Re: CS>Colloid Master??

[Pat]

I sometimes set the Colloid Master on six, but will try leaving it lower.  The 
company recommended 5.5.  I use a regular one quart canning jar.  I didn't know 
you could use wires or coins with it, but that makes sense.  I like that idea 
of cutting slots into a lid for the electrodes.  That would keep them in place 
better. 

 I agree that it couldn't be much easier, just takes a minute to start it up 
and then I get back to it sometime the next day and it's shut itself off.

Pat


  


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RE: CS>Question

[Louise Larabie]

You would be surprised as some of the other things people have said about
Colloidal Silver like that it will rot out their organs (this is a person
that knows I have taken used CS since 1977) but there is no logic to their
thinking.  I suspect that because Silver nitrate is a colloidal silver to
some and very caustic.  They seem to consider the silver caustic when it is
the medium it is dissolved in that makes it caustic.

But they have it in their mind it is bad and no logical facts can change
their minds.

I would laugh to but it is really sad they believing that it is that
poisonous.

Louise

-Original Message-
From: sol [mailto:sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 3:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Question

At 09:20 AM 2/27/2010, you wrote:
>Some people say taking colloidal silver is like taking Arsenic. What 
>do you say to people like that?


I can't say anything, too busy ROTFL.
sol 



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RE: CS>Sweeteners , where to get XYLITOL

[Louise Larabie]

Do be cautious with it if you have dogs as pets and it is poisonous to dogs.
http://www.diabetesdaily.com/edelman/2006/05/xylitol-sugar-s.php  
http://www.snopes.com/critters/crusader/xylitol.asp   (conclusion true)

Louise



From: Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 12:47 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Sweeteners , where to get XYLITOL

snip

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
Herbalist 
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com






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Re: CS>Sweeteners , where to get XYLITOL

[Steve G]

My bag of xylitol says that it is extracted from corn somehow.    I googled the 
stuff and there are a number fruits and vegetables that can provide this, 
including birch as well as corn.

I don't use it for anything that my wife may consume as she has a very 
pronounced reaction to consuming anything made with corn, corn starch or corn 
syrup.  Instead of her normal daily migraine, she has extremely severe 
migraines for the next three days.   We are always being blind sided too.   

Xylitol is great for me, but I won't risk it for my wife... sigh!

Truthfully, I didn't know that people had a hard time getting this stuff.  I 
just bought my bag of it at the local health food store and didn't think 
anything of it.

Steve





--- On Sat, 2/27/10, Tel Tofflemire  wrote:

From: Tel Tofflemire 
Subject: CS>Sweeteners , where to  get XYLITOL
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 12:46 PM

Go to http://www.emeraldforestsugar.com
 Xylitol is a sweetener made from biomass,  From a company called Emerald 
Forrest, I have used it for many years, it is used by millions of Diabetics 
successfully. I used to have  to buy it in Sweden , but a few years ago they 
put a plant in Colorado. Xylitol  from this plant is all natural and made from 
Birch Bark.  It is very low in carbs and Calories. In Cooking Xylitol is one to 
one in a recipe that calls for sugar, and it tastes just like real sugar 
(without the fat left on your bones.) 
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.Herbalist http://www.quailwoodherbal.com







  


  

Re: CS>Colloid Master??

[MaryAnn Helland]

Hi Dee -- the Silver Puppy has a superb reputation, and it's no surprise that 
you're happy with it.  But I wanted to clarify your misconception -- the 
Colloid Master is not complicated.  My routine for making a jar of CS is to 
attach the alligator clips to the silver bars, plug the unit in and press the 
*start* button.  Couldn't be simpler.  And like you, no crud.  I suspect that 
the people having this problem simply have their ppm-level set too high.
All that silver is gonna go someplace if the unit is brewing for three or four 
times longer than needed.
MA





From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 10:18:26 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloid Master??

