Re: CS>lupus

[Vigilius Haufniensis]

Probably a yang deficiency, depending upon the overall energetic 
pattern.  Hard to say without examining the patient.  Probably qi and 
blood stagnation in the extremities.





On 8/3/2011 2:24 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:

I'll say its either infection of food allergies.

~David

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:

Has anyone any information or experience of the above please?  A friend has 
this and I was wondering if there is any help for it.  Many thanks.  dee

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RE: CS>Buying Generator

[Rod Samuelson]

I make my own cs.  Drinking that much water is not good for me.  Drinking 10
OZ per hour is way too much for me.

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

-Original Message-
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Buying Generator

Both are good.  The Silvergen I believe, makes larger batches.  The Silver
Puppy is really simple to use and uses a magnetic stirrer in the base.  I
have had mine for a few years now with no problems at all.  It also does a
polarity swap which I like, and has an auto and a manual mode.  dee


On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:43, Gladys Williams wrote:

>  
> Am set to buy another generator.  What's better the Silver Puppy or the
Silvergen? 
> Have an old Silvergen and the stirrer keeps falling off.  Does the newer
model of
> each have a well secured stirrer? 
> 
> And has anyone heard of the Silver Smart Colloidal Silver Maker?  Read
this on Tools for Healing:
>  
> David P. Amrein, the President of Dr. Clark Research Association, has the
following to say about the Silver Smart:
> 
> "It took us 18 months to develop the new SILVER SMART. My requirements
were clear: a unit that delivers high
> quality colloidal silver in a known concentration. Especially the latter
has proven to be difficult. It became clear that
> without determining the temperature and the conductivity of the water, a
correct value could not be calculated for
> the concentration of the silver solution. But finally we handled all these
road blocks and now the new unit is available
> and I have seen nothing like it on the
>  
>  


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Re: CS>Buying Generator

[David AuBuchon]

I think particle size really only weighs in when concerned about long
term risk of argyria, and not really to do with effectiveness (and it
really isn't even that concerning with regards to argyria risk
either).  Perhaps this may not be true with viruses, just based on
those in vitro studies that show 10nm size or less was needed to
inhibit HIV replication.  Nonetheless, if all things were equal, I
would still prefer smaller rather than larger particles.

~David

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:54 PM, Neville Munn  wrote:
> This is what happens when money is involved, and people believe whatever
> appears to be written better than another published blurb.
>
> Everyone has the best unit on the market, and each of those units will
> produce the best product, smallest particles, crystal clear solution, blah
> blah, and anything and everything else is rubbish or poor qualityBunkum!
>
> Any wonder this stuff gets a bad rap, marketers competing for that dollar,
> and then regulations start raising their ugly heads over the horizon.
>
> They all produce the same stuff, and if nothing is pulled out of solution by
> gravity over time, then that product is as good as it's gunna be.
>
> Particle size and solution colour are but two half truths that get bandied
> about.  It's going to be efficacious regardless of 'supposed?' particle size
> and colour of solution.
>
> People should ignore published blurbs and just decide for themselves which
> manufacturers unit they wish to purchase on the merit of the manufacturer
> not the machine.  All machines produce similar stuff.  Although I make my
> own units, the better way to make that decision is by speaking with people
> who are willing to discuss it more honestly and openly without trying to
> push anything or showing pretty pictures of lab results.  Those pics are
> taken from a 'glass slide', and do those pics represent the distribution of
> silver in the entire solution, or just the best looking part of that
> solution, or even when that solution was tested after cessation of
> production?
>
> If 'x' unit functions as it should, the resultant product will be as good as
> it can be, and word will spread, and that/those manufacturer/s will be
> guaranteed repeat business, with a reputation to go with that business.
>
> And THIS site is where I'd start looking for honesty an reputation.
> {opinion, and excluding myself of course as I speak for myself only}
>
> N.
>
>> From: msad...@msadams.com
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: RE: CS>Buying Generator
>> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:11:18 -0500
>>
>> Question is not what it costs to make. Question is whether someone is
>> willing to pay that amount to get the product it turns out. For me it was
>> worth it enough to buy 4 units. Granted I got a discount on the follow-up
>> units as a repeat customer.
>>
>> I too wish it was priced lower. It’s a very effective design and that's
>> what
>> we are paying for, the inventor's R & D.
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:01 PM
>> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> > Subject: Re: CS>Buying Generator
>> >
>> > The Meissner research generator would be a good value if it
>> > sold for about $20.
>> >
>> > Granted, some thought has been put into it, but it is merely
>> > a resistor and batteries with silver electrodes.
>> >
>> > Overpriced at $200.
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Scott Adams
>> >  wrote:
>> > > I have four of the Meissner Industries units and I am very
>> > happy with them.
>> > > According to the lab reports on the web site its claimed to
>> > make some
>> > > of the smallest particles of CS. Takes about 3 days to make a half
>> > > gallon batch.
>> > >
>


