Re: CS>CS and Anthrax and Homeland Security

[Ode Coyote]

  I don't recall HLS doing that [being fond of using Chlorine Dioxide 
"MMS" to decontaminate offices], but there was some flap about American 
Biotech having an Army contract.


ode


At 10:48 PM 12/13/2009 -0600, you wrote:
Do I remember someone reporting that Homeland Security had purchased CS 
because of its effectiveness on anthrax?  Better than what they had?  I 
think they bought it from a company?


Thanks,
SS



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Re: CS>Dentists - Lingual Nerve

[Ode Coyote]

  Never mind that most of those cheaper Canadian drugs were made in 
America...even *called* "Re-imports"
Isn't it weird that we can make something, export it and then import it 
again...for a LOT less than NOT doing that?


 Everything the Gummint does makes sense, ey?

Ode


At 07:17 AM 12/14/2009 -0800, you wrote:

Steve,

 Well of course it's a conspiracy.  Big pharma conspires with the FDA 
to keep natural medicines out of the hands of the populace, they conspire 
between themselves to fix prices, and they conspire with lawmakers to 
make sure that only their products are available for use and 
purchase.  Right now their conspiring with the White House and congress 
to keep cheaper Canadian drugs off of the American market.


 Bob

- Original Message -
From: Steve
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Dentists - Lingual Nerve

Well, I agree that we need to be in charge of our own health.  I'm a big 
believer in being self
reliant and not trusting others to take care of us.  Of course, that is 
what's lead me to exploring colloidal silver, and other alternative therapies.


We are constantly under assault in all walks of life by people and 
organizations who want to exploit us.  I don't think we should trust 
anyone who hasn't earned our trust.  The biggest offender in this regard 
is our government.



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From: Richard Goodwin 
Subject: Re: CS>Dentists - Lingual Nerve
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 7:37 AM

I agree -- for sure there are some inept ignorant people who are doctors 
and dentists, just as there are in any profession.  But doctors in 
particular largely have their hands tied, first by their education -- 
they didn't used to even recognize vitamins not too many years ago, and 
they almost universally don't recognize silver or any other alternative 
medicine today -- but mostly by the joint actions of big pharma, and 
their police force the FDA, and by the AMA.  And of course the insurance 
companies.  Medicine today is all about making the most profits for 
pharmas and insurance companies, and is not about what is best for 
patients.  That's why we have to be in charge of our own health.


And it's not a conspiracy theory, unless you consider that a big 
company, all of whose people collaborate to generate profits, is a conspiracy.


Dick



From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, December 12, 2009 7:30:04 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Dentists - Lingual Nerve

But often the drugs given by doctors are what causes the body to stay 
sick, or become sicker.  Take vaccines for instance, nearly every single 
person I meet who had the 'flu vaccine has become *really* ill.  The 
doctors may not be aware of it, but they believe the drug companies who 
of course, have a vested interest.  Some doctors too, like my friend's 
who has put her on statins and blood pressure meds when she had neither 
high blood pressure *or* high cholesterol.  dee


Almost all disease comes initially from incorrect nutrition and/or 
ignorance of what can make our bodies sick.  Not all of course, but most. dee


On 12 Dec 2009, at 04:23, Steve wrote:


I'm not much into conspiracy theories.

I refuse do believe that All Doctors work hard to keep their clients 
ill.  From what I can tell, they are mostly overworked and would be 
happy to see less of their patients due to good health.I've had a 
lot of different doctors over the years.   Absolutely no evidence that 
that any of them had anything in mind other than the best care they 
could give me.  Of all of them, my present doctor is my favorite.   He 
wants me well, and is obviously very concerned about what is in my best 
interest.


My wife sees a lot of different doctors because she is very ill.  Her 
doctors don't keep her sick, they don't need to.  Her body does that on 
it's own.


I'm sure that, just as in any profession, some doctors do not do a very 
good job.  I believe that these persons are the exception and not the rule.





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Re: CS>Info on Yeast treatments

[Sandee George]

My suggestion is to check out unstripped coconut oil - this handles  
the over production of the yeast !!!

Check a book called "Coconut cures by Dr Bruce Fife.
Take good care and have a great day
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Re: CS>Info on Yeast treatments

[Annie B Smythe]

That's where they get caprylic acid, LOL, from 
coconut oil. Or at least that's what the site I 
was on said anyway/


Annie

Sandee George wrote:
My suggestion is to check out unstripped coconut oil - this handles the 
over production of the yeast !!!