I have a Silver Puppy and I *always* brew in the light and I always get clear 
CS!  The Colloid Master sounds a bit complicated for me -  I don't get any crud 
(or at least, not enough to mention.)  dee

On 26 Feb 2010, at 20:50, Pat wrote:

> 
> My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing, 
> then turns off totally when it's finished.  The red light stays on to 
> indicate it has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too 
> during brewing.)  Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more.  I keep it in the 
> dining room, so don't look at it often.  It leaves quite a bit of crud on the 
> bottom of my jars.  The CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5.  The 
> worst thing about the machine is that it's hard sometimes to get the 
> electrodes straight and parallel when I'm putting the clips on.  It eats them 
> up, too, sometimes.  I'm on the third set in four years and I don't make it 
> very often.
> 
> My daughter loves her Silver Puppy.  My Colloid Master said to not brew in 
> the light, though, so I was wondering about the warming light with the Silver 
> Puppy.  Does light during brewing make a difference?
> 
> Pat
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Sweeteners , where to get Agave

[sol]

At 06:18 PM 2/27/2010, you wrote:

Sorry Lois,
I live in Las Vegas, and Trader Joe's is a great store in the 
southwest part of the country.


I live in the middle of nowhere and the local grocery store chain 
(Kroger) carries agave syrup. So it might be worth checking a regular grocery.

sol


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Re: CS>Sweeteners , where to get Agave

[Beth Harrison]

I don't often have much to contribute, but can offer a couple of places:

http://emeraldforestxylitol.com/

For Agave nectar:
http://www.somethingbetternaturalfoods.com/index.html   I get it by the gallon, 
for $28
I also use Sucanat in baking.

Beth H
  - Original Message - 

  Also, try Whole Foods, or any other halfway decent sized health food store. 
If all else fails, 
  
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/search/en/query.jsp?q=agave&intsource2=main&tab_selection=vitamins&x=22&y=12

Re: CS>Sweeteners , where to get Agave

[paul catania]

Sorry Lois,
I live in Las Vegas, and Trader Joe's is a great store in the southwest part of 
the country. I am originally from New York, and I know that they have stores in 
New Jersey and also, I believe, on Long Island.
http://traderjoes.findlocation.com/results.aspx?pagenbr=0&resultsperpage=10&search_param=r50&city=newyork&state=NY&page=Default

Also, try Whole Foods, or any other halfway decent sized health food store. If 
all else fails, 
http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/search/en/query.jsp?q=agave&intsource2=main&tab_selection=vitamins&x=22&y=12

Hope this helps Lois,
Paul

  - Original Message - 
  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 5:00 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Sweeteners , where to get Agave


  In a message dated 2/27/2010 6:41:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
squigg...@embarqmail.com writes:
Try Trader Joe's
  Never heard of Trader Joe's--Did a search--- no Trader Joe's around here in 
upstate NY. Lois

Re: CS>Sweeteners , where to get Agave

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 2/27/2010 6:41:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
squigg...@embarqmail.com writes:

Try Trader Joe's



Never heard of Trader Joe's--Did a search--- no Trader Joe's  around here 
in upstate NY. Lois

Re: CS>Sweeteners , where to get XYLITOL

[sol]

At 02:16 PM 2/27/2010, you wrote:
I've tried a few of the alternative natural sweeteners 
myself.  Here's my take.


Xylitol is great, but you must take a few weeks to build up your GI 
tolerance for it.  It's not something you can start eating a lot of 
right away without GI issues possibly cropping up.  You start at a 
few teaspoons per day in something you like to sweeten, and build up 
from there.  Xylitol is probably the best crystalized sugar 
alternative I've tasted.


What on earth are you sweetening that you would use several teaspoons 
a day? Just curious. I just don't use that much of any sweetener. 
Even 1/4 tsp of Xylitol did a number on my GI. But then as I said, 
I'm ultra sensitive to all sugar alcohols for decades.

I do agree Xylitol tastes best of all, but I just can't use it.
sol


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Re: CS>Question

[cking001]

Tell them No, they taste different...

Chuck
I put instant coffee in a microwave once
... and almost went back in time.


On 2/27/2010 11:20:05 AM, Donna (dscroggs44...@gmail.com) wrote:
> Some people say taking colloidal silver is like taking Arsenic. What do
> you say to people like that?
> Donna ACS
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Re: CS>Sweeteners , where to get Agave

[paul catania]

Try Trader Joe's


  - Original Message - 
  From: zzekel...@aol.com 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 3:37 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Sweeteners , where to get Agave


  In a message dated 2/27/2010 4:17:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
kenancy2...@yahoo.com writes:
Of all the alternatives to sugar, Xylitol and esp. Agave are the best ones, 
bar none.