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CS>autohemotherapy and immune boosting

[David AuBuchon]

Adding on to a thread from a year ago on autohemotherapy...I can't
directly reply to that thread unforunatately, as I can't find it in my
gmail:

I just read of a doctor's experience with 50 patients of various
diseases using a particular colostrum product, derived from cows that
had been "immunologically activated" prior to giving birth, by a
proprietary process.  Within 8 months, NK cell activity as measured by
something called "lytic units" increased by about a factor of 13 (i.e.
1,200%).  The increase was evenly spread out across all the months.
There are 2 other colostrum products out there I really like also, and
I think it is possible they work just as well, and I may try all three
of them for myself someday.  Transfer factors (a part of colostrum) as
well as ordinary whole colostrum have been shown to increase NK cell
activity, though perhaps not as much as this particular product.

Of course this begs the question what are macrophages, NK cells, etc,
and what does increasing their activity really mean in terms of their
units of measurement.

I have tried major ozone autohemotherapy...with 3 back to back passes
in the same sitting with the maximum recommended ozone (200 cc at 70
gamma syringe injected into the blood per pass)and no result.
Also tried ultraviolet blood irradiation with no result.

A couple more suggestions I have for possible autohemotherapy
experiments.  It is clear to me that the ozone neither killed a
significant amount of bacteria in my blood or created a significant
immune response...most probably bartonella being the most prominent
bug.  Biofilm is one possibility why.  CS has in dental and waste
water applications demonstrated anti biofilm properties.  This makes
me think of a couple experiments:

1.  Draw some blood in a syringe preloaded with some CS.  Perhaps only
a few drops of blood.  Perhaps let it stay for like a day outside in
the fridge.  Then re-inject.  Time is needed to degrade biofilm and
guarantee bugs are killed and protein fragments are left for the
immune system to recognize.  This may a bad idea for a few reasons.
One is CS in high concentrations contacting blood perhaps may damage
other things than bugs (i.e. the blood cells)?  And putting those
damaged things back in the body will be a toxic burden that needs to
be eliminated?  Two is that I don't know what consequences letting the
blood stay out of the body for a time would have.  Three is that
injecting CS hurts like hell and makes the injection site swell.

2.  Take a finger prick and a few drops of blood, mix it into an ounce
of CS.  Let it sit for a day in the fridge.  Consume orally.  Could
also be a bad idea for the same reasons.

Another therapy from Dr. K for treating lyme is as follows:

"A very effective and yet simple technique to re-regulate TH1 and TH2 back is
auto-urine therapy. The patient's urine concentrates the antigens (disposed cell
walls and cell fragments of offending microbes which the immune system has
successfully eliminated). By passing the client's urine through a micro pore
filter and injecting it intra-muscularly, the lymphocytes on patrol in the
connective tissue are brought in contact with the antigen and quickly mount a
specific and appropriate immune response.

We use 2 ml of filtered urine once weekly for 12 weeks. All other similar
approaches (autohemotherapy, homeopathic autonosodes, manipulating the immune
system with supplements) are far less effective."

Just thinking out loud.  Ya, I am stupid and reckless, but also
desperate to get well, so I would like to entertain some stupid ideas
if y'all don't mind.  Not that I am seriously considering them though.

~David


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RE: CS>Buying Generator

[Neville Munn]

This is what happens when money is involved, and people believe whatever 
appears to be written better than another published blurb.
 
Everyone has the best unit on the market, and each of those units will produce 
the best product, smallest particles, crystal clear solution, blah blah, and 
anything and everything else is rubbish or poor qualityBunkum!
 
