CSTesting pH?
If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I need to use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or paper strips...in, out, job done so to speak? N. _ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/
Re: CSTesting pH?
It seems to me that if you do buffer a solution, you are using the paper/meter to test the PH altering effect of the buffer and would have to test the solution both before and after buffering it. Ode At 05:34 PM 7/2/2010 +1030, you wrote: If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I need to use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or paper strips...in, out, job done so to speak? N. -- Find it on Domain.com.au Need a new place to live? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTesting pH?
Don't know if you've misunderstood the question Ode?
Most articles I read about pH testing there is mention of a buffer solution,
not being chemistry minded, and my understanding in these matters is minimal
{whilst I continue my search for relevant material} therefore I just wanted to
know if a meter/paper could be used *as is* without the necessity for that
buffer solution.
It seems to me that the reason buffer solutions are used is if one wishes to
*change* the acidity or alkalinity of that solution which is being tested as a
means of 'compensation'...I don't want to *change* or *compensate* for
anything...just want to know if I can dip the paper/meter in the water and use
that pH reading as a reference of pH of that solution.
Do you follow what I'm saying?
PH will be different at cessation of production to what it will be after
suitable time frame has elapsed...to a point whereby I suppose the pH reaches a
point of 'stabilization?'...Yes/No? Not dissimilar to the silver solution time
frame for stabilization.
N.
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 05:59:00 -0400
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Subject: Re: CSTesting pH?
It seems to me that if you do buffer a solution, you are using the
paper/meter to test the PH altering effect of the buffer and would have to
test the solution both before and after buffering it.
Ode
At 05:34 PM 7/2/2010 +1030, you wrote:
If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I need
to use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or paper
strips...in, out, job done so to speak?
N.
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RE: CSUSDA and Codex Alimentarius
Some excerpts from: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/salud_censoredhealthsecrets.htm Dr. Wright: We're gaining ground, and so what's being tried is a stealth attack, and you'll read about that if you care to in previous editions of my newsletter. Unfortunately, the folks that wrote our Constitution here in the United States put a little clause in there that has allowed the last two or three administrations, that is several administrations, to do things to us through the back door without the approval of Congress. It says somewhere in the Constitution (and I'm serious, go read it, I just about fell over when I read it) that if we enter into a treaty, then that treaty shall override our United States Constitution. Were you aware of that? Mike: I was not. Dr. Wright: It is in there. I kid you not. Mike: So how do they use this to suppress nutritional medicine? Dr. Wright: Real easy! You know that thing called the World Trade Organization? Well, the WTO apparently gets to make so-called trade rules, and if the various countries don't pay attention to them they get to do this thing called sanctions. Remember when good-old George Bush put up the steel tariffs, and all the steel industry loved it? But the WTO ruled against it and-guess what? The WTO is over in Europe, but George Bush had to withdraw the tariffs? And I'm thinking, excuse me? The president of the United States has to bow down to the WTO? Not that I think that the presidency of Dr. Wright: We're gaining ground, and so what's being tried is a stealth attack, and you'll read about that if you care to in previous editions of my newsletter. Unfortunately, the folks that wrote our Constitution here in the United States put a little clause in there that has allowed the last two or three administrations, that is several administrations, to do things to us through the back door without the approval of Congress. It says somewhere in the Constitution (and I'm serious, go read it, I just about fell over when I read it) that if we enter into a treaty, then that treaty shall override our United States Constitution. Were you aware of that? Mike: I was not. Dr. Wright: It is in there. I kid you not. Mike: So how do they use this to suppress nutritional medicine? Dr. Wright: Real easy! You know that thing called the World Trade Organization? Well, the WTO apparently gets to make so-called trade rules, and if the various countries don't pay attention to them they get to do this thing called sanctions. Remember when good-old George Bush put up the steel tariffs, and all the steel industry loved it? But the WTO ruled against it and-guess what? The WTO is over in Europe, but George Bush had to withdraw the tariffs? And I'm thinking, excuse me? The president of the United States has to bow down to the WTO? Not that I think that the presidency of Alright, well, as you know, there's this outfit over in Europe called Codex Alimentarius or whatever it's called, and a lot of the