-Ken Bagwell



  Just did a search for a place to get Agave...Loads of pages !!! Does anyone 
know where the best place to get it is ??  I have never heard of it 
before...Sounds interesting.. Thanks, Lois

Re: CS>Sweeteners , where to get Agave

[ZZekelink]

 
In a message dated 2/27/2010 4:17:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
kenancy2...@yahoo.com writes:

Of all the alternatives to sugar, Xylitol and esp. Agave are the best  
ones, bar none.

-Ken Bagwell






Just did a search for a place to get Agave...Loads of pages  !!! Does 
anyone know where the best place to get it is ??  I have never  heard of it 
before...Sounds interesting.. Thanks,  Lois

Re: CS>Question

[Deborah Gerard]

Tell them to do their own thinking and research before they talk,
Debbie





From: Donna 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 11:20:05 AM
Subject: CS>Question

Some people say taking colloidal silver is like taking Arsenic. What do you say 
to people like that?
Donna ACS


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Re: CS>Sweeteners , where to get XYLITOL

[Ken & Nancy Bagwell]

I've tried a few of the alternative natural sweeteners myself.  Here's my take.

Xylitol is great, but you must take a few weeks to build up your GI tolerance 
for it.  It's not something you can start eating a lot of right away without GI 
issues possibly cropping up.  You start at a few teaspoons per day in something 
you like to sweeten, and build up from there.  Xylitol is probably the best 
crystalized sugar alternative I've tasted.  Better than Stevia and no funny 
taste like Erythritol.  It truly does look and taste like sugar, with a slight 
coolness to it (it's like it was in the refrigerator).

Stevias I've tried are herby. Not like sugar.

Agave nectar tastes just like light brown sugar syrup, no funny taste, and 
totally natural.  I would say Agave is the best natural sweetener I've ever 
tried, although I haven't found a crytalized version (like white sugar) yet.

Of all the alternatives to sugar, Xylitol and esp. Agave are the best ones, bar 
none.

-Ken Bagwell





From: sol 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 12:04:21 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Sweeteners , where to  get XYLITOL


> 
> 
> Tel Tofflemire wrote:
>>  In Cooking Xylitol is one to one in a recipe that calls for sugar, and it 
>> tastes just like real sugar (without the fat left on your bones.)
Unfortunately ALL sugar alcohols cause GI adventures in many people. The only 
exception seems to be erythritol.
I can do a little erythritol, but do not tolerate even tiny amounts of any 
other sugar alcohol.
sol 

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CS>Tom--the MMS list

[Renee]

Here's the address for the MMS list.  They'll be SO happy you've joined. 
:-)

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/miracle_mineral_supplement/

Re: CS>Question

[Ken & Nancy Bagwell]

Donna, those would be really ignorant people.  Really ignorant.

-Ken Bagwell






From: Donna 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 8:20:05 AM
Subject: CS>Question

Some people say taking colloidal silver is like taking Arsenic. What do you say 
to people like that?
Donna ACS


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Re: CS>Buffered MMS question for Tom

[poast]

Hello Renee,

I would love to join up and chat with the people on the other list.  How do I 
find it?

Birds pick the galvanizing off of the wire in their cages and poison 
themselves.  Adding some sodium chlorite to their drinking water chelates the 
metals out of their system and they no longer suffer damage from chewing on 
their cages.  

I advocate putting small amounts of sodium chlorite in pets drinking water.  It 
will keep biofilm from forming, keeps the pets teeth clean, and can have 
remarkable restorative effects at just slightly higher concentrations.

Chlorous acid is actually a well kept industry secret.  Everyone, including the 
EPA and FDA, jump up and down about chlorine dioxide and only pay lip service 
to chlorous acid in passing.  There are some aspects of food processing where 
efforts are made to minimize the production of chlorine dioxide upon 
activation.  It is considered a waste product.  

You have to keep in mind that different jobs require different tools.  Under 
certain conditions chlorine dioxide is the best technology to use.  Under other 
conditions acidified sodium chlorite (including chlorous acid) works better.  
The challenge is knowing which tool to use.

Tom


- Original Message - 
From: Renee 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2010 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Buffered MMS question for Tom


Great info, as usual, Tom.  Thanks.  I know there are several on the MMS list 
that will appreciate your specific measurements on this, and your conclusions.

Re: CS>Question

[sol]

At 09:20 AM 2/27/2010, you wrote:
Some people say taking colloidal silver is like taking Arsenic. What 
do you say to people like that?