Any wonder this stuff gets a bad rap, marketers competing for that dollar, and 
then regulations start raising their ugly heads over the horizon.
 
They all produce the same stuff, and if nothing is pulled out of solution by 
gravity over time, then that product is as good as it's gunna be.
 
Particle size and solution colour are but two half truths that get bandied 
about.  It's going to be efficacious regardless of 'supposed?' particle size 
and colour of solution.
 
People should ignore published blurbs and just decide for themselves which 
manufacturers unit they wish to purchase on the merit of the manufacturer not 
the machine.  All machines produce similar stuff.  Although I make my own 
units, the better way to make that decision is by speaking with people who are 
willing to discuss it more honestly and openly without trying to push anything 
or showing pretty pictures of lab results.  Those pics are taken from a 'glass 
slide', and do those pics represent the distribution of silver in the entire 
solution, or just the best looking part of that solution, or even when that 
solution was tested after cessation of production?
 
If 'x' unit functions as it should, the resultant product will be as good as it 
can be, and word will spread, and that/those manufacturer/s will be guaranteed 
repeat business, with a reputation to go with that business.
 
And THIS site is where I'd start looking for honesty an reputation. {opinion, 
and excluding myself of course as I speak for myself only}
 
N.
 

> From: msad...@msadams.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: RE: CS>Buying Generator
> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:11:18 -0500
> 
> Question is not what it costs to make. Question is whether someone is
> willing to pay that amount to get the product it turns out. For me it was
> worth it enough to buy 4 units. Granted I got a discount on the follow-up
> units as a repeat customer.
> 
> I too wish it was priced lower. It’s a very effective design and that's what
> we are paying for, the inventor's R & D. 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:01 PM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>Buying Generator
> > 
> > The Meissner research generator would be a good value if it 
> > sold for about $20.
> > 
> > Granted, some thought has been put into it, but it is merely 
> > a resistor and batteries with silver electrodes.
> > 
> > Overpriced at $200.
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Scott Adams 
> >  wrote:
> > > I have four of the Meissner Industries units and I am very 
> > happy with them.
> > > According to the lab reports on the web site its claimed to 
> > make some 
> > > of the smallest particles of CS. Takes about 3 days to make a half 
> > > gallon batch.
> > >
  

Re: CS>Buying Generator

[Dan Nave]

Put a 4.7k ohm resistor in series with two1.5 volt batteries.  Connect
to silver electrodes.  Put in distilled water.

Send me $180 for that information, because the rest isn't worth more
than $20.  Besides, this is the same thing that Mike Monett came up
with on the silver-list several years ago.

Dan


On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Scott Adams  wrote:
> Question is not what it costs to make. Question is whether someone is
> willing to pay that amount to get the product it turns out. For me it was
> worth it enough to buy 4 units. Granted I got a discount on the follow-up
> units as a repeat customer.
>
> I too wish it was priced lower. It’s a very effective design and that's what
> we are paying for, the inventor's R & D.
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:01 PM
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: Re: CS>Buying Generator
>>
>> The Meissner research generator would be a good value if it
>> sold for about $20.
>>
>> Granted, some thought has been put into it, but it is merely
>> a resistor and batteries with silver electrodes.
>>
>> Overpriced at $200.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Scott Adams
>>  wrote:
>> > I have four of the Meissner Industries units and I am very
>> happy with them.
>> > According to the lab reports on the web site its claimed to
>> make some
>> > of the smallest particles of CS. Takes about 3 days to make a half
>> > gallon batch.
>> >
>> > http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator
>> >
>> > I can't comment on the two you are asking about.
>> >
>> > Scott Adams
>> > www.lyme-resource.com
>> > You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! -
>> > Scott Adams
>> >
>> > 
>> > From: Gladys Williams [mailto:gwms...@optonline.net]
>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:43 PM
>> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>> > Subject: CS>Buying Generator
>> >
>> >
>> > Am set to buy another generator.  What's better the Silver Puppy or
>> > the Silvergen?
>> > Have an old Silvergen and the stirrer keeps falling off.  Does the
>> > newer model of each have a well secured stirrer?
>> > And has anyone heard of the Silver Smart Colloidal Silver
>> Maker?  Read
>> > this on Tools for Healing:
>> >
>> > David P. Amrein, the President of Dr. Clark Research
>> Association, has
>> > the following to say about the Silver Smart:
>> > "It took us 18 months to develop the new SILVER SMART. My
>> requirements
>> > were
>> > clear: a unit that delivers high
>> > quality colloidal silver in a known concentration. Especially the
>> > latter has proven to be difficult. It became clear that without
>> > determining the temperature and the conductivity of the water, a
>> > correct value could not be calculated for the concentration of the
>> > silver solution. But finally we handled all these road
>> blocks and now
>> > the new unit is available and I have seen nothing like it on the
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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RE: CS>lupus

