Re: CSMold Fungus

2010-08-21 Thread James McCourt, Ph.D.
Anyone ever use cs approach to save the lungs?


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Re: CSSinuses - neti pot? remember the ear canal's

2010-08-21 Thread M. G. Devour
Dear Jaxi,

 just a few drops right into the ear?

Enough to fill the ear canal, 3% peroxide, 20 minutes per side or until 
it stops bubbling...

Works like a charm! grin

Thanks to Brooks Bradley for bringing that little trick to our 
attention!

Mike D.

 
 Jaxi
 
 On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.comwrote:
 
 
  When I have anykind of sinus issue's I put some H202 in my ear's as well
  and that clear's up my nasal congestion,
  welcome to the group Krissty,
  Debbie :)
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  *From:* Krisstyna Holmquist dalaichic...@gmail.com
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  *Sent:* Fri, August 20, 2010 4:55:01 PM
  *Subject:* Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?
 
  I do add the CS to the salt solution. Particularly when I think there's any
  sort of infection. Usually with just one use it knocks out the infection.
 
  Also, thanks for the welcome Mike. This site has taught so much about CS
  and many other things. I've known CS was a great thing since the first time
  I used it, but I never knew how many other things it could be used for
  before joining here. So thank you to all for all your great info. I'll be
  sure to add my two cents when I can!
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: CSMold Fungus

2010-08-21 Thread M. G. Devour
Dear James,

You write:
 Anyone ever use cs approach to save the lungs?

What sort of condition are you asking about, James? Is it under a 
doctor's care? What have they diagnosed?

There have been enough anecdotal reports of beneficial effects on some 
serious pulmonary insults to suggest it's worth looking into CS' 
benefits for such things, but the kind of full-up clinical trials 
needed to certify such treatments haven't been done, to my knowledge.

If it's anything serious enough to require saving the lungs be sure 
to coordinate your activities with the medical people.

Let us know more details and we'll see what folks have to share?

Peace,

Mike D.

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Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

2010-08-21 Thread Ode Coyote



  I've used CS [EIS] anywhere you can imagine other than in a needle and 
sometimes with DMSO and/or peroxide.

I've never even seen a netti pot
Ode

At 12:05 PM 8/20/2010 -0500, you wrote:

No one?

On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 1:35 PM, jaxi 
mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.comjaxi.sch...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone use EIS in a neti pot for sinuses?  Straight EIS?  EIS with a 
little DMSO?  Other combo?


I know some use it in a nasal mister/sprayer - just thinking a neti pot 
would get the EIS to all of the sinus areas and flood all surfaces - 
hopefully knocking out any nasties in the process.


Also wondered if it might help with some protection from airborn allergens.

Thoughts? Reactions?  Just wondering what folks think and/or have tried.

Jaxi




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Re:CSpederson's silver

2010-08-21 Thread Ode Coyote



 How do we know that?
I don't recall silver oxides and tummies even having been discussed over 
all these years.


Ode


At 06:21 AM 8/20/2010 -0500, you wrote:

One last point. Stomach acid will convert the silver oxide coating on 
the  silver particles to either metallic silver or silver chloride. So 
Guardian Silver  pre-oxidizing their silver particles provides no benefit 
over any other colloidal silver when taken internally.


 - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Norton, Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:16 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSpederson's silver


Guardian Silver consists of primarily silver particles. All silver 
particles work by releasing silver ions and it is the silver ions that are 
anti-microbial. Silver ions are not released from pure silver. In vivo, 
silver particles form silver oxide on its surface and it is the silver 
oxide that releases silver ions and provide the anti-microbial activity. 
Guardian Silver claims to pre-oxidize their silver particles
by adding hydrogen peroxide to their CS when making it. That is the sum 
total of the uniqueness of their CS. There may be some benefit to

pre-oxidizing the silver particles vs waiting for it to happen in vivo.















Guardian Silver consists of primarily silver particles. All silver
particles work by releasing silver ions and it is the silver ions that
are anti-microbial. Silver ions are not released from pure silver. In
vivo, silver particles form silver oxide on its surface and it is the
silver oxide that releases silver ions and provide the anti-microbial
activity. Guardian Silver claims to pre-oxidize their silver particles
by adding hydrogen peroxide to their CS when making it. That is the sum
total of the uniqueness of their CS. There may be some benefit to
pre-oxidizing the silver particles vs waiting for it to happen in vivo.