I can't say anything, too busy ROTFL.
sol 



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CS>Buffered MMS answer from Tom

[Renee]

Oh Tom, this is the answer I already sent the MMS list, but thought they'd
want your take on the questions, too.

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
 
I'll send this on to Tom.  But it would seem to me that if the MSM is
negating the chlorine dioxide, then naturally Roy would be able to take all
he wanted of AMMS, because it would all be neutralized.
 
And Tom has already said he doesn't know why Roy is getting benefits, unless
it is because there is some free MSM involved (and MSM, to a sulfur
deficient body, could do wonders) and that's doing it, or if it's placebo. 
  there's probably no way to say for sure.  
 
But, I'll send this on and see what happens. :-)
 
Samala,
Renee
 

CS>Buffered MMS answer from Tom

[Renee]

I passed your info on and this came back, Tom.  

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
 
Nice that some tests have been conducted by Tom to know the truth.After
going thro your posting,I have a few questions.
 
1."It looks like MSM neutralizes about 92 - 100% of the free chlorine
dioxide in the MMS-Lite mixture when you add chlorine dioxide to the
solution."

Roy also confirms that  ingesting activated MMS-LITE is very comfortable,
there is no smell of Chlorine dioxide. My question is whether chlorine
dioxide has reacted with MSM and destroyed it(Oxidized it) or it is simply
physically absorbed and bound by MSM, (which might defy laboratory test for
free Chlorine Dioxide), resulting in both existing intact. 

2.MSM is known for its carrier for nutrients, is it not that it is acting as
carrier for Chlorine dioxide of Chlorous acid too.
 
3."I put 4 ml of 5% sodium chlorite in a glass and activated it with 4 ml of
6% hydrochloric acid.  I then added this to the 1 liter of water that had
1000 mg MSM dissolved in it.  When I measured the free chlorine dioxide it
was 10 PPM.  After waiting 4 hours the concentration of chlorine dioxide
remained at about 10 PPM, so that would indicate that all of the
anti-oxidant capability of the MSM could have been used up."
 
Does it not mean that the entire Chlorine Dioxide has been absorbed in
1000mg MSM except 10PPM which is remaining intact even after 4 hours.

4. Is there any way to test MSM so that we can check that it has got
oxidized or not, by Chlorine dioxide.
 
Roy seems to have consumed as high as  80-120 drops of MMS1 as LITE in a day
without any painful reactions, which was impossible with MMS1.
He seems to have taken  MSM separately for considerable time but got only a
limited positive results.Only after this MMS-MSM combo, his ailments started
disappearing.Does it not suggest that this combination MMS-MSM somehow is
doing the trick inside his biological system?
 

Re: CS>Sweeteners , where to get XYLITOL

[sol]

Tel Tofflemire wrote:
 In Cooking Xylitol is one to one in a recipe that calls for 
sugar, and it tastes just like real sugar (without the fat left on 
your bones.)
Unfortunately ALL sugar alcohols cause GI adventures in many people. 
The only exception seems to be erythritol.
I can do a little erythritol, but do not tolerate even tiny amounts 
of any other sugar alcohol.
sol 



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Re: CS>Sweeteners , where to get XYLITOL

[Annie B Smythe]

Swanson has it.

Annie

Control your destiny or somebody else will.~Jack Welsh


Tel Tofflemire wrote:


Go to http://www.emeraldforestsugar.com
 Xylitol is a sweetener made from biomass,  From a company called 
Emerald Forrest , I have used it for many years, it is used by millions 
of Diabetics successfully. I used to have  to buy it in Sweden , but a 
few years ago they put a plant in Colorado. 
Xylitol  from this plant is all natural and made from Birch Bark.   It 
is very low in carbs and Calories. In Cooking Xylitol is one to one in a 
recipe that calls for sugar, and it tastes just like real sugar (without 
the fat left on your bones.) 


Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
Herbalist 
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com



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CS>Risk of Drugs

[Pat]

I'd heard that there was an increase in risk with Vioxx and then Bextra, but 
the risk seemed very slight.  I would have been willing to sign a release to be 
able to continue using it.  The issue was quality of life.  It's sometimes 
worth more risk to be able to have a decent life.  My orthopaedic surgeon said 
he thought the risk was very slight and said he'd given his Bextra samples to 
his mother when they took it off the market.