[Neville Munn]

One of my daughters had a severe reaction to an antibiotic administered for an 
open wound leg infection a while ago and this was her case.
 
Woke up with eyes swollen shut, and I believe a puffy face. 
Her sister worked at a chemist shop at the time and the Pharmacist asked if she 
was developing an 'butterfly' pattern on her back, if so, get her straight to 
the doctor as that is a sign of lupus developing.
Sister went home and checked and discovered a sort of half butterfly pattern 
starting to develop, so immediately took daughter to doctor.
Doctor gave an injection immediately to counteract the antibiotic.
When she got home I went around and gave her EIS to take for the infection as 
now there was nothing being done to treat the infection.
Happy ending for lupus, and infection cleared up in a week or so.
 
The 'butterfly' pattern apparently is a good sign of lupus developing.  And 
this particular pharamcist I would trust my life with as she is brilliant with 
her knowledge.
 
FWIW.
 
N.
 

> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:24:02 -0700
> Subject: Re: CS>lupus
> From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> I'll say its either infection of food allergies.
> 
> ~David
> 
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> > Has anyone any information or experience of the above please?  A friend has 
> > this and I was wondering if there is any help for it.  Many thanks.  dee
> >
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RE: CS>lupus

[PTFerrance]

A woman I knew years ago, controlled it with diet and stress management.
PT

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From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 3:19 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>lupus

Has anyone any information or experience of the above please?  A friend has
this and I was wondering if there is any help for it.  Many thanks.  dee

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RE: CS>Buying Generator

[Scott Adams]

Question is not what it costs to make. Question is whether someone is
willing to pay that amount to get the product it turns out. For me it was
worth it enough to buy 4 units. Granted I got a discount on the follow-up
units as a repeat customer.

I too wish it was priced lower. It’s a very effective design and that's what
we are paying for, the inventor's R & D. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 1:01 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Buying Generator
> 
> The Meissner research generator would be a good value if it 
> sold for about $20.
> 
> Granted, some thought has been put into it, but it is merely 
> a resistor and batteries with silver electrodes.
> 
> Overpriced at $200.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Scott Adams 
>  wrote:
> > I have four of the Meissner Industries units and I am very 
> happy with them.
> > According to the lab reports on the web site its claimed to 
> make some 
> > of the smallest particles of CS. Takes about 3 days to make a half 
> > gallon batch.
> >
> > http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator
> >
> > I can't comment on the two you are asking about.
> >
> > Scott Adams
> > www.lyme-resource.com
> > You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - 
> > Scott Adams
> >
> > 
> > From: Gladys Williams [mailto:gwms...@optonline.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:43 PM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: CS>Buying Generator
> >
> >
> > Am set to buy another generator.  What's better the Silver Puppy or 
> > the Silvergen?
> > Have an old Silvergen and the stirrer keeps falling off.  Does the 
> > newer model of each have a well secured stirrer?
> > And has anyone heard of the Silver Smart Colloidal Silver 
> Maker?  Read 
> > this on Tools for Healing:
> >
> > David P. Amrein, the President of Dr. Clark Research 
> Association, has 
> > the following to say about the Silver Smart:
> > "It took us 18 months to develop the new SILVER SMART. My 
> requirements 
> > were
> > clear: a unit that delivers high
> > quality colloidal silver in a known concentration. Especially the 
> > latter has proven to be difficult. It became clear that without 
> > determining the temperature and the conductivity of the water, a 
> > correct value could not be calculated for the concentration of the 
> > silver solution. But finally we handled all these road 
> blocks and now 
> > the new unit is available and I have seen nothing like it on the
> >
> >
> 
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Re: CS>lupus

[Marshall]

CMO has proven effective for lupus as well as a number of other 
autoimmune disorders.


