zealand in the 70s I couldn't believe the number of people I saw with really bad complexions. Figured it was lack of sun maybe, or lack of vitamins. From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 7:45:04 AM Subject: Re: CSMS cure I sent this link to the BoneSmart forum and a couple of people there have sent it on to friends. I didn't know that there is a lot of MS in New Zealand. They also have problems with low vitamin D levels there, especially in the south island. From: Ross Craig lag...@eastlink.ca Read all about this stunning news: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/researchers-labour-of-love-leads-to-ms-breakthrough/article1372414/
CSspreading the word
One funny thing I have noticed is how difficult it is to convince anybody who doesn't already know about CS how amazing it is. Both of my groan, er, I mean, grown kids have worked at the New England Journal of Medicine, and they are True Believers in the AMA, FDA, and all things traditional western medicine. And they steadfastly refuse to believe in anything else. These are 30-somethings. At the moment. They totally scoff at the idea of CS, as if we are talking about voodoo or witchdoctors or something. Same reaction with people at work. So now I just don't bother much. I hear them coughing and sniffing, taking off sick, talking about the flu, getting their flu shots, getting colds, etc., and think how nice it is not to have to deal with any of that any more. But even when they are sick, they don't want to hear about CS. Of course it doesn't help that the powers that are against it have websites that they pay to keep at the front of google searches, that put down CS and try to scare people away from it. A friend of mine did a google search on it, and the first 3 or 4 items were quackwatch, some site from a university, the standard blue man and gray people pictures, etc. It's no wonder people get turned off to it. I looked into quackwatch, and found references to the guy who owns it having received awards from the FDA. No surprises there. The university sites were AMA connected. You have to pay to get your website up front on google like that, and I'll bet I know exactly who is paying in this case. Anyhow, interesting phenomenon, the resistance to learning about something new like this, or maybe it is just resistance to learning about anything that doesn't come from one's own doctor? Dick
Re: CSspreading the word
I do s agree Dick! Even my friends who have had good results when I more or less forced it on them to try, still will not do it properly. The *won't* take enough, and of course if it doesn't work straightaway because they *haven't* taken enough; they then rush off to the docs for ABX's! Ok for if the dog is off its food, and one will now take it as a preventative i.e her husband had the 'flu jab and promptly got a stonking case of the 'flu. She was so scared of getting it that she *did* take CS properly. But then, her husband said well, she may not have got it anyway! What can you do? I had a huge row with her husband about it. He has had the 'flu jab three years on the go, and twice came down with a nasty virus, and this third time, full blown 'flu! He will still go and have the jab next year though. Plus he had all the ABX's even though they are no good whatsoever for viruses, plus he had the Tamiflu as well! I've decided I'm not bothering any more with people that won't be helped. I wouldn't mind, but *he* told *me* that I should have an open mind! Unbelievable! dee On 3 Dec 2009, at 13:29, Richard Goodwin wrote: One funny thing I have noticed is how difficult it is to convince anybody who doesn't already know about CS how amazing it is. Both of my groan, er, I mean, grown kids have worked at the New England Journal of Medicine, and they are True Believers in the AMA, FDA, and all things traditional western medicine. And they steadfastly refuse to believe in anything else. These are 30-somethings. At the moment. They totally scoff at the idea of CS, as if we are talking about voodoo or witchdoctors or something. Same reaction with people at work. So now I just don't bother much. I hear them coughing and sniffing, taking off sick, talking about the flu, getting their flu shots, getting colds, etc., and think how nice it is not to have to deal with any of that any more. But even when they are sick, they don't want to hear about CS. Of course it doesn't help that the powers that are against it have websites that they pay to keep at the front of google searches, that put down CS and try to scare people away from it. A friend of mine did a google search on it, and the first 3 or 4 items were quackwatch, some site from a university, the standard blue man and gray people pictures, etc. It's no wonder people get turned off to it. I looked into quackwatch, and found references to the guy who owns it having received awards from the FDA. No surprises there. The university sites were AMA connected. You have to pay to get your website up front on google like that, and I'll bet I know exactly who is paying in this case. Anyhow, interesting phenomenon, the resistance to learning about something new like this, or maybe it is just resistance to learning about anything that doesn't come from one's own doctor? Dick
Re: CSspreading the word
Hahahahahahaha! That is TOO FUNNY!!! He told You that You should have an open mind?!?! Awesome. Yes, that is exactly the same attitude that my kids and others have. If it doesn't have a peer-reviewed article in NEJM, then it doesn't exist. I think we are brought up to look at medicine as a sort of religion, and the doctors as high priests, where we have to take everything on faith, don't dare question anything, and have to do whatever they tell us. Fortunately, the older I get, the more my BS alarm goes off, and the less I pay attention to anything other than reality. My definition of reality: Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, does not go away. I love it. As for CS, both my wife and I were starting to give up on convincing our friends to use it, but then just yesterday my wife called in tears to tell me that the mid-thirties son of good friends of hers just died from H1N1. We both decided that we don't care if people think we're kooks or PITAs, we are going to keep pushing CS. We have made a few converts. But it is an uphill battle all the way. Cheers! Dick From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 8:38:06 AM Subject: Re: CSspreading the word I do s agree Dick! Even my friends who have had good results when I more or less forced it on them to try, still will not do it properly. The *won't* take enough, and of course if it doesn't work straightaway because they *haven't* taken enough; they then rush off to the docs for ABX's! Ok for if the dog is off its food, and one will now take it as a preventative i.e her husband had the 'flu jab and promptly got a stonking case of the 'flu. She was so scared of getting it that she *did* take CS properly. But then, her husband said well, she may not have got it anyway! What can you do? I had a huge row with her husband about it. He has had the 'flu jab three years on the go, and twice came down with a nasty virus, and this third time, full blown 'flu! He will still go and have the jab next year though. Plus he had all the ABX's even though they are no good whatsoever for viruses, plus he had the Tamiflu as well! I've decided I'm not bothering any more with people that won't be helped. I wouldn't mind, but *he* told *me* that I should have an open mind! Unbelievable! dee On 3 Dec 2009, at 13:29, Richard Goodwin wrote: One funny thing I have noticed is how difficult it is to convince anybody who doesn't already know about CS how amazing it is. Both of my groan, er, I mean, grown kids have worked at the New England Journal of Medicine, and they are True Believers in the AMA, FDA, and all things traditional western medicine. And they steadfastly refuse to believe in anything else. These are 30-somethings. At the moment. They totally scoff at the idea of CS, as if we are talking about voodoo or witchdoctors or something. Same reaction with people at work. So now I just don't bother much. I hear them coughing and sniffing, taking off sick, talking about the flu, getting their flu shots, getting colds, etc., and think how nice it is not to have to deal with any of that any more. But even when they are sick, they don't want to hear about CS. Of course it doesn't help that the powers that are against it have websites that they pay to keep at the front of google searches, that put down CS and try to scare people away from it. A friend of mine did a google search on it, and the first 3 or 4 items were quackwatch, some site from a university, the standard blue man and gray people pictures, etc. It's no wonder people get turned off to it. I looked into quackwatch, and found references to the guy who owns it having received awards from the FDA. No surprises there. The university sites were AMA connected. You have to pay to get your website up front on google like that, and I'll bet I know exactly who is paying in this case. Anyhow, interesting phenomenon, the resistance to learning about something new like this, or maybe it is just resistance to learning about anything that doesn't come from one's own doctor? Dick
RE: CSH202 - Snopes