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Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

2010-08-21 Thread Ode Coyote



  The silver ion and salt reaction takes some amount of time to complete.
Add salt, use *now*

Ode


At 03:55 PM 8/20/2010 -0500, you wrote:
I do add the CS to the salt solution. Particularly when I think there's 
any sort of infection. Usually with just one use it knocks out the infection.


Also, thanks for the welcome Mike. This site has taught so much about CS 
and many other things. I've known CS was a great thing since the first 
time I used it, but I never knew how many other things it could be used 
for before joining here. So thank you to all for all your great info. I'll 
be sure to add my two cents when I can!






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Re: CSMold Fungus

2010-08-21 Thread Ode Coyote



  I personally know of one that came completely back from a doctors death 
sentence from a lung infection they couldn't touch.
 Another by email stating that a decade old battle was DONE in 6 weeks of 
inhaling CS..out of a wheelchair and off the Oxy bottle after ten years of 
rolling around, to and from the hospital.


 There was another old fellow in TN, don't recall what his problem was, 
but seemed that new found energy handed him  this urge to re-paint his 
apartment every few days with an enthusiasm that had me thinking he might 
swallow is CS generator and plug HIMSELF into the wall.
 He liked to go to the emergency room every week..right on schedule... and 
dance for all his old friends.


Ode


At 10:59 PM 8/20/2010 -0700, you wrote:

Anyone ever use cs approach to save the lungs?


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Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V2010 #695

2010-08-21 Thread Ode Coyote



  Your access to MMS is as safe as your access to Sodium Chlorite.
What isn't safe is the profits of the middlemen you pay to re-label Sodium 
Chlorite as MMS.
Now, in pretty much the same situation as sellers of CS, they can still 
sell Sodium Chlorite as Sodium Chlorite.
..or you can go straight a chemical supply house, maybe even a hobby shop 
that sells project lab supplies.


Ode


At 05:52 PM 8/20/2010 -0400, you wrote:

Thanks Bob,

I put the recall email I received on the list to warn people that there 
maybe shutting off of access to MMS
around the corner and wanted to give a heads up.  It could just as well be 
a bad batch or something like

that problem.
I have used it with success too being careful not to overdo it at any one 
time.


Cheers, Pam




From: Bob Banever mailto:bbane...@earthlink.netbbane...@earthlink.net
Date: August 19, 2010 8:18:32 PM EDT
To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSMMS email received today


Pam,

   Unless there is something wrong with this particular lot or solution 
I think this recall is being done because the FDA has scared the company 
into doing this.  I have used MMS for the last two years on and off with 
no side effects whatsoever other than to rid myself of some cold and flu 
germs within two days.   Perhaps this particular lot is too strong or is 
contaminated I don't know, but MMS is and can be a lifesaver.


Bob
- Original Message - From: Pam Wanveer 
mailto:woods...@hers.comwoods...@hers.com

To: mailto:silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 6:31 PM
Subject: CSMMS email received today


Hi, I received this email today.  Has anyone gotten one of these and/ or 
have any

insight?  I guess this is off topic, sorry.
Thanks, Pam



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Re: CSSinuses - neti pot? remember the ear canal's

2010-08-21 Thread Kathy Tankersley
Whats H202?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 20, 2010 8:17 PM
  Subject: Re: CSSinuses - neti pot? remember the ear canal's




  When I have anykind of sinus issue's I put some H202 in my ear's as well and 
that clear's up my nasal congestion,
  welcome to the group Krissty,
  Debbie :)


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  From: Krisstyna Holmquist dalaichic...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 4:55:01 PM
  Subject: Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

  I do add the CS to the salt solution. Particularly when I think there's any 
sort of infection. Usually with just one use it knocks out the infection. 

  Also, thanks for the welcome Mike. This site has taught so much about CS and 
many other things. I've known CS was a great thing since the first time I used 
it, but I never knew how many other things it could be used for before joining 
here. So thank you to all for all your great info. I'll be sure to add my two 
cents when I can!