Check a book called "Coconut cures by Dr Bruce Fife.
Take good care and have a great day
Sandee


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Re: CS>OT Mental Clarity

[Del]

Well, most of the responses so far are about supplements and exercise, which 
are very important for overall mental health.
But a great help to me at times for concentration and creativity are the 
following CD's, which use binaural beat technology to enhance both 
concentration and creativity:
http://www.immrama.org/focus/focus.html
http://www.amazon.com/Music-Brainwave-Massage-Sound-Medicine/dp/1559617799/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=126094&sr=8-2

For my money, Jeffrey Thompson is far and away the best creator of healing 
soundtracks (the Brainwave Massage disk).  If you are interested a a soundtrack 
that helps you sleep, I love the following:
http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Nap-Dr-Jeffrey-Thompson/dp/B000FFJ7ZO/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1260888514&sr=8-12

These are all CD's but if you have an Ipod you can usually purchase an MP3 
download for half the cd price.
These must be listened to on headphones because they feed different beats into 
each ear to achieve the desired brainwave effect.

Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Maahs 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 8:51 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>OT Mental Clarity


  Thank you all for the information. I'm starting to go through it now.

  More information: What I mean is ability to focus. Usually I'll have trouble 
concentrating on something I'm reading, like my screen at work while 
programming. Other times it might be a book or long email.

  I'm 48. Stopped smoking 5 years ago and gained weight. I've told the doctor 
maybe it's the crestor and he says its not enough blood to the brain cause I'm 
fat. (Yeah he tells it like it is so I stay with him.)

  I've been taking Ginko (~120 mg/day) and Omega 3 along with some other 
supplements. 






--
  From: "Norton, Steve" 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 5:50:32 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>OT Mental Clarity


  It depends on what you mean by helping mental clarity. Is it mental tiredness 
or something more like memory loss?

Re: CS>Cancer Can Be Beaten | The Dr. Rath Health Foundation

[Dan Nave]

Where can one find information regarding dosage amounts for the
protocols he is suggesting?

I was not able to find anything like that on the website.

Thanks,

Dan

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Brooks Bradley  wrote:
>       Although this talk was given, by Mathias Rath, in 2002...the only
> change, since then, seems to be that the geneal situation involving
> allopathic attempts at treatment.are just
> continuing to fail-as an effective address for overcoming
> carcinoma and its effects.
>                 Sincerely,   Brooks Bradley
>
>
> http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/NHC/cancer/lecture/new_york_2002_09_29.htm
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Re: CS>Cancer Can Be Beaten | The Dr. Rath Health Foundation

[Sandy]

Hi Dan,

I found this site which sells Dr Rath's formulas and it gives the dosages. I 
found if you goggle the product you're interested in there will be sites who 
sell them and will give dosages.

http://www.drrathvitamins.com/products/pdrelavit.html

Regards,
Sandy

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Dan Nave  wrote:

From: Dan Nave 
Subject: Re: CS>Cancer Can Be Beaten | The Dr. Rath Health Foundation
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 10:12 AM

Where can one find information regarding dosage amounts for the
protocols he is suggesting?


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Re: CS>Please unsubscribe me

[Sandy]

Hi MA,

Ive had a change of heart with the help of our very patient and kind list 
owner. :)

Best regards,
Sandy

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Subject: Re: CS>Please unsubscribe me
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:54 AM

Oh, that's a shame.
MA





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Re: CS>Please unsubscribe me

[MaryAnn Helland]

I'm glad Sandy.  I always enjoy your posts, and think you have much to offer 
here.  :-)





From: Sandy 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 12:11:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Please unsubscribe me


Hi MA,

Ive had a change of heart with the help of our very patient and kind list 
owner. :)

Best regards,
Sandy

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>Subject: Re: CS>Please unsubscribe me
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:54 AM
>
>
>Oh, that's a shame.
>MA
>
>
>
>

From: Sandy 
>To: CS ; SO 
>Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 8:23:54 AM
>Subject: CS>Please unsubscribe me
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Re: CS>OT Mental Clarity

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I've never heard that one before!  dee


On 15 Dec 2009, at 01:51, Jeff Maahs wrote:

> 
> 
> I'm 48. Stopped smoking 5 years ago and gained weight. I've told the doctor 
> maybe it's the crestor and he says its not enough blood to the brain cause 
> I'm fat. (Yeah he tells it like it is so I stay with him.)
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 

Re: CS>OT Mental Clarity

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Is Crestor a statin?  If so, this will definitely cause this sort of thing as I 
know from experience!  dee

On 15 Dec 2009, at 02:07, Craig Chamberlin wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
> 
> You may also want to get on the iodine list at yahoogroups.com...much of what 
> you are describing "could" be attributed to hypothyroid, iodine deficiency, 
> etc.  It is a bit overwhelming, but filled with information about how to get 
> OTC testing (saliva) and what taking Iodoral (Lugol's in the form of a tablet)
> 
> It has worked for me, as has the alkalizing water from an ionizing water 
> filter, which Marshall has detailed in a previous message.
> 
> Also may want to check the side effects of Crestor:)
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Craig
> 


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Re: CS>Dentists - Lingual Nerve

[Dan Nave]

Conspiracy has to to with conspiring.  If there is no cooperation or
coordination, then it is not a conspiracy.  Two or more people doing
the same thing without an understanding or coordination is not a
conspiracy.  A conspiracy to defraud is not necessarily a conspiracy
to subjugate.  etc.

Dan

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 1:00 PM, Marshall Dudley  wrote:
> Well, if you have a group of people working toward a common goal it is
> either co-operation if the goal is positive, or a conspiracy if the goal is
> negative.  The word conspiracy is a charged word that is used by those who
> are often behind conspiracies to make them seem laughable.
>
> Marshall
>
> Richard Goodwin wrote:
>>
>> And it's not a conspiracy theory, unless you consider that a big company,
>> all of whose people collaborate to generate profits, is a conspiracy.
>>
>> Dick
>>
>
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Re: CS>Thank you, MA

[Sandy]

I truly appreciate your kind words, MA. I love this site and have learned so 
much invaluable information. I realized it would be silly to unsubscribe in a 
fit of pique...I'd only be hurting myself.

Warm regards,
Sandy

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, MaryAnn Helland  wrote:

From: MaryAnn Helland 
Subject: Re: CS>Please unsubscribe me
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 12:50 PM

I'm glad Sandy.  I always enjoy your posts, and think you have much to offer 
here.  :-)





From: Sandy 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 12:11:11 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Please unsubscribe me





Hi MA,

Ive had a change of heart with the help of our very patient and kind list 
owner. :)

Best regards,
Sandy

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From: MaryAnn Helland 
Subject: Re: CS>Please unsubscribe me
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Monday, December 14, 2009, 10:54 AM






Oh, that's a shame.
MA





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Subject: CS>Please unsubscribe me







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Re: CS>Please unsubscribe me

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I'm so glad Sandy.  dee

On 15 Dec 2009, at 18:11, Sandy wrote:

> Hi MA,
> 
> Ive had a change of heart with the help of our very patient and kind list 
> owner. :)
> 
> Best regards,
> Sandy
> 

Re: CS>CS and Anthrax and Homeland Security

[Sunwaterclear - Sunny]

Interesting.  I've heard from the Jim Humble book that MMS is very effective 
against anthrax.  And sadly, there's not much funding for the kind of 
scientific research the gov has imposed on 'healing' so much so that only the 
drg companies can afford it.  What a vicious circle.

It wouldn't surprize me if hs had used it.. but it probably wouldn't be out 
there much, because there is another agenda when it comes to our healing and it 
doesn't involve promoting things that don't put lots of pennies in certain 
pockets.  

What I believe really matters is that we find our own healing and wellness 
products and continue to use them and to share them with others as best we 
can.  I salute the owner of this list for not getting uppity about peole 
discussing other wellness products. I sense that people who come to a list like 
this are already sorting for alternative wellness and coming across lots of 
really cool things..