folks who attend their meetings are from the big European pharmaceutical cartel, which is just about the same as the American patent medicine cartel these days. And they put together this directive which is now called the European Food Supplements Directive, and the silly thing is scheduled to go into effect unless it's overturned in the European Court-and what that would do is to severely restrict the number and type of vitamins and minerals and metabolites (such as coenzyme Q10 and L-carnitine and all that) that would be available. Oh, by the way, it would apply over here! This is the European Food Supplements Directive, and it would be enforced by the WTO. You see, it's a proposed rule to be enforced by the WTO, and if the WTO gets to enforce it, then if we don't pay any attention to it, if they elect to do so (which they might or might not, you can never tell) they could put sanctions against us. Mike: So when this kicks in, the FDA is going to say well, we have to do this to comply with world trade rules. Dr. Wright: Well, they might and they might not. Now one real good lawyer I know says that's not likely to happen, and another real good lawyer I know says that you'd better believe they'll do it. So you can't really tell what they'll do. I'm guessing that they will because they've been wanting to do that all along. Mike: So you're informing readers of this and trying to call people to action on this issue, right? Dr. Wright: Absolutely. There's a group in England called the Alliance for Natural Health, that stumped up some money and got a court case together, in Europe of course, against this European Food Supplements directive, and wonder of wonders, they won! They won in the British high court. The trouble is that the British have given up their sovereignty too, and the British high court is now subordinate to the European high court. So of course it was appealed to the European high court. And so what we put in the newsletter was, here's the name of the
Re: CSUSDA and Codex Alimentarius
I messed up my previous cut and paste so here is a revised version that should be correct. In spite of Annie's posts on the Codex Alimentarius I kinda thought What's that to me?. But apparently it may be imposed on us by the WTO and our access to natural supplements could be severely restricted. Thanks for the warning Annie. - Steve N Some excerpts from: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/salud/salud_censoredhealthsecrets.htm Dr. Wright: We're gaining ground, and so what's being tried is a stealth attack, and you'll read about that if you care to in previous editions of my newsletter. Unfortunately, the folks that wrote our Constitution here in the United States put a little clause in there that has allowed the last two or three administrations, that is several administrations, to do things to us through the back door without the approval of Congress. It says somewhere in the Constitution (and I'm serious, go read it, I just about fell over when I read it) that if we enter into a treaty, then that treaty shall override our United States Constitution. Were you aware of that? Mike: I was not. Dr. Wright: It is in there. I kid you not. Mike: So how do they use this to suppress nutritional medicine? Dr. Wright: Real easy! You know that thing called the World Trade Organization? Well, the WTO apparently gets to make so-called trade rules, and if the various countries don't pay attention to them they get to do this thing called sanctions. Remember when good-old George Bush put up the steel tariffs, and all the steel industry loved it? But the WTO ruled against it and - guess what? The WTO is over in Europe, but George Bush had to withdraw the tariffs? And I'm thinking, excuse me? The president of the United States has to bow down to the WTO? Not that I think that the presidency of the United States has been run all that wonderfully well the last few years, but still. That was the case. Because they were threatening these sanctions which would have damaged the country economically. Alright, well, as you know, there's this outfit over in Europe called Codex Alimentarius or whatever it's called, and a lot of the folks who attend their meetings are from the big European pharmaceutical cartel, which is just about the same as the American patent medicine cartel these days. And they put together this directive which is now called the European Food Supplements Directive, and the silly thing is scheduled to go into effect unless it's overturned in the European Court - and what that would do is to severely restrict the number and type of vitamins and minerals and metabolites (such as coenzyme Q10 and L-carnitine and all that) that would be available. Oh, by the way, it would apply over here! This is the European Food Supplements Directive, and it would be enforced by the WTO. You see, it's a proposed rule to be enforced by the WTO, and if the WTO gets to enforce it, then if we don't pay any attention to it, if they elect to do so (which they might or might not, you can never tell) they could put sanctions against us. Mike: So when this kicks in, the FDA is going to say well, we have to do this to comply with world trade rules. Dr. Wright: Well, they might and they might not. Now one real good lawyer I know says that's not likely to happen, and another real good lawyer I know says that you'd better believe they'll do it. So you can't really tell what they'll