The same goes for hormones.  Continue a satisfying relationship with the hubby, 
keep him happy at home and enjoy the closeness  or possibly lose interest 
or ability.  Definitely worth a little added risk for much increased quality of 
life.

Pat




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Re: CS>Injections syringes inhaling

[Gayla Roberts]

You can buy syringes and needles at many farm supply stores. You may have to 
sign for them, but tell them they are for kittens or puppies. I buy syringes 
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CS>Sweeteners , where to get XYLITOL

[Tel Tofflemire]

Go to http://www.emeraldforestsugar.com
 Xylitolis a sweetener made from biomass,  From a company called Emerald 
Forrest, I have used it for many years, it is used by millions of Diabetics 
successfully. I used to have  to buy it in Sweden , but a few years ago they 
put a plant in Colorado. 
Xylitol  from this plant is all natural and made from Birch Bark.  It is very 
lowincarbs and Calories. In Cooking Xylitolis one to one in a recipe that calls 
for sugar, and it tastes just like real sugar (without the fat left on your 
bones.) 
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
Herbalist 
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com






  

Re: CS>Question

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Whoever said *that*?  I think if you drank four ounces of arsenic you wouldn't 
be around long enough to put the cup down!  You could drink thirty ounces of CS 
with nothing but good results.  Spot the difference?  dee


On 27 Feb 2010, at 16:20, Donna wrote:

> Some people say taking colloidal silver is like taking Arsenic. What do you 
> say to people like that?
> Donna ACS
> 
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Re: CS>(LL) Have you heard of this name change ?? Sweeteners.

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I *can* see most of that Ode, but I do think that if there is a possibility 
that a substance that is sold as harmless - or even beneficial - is *not* then 
people should have the knowledge given to them, so that they can make an 
informed choice.  After all, you or I could drink this with impunity, but there 
may be others who - if they had been given the information - may not have 
gotten sick if they had known that it could have had that effect.  For 
instance, the thousands of people who died from taking Vioxx - if they had been 
told that this was a possibility - would they have still taken it?  Some may 
'because the doctor said,' but some might not haveand they would still be 
alive today.  dee
 
On 27 Feb 2010, at 15:19, Ode Coyote wrote:

> 
> 
> The other side of that story is those looking for something easy to blame and 
> a following to make them feel important.
> The impossible solution is the easy fight..blaming what you can't control is 
> very safe but totally ineffective with no way to win, but every way to 
> continue the "good fight" and stick somebody up on a leader pedestal that 
> fears falling off and will say *anything* to stay up there.
> You will find propaganda on both sides of any issue.
> You just can't trust anyone to think for you, not on either side.
> 
> I asked biochemists that don't make sweeteners and they confirmed the info.  
> So what.
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Re: CS>Question

[Steve G]

Ask them for their substantiated documentation.  Point out that you and many 
others you know have taken colloidal silver for years.   



--- On Sat, 2/27/10, Donna  wrote:

From: Donna 
Subject: CS>Question
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, February 27, 2010, 11:20 AM

Some people say taking colloidal silver is like taking Arsenic. What do you say 
to people like that?
Donna ACS






  

Re: CS>Injections syringes inhaling

[polo]

New sterile syringes and needles can easily be had from online 
pet/livestock/vet supply houses.


Many states, you can buy them at feed stores and other livestock/farm supply 
houses like Orsclens.


If you make up your own stuff, one good safe guard is to run all solutions 
through syringe type micro filters at a .22 micron filter to remove 
particulates and bacteria. Asceptic condtions should be religously thrived 
for!


doug 



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Re: CS>Colloid Master??

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I have a Silver Puppy and I *always* brew in the light and I always get clear 
CS!  The Colloid Master sounds a bit complicated for me -  I don't get any crud 
(or at least, not enough to mention.)  dee
 
On 26 Feb 2010, at 20:50, Pat wrote:

> 
> My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing, 
> then turns off totally when it's finished.  The red light stays on to 
> indicate it has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too 
> during brewing.)  Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more.  I keep it in the 
> dining room, so don't look at it often.  It leaves quite a bit of crud on the 
> bottom of my jars.  The CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5.  The 
> worst thing about the machine is that it's hard sometimes to get the 
> electrodes straight and parallel when I'm putting the clips on.  It eats them 
> up, too, sometimes.  I'm on the third set in four years and I don't make it 
> very often.
> 
> My daughter loves her Silver Puppy.  My Colloid Master said to not brew in 
> the light, though, so I was wondering about the warming light with the Silver 
> Puppy.  Does light during brewing make a difference?
> 
> Pat
> 
> 
> 


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Re: CS>your thoughts re dementia

[Ode Coyote]

  The most sensible thing I've heard was to start chelation therapy for 
any neurological challenge ASAP.
 The Po-Mans chelation starts with Selenium, Vit E and lots of 
Cilantro...and goes into many hours with Google for the info BEHIND all the 
sales speak.