Snopes is wrong again. Thanks, Jim -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:18 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSH202 - Snopes I think I have decided to just dilute this and use as surface cleaners, sol! It is all a bit scary for me and I wonder if there are actually any benefits, which doesn't seem to have been the case with you, I feel. dee On 3 Dec 2009, at 03:59, sol wrote: Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Snopes commented that it would be unwise to use H202 internally because it can cause bubbles in the blood. Although it probably means intravenous application I wonder if there are any contraindications to using it orally, as Snopes advises that there are. Any comments? dee I tried a protocol of oral H202, can't remember what amount it started with, but it was taken in water (a few drops) then you took more and more until a certain point, kept that up for a certain number of days, then ramped down again. Whatever, as I worked the amount of H202 up, it tasted worse and worse, and made me feel nauseous, finally I simply could not tolerate it and stopped. I still cannot even stand the taste of H202 at all anymore, not even a few drops in CS. When I try to use diluted H202 as a mouth rinse it will make me feel sick to my stomach, many years later. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease
A new one from the lab supply houses is Nano Silver Powder derived by chemical processes or electro-sputtering...pretty rare in the supplements field so far and not much known about it...could be made very strong...might be pretty good...but be careful and watch that total. Its intended purpose is for glazes, anti bacterial coatings and paint additives etc. I found one of these places: http://www.nanomaterialstore.com/nano-silver.php Wrote and asked them how much water it would take to create a colloid of silver using 1 gram of their silver. The answer: From: hw...@sun-innovations.com 1.6wt% is 1.6 per hundred. Say, diluting 1mL 1.6wt% solution to 20ppm (20E-6) means you need 1.6%*1mL/(20E-6)=800mL water. BTW, we don't have 1.6wt% powder, it is water solution in which Ag is 1.6wt% compare to water. Regards, Haorong So one $90 gram of their silver will make 800 mL of CS. This might be very high quality CS, albeit with no ionic content, which is not exactly what we want, but the price is pretty prohibitive, IMO. Dick
Re: CSHelp wanted with embedded stone in medullary sponge kidney
Can't give any specifics, but depending on the type of stone, there should be various herbs to take, both western and from Chinese medicine to dissolve kidney stones. Also have heard that changing the pH of the urine can cause stones to dissolve. A more basic pH (less acid) can cause some stones to dissolve, and/or prevent their occurrence. You would have to monitore the body pH to prevent it from becoming too basic, because this can cause problems too... Dan On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:55 AM, Hanneke bloss...@internode.on.net wrote: A friend of mine wrote this to me, but I don't know of a solution to her problem. Would anyone have suggestions which could help her to remove the embedded stone short of surgical intervention? I don't know of anything to melt an embedded stone. One problem is I have a defective kidney. It's called a Medullary Sponge Kidney. I just learned a few years ago I had it. It's a birth defect. It didn't start causing noticeable problems until just a few years ago. Thanks in advance Hanneke -- avast! Antivirus http://www.avast.com/: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 091203-1, 03/12/2009 Tested on: 12/3/2009 8:25:48 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software.
Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease
Ode, you wrote: At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too toxic to survive that long if your metals elimination system is anywhere close to normal. What did you mean by this? Dan On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: What would be the chances of a Tankersley that doesn't know a very interesting old guy in Florida named Larry? EIS Electrically Isolated Silver... a phrase coined here to distinguish home made and most commercially available CS from the rest by manufacturing methodmostly contains charged particles aka ions and some uncharged particles in ratios up to ~ 80% ionic in solution and ~20% colloidal in suspension...a colloid/solution mix...generally not over 20 -30 PPM Pure colloids: Most 400 PPM is MSP or Mild Silver Proteina commercially available powder mixed with watersomething to stay away from and said to be 1/50th as effective due to large particle size and the protein coating on them hiding most of what surface area the particles have. The protein coating disables the silver enough that microbes have been found growing ON the particles IN the bottle. A new one from the lab supply houses is Nano Silver Powder derived by chemical processes or electro-sputtering...pretty rare in the supplements field so far and not much known about it...could be made very strong...might be pretty good...but be careful and watch that total. Its intended purpose is for glazes, anti bacterial coatings and paint additives etc. Then there's Meso Silver which no one knows how to make it or what it really is, but Frank Key...a good guy with a big secret. Some swear by it, some at it. Certainly something to try if a home brew isn't working. A semi pure colloid [ 90+% ? ] Then the non colloids tossed into the colloid basket, the impure ionic solutions such as Silver Citrate, Silver Acetate, Silver Nitrate...can be made very strong. While Silver isn't toxic, playing no nutritional role and having no biological niche, nor is it a Heavy Metal and normally is eliminated from the body at a pretty fast rate... some is always retained in the tissues..so.. at very high consumption rates over a period of time, the retained silver can cross a threshold and turn you blue [Argyria] but even so, it's not a health issue as would be too much copper retention. Many metals in colloidal form will kill microbes, [copper, zinc, bismuth, mercury and several others ] but most play a biological role and levels high enough to be effective would be quite toxic. Silver is an exception. A worst, Argyria is a very rare occurrence even at extreme silver exposures, but something to bear in mind. At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too toxic to survive that long if your metals elimination system is anywhere close to normal. The toxic in very small amounts trace element [micronutrient] Selenium is key to the control of levels of both copper and silver. Selenium can be fairly rare in soils, so even foods that would normally contain it can be deficient. Logically, if you have any nerve problems and live were copper is overly common, it might be copper toxicity and it would pay to check into Selenium levels before indulging in the use of a lot of Silver. A study done at Brigham Young University showed that water can be sterilized by silver in concentrations as low as 3 parts per billion...just that 3 parts per million did it much faster. Silver will kill just about any microbe it encounters. The tricky part is getting it there for an encounter. Inhalation is the next best thing to an injection. Even inhaled silver DUST will make it though the blood stream and ~94% come out the other end within 28 days. Ode At 08:45 AM 12/2/2009 -0600, you wrote: I'm really new to this CS thing, and I was wondering what EIS stands for also IE and ppm. If anyone could educate me I'd appreciate it. I notice that in the Health Store, there is different PPM's for silver. some as high as 400 ppm, some low as 10ppm, etc. Is the bigger number stronger and better for you? Thanks, Kathy - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:58 PM Subject: Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease Richard Goodwin wrote: Has anyone ever discovered what might be a reasonable minimum amount and frequency of CS to ingest to maintain health free of colds, flu, etc., assuming you are not trying to get over some disease? I ingested about one ounce a day of 5 ppm EIS for about 7 years, with nary a cold or flu. However due to the bluing of my fingernail moons over the last couple of years, after switching to 15 to 20 ppm EIS, I have discontinued using EIS for prevention, and am taking 5,000 IE of D3 instead, with similar results, IE no sicknesses with me or my family. I still
Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease
We don't know a Tankersley in Florida, our kin is in Missouri, Lake area, howeveer, if a person was to do a search, you can bet we came from the same brood somewhere along the line. Have a good day! Kathy - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:49 AM Subject: Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease What would be the chances of a Tankersley that doesn't know a very interesting old guy in Florida named Larry? EIS Electrically Isolated Silver... a phrase coined here to distinguish home made and most commercially available CS from the rest by manufacturing methodmostly contains charged particles aka ions and some uncharged particles in ratios up to ~ 80% ionic in solution and ~20% colloidal in suspension...a colloid/solution mix...generally not over 20 -30 PPM Pure colloids: Most 400 PPM is MSP or Mild Silver Proteina commercially available powder mixed with watersomething to stay away from and said to be 1/50th as effective due to large particle size and the protein coating on them hiding most of what surface area the particles have. The protein coating disables the silver enough that microbes have been found growing ON the particles IN the bottle. A new one from the lab supply houses is Nano Silver Powder derived by chemical processes or electro-sputtering...pretty rare in the supplements field so far and not much known about it...could be made very strong...might be pretty good...but be careful and watch that total. Its intended purpose is for glazes, anti bacterial coatings and paint additives etc. Then there's Meso Silver which no one knows how to make it or what it really is, but Frank Key...a good guy with a big secret. Some swear by it, some at it. Certainly something to try if a home brew isn't working. A semi pure colloid [ 90+% ? ] Then the non colloids tossed into the colloid basket, the impure ionic solutions such as Silver Citrate, Silver Acetate, Silver Nitrate...can be made very strong. While Silver isn't toxic, playing no nutritional role and having no biological niche, nor is it a Heavy Metal and normally is eliminated from the body at a pretty fast rate... some is always retained in the tissues..so.. at very high consumption rates over a period of time, the retained silver can cross a threshold and turn you blue [Argyria] but even so, it's not a health issue as would be too much copper retention. Many metals in colloidal form will kill microbes, [copper, zinc, bismuth, mercury and several others ] but most play a biological role and levels high enough to be effective would be quite toxic. Silver is an exception. A worst, Argyria is a very rare occurrence even at extreme silver exposures, but something to bear in mind. At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too toxic to survive that long if your metals elimination system is anywhere close to normal. The toxic in very small amounts trace element [micronutrient] Selenium is key to the control of levels of both copper and silver. Selenium can be fairly rare in soils, so even foods that would normally contain it can be deficient. Logically, if you have any nerve problems and live were copper is overly common, it might be copper toxicity and it would pay to check into Selenium levels before indulging in the use of a lot of Silver. A study done at Brigham Young University showed that water can be sterilized by silver in concentrations as low as 3 parts per billion...just that 3 parts per million did it much faster. Silver will kill just about any microbe it encounters. The tricky part is getting it there for an encounter. Inhalation is the next best thing to an injection. Even inhaled silver DUST will make it though the blood stream and ~94% come out the other end within 28 days. Ode At 08:45 AM 12/2/2009 -0600, you wrote: I'm really new to this CS thing, and I was wondering what EIS stands for also IE and ppm. If anyone could educate me I'd appreciate it. I notice that in the Health Store, there is different PPM's for silver. some as high as 400 ppm, some low as 10ppm, etc. Is the bigger number stronger and better for you? Thanks, Kathy - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:58 PM Subject: Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease Richard Goodwin wrote: Has anyone ever discovered what might be a reasonable minimum amount and frequency of CS to ingest to maintain health free of colds, flu, etc., assuming you are not trying to get over some disease? I ingested about one ounce a day of 5 ppm EIS for about 7 years, with nary a cold or flu. However due to the bluing of my fingernail moons over the last couple of years, after switching to 15 to 20 ppm EIS, I have discontinued using EIS for prevention, and
Re: CScirculation problems
Hi Brickey. Could you please elaborate on this? What is a CB ~4000 zapper, and what is the thyroid program? Alan On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 9:44 PM, brick...@aol.com wrote: I also have cold feet. DR Becker just said that it could be caused by low thyroid. Check your arm pit temperature before getting out of bed in the morning. If it is 0.5 to 1 degree lower than 98.6 it could indicate low thyroid. I started 2 days ago using my GB -4000 zapper with the thyroid programs. Seems like my feet are not as cold. Brickey -- Alan Jones
Re: CSHelp wanted with embedded stone in medullary sponge kidney
Nenah or V, do you know of coloured light helping this sort of thing? Some years ago I read of a Spanish product where a vial of liquid is placed unopened in a glass of water and the next day (I think it was) the water is drunk, having been altered by the liquid in the vial. I can't at the moment recall its name, though I am sure I would have kept the information in a Word document. It was used for kidney stones and a variety of other problems. I'll keep looking, but in the meantime if anyone remembers the product, they may pipe up - Nenah, it was on the Rife group, wonder if you would remember that? The other thing is that frequency therapy such as that on www.heal-me.com.au Frex could be useful. Rowena Here are some notes I kept, though your description sounds like something unusual - what do they say the stone is composed of? Kidney Stones I had a CT scan not too long ago and they found that I have a 5 mm kidney stone in my left kidney. I have never had one before and don't know what to expect. One doctor says it's big and another doctor said it isn't big at all. ??? Which one do I believe and why won't they do anything about it? Is it something I should worry about? Thank you, -Sandy - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I have read that hydrangea taken in large doses (6 capsules, 3 times daily) can help to dissolve calcium deposits in the body...bone spurs, stones, etc. I also know that drinking soda pop can cause stones. The acidity of the pop leaches calcium from bones to the blood stream to balance the pH of the pop. That excess calcium can then deposit in the kidneys causing stones. So, if you are a pop drinker, I would stop that immediately (diet pop included), but I would check on the dosages of the hydrangea with someone else here on the forum. -Andrew - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Andrew is correct. I have personally worked with quite a few kidney stone cases. They're really easy to get rid of. . . . Kidney Stones Recipe Sure fired remedy: 6 JP-X 4 times daily 4 Hydrangea 6 times daily 2 Marshmallow 6 times daily Drink lots of pure water with fresh lemon squeezed in it. You start getting some relief right away, takes about a week for the kidney soreness to go away. Be prepared for your doctor to either tell you it disappeared spontaneously or is hiding. . . . But, I assure you -- it will be GONE!!! If you are not having pain yet -- be glad. Get rid of it before you do feel it. Prevention is often to drink 1/2 gal - 1 gal water throughout the day and cutting out coffee and soft drinks, especially cola's. Many people need more Magnesium Complex daily and also B-Complex and B-6. -Georgiana - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Hi, Hydrangea-Hydrangea-Hydrangea My husband has ended up in the ER twice with intense pain from Kidney stones. By the time they got done with all of the test, it had moved so I took him home and put him on hydrangea and he never had a problem for a couple of years. The next time, he was told that he would have to have surgery because it was too far down and the doctor said the hydrangea wouldn't dissolve it but early Christmas morning out it came. I had put him on hydrangea anyway. Needless to say, several men at his work have been steady customers for me for hydrangea. -Maxine - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Q: I have a patient who has an 8 mm kidney stone in the right kidney which is too large to pass down the ureter. She has occasional blood in the urine. The stone was found by x-ray and IVP testing. The urologist wants to do lithotripsy (sound wave treatment). He says she may have to have a stint placed to pass the stone fragments after lithotripsy. I have her on the kidney stone formula listed in FAQ (hydrangea, marshmallow, JP-X). Has anyone used this formula or something else like it and DOES IT WORK? How long does it take to work? Does it dissolve the stone or break it apart into smaller fragments? Will she experience any symptoms? Does anyone know if there are long term side effects to lithotripsy and/or stent placement? Thank you very much for your help. -Valerie Richey - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Yes I have had customers use this program, one man took the herbs with 1/4 lemon juice every two hours and rubbed Juniper Oil in a carrier oil over his kidney area on back and on his feet. He passed a small smooth stone in less than 24 hours. He passed smaller sand size that the Hydrangea broke off too. He was in some pain but he said is was less painful than it was 20 years when he did not have the herbs. -Jan Sims - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Q: Is Hydrangea best for dissolving kidney stones. How much is safe to take? -Martha Guillory - - - - - - - - - - - - - - I just sent this to a friend of mine. Several programs you can do to pass the stones. Hydrangea 12 capsules daily - they will work on dissolving the stones. Marshmallow 4 every hour coats the stones. Drinks lots of fresh squeezed lemon in water. Another recipe
Re: CSHelp wanted with embedded stone in medullary sponge kidney
