Re: CSDon't Go
Pardon? Is this Neville you are talking about? Doesn't sound at all the Neville I have been reading all these years! dee On 27 Jan 2012, at 20:18, D Glover wrote: 'Should we let this die a natural death now?' You say. Understand this; (you don't seem to be able to understand this point which I have already made) a guy asked about uS readings, and he did not even refer to the meter you sell at all, which I never even knew existed either, so you have no cause to feel personally vilified in some way by my advice to that gentleman concerning TDS meters. Rightly, you should have written directly to educate firstly that man who asked that question by letting him, and everyone else via your communication to him, that you produce a different type of meter that you believe can resolve his problem, then you could have recommended your product to him, if that is something that is acceptable on this forum, but that is what you did in a devious and thoroughly unpleasant and round about manner anyway after you attacked my understanding and methodology of making silver sol, and you are trying to sell something here, not me, you are the person with commercial products for sale, not me. The guy asking the question was not even talking about the type of meter you were selling anyway, but a TDS meter, and I was right in what I said in reply to him, in referring to the poor type of results he would be likely to get by attempting to measure silver sol ppm with his TDS meter. You have serious anger management issues because you are one irrationally and thoroughly misdirected angry man. Who will you pick on next that is not even posting about you, or to you, or about your products? What sort of 'death' were you thinking of, and of what exactly? I had stopped responding totally to this issue, and here you are again, drumming up a small army of people that you have grossly mislead with your whining, so that I am very sadly once more obliged to respond to your continued drivel. You are absolutely sickeningly pathetic in that you have shamelessly manipulated these people. They really have no idea of the truth of the matter. So far I have been falsely accused of trying to mislead people into giving up producing their own silver sol, and more. You have to be seriously nuts to come up with rubbish like that, that is just hate filled twisted jealousy. Your right to 'speak up' extended only to politely offering what you believe to be a superior and different product to a TDS meter, and to the gentleman posting that specific question about how to extrapolate ppm values from uS values. On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: I thought by my non response this would die and go away, seems to have worked with some of my questioning in the past...Silence? g. I'm not leaving, I feared when I fired from the hip earlier the Boss may have had something to say that's all, and I was, and still am, willing to accept whatever comes my way. H.I most humbly Thank those who spoke for me, but could we let this die a natural death now? g There are plenty of learned people here much more deserving of the written word than me and my arrogant and steadfast beliefs and opinions. People form their own conclusions on matters and make choices of their own volition, I've formed and made mine. Melly is right, ...everyone has the right to speak up, I just excercised that right, in my own way. It's time people learned to rethink some of that old rehashed misinformation and got dragged into the 21st century by the scruff of their necks. I think we've all been playing around with this stuff for quite long enough to dispell some of the antiquated information in the public domain, perpetuating it does nothing for this product. N. From: zzekel...@aol.com Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 07:44:01 -0500 Subject: Re: CSDon't Go To: silver-list@eskimo.com In a message dated 1/25/2012 11:44:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, tita_...@yahoo.com writes: Don't leave us here N. I've learned a lot from you. Me too !!! I always look for your posts when I have too many to go through.. Please stay with us...Lois -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSIs this Herxheimer Reaction??
hello, glad to finally find a forum for discussing CS, not many around.. I decided to start making and taking CS as I have Crohns disease, so they tell me anyway, been on a diet called Specific Carbohydrate Diet for about 4 years.. no medication, don't drink much if any alcohol, dont smoke anything I wanted to see if this CS could heal me or help me in some way.. so I made it, 10ppm according to the guy who made the constant current machine, no reason to doubt him. it has the tyndal effect and is clear... I took about 2 teaspoons 3 times a day, for about 4 weeks, felt fine... then all hell broke lose... felt like I was having a Crohns flare, excruciating cramping, nausea vommitting..lasted 1 and a half days.. then felt ok with that but came down with flu or cold symptoms... which I never really get due to the healthy diet I follow... extremely runny nose, watery eyes, dry feeling in mouth and chest, sneezing like I have never sneezed before and a kinda dull head..not really a headache.. had this for a couple of days.. so is this a die off of bacteria etc?? should I stop taking the CS for few days or just lower the amount?? anything I can add to my diet to help? I know every case is different depending on what ailments you have, but I could really do with some advice here... apologies for the long post but wanted to give the background info to start off.. Thanks Dave
RE: CSIs this Herxheimer Reaction??