Ode


At 12:52 PM 2/26/2010 -0800, you wrote:

Hi everyone,

My uncle has recently been diagnosed by his doctor as having 
Frontotemporal Dementia (FTD).  As usual, the doctors have no idea why he 
has it, and have no real therapies or cures for it.  The most they can do 
is try to treat some of the early symptoms.  He is only 56.


Apparently, this is a rare form of dementia, and is under the "umbrella" 
of Alzheimers type diseases (with some differences).  One of the main 
physical symptoms is a shrinking or atrophy of the front temporal lobe of 
the brain.  Manifestations include a level of lethargy, depression, and 
difficulty with language.  Memory, right now, is not so much an issue.


Right now, I am making sure that my uncle does indeed have this problem by 
asking question of the doctors (the tests he had ,etc).  I'm also looking 
into issues that can mimic the disease, although this will be difficult 
because this disease is rare.


Financially speaking, my uncle has always been on the poor side, and his 
home is an old run down place in them middle of San Francisco's lower 
downtown.  Because of this, I have considered whether it might be possible 
he has lead poisoning, with the old water piping and car traffic right 
outside.  In addition, his mother recently died, and she too suffered with 
a more general form of dementia.  It makes me wonder if it is something is 
happening in the house that is affecting their bodies.


I want to ask if any of you have dealt with dementia issues in your family 
and how you dealt with it, or if you have any ideas on what else might be 
misdiagnosed as dementia.


Best regards,
-Ken Bagwell



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Re: CS>(LL) Have you heard of this name change ?? Sweeteners.

[Ode Coyote]

 The other side of that story is those looking for something easy to blame 
and a following to make them feel important.
The impossible solution is the easy fight..blaming what you can't control 
is very safe but totally ineffective with no way to win, but every way to 
continue the "good fight" and stick somebody up on a leader pedestal that 
fears falling off and will say *anything* to stay up there.

You will find propaganda on both sides of any issue.
You just can't trust anyone to think for you, not on either side.

 I asked biochemists that don't make sweeteners and they confirmed the 
info.  So what.


 What is true doesn't matter.
 If the consumer avoids Apsertame for any reason, true or not. It WILL NOT 
BE SOLD.
Regardless of what is true, I am making my contribution to the elimination 
of crappy tasting sweeteners with no dispute possible.


The balance of value in any "belief"  belongs to each individual.

Here's the thang:
The instant that some else is held responsible for anothers choices, both 
their choices AND yours will become limited in self defense.
If I am required to clean up after you and you after me, I will naturally 
try to keep you from making a mess...and vice versa.
"What" constitutes a mess is then a personal opinion made public and the 
public can never agree on anything and will stuff EVERYONE into a box where 
no one can do anything.
To control another is like begging to become a slave.  There are then no 
"others", they are all YOU, out of control...and "begging for it".


Universal Health Care is the absolute WORST thing we could possibly do to 
our own personal freedom.
Buying "collision" insurance is quite bad enough to make people not care 
how they drive.
If a knife blade sticking out of a steering column were standard equipment, 
the accident rate would go to near zero. [and one per customer]


 The Constitution outlines the greatest of wisdoms:  You are free to shoot 
yourself in the foot, but not to make me dance.

 Anything else is a fast track to a pool of quicksand for all concerned.
 The unwinnable fight where both winners and losers are losers.

The label on the box is plenty enough for YOU to make YOUR choice.
As for me, one bite or swig spit out does the job of making that my last 
purchase.
Now, I LIKE Corn Syrup and if it kills me, I'll die fat and happy...but, I 
drink one Coke a day, if that, and I'll probably survive that 
regardless...only to fall off my tractor and get myself bush hogged.
In that case, the dogs can have the pieces of sweet meat and you are not 
required to even gather them up.