On 3 Dec 2009 at 20:25, Hanneke wrote about : Subject : CSHelp wanted with embedded stone A friend of mine wrote this to me, but I don't know of a solution to her problem. Would anyone have suggestions which could help her to remove the embedded stone short of surgical intervention? I don't know of anything to melt an embedded stone. One problem is I have a defective kidney. It's called a Medullary Sponge Kidney. I just learned a few years ago I had it. It's a birth defect. It didn't start causing noticeable problems until just a few years ago. Thanks in advance Hanneke Hi Hanneke, Slackstone has a good rep for this . OK Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease
Thank you for all the info! I'm not sure yet what it all means, but its a start, thanks again, Kathy - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 4:49 AM Subject: Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease What would be the chances of a Tankersley that doesn't know a very interesting old guy in Florida named Larry? EIS Electrically Isolated Silver... a phrase coined here to distinguish home made and most commercially available CS from the rest by manufacturing methodmostly contains charged particles aka ions and some uncharged particles in ratios up to ~ 80% ionic in solution and ~20% colloidal in suspension...a colloid/solution mix...generally not over 20 -30 PPM Pure colloids: Most 400 PPM is MSP or Mild Silver Proteina commercially available powder mixed with watersomething to stay away from and said to be 1/50th as effective due to large particle size and the protein coating on them hiding most of what surface area the particles have. The protein coating disables the silver enough that microbes have been found growing ON the particles IN the bottle. A new one from the lab supply houses is Nano Silver Powder derived by chemical processes or electro-sputtering...pretty rare in the supplements field so far and not much known about it...could be made very strong...might be pretty good...but be careful and watch that total. Its intended purpose is for glazes, anti bacterial coatings and paint additives etc. Then there's Meso Silver which no one knows how to make it or what it really is, but Frank Key...a good guy with a big secret. Some swear by it, some at it. Certainly something to try if a home brew isn't working. A semi pure colloid [ 90+% ? ] Then the non colloids tossed into the colloid basket, the impure ionic solutions such as Silver Citrate, Silver Acetate, Silver Nitrate...can be made very strong. While Silver isn't toxic, playing no nutritional role and having no biological niche, nor is it a Heavy Metal and normally is eliminated from the body at a pretty fast rate... some is always retained in the tissues..so.. at very high consumption rates over a period of time, the retained silver can cross a threshold and turn you blue [Argyria] but even so, it's not a health issue as would be too much copper retention. Many metals in colloidal form will kill microbes, [copper, zinc, bismuth, mercury and several others ] but most play a biological role and levels high enough to be effective would be quite toxic. Silver is an exception. A worst, Argyria is a very rare occurrence even at extreme silver exposures, but something to bear in mind. At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too toxic to survive that long if your metals elimination system is anywhere close to normal. The toxic in very small amounts trace element [micronutrient] Selenium is key to the control of levels of both copper and silver. Selenium can be fairly rare in soils, so even foods that would normally contain it can be deficient. Logically, if you have any nerve problems and live were copper is overly common, it might be copper toxicity and it would pay to check into Selenium levels before indulging in the use of a lot of Silver. A study done at Brigham Young University showed that water can be sterilized by silver in concentrations as low as 3 parts per billion...just that 3 parts per million did it much faster. Silver will kill just about any microbe it encounters. The tricky part is getting it there for an encounter. Inhalation is the next best thing to an injection. Even inhaled silver DUST will make it though the blood stream and ~94% come out the other end within 28 days. Ode At 08:45 AM 12/2/2009 -0600, you wrote: I'm really new to this CS thing, and I was wondering what EIS stands for also IE and ppm. If anyone could educate me I'd appreciate it. I notice that in the Health Store, there is different PPM's for silver. some as high as 400 ppm, some low as 10ppm, etc. Is the bigger number stronger and better for you? Thanks, Kathy - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:58 PM Subject: Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease Richard Goodwin wrote: Has anyone ever discovered what might be a reasonable minimum amount and frequency of CS to ingest to maintain health free of colds, flu, etc., assuming you are not trying to get over some disease? I ingested about one ounce a day of 5 ppm EIS for about 7 years, with nary a cold or flu. However due to the bluing of my fingernail moons over the last couple of years, after switching to 15 to 20 ppm EIS, I have discontinued using EIS for prevention, and am taking 5,000 IE of D3 instead, with similar results, IE no sicknesses with me or my family. I
Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease
Brilliant post Ode, I am keeping in case anyone asks if silver is safe again! dee On 3 Dec 2009, at 10:49, Ode Coyote wrote: What would be the chances of a Tankersley that doesn't know a very interesting old guy in Florida named Larry? EIS Electrically Isolated Silver... a phrase coined here to distinguish home made and most commercially available CS from the rest by manufacturing methodmostly contains charged particles aka ions and some uncharged particles in ratios up to ~ 80% ionic in solution and ~20% colloidal in suspension...a colloid/solution mix...generally not over 20 -30 PPM Pure colloids: Most 400 PPM is MSP or Mild Silver Proteina commercially available powder mixed with watersomething to stay away from and said to be 1/50th as effective due to large particle size and the protein coating on them hiding most of what surface area the particles have. The protein coating disables the silver enough that microbes have been found growing ON the particles IN the bottle. A new one from the lab supply houses is Nano Silver Powder derived by chemical processes or electro-sputtering...pretty rare in the supplements field so far and not much known about it...could be made very strong...might be pretty good...but be careful and watch that total. Its intended purpose is for glazes, anti bacterial coatings and paint additives etc. Then there's Meso Silver which no one knows how to make it or what it really is, but Frank Key...a good guy with a big secret. Some swear by it, some at it. Certainly something to try if a home brew isn't working. A semi pure colloid [ 90+% ? ] Then the non colloids tossed into the colloid basket, the impure ionic solutions such as Silver Citrate, Silver Acetate, Silver Nitrate...can be made very strong. While Silver isn't toxic, playing no nutritional role and having no biological niche, nor is it a Heavy Metal and normally is eliminated from the body at a pretty fast rate... some is always retained in the tissues..so.. at very high consumption rates over a period of time, the retained silver can cross a threshold and turn you blue [Argyria] but even so, it's not a health issue as would be too much copper retention. Many metals in colloidal form will kill microbes, [copper, zinc, bismuth, mercury and several others ] but most play a biological role and levels high enough to be effective would be quite toxic. Silver is an exception. A worst, Argyria is a very rare occurrence even at extreme silver exposures, but something to bear in mind. At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too toxic to survive that long if your metals elimination system is anywhere close to normal. The toxic in very small amounts trace element [micronutrient] Selenium is key to the control of levels of both copper and silver. Selenium can be fairly rare in soils, so even foods that would normally contain it can be deficient. Logically, if you have any nerve problems and live were copper is overly common, it might be copper toxicity and it would pay to check into Selenium levels before indulging in the use of a lot of Silver. A study done at Brigham Young University showed that water can be sterilized by silver in concentrations as low as 3 parts per billion...just that 3 parts per million did it much faster. Silver will kill just about any microbe it encounters. The tricky part is getting it there for an encounter. Inhalation is the next best thing to an injection. Even inhaled silver DUST will make it though the blood stream and ~94% come out the other end within 28 days. Ode At 08:45 AM 12/2/2009 -0600, you wrote: I -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease
Even inhaled silver DUST will make it though the blood stream and ~94% come ut the other end within 28 days. What do you mean my..dustany danger in inhaling 5 ppm ionic silver -Original Message- From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Dec 3, 2009 12:12 pm Subject: Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease Brilliant post Ode, I am keeping in case anyone asks if silver is safe again! ee On 3 Dec 2009, at 10:49, Ode Coyote wrote: What would be the chances of a Tankersley that doesn't know a very nteresting old guy in Florida named Larry? EIS Electrically Isolated Silver... a phrase coined here to distinguish home ade and most commercially available CS from the rest by manufacturing ethodmostly contains charged particles aka ions and some uncharged articles in ratios up to ~ 80% ionic in solution and ~20% colloidal in uspension...a colloid/solution mix...generally not over 20 -30 PPM Pure colloids: Most 400 PPM is MSP or Mild Silver Proteina commercially available powder ixed with watersomething to stay away from and said to be 1/50th as ffective due to large particle size and the protein coating on them hiding most f what surface area the particles have. The protein coating disables the ilver enough that microbes have been found growing ON the particles IN the ottle. A new one from the lab supply houses is Nano Silver Powder derived by chemical rocesses or electro-sputtering...pretty rare in the supplements field so far nd not much known about it...could be made very strong...might be pretty ood...but be careful and watch that total. Its intended purpose is for glazes, anti bacterial coatings and paint dditives etc. Then there's Meso Silver which no one knows how to make it or what it really s, but Frank Key...a good guy with a big secret. Some swear by it, some at it. ertainly something to try if a home brew isn't working. A semi pure colloid [ 90+% ? ] Then the non colloids tossed into the colloid basket, the impure ionic olutions such as Silver Citrate, Silver Acetate, Silver Nitrate...can be made ery strong. While Silver isn't toxic, playing no nutritional role and having no biological iche, nor is it a Heavy Metal and normally is eliminated from the body at a retty fast rate... some is always retained in the tissues..so.. at very high onsumption rates over a period of time, the retained silver can cross a hreshold and turn you blue [Argyria] but even so, it's not a health issue as ould be too much copper retention. Many metals in colloidal form will kill microbes, [copper, zinc, bismuth, ercury and several others ] but most play a biological role and levels high nough to be effective would be quite toxic. Silver is an exception. A worst, Argyria is a very rare occurrence even at extreme silver exposures, ut something to bear in mind. At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too toxic to urvive that long if your metals elimination system is anywhere close to normal. The toxic in very small amounts trace element [micronutrient] Selenium is key o the control of levels of both copper and silver. Selenium can be fairly rare n soils, so even foods that would normally contain it can be deficient. Logically, if you have any nerve problems and live were copper is overly ommon, it might be copper toxicity and it would pay to check into Selenium evels before indulging in the use of a lot of Silver. A study done at Brigham Young University showed that water can be sterilized y silver in concentrations as low as 3 parts per billion...just that 3 parts er million did it much faster. Silver will kill just about any microbe it encounters. The tricky part is etting it there for an encounter. Inhalation is the next best thing to an injection. Even inhaled silver DUST will make it though the blood stream and ~94% come ut the other end within 28 days. Ode At 08:45 AM 12/2/2009 -0600, you wrote: I - he Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSuse of high ppm CS ....question for Marshall Dudley
dj...@home.nl wrote: Marshall Dudley hello, Johhny Silverseed form www.elixsilver.com uses vit C to make medicinal CS. Do you know if the vitamin C (ascorbic acid) also works like the citric acid? If you brew the EIS with ascorbic acid, the result should be silver ascorbate. Second question; Johnny Siverseed also uses a kinda phoneline to make CS , what do you think about that? I have heard of using the phone line for the voltage to make CS. I think it is illegal to do so under FCC regulations. Marshall I think that how cleaner the energysource is to make the CS the better. Maybe solarpanels are the best natural source? Trudy. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSspreading the word
Way back in the infancy of medicine it was discovered that washing hands would prevent infection for surgical patients and delivering mothers, but it took fifty years or more for something that simple to catch on. Change takes a lot of time and effort. Eventually they admit that the the earth orbits the sun, and it's not flat. But until then, the only thing we can do is keep on keeping on, and give info to those who are seeking it. Annie Richard Goodwin wrote: One funny thing I have noticed is how difficult it is to convince anybody who doesn't already know about CS how amazing it is. Both of my groan, er, I mean, grown kids have worked at the New England Journal of Medicine, and they are True Believers in the AMA, FDA, and all things traditional western medicine. And they steadfastly refuse to believe in anything else. These are 30-somethings. At the moment. They totally scoff at the idea of CS, as if we are talking about voodoo or witchdoctors or something. Same reaction with people at work. So now I just don't bother much. I hear them coughing and sniffing, taking off sick, talking about the flu, getting their flu shots, getting colds, etc., and think how nice it is not to have to deal with any of that any more. But even when they are sick, they don't want to hear about CS. Of course it doesn't help that the powers that are against it have websites that they pay to keep at the front of google searches, that put down CS and try to scare people away from it. A friend of mine did a google search on it, and the first 3 or 4 items were quackwatch, some site from a university, the standard blue man and gray people pictures, etc. It's no wonder people get turned off to it. I looked into quackwatch, and found references to the guy who owns it having received awards from the FDA. No surprises there. The university sites were AMA connected. You have to pay to get your website up front on google like that, and I'll bet I know exactly who is paying in this case. Anyhow, interesting phenomenon, the resistance to learning about something new like this, or maybe it is just resistance to learning about anything that doesn't come from one's own doctor? Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSuse of high ppm CS ....question for Marshall Dudley
phone line CS Hahahahaha -- clever idea! But there would be some problems if you aren't careful. Standard phone line voltage is -48 volts DC, which would be fine for silver. But as the current increases, it would eventually reach a point where the local office equipment would think someone has taken a phone off-hook, and it would react accordingly, sending you a dial tone and waiting for you to reach out and touch someone. Only other problem you could have is a real surprise if you are handling the wires and someone calls -- 88 volts AC 20 Hz would give you a big of a tingle. Dick From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 1:36:10 PM Subject: Re: CSuse of high ppm CS question for Marshall Dudley dj...@home.nl wrote: Marshall Dudley hello, Johhny Silverseed form www.elixsilver.com uses vit C to make medicinal CS. Do you know if the vitamin C (ascorbic acid) also works like the citric acid? If you brew the EIS with ascorbic acid, the result should be silver ascorbate. Second question; Johnny Siverseed also uses a kinda phoneline to make CS , what do you think about that? I have heard of using the phone line for the voltage to make CS. I think it is illegal to do so under FCC regulations. Marshall I think that how cleaner the energysource is to make the CS the better. Maybe solarpanels are the best natural source? Trudy. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease
He is referring to the fact that the toxcidity of water is much greater than the toxcidity of silver in 20 ppm or less EIS. This can be easily confirmed by reading the MSDS of dihydrogen monoxide. Marshall Dan Nave wrote: Ode, you wrote: At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too toxic to survive that long if your metals elimination system is anywhere close to normal. What did you mean by this? Dan On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: What would be the chances of a Tankersley that doesn't know a very interesting old guy in Florida named Larry? EIS Electrically Isolated Silver... a phrase coined here to distinguish home made and most commercially available CS from the rest by manufacturing methodmostly contains charged particles aka ions and some uncharged particles in ratios up to ~ 80% ionic in solution and ~20% colloidal in suspension...a colloid/solution mix...generally not over 20 -30 PPM Pure colloids: Most 400 PPM is MSP or Mild Silver Proteina commercially available powder mixed with watersomething to stay away from and said to be 1/50th as effective due to large particle size and the protein coating on them hiding most of what surface area the particles have. The protein coating disables the silver enough that microbes have been found growing ON the particles IN the bottle. A new one from the lab supply houses is Nano Silver Powder derived by chemical processes or electro-sputtering...pretty rare in the supplements field so far and not much known about it...could be made very strong...might be pretty good...but be careful and watch that total. Its intended purpose is for glazes, anti bacterial coatings and paint additives etc. Then there's Meso Silver which no one knows how to make it or what it really is, but Frank Key...a good guy with a big secret. Some