How long has it all lasted? It is my understanding a Herx reaction doesn't last more than a few days. That has also been my experience. I have also read that Crohns can be helped by the Japanese version of Green Magma. Finally, Frequency Specific Microcurrent has a protocol for it. Good luck. PT From: Dave [mailto:lookin4workto...@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:37 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSIs this Herxheimer Reaction?? hello, glad to finally find a forum for discussing CS, not many around.. I decided to start making and taking CS as I have Crohns disease, so they tell me anyway, been on a diet called Specific Carbohydrate Diet for about 4 years.. no medication, don't drink much if any alcohol, dont smoke anything I wanted to see if this CS could heal me or help me in some way.. so I made it, 10ppm according to the guy who made the constant current machine, no reason to doubt him. it has the tyndal effect and is clear... I took about 2 teaspoons 3 times a day, for about 4 weeks, felt fine... then all hell broke lose... felt like I was having a Crohns flare, excruciating cramping, nausea vommitting..lasted 1 and a half days.. then felt ok with that but came down with flu or cold symptoms... which I never really get due to the healthy diet I follow... extremely runny nose, watery eyes, dry feeling in mouth and chest, sneezing like I have never sneezed before and a kinda dull head..not really a headache.. had this for a couple of days.. so is this a die off of bacteria etc?? should I stop taking the CS for few days or just lower the amount?? anything I can add to my diet to help? I know every case is different depending on what ailments you have, but I could really do with some advice here... apologies for the long post but wanted to give the background info to start off.. Thanks Dave _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4772 - Release Date: 01/28/12 No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4772 - Release Date: 01/28/12
Re: CSIs this Herxheimer Reaction??
Hi Dave. Welcome to the list. You're taking a very conservative amount of CS, and I've never heard of a herx reaction to such a small amount. Not saying it's impossible, just not likely. Herxheimer's are generally the result of a large and sudden intake of CS -- people sometimes drink cups to quarts. What you're experiencing now sounds to me like a common cold -- and I'd be increasing my intake of CS, if it was me. Using your CS as nose-drops and ear-drops might help. A healthy diet is a good thing, but it won't protect you from exposure to a virulent virus. Even very healthy people get a cold or the flu occasionally. I hope you feel better soon. MA From: Dave lookin4workto...@yahoo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sat, January 28, 2012 7:36:30 AM Subject: CSIs this Herxheimer Reaction?? hello, glad to finally find a forum for discussing CS, not many around.. I decided to start making and taking CS as I have Crohns disease, so they tell me anyway, been on a diet called Specific Carbohydrate Diet for about 4 years.. no medication, don't drink much if any alcohol, dont smoke anything I wanted to see if this CS could heal me or help me in some way.. so I made it, 10ppm according to the guy who made the constant current machine, no reason to doubt him. it has the tyndal effect and is clear... I took about 2 teaspoons 3 times a day, for about 4 weeks, felt fine... then all hell broke lose... felt like I was having a Crohns flare, excruciating cramping, nausea vommitting..lasted 1 and a half days.. then felt ok with that but came down with flu or cold symptoms... which I never really get due to the healthy diet I follow... extremely runny nose, watery eyes, dry feeling in mouth and chest, sneezing like I have never sneezed before and a kinda dull head..not really a headache.. had this for a couple of days.. so is this a die off of bacteria etc?? should I stop taking the CS for few days or just lower the amount?? anything I can add to my diet to help? I know every case is different depending on what ailments you have, but I could really do with some advice here... apologies for the long post but wanted to give the background info to start off.. Thanks Dave
CS[List Owner] Don't Go? How 'bout don't argue?