do. I'm guessing that they will because they've been wanting to do that all along. Mike: So you're informing readers of this and trying to call people to action on this issue, right? Dr. Wright: Absolutely. There's a group in England called the Alliance for Natural Health, that stumped up some money and got a court case together, in Europe of course, against this European Food Supplements directive, and wonder of wonders, they won! They won in the British high court. The trouble is that the British have given up their sovereignty too, and the British high court is now subordinate to the European high court. So of course it was appealed to the European high court. And so what we put in the newsletter was, here's the name of the place, the Alliance for Natural Health, here's the address, send them money! Let's send our money to Europe and get it overturned over there before it comes over here. Mike: Because the pharmaceutical cartel on both continents would really like to see the whole world dependent on synthetic chemicals for treating health symptoms, right? Dr. Wright: Yes, they would. I like to call them patent medicines, because that's what they are. Now, just incidentally, a couple of things. You are more than welcome to download the article about that European Food Supplements Directive, from the newsletter site, and put that as an attachment on any place you have content on the web. ... Dr. Wright: Now here's the other little detail that may blow some of your listeners away. I happen to keep handy a copy of the
Re: CSTesting pH?
Neville Munn wrote: If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I need to use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or paper strips...in, out, job done so to speak? N. Find it on Domain.com.au Need a new place to live? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ Just test the water, do not buffer it or you will get a wrong answer. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSTesting pH?
Thank You kind Sir. N. Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:31:40 -0400 From: mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTesting pH? Neville Munn wrote: If I wanted to test pH of distilled water or my EIS/CS solutions do I need to use that 'buffer' solution or can I simply use a pH meter or paper strips...in, out, job done so to speak? N. Find it on Domain.com.au Need a new place to live? http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/ Just test the water, do not buffer it or you will get a wrong answer. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com _ Browse profiles for FREE! Meet local singles online. http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/
CSTesting pH?
I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2 drops in a measured amt of water. Harold
RE: CSTesting pH?
This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to take a measurement *as is*. I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply wanting to take a straight measurement of water or a solution. Why do you add the reagent Harold? Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing or decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a neutral pH are they not? I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything, just get a reading of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch. N. From: har...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTesting pH? Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700 I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2 drops in a measured amt of water. Harold _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/
RE: CSTesting pH?
Neville, The chemical Harold is adding is not a buffer, but simply an *indicator* that changes color over a range of pH. It's a similar thing to the stuff that's soaked into litmus paper. It should *not* change the pH of the sample, if it's properly designed and made. Buffers, as you say, are designed to adjust the pH to a particular value, and don't necessarily have anything to do with measuring the pH. The only way I can think they might is by measuring the amount needed to achieve that pH change you could possibly get some indication of the composition of the acid or alkaline chemistry of the sample. That's just a guess on my part, however. I don't have any experience with such systems. Be well, Mike D. This is why I asked if a buffer is *necessary*, I don't want to change anything, and I don't want to 'neutralise' anything, I just want to take a measurement *as is*. I'm content now, knowing that a buffer is not a requirement if simply wanting to take a straight measurement of water or a solution. Why do you add the reagent Harold? Correct me if I'm wrong, but buffers are for the purpose of increasing or decreasing acidity/alkalinity as a compensatory measure to create a neutral pH are they not? I don't wish to alter or neutralise anything, just get a reading of pH of the water/solution as it is from scratch. N. From: har...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSTesting pH? Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 16:26:24 -0700 I test my Distilled water using an aquarium kit.It uses a blue reagent,2 drops in a measured amt of water. Harold _ If It Exists, You'll Find it on SEEK. Australia's #1 job site http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/ [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