I love MMS and CS for the very fact that they are both harmless or appear to 
be.   I've taken MMS for a year regularly, stopped for a while and started to 
redose myself weekly or twice weekly in the winter season.   When I feel a bit 
under I take some.   I got rid of a urinary infection that would have been a 
ripe case for antibiotics and I did it in a week with 10 drops of MMS a day and 
sometimes an extra 5 a day.   

with love and smiles
sunny
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sounds great... 
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From: Ode Coyote 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 5:35:29 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Anthrax and Homeland Security



  I don't recall HLS doing that [being fond of using Chlorine Dioxide "MMS" to 
decontaminate offices], but there was some flap about American Biotech having 
an Army contract.

ode


At 10:48 PM 12/13/2009 -0600, you wrote:
> Do I remember someone reporting that Homeland Security had purchased CS 
> because of its effectiveness on anthrax?  Better than what they had?  I think 
> they bought it from a company?
> 
> Thanks,
> SS


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Re: CS>CS and Anthrax and Homeland Security

[slickpicker]

I've used the Silvergen for several years and like its simplicity and the 
quality of the EIS it produces.  The only problem I've had (twice) was that the 
stirring motor froze and I had to have it replaced.

 Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote: 

=
Interesting.  I've heard from the Jim Humble book that MMS is very effective 
against anthrax.  And sadly, there's not much funding for the kind of 
scientific research the gov has imposed on 'healing' so much so that only the 
drg companies can afford it.  What a vicious circle.

It wouldn't surprize me if hs had used it.. but it probably wouldn't be out 
there much, because there is another agenda when it comes to our healing and it 
doesn't involve promoting things that don't put lots of pennies in certain 
pockets.  

What I believe really matters is that we find our own healing and wellness 
products and continue to use them and to share them with others as best we 
can.  I salute the owner of this list for not getting uppity about peole 
discussing other wellness products. I sense that people who come to a list like 
this are already sorting for alternative wellness and coming across lots of 
really cool things..

I love MMS and CS for the very fact that they are both harmless or appear to 
be.   I've taken MMS for a year regularly, stopped for a while and started to 
redose myself weekly or twice weekly in the winter season.   When I feel a bit 
under I take some.   I got rid of a urinary infection that would have been a 
ripe case for antibiotics and I did it in a week with 10 drops of MMS a day and 
sometimes an extra 5 a day.   

with love and smiles
sunny
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sounds great... 
ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS?

 
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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tue, December 15, 2009 5:35:29 AM
Subject: Re: CS>CS and Anthrax and Homeland Security



  I don't recall HLS doing that [being fond of using Chlorine Dioxide "MMS" to 
decontaminate offices], but there was some flap about American Biotech having 
an Army contract.

ode


At 10:48 PM 12/13/2009 -0600, you wrote:
> Do I remember someone reporting that Homeland Security had purchased CS 
> because of its effectiveness on anthrax?  Better than what they had?  I think 
> they bought it from a company?
> 
> Thanks,
> SS


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RE: CS>Migraines

[Norton, Steve]

I had seen this site previously and found it to be superficial at best.
>From the site home page:

"The purpose of this site is to examine the credibility of these claims
from the standpoint of our present-day understanding of science. The
latter, of course, is always evolving and is never complete, but it
makes an excellent "B.S. filter" that is almost always reliable."

I like those words but he doesn't fulfill them. From the page you cited
below:

"The Journal of Medicinal Food seems to be a favorite place to publish
stuff whose authors place degrees (often phony ones) after their names.
The second article, whose senior author has a Ph.D. in physical
education and who appears to be the only legitimate faculty researcher
cited in any of the references, reports a double-blind study of six
subjects in which reduced blood lactate concentrations were observed
following 40-km simulated bicycling trials. I'll leave it to those more
knowledgable about physiology than me to evaluate these papers."

Not exactly a science based evaluation. Regarding the study he did
mention above, here is what Ray Sahelian, M.D, says at
http://www.raysahelian.com/silica.html:

"Effects of microhydrin supplementation on endurance performance and
metabolism in well-trained cyclists.
Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2004 Oct;14(5):560-73. Dept of Human
Biology and Nutritional Sciences, University of Guelph, Guelph, Ontario,
Canada N1G 2W1.
This study investigated whether the supplement Microhydrin contains
silica hydride bonds (Si-H) and if Microhydrin supplementation increased
performance or altered metabolism compared to placebo during prolonged
endurance cycling. Seven endurance-trained male cyclists consumed 9.6 g
of Microhydrin or placebo over 48 h in a randomized, double-blind,
crossover design. The results indicate that oral Microhydrin
supplementation does not enhance cycling time trial performance or alter
metabolism during prolonged submaximal exercise in endurance-trained
cyclists"

Frankly, I don't think much about the accuracy of the site or the
technical competence of the site owner.