Hi folks, Thought I'd step in here before things deteriorated. Thanks to the couple of you who gave me a heads-up on the situation. D. Glover, First, I think you've mis-connected two different folks. Neville, with whom you seem to have a disagreement, is NOT the fellow who mentioned the meter that he sells. That's Trem Williams, a seasoned member of the list and one of the very small handful of manufacturers of CS generators who has proven over the years to be temperamentally suited to long-term participation in our group. He shares what he knows without undue self-promotion, and his input is *always* welcome. Neville doesn't sell anything as far as I know. He's just a punter, as he describes it, like most of us on the list. grin The point he was making is that our interests here tend to gravitate towards a simpler, home-user approach that does not demand the strict reproduceability or demanding production standards that hospital use would. I make my CS on the kitchen table in a quart canning jar, and it works just fine, thank you! I've had to crack the whip over Neville once or twice in the past for his less-than-diplomatic approach, and this may be the latest occasion for me to do just that. but I think it could be very valuable to you to realize that for the people on this list, in terms of the consensus of nearly a decade and a half of experience and study, a couple of the things you have taken to be true are not applicable to the kind of CS preparation we are talking about here. Our more technically inclined members have, over time, gravitated towards a lower current density for production than you're using -- high surface area, low current, longer brew time. The result, i.e., what Neville is labelling as properly made CS, does NOT require storage in the dark, appears to NOT be effected by magnets, remains stable for months and even years (after a couple of days to stabilize its composition), and has proven for hundreds of users to be perfectly effective and functional. And if you inquire, I'm sure one or more of our resident experts will share their best understanding of exactly what it is that's made by this process and why it appears to be stable and effective. Admittedly, given the state of public- and corporate-funded research in this world, the CS we make is not anywhere near as well characterized or it's activitiy as fully understood as we'd all like, but I'm sure that's a situation with which you are *very* familiar. We have some pretty good guesses, though, as you will find if you ask. Neville? Please don't impute motives to Mr. Glover that obviously don't apply. He's not selling anything and does not intend to mislead anybody. And your tone can be enough to get anybody's back up, so don't take that as further proof of said ulterior motives. Meanwhile, Mr. Glover, please understand that an important PART of the mission of this list is to encourage new folks to make and use their own CS, and that the extra effort you expend in your production process would only serve to discourage the average new person from even attempting it. While I appreciate and respect the virtues of the generator design you've developed, I'd rather a hundred folks make it in a jar on the kitchen counter than only one of them surviving to implement the level of production controls that you have. Once they've got something that works, they can always improve things later, right? As for the list mission, it most certainly includes anything you'd care to share with us as to clinical applications and results you've managed to facilitate. That kind of experience is priceless, and I wish you the best of success in your efforts. So, can we declare a truce and perhaps initiate a new process of mining the brain trust here, for everyone's benefit? Peace, Mike D. Silver List owner 'Should we let this die a natural death now?' You say. Understand this; (you don't seem to be able to understand this point which I have already made) a guy asked about uS readings, and he did not even refer to the meter you sell at all, which I never even knew existed either, so you have no cause to feel personally vilified in some way by my advice to that gentleman concerning TDS meters. Rightly, you should have written directly to educate firstly that man who asked that question by letting him, and everyone else via your communication to him, that you produce a different type of meter that you believe can resolve his problem, then you could have recommended your product to him, if that is something that is acceptable on this forum, but that is what you did in a devious and thoroughly unpleasant and round about manner anyway after you attacked my understanding and methodology of making silver sol, and you are trying to sell something here, not me, you are the person with commercial products for sale, not me. The guy asking the question was not even talking about the type
CSDon't go here if you are sensitive
Whenever I feel insulted I go here and have a good laugh. http://www.guymacon.com/fun/insult/index.htm OK, Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdifferent ways
You're just wicked!! - Original Message - From: Tony Moody a...@new.co.za To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 5:29 PM Subject: CSdifferent ways Way out in the desert group - How to make CS in half a lemon. Really simple beginners guide. Squeeze half a lemon, fill with water, clip a silver rod and a copper or stainless rod together and place in the water for a few minutes or much longer. Remove the rods ( or they will poke you in the face ) and apply or drink the liquid. Do not apply to skin surface exposed to the public unless you want to brag of a dark tan. Please sip through a straw or your lips will turn black. ( Note that for $1000 I can supply the plans for a control kit and instruction on how to use the kit to reduce the the darkening effects. The required supplies of specially formulate vitamin e and selenium are optional extras : take out a loan ) Modifications for higher production rates and greater volumes, Note: experimental and not yet tried : * Use a whole lemon, make a 20mm dia hole and scoop out the flesh. Then poke the rods through two smaller holes near the 20mm hole. ensure that holes are al pointing approximately skywards and fill with water. Check regularly for correct particle size and number of cluster by means of your electron microscope. * Use a grapefruit. * Using battery water in a coconut is not recommended because of the tooth-rot experienced. Alternate water sources: Well water unwell water urine (own) someone else urine mouse pee. wallie water Note : although the results should all be approximately similar it is imperative that samples are taken and analyzed for mad cow disease and traces of speed, and recorded in triplicate before starting. NoteNote that making cs using contaminated water will save the world from all disease and is thus strictly forbidden. I hope this helps ... :-)) OK Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4773 - Release Date: 01/28/12
CSRe: Don't go here if you are sensitive
On 29 Jan 2012 at 8:29, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote about : Subject : Don't go here if you are sensitive Whenever I feel insulted I go here and have a good laugh. http://www.guymacon.com/fun/insult/index.htm OK, Tony Oops, I take that all back and offer this instead. http://www.guymacon.com/FUN/INSULT/INDEX.HTM Works for me The nice thing about all this is that Neville is getting this before the rest of us because the sun rises there first. So he gets to laugh longer. Which I think is a good thing. I like Neville. Tony -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