 Back in the old days, the gun fighter stuffed dollars into an empty 
chamber, one, to not shoot off his toes and two, to pay the undertaker if 
he went toes up.

 What happened to that?

Ode


At 01:26 PM 2/26/2010 +, you wrote:
Makes sense so farbutwhat if the studies were done by people who 
had an agenda in pronouncing it safe?  This has been done many times i.e 
the cigarette companies spring to mind here plus vaccine and statin 
manufacturers.  I still cannot believe that so many people have condemned 
this substance without cause, and I for one won't be drinking anything 
with it in--plus, as you say--it tastes like crap too!  dee


On 26 Feb 2010, at 09:59, Ode Coyote wrote:

>
>
>  Yup..and they are all true if you ignore context and 
proportion...like..you know..the "facts" without all the varnish.

>
> Formaldehyde is also a natural metabolite of many "healthy" foods.
> Different people metabolize things in different proportions.
> Methanol and formaldehyde is what makes some drunks skin stink and have 
hangovers...and some don't.

>
> It's like that bad sugar thing with Corn Syrup and glucose...they ALL 
metabolize into Glucose which you can't live without, so why is any sugar 
any different than any other?
> Isn't the problem simply to much sugar in conjunction with problems in 
handing it?

>


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Re: CS>Injections syringes inhaling

[Ode Coyote]

At 10:42 AM 2/26/2010 -0500, you wrote:
Do you go to a doctor for an injection or do you mangage to get some 
syringes somehow? Â and where is it best to inject.


##  You do some studying on IV drip or find someone that knows.
If a junkie can get a syringe, so can you and if you can get or make 
a  needle, you can rig up a bag.
It's doubtful you'll find a doctor that will help youhe has to defend 
his license.




and for inhaling, is a couple of sprays up each nostril sufficient?


##   Use your head, study the nature of the conditions and elements and 
experiment.
A sniffer in the nose won't likely even reach the lungs...try it and you'll 
know why.



and how often do you apply is topiically and do you cover by a bandaid? Â 
Do you saturate a regular bandaid or buy specially made CS ones.


##  The closer and longer the contact, the better it works.
 Dry CS does nothing much.
 Act accordingly.
 A silver bandaid such as "Curad Silver" makes CS on site using aluminum 
and silver fabrics as a silver ion generator with "battery effect"




Thanks, Ode

On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Ode Coyote 
<odecoy...@windstream.net> wrote:



 Inhalation is the next best thing to injection...but no path is the 
wrong one [ use em all? ]


Ode




At 06:09 PM 2/17/2010 -0500, you wrote:
Well, John, this specific question applies to taking it orally to boost my 
immune system and hopefully help in my recovery from Lyme Disease.


Susan, thank you so much for your suggestions. Ā


do you both make your own?

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Rainie Cole 
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wrote:

I know this is a basic question, but how is it best to take silver?

thanks so much.

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Re: CS>Buffered MMS question for Tom

[Renee]

Great info, as usual, Tom.  Thanks.  I know there are several on the MMS
list that will appreciate your specific measurements on this, and your
conclusions.

I DO believe that belief has much to do with healing.  And somehow I just
had my doubts that it was the 'buffered MMS' that was doing the job.  I felt
that it would either be the MSM itself constantly in his system, or placebo,
that was helping him.  On the other hand, since I'm no chemist and therefor
have no idea what was left in the solution he made, it could have been that
he discovered something great--which is why I continued to ask questions. 
We don't learn if we don't ask.  But mixing an antioxidant with an oxidant
and expecting even better results together than singly just didn't make
sense to me.

I will say that there are 2 people on the list that have asked me to ask you
if you'd care to join the MMS list.  :-)  I have not done so as I figured
you are busy and if you go there you will be swamped with questions as 'the
expert'.  I know that a few of the people will have chemical questions to
ask, but I also know that there will be many newbie questions that would be
asked of you.  So--if you want to join I'll gladly give you the list link,
and if you decline to join I totally understand why. :-)

On the MMS list one person told us how to change our 28% MMS to your more
helpful 5% as there are some folks really taking your information to heart. 
I do think that MMS is very healing if handled correctly, so it's been
wonderful to have your expertise on this.  