Re: CSMold Fungus

2010-08-21 Thread Martsmail53
I did , I was exposed to aspergillus plus 8 other bacteria  for years,  I 
was sick  14 month from car a/c systemso sick did not care is I  
diedlost ability to count and spell easy words..my lungs, I thought I was  
suffocating..I used ionic silver from one of Fred's generators in cpap  in 4 
night I was 70 % betterI found 8 month later a mold doctor who told me  
that 
was smartest thing I could have done. 
 
 
In a message dated 8/21/2010 1:00:35 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
dr...@earthlink.net writes:

Anyone  ever use cs approach to save the lungs?


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Re: CSSinuses - neti pot? remember the ear canal's

2010-08-21 Thread Alan Jones
Hydrogen Peroxide.


On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 7:01 AM, Kathy Tankersley tanke...@iland.netwrote:

  Whats H202?



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Re: CSMold Fungus COPD

2010-08-21 Thread Deborah Gerard
My 80 year old mother came back from Alabama 3 weeks after the oil explosion 
this year with COPD so bad she couldn't hardly talk let alone walk very far. 
Bought her a nebulizer off Craigs List and gave her a bottle of CS.  She 
started 
talking real clear after only two days of nebulizing and has been improving 
since...can't hardly get her to slow down.
Debbie 

 




From: Ode Coyote odecoy...@windstream.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 6:33:49 AM
Subject: Re: CSMold Fungus



  I personally know of one that came completely back from a doctors death 
sentence from a lung infection they couldn't touch.
  Another by email stating that a decade old battle was DONE in 6 weeks of 
inhaling CS..out of a wheelchair and off the Oxy bottle after ten years of 
rolling around, to and from the hospital.

  There was another old fellow in TN, don't recall what his problem was, 
but seemed that new found energy handed him  this urge to re-paint his 
apartment every few days with an enthusiasm that had me thinking he might 
swallow is CS generator and plug HIMSELF into the wall.
  He liked to go to the emergency room every week..right on schedule... and 
dance for all his old friends.

Ode


At 10:59 PM 8/20/2010 -0700, you wrote:
Anyone ever use cs approach to save the lungs?


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Re: CSSinuses - neti pot? remember the ear canal's

2010-08-21 Thread Deborah Gerard
Jaxi,
Yes just lay on your side and put two or three drops in...you will hear hissing 
and popping if there is anything in there that shouldn't be.
Debbie :)





From: jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 11:26:02 PM
Subject: Re: CSSinuses - neti pot? remember the ear canal's

just a few drops right into the ear? 

Jaxi


On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:



When I have anykind of sinus issue's I put some H202 in my ear's as well and 
that clear's up my nasal congestion,
welcome to the group Krissty,
Debbie :)



From: Krisstyna Holmquist dalaichic...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 4:55:01 PM
Subject: Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

I do add the CS to the salt solution. Particularly when I think there's any 
sort 
of infection. Usually with just one use it knocks out the infection. 


Also, thanks for the welcome Mike. This site has taught so much about CS and 
many other things. I've known CS was a great thing since the first time I used 
it, but I never knew how many other things it could be used for before joining 
here. So thank you to all for all your great info. I'll be sure to add my two 
cents when I can!









  

RE: CSRE: Urea for dry skin Turpentine

2010-08-21 Thread Lisa
Anyone know where we can purchase these items? (Particularly turpentine
that's used for home remedies)?



Lisa

 

  _  

From: Rowena [mailto:new...@internode.on.net] 
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 1:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRE: Urea for dry skin Turpentine

 

Tar water used to be a valued remedy.  Turpentine also.  The pinenes in the
pine oil or sap are effective remedies for many maladies.
R






When I was 12 the docs put tar all over me, trouble was they did not know
how to get it off, I must say it was extremely painful, they used gasoline
to take the tar off.

 

 

 

 



Re: EXTERNAL:Re:CSpederson's silver

2010-08-21 Thread Norton, Steve

I am on a Blackberry right now so my internet capabilities are limited. A 
couple references are below. 

 - Steve N

http://www.quantumbalancing.com/real_facts_on_colloidal_silver.htm

The ionic portion is a combination of silver hydroxide and silver oxide. While 
in solution they continually convert from one to the other and back again. Each 
has a solubility of about 13 ppm, so any EIS which is less than about 26 ppm 
and a pH of 7 will be totally dissolved. Upon contact with the HCl 
(hydrochloric acid) of the stomach both of these compounds will immediately 
form silver chloride




http://www.answerbag.com/q_view/771121

2) A slurry of Ag2O is readily attacked by acids:Ag2O + 2 HX → 2 AgX + H2O 
where HX = HF, HCl, HBr, or HI,

 

- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net]
Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 04:35 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL:Re:CSpederson's silver



  How do we know that?
I don't recall silver oxides and tummies even having been discussed over 
all these years.