 - Steve N

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Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Migraines

See also

http://www.chem1.com/CQ/FlanBunk.html

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Re: CS>OT Mental Clarity

[Steve]

Crestor is indeed one of the statin drugs.

Sounds like something to brush your teeth with though, but I wouldn't recommend 
it.

Steve

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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
Subject: Re: CS>OT Mental Clarity
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 1:59 PM

Is Crestor a statin?  If so, this will definitely cause this sort of thing as I 
know from experience!  dee

On 15 Dec 2009, at 02:07, Craig Chamberlin wrote:

> Hi Jeff,
> 
> You may also want to get on the iodine list at yahoogroups.com...much of what 
> you are describing "could" be attributed to hypothyroid, iodine deficiency, 
> etc.  It is a bit overwhelming, but filled with information about how to get 
> OTC testing (saliva) and what taking Iodoral (Lugol's in the form of a tablet)
> 
> It has worked for me, as has the alkalizing water from an ionizing water 
> filter, which Marshall has detailed in a previous message.
> 
> Also may want to check the side effects of Crestor:)
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> Craig
> 


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CS>Fw: Does CS work?

[Sunwaterclear - Sunny]

 
My husband, who is into trying out all kinds of alternatives, just asked me... 
does this stuff work ?  I said it's the same with MMS, I did get rid of the 
infection and he did notice that when he was taking it and wearing snake boots 
all day his feet stopped smelling and beyond that we only have other 
people's personal testimonials.

I've taken CS only by spraying it in my mouth.. for my teeth.  I can't say I've 
used it to deal with some infection or other... I'm into taking something and 
thinking about prevention.

Jim Humble says of MMS that he's used it loads of times and tried it out a lot 
on himself... but he doesn't have the money to research it so there's no 
'scientific' evidence as such.

My husband said 'well can they put it on something on a microscope and show how 
it dispels pathogens'.  

Is there any research on CS or somewhere anyone can point me to where 
scientific type experiments of any sort have been performed and shown some kind 
of result against a control group?

I personally think that human testimonial is great.. but often we take a number 
of things together when we're pursuing the alternative route... so it could be 
difficult to know what's working.

Asking these questions is merely anticipating the kind of questions 
people might well ask when we talk to them of CS.

I had this sense that there are some highly knowledgeable people on this list 
including some who have done their own tests or know about those that have been 
done.. As it's not a FDA approved item, I don't expect that kind of research.. 
we don't have that luxury with these kind of remedies...and anyway the FDA 
ratifies things that poison us!

It's like my neighbors father who was in and out of hospital visits for 
diarrhoea and then finally got fed up and went home, remembered all his stuff 
about home remedies, fell out of the allopathic trance, went up in his forest 
and cut some red oak bark.. took it in water for four days and got rid of 
something modernmedicine couldn't.  Hardly a scientific test, but I'd surely 
try it if I had something similar..

smiles
sunny
 
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Re: CS>Fw: Does CS work?

[Sandy]

Hello Sunny,

You may find this helpful.

Research on colloidal silver.

http://robholladay99.tripod.com/cs1index.htm

Sandy

--- On Tue, 12/15/09, Sunwaterclear - Sunny  wrote:

From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
Subject: CS>Fw: Does CS work?
To: "Silver List" 
Date: Tuesday, December 15, 2009, 8:20 PM

 
Is there any research on CS or somewhere anyone can point me to where 
scientific type experiments of any sort have been performed and shown some kind 
of result against a control group?
 
 




  


  

CS>Does CS work?

[Alchemysa]

"My husband said 'well can they put it on something on a microscope  
and show how it dispels pathogens'."


'They' have already done that hundreds of times...

http://robholladay99.tripod.com/cs1index.htm

Theres a mountain of genuine scientific evidence to prove that silver  
kills germs in lab tests.  No credible researcher disputes that.   
Even 'Quackwatch', the ultimate anti-cs site, does not dispute that  
it works in-vitro (test tubes). Unfortunately no clinical human  
trials have been conducted to prove that it works in real life. There  
are a number of reasons for this including the fact that human trials  
cost millions of dollars.


You'll have to settle for testimonies..,
http://www.csfacts.com/pages/for.html

David









From: Sunwaterclear - Sunny 
Date: 16 December 2009 12:50:10 PM
To: Silver List 
Subject: CS>Fw: Does CS work?