Marshall

On 8/3/2011 3:18 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:

Has anyone any information or experience of the above please?  A friend has 
this and I was wondering if there is any help for it.  Many thanks.  dee

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Re: CS>lupus

[David AuBuchon]

I'll say its either infection of food allergies.

~David

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick  wrote:
> Has anyone any information or experience of the above please?  A friend has 
> this and I was wondering if there is any help for it.  Many thanks.  dee
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CS>lupus

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Has anyone any information or experience of the above please?  A friend has 
this and I was wondering if there is any help for it.  Many thanks.  dee

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Re: CS>Buying Generator

[Dan Nave]

The Meissner research generator would be a good value if it sold for about $20.

Granted, some thought has been put into it, but it is merely a
resistor and batteries with silver electrodes.

Overpriced at $200.

Dan

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Scott Adams  wrote:
> I have four of the Meissner Industries units and I am very happy with them.
> According to the lab reports on the web site its claimed to make some of
> the smallest particles of CS. Takes about 3 days to make a half gallon
> batch.
>
> http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator
>
> I can't comment on the two you are asking about.
>
> Scott Adams
> www.lyme-resource.com
> You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott
> Adams
>
> 
> From: Gladys Williams [mailto:gwms...@optonline.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:43 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Buying Generator
>
>
> Am set to buy another generator.  What's better the Silver Puppy or the
> Silvergen?
> Have an old Silvergen and the stirrer keeps falling off.  Does the newer
> model of
> each have a well secured stirrer?
> And has anyone heard of the Silver Smart Colloidal Silver Maker?  Read this
> on Tools for Healing:
>
> David P. Amrein, the President of Dr. Clark Research Association, has the
> following to say about the Silver Smart:
> "It took us 18 months to develop the new SILVER SMART. My requirements were
> clear: a unit that delivers high
> quality colloidal silver in a known concentration. Especially the latter has
> proven to be difficult. It became clear that
> without determining the temperature and the conductivity of the water, a
> correct value could not be calculated for
> the concentration of the silver solution. But finally we handled all these
> road blocks and now the new unit is available
> and I have seen nothing like it on the
>
>


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Re: CS>legs weak

[Jane MacRoss]

I thought he meant mLs .
  - Original Message - 
  From: Scott Adams 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:45 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>legs weak


  Rod,

  When you say Herx it makes me think you might have Chronic Lyme. Why are you 
taking CS and what are you trying to treat? What do you mean by 24ms? Normally 
I think milliseconds when I see ms.

  regards

  Scott Adams
  www.lyme-resource.com
  You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott Adams 




From: Rod Samuelson [mailto:rodsamuel...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>legs weak


Using cs my legs are weak.  Make my own and consume 24 ms per day at 12ppm  
do have herx but leg weakness  ???

 

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net

 



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Re: CS>Silver generator

[Trem]

We sometimes tell a person that has trouble getting the PPM high enough 
or if the unit doesn't shut off that setting the dial a bit lower than 
HIGH will allow it to shut off instead of continuing to run which keeps 
adding silver to the water.  It's impassible to "break" the machine.  
It's "bulletproof".  Please don't shoot it as a test!


Trem





On 8/2/2011 9:23 PM, slickpic...@cox.net wrote:

Thanks Melly.  How strange that they would even put a setting on the machine 
that would break it...?  I never got that info but fortunately I've not had any 
problems when running it on max.  It takes a little longer to complete (as 
expected) but no other issues.

Terry


 Melly Bag  wrote:

Terry,
  
This is what i was told when i called silvergen's office.  That i am not to turn it all the way up to the max or i'll break the machine.  I called then for low ppm even at max setting.
  