swear by it, some at it. Certainly something to try if a home brew isn't working. A semi pure colloid [ 90+% ? ] Then the non colloids tossed into the colloid basket, the impure ionic solutions such as Silver Citrate, Silver Acetate, Silver Nitrate...can be made very strong. While Silver isn't toxic, playing no nutritional role and having no biological niche, nor is it a Heavy Metal and normally is eliminated from the body at a pretty fast rate... some is always retained in the tissues..so.. at very high consumption rates over a period of time, the retained silver can cross a threshold and turn you blue [Argyria] but even so, it's not a health issue as would be too much copper retention. Many metals in colloidal form will kill microbes, [copper, zinc, bismuth, mercury and several others ] but most play a biological role and levels high enough to be effective would be quite toxic. Silver is an exception. A worst, Argyria is a very rare occurrence even at extreme silver exposures, but something to bear in mind. At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too toxic to survive that long if your metals elimination system is anywhere close to normal. The toxic in very small amounts trace element [micronutrient] Selenium is key to the control of levels of both copper and silver. Selenium can be fairly rare in soils, so even foods that would normally contain it can be deficient. Logically, if you have any nerve problems and live were copper is overly common, it might be copper toxicity and it would pay to check into Selenium levels before indulging in the use of a lot of Silver. A study done at Brigham Young University showed that water can be sterilized by silver in concentrations as low as 3 parts per billion...just that 3 parts per million did it much faster. Silver will kill just about any microbe it encounters. The tricky part is getting it there for an encounter. Inhalation is the next best thing to an injection. Even inhaled silver DUST will make it though the blood stream and ~94% come out the other end within 28 days. Ode At 08:45 AM 12/2/2009 -0600, you wrote: I'm really new to this CS thing, and I was wondering what EIS stands for also IE and ppm. If anyone could educate me I'd appreciate it. I notice that in the Health Store, there is different PPM's for silver. some as high as 400 ppm, some low as 10ppm, etc. Is the bigger number stronger and better for you? Thanks, Kathy - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:58 PM Subject: Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease Richard Goodwin wrote: Has anyone ever discovered what might be a reasonable minimum amount and frequency of CS to ingest to maintain health free of colds, flu, etc., assuming you are not trying to get over some disease? I ingested about one ounce a day of 5 ppm EIS for about 7 years, with nary a cold or flu. However due to the bluing of my fingernail moons over the last couple of years, after
Re: CSHelp wanted with embedded stone in medullary sponge kidney
There's been stuff in almost all of the alternative health groups with protocols for kidney, liver cleanses/flushes. Some involve epsom salts and olive oil protocols for relaxing ducts and allowing obstructions to be flushed. Hulda Clarks' are popular. Google Chuck I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people die of natural causes. On 12/3/2009 4:55:47 AM, Hanneke (bloss...@internode.on.net) wrote: A friend of mine wrote this to me, but I don't know of a solution to her problem. Would anyone have suggestions which could help her to remove the embedded stone short of surgical intervention? I don't know of anything to melt an embedded stone. One problem is I have a defective kidney. It's called a Medullary Sponge Kidney. I just learned a few years ago I had it. It's a birth defect. It didn't start causing noticeable problems until just a few years ago. Thanks in advance Hanneke -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CScirculation problems
In a message dated 12/3/2009 8:45:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, alanmjo...@gmail.com writes: Hi Brickey. Could you please elaborate on this? What is a CB ~4000 zapper, and what is the thyroid program? Thyroid program are frequencies 12, 35, and 8000. I run these frequencies for 5 or more minutes programmed into my GB-4000 zapper. The GB-4000 outputs like 250 volts on a carrier frequency of like 2.5 megahertz, so it so high that there is no awareness that my body is getting zapped. It uses up to 4 pads. I usually use two pads one under a foot and the second on my back. It goes up to 20 megahertz, and comes pre programmed with a bunch of frequencies which can be found by goggle CAFL. When the CAFL got started and it is frequencies that a bunch of people thought helped their illness (not tested) we were afraid to publish the list as big government would be upon us. A German, Peter Walker agreed to publish the list as he said he still lives in a free country! The list has never been tested and is only for experimental uses. The GB-4000 can be seen at _http://www.quantumbalancing.com/gb4000.htm_ (http://www.quantumbalancing.com/gb4000.htm) . When I bought mine it was $1700 plus about $500 for an amplifier. The GB-4000 outputs 80 volts and the amplifier brings it up to 250 volts. I can program the unit with my own frequencies and play them back just like the pre programmed sets. This is nice as new sets of frequencies are coming out all the time. Bruce Stenulson just published a list of flu frequencies. He said don't ask where he got them. I have them programmed in my unit just in case I get the flu. Brickey
CSRE: silver-digest Digest V2009 #763
There are non so enslaved, as those who believe themselves to be free. Paul I do s agree Dick! Even my friends who have had good results when I more or less forced it on them to try, still will not do it properly. The *won't* take enough, and of course if it doesn't work straightaway because they *haven't* taken enough; they then rush off to the docs for ABX's! Ok for if the dog is off its food, and one will now take it as a preventative i.e her husband had the 'flu jab and promptly got a stonking case of the 'flu. She was so scared of getting it that she *did* take CS properly. But then, her husband said well, she may not have got it anyway! What can you do? I had a huge row with her husband about it. He has had the 'flu jab three years on the go, and twice came down with a nasty virus, and this third time, full blown 'flu! He will still go and have the jab next year though. Plus he had all the ABX's even though they are no good whatsoever for viruses, plus he had the Tamiflu as well! I've decided I'm not bothering any more with people that won't be helped. I wouldn't mind, but *he* told *me* that I should have an open mind! Unbelievable! dee From: silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com [mailto:silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com] Sent: 03 December 2009 15:48 To: silver-dig...@eskimo.com Subject: silver-digest Digest V2009 #763
Re: CSuse of high ppm CS ....question for Marshall Dudley
This was one of Wayne Fugitt's favorite emergency devices. Go to http://www.fugitt.com/cs_notes/Generators_Build/ And check out Telephone Line CS Ma.. Chuck Think HONK if you're a telepath On 12/3/2009 1:55:49 PM, Richard Goodwin (dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com) wrote: phone line CS Hahahahaha -- clever idea! But there would be some problems if you aren't careful. Standard phone line voltage is -48 volts DC, which would be fine for silver. But as the current increases, it would eventually reach a point where the local office equipment would think someone has taken a phone off-hook, and it would react accordingly, sending you a dial tone and waiting for you to reach out and touch someone. Only other problem you could have is a real surprise if you are handling the wires and someone calls -- 88 volts AC 20 Hz would give you a big of a tingle. Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease
kmartjo...@aol.com wrote: Even inhaled silver DUST will make it though the blood stream and ~94% come out the other end within 28 days. What do you mean my..dustany danger in inhaling 5 ppm ionic silver Only from drowning. If in the form of a mist there is no problem at all. All silver particles are converted to silver oxide and silver hydroxide by action of H2O2 in the lungs, and absorbed into the blood stream over time. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease
Well, I thought that might be what he was trying to say, but it wasn't said clearly... Dan On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: He is referring to the fact that the toxcidity of water is much greater than the toxcidity of silver in 20 ppm or less EIS. This can be easily confirmed by reading the MSDS of dihydrogen monoxide. Marshall Dan Nave wrote: Ode, you wrote: At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too toxic to survive that long if your metals elimination system is anywhere close to normal. What did you mean by this? Dan On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 4:49 AM, Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net wrote: What would be the chances of a Tankersley that doesn't know a very interesting old guy in Florida named Larry? EIS Electrically Isolated Silver... a phrase coined here to distinguish home made and most commercially available CS from the rest by manufacturing methodmostly contains charged particles aka ions and some uncharged particles in ratios up to ~ 80% ionic in solution and ~20% colloidal in suspension...a colloid/solution mix...generally not over 20 -30 PPM Pure colloids: Most 400 PPM is MSP or Mild Silver Proteina commercially available powder mixed with watersomething to stay away from and said to be 1/50th as effective due to large particle size and the protein coating on them hiding most of what surface area the particles have. The protein coating disables the silver enough that microbes have been found growing ON the particles IN the bottle. A new one from the lab supply houses is Nano Silver Powder derived by chemical processes or electro-sputtering...pretty rare in the supplements field so far and not much known about it...could be made very strong...might be pretty good...but be careful and watch that total. Its intended purpose is for glazes, anti bacterial coatings and paint additives etc. Then there's Meso Silver which no one knows how to make it or what it really is, but Frank Key...a good guy with a big secret. Some swear by it, some at it. Certainly something to try if a home brew isn't working. A semi pure colloid [ 90+% ? ] Then the non colloids tossed into the colloid basket, the impure ionic solutions such as Silver Citrate, Silver Acetate, Silver Nitrate...can be made very strong. While Silver isn't toxic, playing no nutritional role and having no biological niche, nor is it a Heavy Metal and normally is eliminated from the body at a pretty fast rate... some is always retained in the tissues..so.. at very high consumption rates over a period of time, the retained silver can cross a threshold and turn you blue [Argyria] but even so, it's not a health issue as would be too much copper retention. Many metals in colloidal form will kill microbes, [copper, zinc, bismuth, mercury and several others ] but most play a biological role and levels high enough to be effective would be quite toxic. Silver is an exception. A worst, Argyria is a very rare occurrence even at extreme silver exposures, but something to bear in mind. At around 20 PPM and under, the water the silver is in would be too toxic to survive that long if your metals elimination system is anywhere close to normal. The toxic in very small amounts trace element [micronutrient] Selenium is key to the control of levels of both copper and silver. Selenium can be fairly rare in soils, so even foods that would normally contain it can be deficient. Logically, if you have any nerve problems and live were copper is overly common, it might be copper toxicity and it would pay to check into Selenium levels before indulging in the use of a lot of Silver. A study done at Brigham Young University showed that water can be sterilized by silver in concentrations as low as 3 parts per billion...just that 3 parts per million did it much faster. Silver will kill just about any microbe it encounters. The tricky part is getting it there for an encounter. Inhalation is the next best thing to an injection. Even inhaled silver DUST will make it though the blood stream and ~94% come out the other end within 28 days. Ode At 08:45 AM 12/2/2009 -0600, you wrote: I'm really new to this CS thing, and I was wondering what EIS stands for also IE and ppm. If anyone could educate me I'd appreciate it. I notice that in the Health Store, there is different PPM's for silver. some as high as 400 ppm, some low as 10ppm, etc. Is the bigger number stronger and better for you? Thanks, Kathy - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 2:58 PM Subject: Re: CSMinimum amount of CS to prevent disease Richard Goodwin wrote: Has anyone ever discovered what might be a reasonable minimum amount and frequency of CS to ingest to maintain health free of colds, flu,
CSCS solves a mystery problem
About a month ago my husband told me he felt nauseous had a headache and was dizzy and at one time nearly fainted. I was stumped because those symptoms could mean just about anything. I kept trying various things but my husband being a man was not real forthcoming with his problem other than to say he had a headache and was dizzy. This went on for 4 weeks until one day my son told me that once he had an ear infection and his symptoms were the same as his Dad's. So, I started the husband on 4 oz of CS every night before bed and first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and more if I could get him to sit still long enough to take it. Yesterday we were sitting at the kitchen table when my husband said he felt like there was something in his ear. I took a look and discovered a huge scab. Also, he no longer has any of the symptoms he first complained about so apparently he did have an ear infection and I'm thrilled to report the CS cured the infection in no time at all. I know...duh, of course. :) The strange thing to me is he never complained of any pain in his ear. It sure would have helped if he had, that way I could have been giving him CS much sooner. Also the husband thought my investment in a CS generator was a big waste of money...well, guess whose a big fan of CS now? ha ha All's well that ends well. Sandy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSunsubbing
you can create another account say thru yahoo just for the cs mail debbie From: Renee gaiac...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 5:49:18 PM Subject: RE: CSunsubbing If you just block the emails (as in block sender) you'll have to block each and every person that writes to the silver list. But if you send all the S-L messages to the delete folder you do it in one fell swoop. ;-) You can bounce the mail back if you block each sender--in mine there's a way to block and bounce, but I don't think it will do any good about getting the mail to stop. Good luck. Samala, Renee ---Original Message--- Thanks Renee, perhaps ill block the emails and they might bounce back. Its not that I am not interested in CS, im just trying to get my mail right down lol
Re: CSspreading the word
Dick, I agree. There seems to be universal resistance or deception maybe be a better term. I did stint as a Lab Manager for a hospital lab in the Duke Healthcare System. Shortly after I arrived, we began having a personnel shortage due to sickness. I decided to pull out my CS solution for the personnel shortage and began to offer it to people. Several were game and had almost miraculous responses. One lady that was sick that I offered it to looked at me as if I was from another planet. However, two wweks later she was still sick. So I asked her IF she wanted to get well? (Remember she was right in the middle of the Duke Healthcare System but nothing they tried worked) She said yes so I went and got her some. She was well in two days and singing the CS praises. I think the misery factor opens people up to it? After that I began to have people show up at my door asking for some of that silver stuff. When I left there were over 20 employees of the Duke System that were using CS. We even did some testing with CS in the Micro Dept. And it did great in MRSA (methicillin resistant staph aureaus). SS On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.comwrote: One funny thing I have noticed is how difficult it is to convince anybody who doesn't already know about CS how amazing it is. Both of my groan, er, I mean, grown kids have worked at the New England Journal of Medicine, and they are True Believers in the AMA, FDA, and all things traditional western medicine. And they steadfastly refuse to believe in anything else. These are 30-somethings. At the moment. They totally scoff at the idea of CS, as if we are talking about voodoo or witchdoctors or something. Same reaction with people at work. So now I just don't bother much. I hear them coughing and sniffing, taking off sick, talking about the flu, getting their flu shots, getting colds, etc., and think how nice it is not to have to deal with any of that any more. But even when they are sick, they don't want to hear about CS. Of course it doesn't help that the powers that are against it have websites that they pay to keep at the front of google searches, that put down CS and try to scare people away from it. A friend of mine did a google search on it, and the first 3 or 4 items were quackwatch, some site from a university, the standard blue man and gray people pictures, etc. It's no wonder people get turned off to it. I looked into quackwatch, and found references to the guy who owns it having received awards from the FDA. No surprises there. The university sites were AMA connected. You have to pay to get your website up front on google like that, and I'll bet I know exactly who is paying in this case. Anyhow, interesting phenomenon, the resistance to learning about something new like this, or maybe it is just resistance to learning about anything that doesn't come from one's own doctor? Dick
Re: CSCS solves a mystery problem