My husband, who is into trying out all kinds of alternatives, just  
asked me... does this stuff work ?  I said it's the same with MMS,  
I did get rid of the infection and he did notice that when he was  
taking it and wearing snake boots all day his feet stopped smelling  
and beyond that we only have other people's personal testimonials.


I've taken CS only by spraying it in my mouth.. for my teeth.  I  
can't say I've used it to deal with some infection or other... I'm  
into taking something and thinking about prevention.


Jim Humble says of MMS that he's used it loads of times and tried  
it out a lot on himself... but he doesn't have the money to  
research it so there's no 'scientific' evidence as such.


My husband said 'well can they put it on something on a microscope  
and show how it dispels pathogens'.


Is there any research on CS or somewhere anyone can point me to  
where scientific type experiments of any sort have been performed  
and shown some kind of result against a control group?


I personally think that human testimonial is great.. but often we  
take a number of things together when we're pursuing the  
alternative route... so it could be difficult to know what's working.


Asking these questions is merely anticipating the kind of questions  
people might well ask when we talk to them of CS.


I had this sense that there are some highly knowledgeable people on  
this list including some who have done their own tests or know  
about those that have been done.. As it's not a FDA approved item,  
I don't expect that kind of research.. we don't have that luxury  
with these kind of remedies...and anyway the FDA ratifies things  
that poison us!


It's like my neighbors father who was in and out of hospital visits  
for diarrhoea and then finally got fed up and went home, remembered  
all his stuff about home remedies, fell out of the allopathic  
trance, went up in his forest and cut some red oak bark.. took it  
in water for four days and got rid of something modernmedicine  
couldn't.  Hardly a scientific test, but I'd surely try it if I had  
something similar..


smiles
sunny

A peek into our world..
World Human Orientation - The blog In depth articles - WHO are we?  
WHY is this happening? Where are we going? WHAT has to happen for  
us to evolve and emerge?








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Re: CS>Migraines

[Annie B Smythe]

Which site?

And yes, Dr Sahelian has some very good info. He 
always backs up statements with facts. And he 
doesn't recommend anything really without some 
studies behind it. I know he's been leery of 
supplementing large doses of vit D3. But some 
people need the large doses for a while until they 
get a decent blood level. And there are studies 
that back the blood levels up. So I use Dr 
Sahelian's site, and a couple of others, to touch 
base and then branch out looking for other 
information, studies and research.


Annie




Norton, Steve wrote:

I had seen this site previously and found it to be superficial at best.

From the site home page:


"The purpose of this site is to examine the credibility of these claims
from the standpoint of our present-day understanding of science. The
latter, of course, is always evolving and is never complete, but it
makes an excellent "B.S. filter" that is almost always reliable."

I like those words but he doesn't fulfill them. From the page you cited
below:

"The Journal of Medicinal Food seems to be a favorite place to publish
stuff whose authors place degrees (often phony ones) after their names.
The second article, whose senior author has a Ph.D. in physical
education and who appears to be the only legitimate faculty researcher
cited in any of the references, reports a double-blind study of six
subjects in which reduced blood lactate concentrations were observed
following 40-km simulated bicycling trials. I'll leave it to those more
knowledgable about physiology than me to evaluate these papers."

Not exactly a science based evaluation. Regarding the study he did
mention above, here is what Ray Sahelian, M.D, says at
http://www.raysahelian.com/silica.html:

"Effects of microhydrin supplementation on endurance performance and
metabolism in well-trained cyclists.
Int J Sport Nutr Exerc Metab. 2004 Oct;14(5):560-73. Dept of Human
Biology and Nutritional Sciences, University of Guelph, Guelph, Ontario,
Canada N1G 2W1.
This study investigated whether the supplement Microhydrin contains
silica hydride bonds (Si-H) and if Microhydrin supplementation increased
performance or altered metabolism compared to placebo during prolonged
endurance cycling. Seven endurance-trained male cyclists consumed 9.6 g
of Microhydrin or placebo over 48 h in a randomized, double-blind,
crossover design. The results indicate that oral Microhydrin
supplementation does not enhance cycling time trial performance or alter
metabolism during prolonged submaximal exercise in endurance-trained
cyclists"

Frankly, I don't think much about the accuracy of the site or the
technical competence of the site owner.

 - Steve N

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Subject: CS>Migraines

See also

http://www.chem1.com/CQ/FlanBunk.html

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