I'm thinking now that unactivated MMS in drinking water is the best way to
go.  I remember a lady from the original list that raised pigeons said one
of the products for their health was, basically, a 5% unactivated MMS
solution to be put into their drinking water.  I remembered that the other
day.  She said she saved quite a few bird lives that way.  So I've been
thinking of adding it to my dogs and cats drinking water, rather than giving
them a few drops (1 only for cats) of AMMS in their morning treat.  

That AMMS has worked good for them, but because of it's strength and
potential to make them feel bad I have only done it on an as needed basis. 
I got rid of 2 lumps in 2 cats doing this.  Now I feel that the straight MMS
in water would be even better.  Plus maybe easier on them, while still doing
its job.

So you really feel it's the chloris acid that does a better job rather than
chlorine dioxide?  and the chloris acid comes from straight sodium chlorite
liquid converting in the body naturally?  Or do you still think that most of
the job is done by the small amount of chlorine dioxide that gets into the
body with the AMMS, or even with the natural conversion of plain MMS in the
body?  I guess I'm still not sure on your stance on that.

Samala,
Renee

---Original Message---
 
 
I finally got around to picking up some MSM and running some tests.
 

Re: CS>Colloid Master-- Advice

[Tel Tofflemire]

Hey you guys with the Colloid Master having trouble need to call Pearl or 
Steve, At http://www.wishgranted.com 

 I never did make a Quart at a time, I started with a gallon glass large mouth 
jar,
(4 quarts)  similar to an Ice tea jar. Cut Slots in the lid to hang silver 
rods,strips or coins, & a hole to put an air mixer hose. In the 12 years I only 
have bought two bubblers,(with air filters and control valve on the hose ) they 
both still work well. I have had my Colloid Master for over 12 years, and never 
one problem with it, it takes over night to make a gallon with silver strips,or 
2  one ounce Canadian $5.00 silver maple leaf coins,  that are now sold for 
aprox $24.00 each. PS Make sure your jar is clean, Wipe it out with a coffee 
filter, {no lint} cheaper than paper towels too. Also make sure your power 
switch is on normal (up) not the Fast one (down) Call the mgf at web site above 
They will walk you through it.
If you can't make perfect Colloidal Silver with a colloid master your doing 
something wrong? Or there is something wrong with the unit, They would replace 
it if there is.
 Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.
http://www.quailwoodherbal.com








From: MaryAnn Helland 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 2:29:23 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloid Master??


That's really odd, Pat.  Mine rarely takes more than 5 or 6 hours.  My CS is 
always clear, and I never have any crud on the bottom of my jars.  I don't 
worry a bit about the electrodes being straight and parrallel -- more that 
they're not touching.  Do you use a quart Mason jar?  You only have to hook the 
electrodes over the lip of the jar.  And I use a pair of electrodes about a 
year too -- but I make CS several to many times a week.  That crud on the 
bottom of your jar is the remains of the electrodes that are being eaten up.  I 
brew mine in the kitchen -- but I drape a kitchen towel over the jar, as much 
to keep the electrodes in place on opposite sides of the brewing jar as to keep 
the water clean.  I stopped worrying about light a long time ago.
MA

 




 From: Pat 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 2:50:57 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloid Master??


My Colloid Master AC has a green light that goes on and off while brewing, then 
turns off totally when it's finished.  The red light stays on to indicate it 
has power plugged in (although I think it goes on and off, too during brewing.) 
 Sometimes it takes 12 hours or more.  I keep it in the dining room, so don't 
look at it often.  It leaves quite a bit of crud on the bottom of my jars.  The 
CS is clear as long as I don't go above 5.5.  The worst thing about the machine 
is that it's hard sometimes to get the electrodes straight and parallel when 
I'm putting the clips on.  It eats them up, too, sometimes.  I'm on the third 
set in four years and I don't make it very often.

My daughter loves her Silver Puppy.  My Colloid Master said to not brew in the 
light, though, so I was wondering about the warming light with the Silver 
Puppy.  Does light during brewing make a difference?

Pat




From: Golden Aldi 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, February 26, 2010 2:49:34 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloid Master??

My setting is at about 5.5 or 6 to get a 10 ppm. I can't tell if it shuts 
itself off or not, but I'm hoping it does, and its the other light, the red 
one, that doesn't go on when it stops, which it should, according to the 
instructions that came with the generator. If the generator does go off, then 
maybe completely, which would explain why the red light does not go on. *grin*

Aldi


O


  


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