Nice going, Sandy!!! We'll all make believers out of 'em yet... :-) From: Sandy hollis302...@yahoo.com To: CS silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 4:19:58 PM Subject: CSCS solves a mystery problem About a month ago my husband told me he felt nauseous had a headache and was dizzy and at one time nearly fainted. I was stumped because those symptoms could mean just about anything. I kept trying various things but my husband being a man was not real forthcoming with his problem other than to say he had a headache and was dizzy. This went on for 4 weeks until one day my son told me that once he had an ear infection and his symptoms were the same as his Dad's. So, I started the husband on 4 oz of CS every night before bed and first thing in the morning on an empty stomach and more if I could get him to sit still long enough to take it. Yesterday we were sitting at the kitchen table when my husband said he felt like there was something in his ear. I took a look and discovered a huge scab. Also, he no longer has any of the symptoms he first complained about so apparently he did have an ear infection and I'm thrilled to report the CS cured the infection in no time at all. I know...duh, of course. :) The strange thing to me is he never complained of any pain in his ear. It sure would have helped if he had, that way I could have been giving him CS much sooner. Also the husband thought my investment in a CS generator was a big waste of money...well, guess whose a big fan of CS now? ha ha All's well that ends well. Sandy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: CSspreading the word
Awesome!!! That's a great success story. I guess I need to persevere... :-) Somebody once told me that changing the way people thing is like trying to change the course of the Queen Mary: You can turn the rudder, but it takes a long time for the ship to respond. Or in some cases I suppose it is like trying to change the course of the Titanic... :-) Dick Fm: Silver Smith cag@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 8:18:14 PM Subject: Re: CSspreading the word Dick, I agree. There seems to be universal resistance or deception maybe be a better term. I did stint as a Lab Manager for a hospital lab in the Duke Healthcare System. Shortly after I arrived, we began having a personnel shortage due to sickness. I decided to pull out my CS solution for the personnel shortage and began to offer it to people. Several were game and had almost miraculous responses. One lady that was sick that I offered it to looked at me as if I was from another planet. However, two wweks later she was still sick. So I asked her IF she wanted to get well? (Remember she was right in the middle of the Duke Healthcare System but nothing they tried worked) She said yes so I went and got her some. She was well in two days and singing the CS praises. I think the misery factor opens people up to it? After that I began to have people show up at my door asking for some of that silver stuff. When I left there were over 20 employees of the Duke System that were using CS. We even did some testing with CS in the Micro Dept. And it did great in MRSA (methicillin resistant staph aureaus). SS On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:29 AM, Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com wrote: One funny thing I have noticed is how difficult it is to convince anybody who doesn't already know about CS how amazing it is. Both of my groan, er, I mean, grown kids have worked at the New England Journal of Medicine, and they are True Believers in the AMA, FDA, and all things traditional western medicine. And they steadfastly refuse to believe in anything else. These are 30-somethings. At the moment. They totally scoff at the idea of CS, as if we are talking about voodoo or witchdoctors or something. Same reaction with people at work. So now I just don't bother much. I hear them coughing and sniffing, taking off sick, talking about the flu, getting their flu shots, getting colds, etc., and think how nice it is not to have to deal with any of that any more. But even when they are sick, they don't want to hear about CS. Of course it doesn't help that the powers that are against it have websites that they pay to keep at the front of google searches, that put down CS and try to scare people away from it. A friend of mine did a google search on it, and the first 3 or 4 items were quackwatch, some site from a university, the standard blue man and gray people pictures, etc. It's no wonder people get turned off to it. I looked into quackwatch, and found references to the guy who owns it having received awards from the FDA. No surprises there. The university sites were AMA connected. You have to pay to get your website up front on google like that, and I'll bet I know exactly who is paying in this case. Anyhow, interesting phenomenon, the resistance to learning about something new like this, or maybe it is just resistance to learning about anything that doesn't come from one's own doctor? Dick
CSSilver Acetate
Does anyone know a correct % solution for making silver acetate. For citric acid (CS) a 5 % solution is being used. I can control the mA and use Faraday calc to determine the ppm. I am in Brazil right now and Distilled water is hard to come by and would like to make some high ppm CS in case of emergency. I would be able to dilute it down using the mineral water here. The city water is pretty bad and we have had little rain here for some unknown reason. The streets are dusty and I live in a tropical region. If I can I would like to make 400 ppm CS and dilute it 10 to1 or 20 to 1. TIA Sam L. -- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you have.
CSspreading the word
They totally scoff at the idea of CS, as if we are talking about voodoo or witchdoctors or something. It's a common misconception that the use of colloidal silver is based on some pagan cult worship of silver. Or that its a homeopathic remedy. Neither of these are true of course. The use of silver had, and continues to have, a very substantial scientific and medical background. (Just look up colloidal silver in Wikipedia). So at one end of the story we have silver's proven in-vitro antibiotic properties, and at the other end we have a mountain of anecdotal evidence that it works in real life. The 'missing link' that is required to convince the skeptics is 'evidence based in-vivo studies.' (In other words, credible human trials.) Unfortunately we'll probably never have those unless someone like Bill Gates gets interested, or the NCCAM funds a trial. (As, according to their charter, they should. Instead they seem intent on researching rubbish that is doomed to failure, further proving the lack of effectiveness of alternative medicine.) Heres a site that has a heap of scientific research about silver. http://robholladay99.tripod.com/cs1index.htm By the way, you can't pay to get a website to the top of a google search (other than the obvious paid Google Adwords spots). Those sites that you mention rate highly because they have a lot of words, they get clicked a lot, and because so many other sites link to them. David From: Richard Goodwin dickgoodwin2...@yahoo.com Date: 3 December 2009 11:59:35 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSspreading the word One funny thing I have noticed is how difficult it is to convince anybody who doesn't already know about CS how amazing it is. Both of my groan, er, I mean, grown kids have worked at the New England Journal of Medicine, and they are True Believers in the AMA, FDA, and all things traditional western medicine. And they steadfastly refuse to believe in anything else. These are 30- somethings. At the moment. They totally scoff at the idea of CS, as if we are talking about voodoo or witchdoctors or something. Same reaction with people at work. So now I just don't bother much. I hear them coughing and sniffing, taking off sick, talking about the flu, getting their flu shots, getting colds, etc., and think how nice it is not to have to deal with any of that any more. But even when they are sick, they don't want to hear about CS. Of course it doesn't help that the powers that are against it have websites that they pay to keep at the front of google searches, that put down CS and try to scare people away from it. A friend of mine did a google search on it, and the first 3 or 4 items were quackwatch, some site from a university, the standard blue man and gray people pictures, etc. It's no wonder people get turned off to it. I looked into quackwatch, and found references to the guy who owns it having received awards from the FDA. No surprises there. The university sites were AMA connected. You have to pay to get your website up front on google like that, and I'll bet I know exactly who is paying in this case. Anyhow, interesting phenomenon, the resistance to learning about something new like this, or maybe it is just resistance to learning about anything that doesn't come from one's own doctor? Dick -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for asthma
Have you tried acupuncture and herbs? - Original Message - From: Kathy Tankersley To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 7:23 AM Subject: CSCS for asthma I've had asthma for several years, I'm on advair and another 'rescue inhaler'' I was wondering if anyone on the list has had any experience with using CS for asthma? Also using a mist inhaler for inhaling CS? Thanks for answering, I'm very new to CS and have only been using it for a couple months. Thanks, Kathy
CSkidney stones
My grandson developed kidney stones when he was put in a full cast after falling off a cliff. They were going to go in to remove them in a week. While he waited his father made tea by boiling bunches of parsley he bough at the grocery store, and he sipped on it all day long while he waited for surgery. He began peeing gravel and when he went in for the surgery, the doctors said they couldn't find any stones. I have also read that canned asparagus, slurried in a food processor with some water and drank 3 or 4 times a day also dissolved kidney stones. Worth a try. Dick