Ode


At 06:21 AM 8/20/2010 -0500, you wrote:

One last point. Stomach acid will convert the silver oxide coating on 
the  silver particles to either metallic silver or silver chloride. So 
Guardian Silver  pre-oxidizing their silver particles provides no benefit 
over any other colloidal silver when taken internally.

  - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Norton, Steve
Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2010 10:16 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSpederson's silver


Guardian Silver consists of primarily silver particles. All silver 
particles work by releasing silver ions and it is the silver ions that are 
anti-microbial. Silver ions are not released from pure silver. In vivo, 
silver particles form silver oxide on its surface and it is the silver 
oxide that releases silver ions and provide the anti-microbial activity. 
Guardian Silver claims to pre-oxidize their silver particles
by adding hydrogen peroxide to their CS when making it. That is the sum 
total of the uniqueness of their CS. There may be some benefit to
pre-oxidizing the silver particles vs waiting for it to happen in vivo.















Guardian Silver consists of primarily silver particles. All silver
particles work by releasing silver ions and it is the silver ions that
are anti-microbial. Silver ions are not released from pure silver. In
vivo, silver particles form silver oxide on its surface and it is the
silver oxide that releases silver ions and provide the anti-microbial
activity. Guardian Silver claims to pre-oxidize their silver particles
by adding hydrogen peroxide to their CS when making it. That is the sum
total of the uniqueness of their CS. There may be some benefit to
pre-oxidizing the silver particles vs waiting for it to happen in vivo.


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RE: CSRE: Urea for dry skin Turpentine

2010-08-21 Thread Renee
The turpentine can usually be bought at any big hardware store.  You want to
get one that says 100% pure gum spirits of Turpentine, because there's a 
new' turp that is made with petroleum and you don't want that one.

Go look in the paint department, it's in with the paint strippers.

Samala,
Renee 
 
 
 
 
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Anyone know where we can purchase these items? (Particularly turpentine that’s 
used for home remedies)?

Re: CSSinuses - neti pot? remember the ear canal's

2010-08-21 Thread needling around
Having a problem with swimmer's ear when growing up I was taught to peroxide 
half and half with alcohol and use that in the ears.  Always did the trick and 
no infections after I started using it.
PT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Deborah Gerard 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 11:06 AM
  Subject: Re: CSSinuses - neti pot? remember the ear canal's


  Jaxi,
  Yes just lay on your side and put two or three drops in...you will hear 
hissing and popping if there is anything in there that shouldn't be.
  Debbie :)




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  From: jaxi jaxi.sch...@gmail.com
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 11:26:02 PM
  Subject: Re: CSSinuses - neti pot? remember the ear canal's

  just a few drops right into the ear? 


  Jaxi


  On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:



When I have anykind of sinus issue's I put some H202 in my ear's as well 
and that clear's up my nasal congestion,
welcome to the group Krissty,
Debbie :)



From: Krisstyna Holmquist dalaichic...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 4:55:01 PM
Subject: Re: CSSinuses - neti pot?

I do add the CS to the salt solution. Particularly when I think there's any 
sort of infection. Usually with just one use it knocks out the infection. 

Also, thanks for the welcome Mike. This site has taught so much about CS 
and many other things. I've known CS was a great thing since the first time I 
used it, but I never knew how many other things it could be used for before 
joining here. So thank you to all for all your great info. I'll be sure to add 
my two cents when I can!












CSSodium Bicarbonate to Alkalinize

2010-08-21 Thread Garnet_LDN
Does anyone here remember recent discussions of using Sodium Bicarbonate 
aka Baking Soda as an

regular alkalinzing practice?

I know it is used in the Simoncini Cancer treatments and also as an 
antacid, but this was more along
the line of using it to easily keep your system alkalinized. I remember 
someone saying that a friend
had reported his wife using tablespoon amounts to relieve severe 
arthritis pain.


TIA,

Janet


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