Melly


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Re: CS>legs weak

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Are you *sure* this is the CS?  I have never heard of this happening I must 
say.  dee


On 3 Aug 2011, at 03:38, Rod Samuelson wrote:

> Using cs my legs are weak.  Make my own and consume 24 ms per day at 12ppm  
> do have herx but leg weakness  ???
>  
> Rod Samuelson
> 860-881-3734 cell
> new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net
> 
>  


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Re: CS>Buying Generator

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

I leave my magnetic beads in the silver solution and don't get yellowing.  I 
didn't know the SilverGen does a magnetic stirrer, I thought that was just the 
Silver Puppy.  You live and learn--hopefully!  dee


On 3 Aug 2011, at 00:29, Del wrote:

> Gladys:
>  
> Maybe I can save you some money.
> Buy yourself a mag stirrer from Ode (Silver Puppy website).
> http://www.silverpuppy.com/page1b.html
> Take the stirring stick off the Silvergen and use it with the mag stirrer 
> instead.
> That’s what I did, and it works great.
> I also have the Silver Puppy, but currently I mostly use the Silvergen with 
> the mag stirrer and the magnetic beads (hint – when not in use, store the 
> beads in distilled water, and never touch them with your hands – took me a 
> few yellow batches before I learned that).
> If you can afford it, buy the silver puppy with the mag stirrer, but keep 
> your silvergen as well.
> Then you can decide which you prefer.  In any event, it is good to have a 
> backup unit.
>  
> Del
>  


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Re: CS>Buying Generator

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Both are good.  The Silvergen I believe, makes larger batches.  The Silver 
Puppy is really simple to use and uses a magnetic stirrer in the base.  I have 
had mine for a few years now with no problems at all.  It also does a polarity 
swap which I like, and has an auto and a manual mode.  dee


On 2 Aug 2011, at 20:43, Gladys Williams wrote:

>  
> Am set to buy another generator.  What's better the Silver Puppy or the 
> Silvergen? 
> Have an old Silvergen and the stirrer keeps falling off.  Does the newer 
> model of
> each have a well secured stirrer? 
> 
> And has anyone heard of the Silver Smart Colloidal Silver Maker?  Read this 
> on Tools for Healing:
>  
> David P. Amrein, the President of Dr. Clark Research Association, has the 
> following to say about the Silver Smart:
> 
> "It took us 18 months to develop the new SILVER SMART. My requirements were 
> clear: a unit that delivers high
> quality colloidal silver in a known concentration. Especially the latter has 
> proven to be difficult. It became clear that
> without determining the temperature and the conductivity of the water, a 
> correct value could not be calculated for
> the concentration of the silver solution. But finally we handled all these 
> road blocks and now the new unit is available
> and I have seen nothing like it on the
>  
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RE: CS>Buying Generator

[Scott Adams]

I have four of the Meissner Industries units and I am very happy with them.
According to the lab reports on the web site its claimed to make some of the
smallest particles of CS. Takes about 3 days to make a half gallon batch.
 
http://meissnerresearch.com/products/silver-generator
 
I can't comment on the two you are asking about.
 
Scott Adams
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From: Gladys Williams [mailto:gwms...@optonline.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:43 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Buying Generator


  
Am set to buy another generator.  What's better the Silver Puppy or the
Silvergen?  
Have an old Silvergen and the stirrer keeps falling off.  Does the newer
model of 
each have a well secured stirrer?  


And has anyone heard of the Silver Smart Colloidal Silver Maker?  Read this
on Tools for Healing:
 
David P. Amrein, the President of Dr. Clark Research Association, has the
following to say about the Silver Smart:


"It took us 18 months to develop the new SILVER SMART. My requirements were
clear: a unit that delivers high 
quality colloidal silver in a known concentration. Especially the latter has
proven to be difficult. It became clear that 
without determining the temperature and the conductivity of the water, a
correct value could not be calculated for 
the concentration of the silver solution. But finally we handled all these
road blocks and now the new unit is available 
and I have seen nothing like it on the 
 
 

RE: CS>legs weak

[Scott Adams]

Rod,

When you say Herx it makes me think you might have Chronic Lyme. Why are you
taking CS and what are you trying to treat? What do you mean by 24ms?
Normally I think milliseconds when I see ms.
 
regards
 
Scott Adams
www.lyme-resource.com  
You can lead a person to a fact, but you can't make them think! - Scott
Adams 


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From: Rod Samuelson [mailto:rodsamuel...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:39 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>legs weak



Using cs my legs are weak.  Make my own and consume 24 ms per day at 12ppm
do have herx but leg weakness  ???

 

Rod Samuelson
860-881-3734 cell
new email address  rsamuels...@cox.net