Re: CSBeck zapper

2012-02-06 Thread asif nathekar
I made my own Zapper both the bob beck type and Hilda Clark type 
Sorry I cannot recommend places to purchase since commercial units quality vary 
too much as much as their claims, which is mostly why i made my to be sure of 
what I have.

Sent from my iPhone

On 6 Feb 2012, at 04:06, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
 bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
 I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
 since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
 did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
 months at first and then less and less frequently.
 
 So please tell us more about zappers . . .
 
 thanks,
 
 Joyce
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
 shingles.  The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
 zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
 outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
 long) within a few weeks.  My son had an episode of infectious
 mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
 him.  He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
 and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping.  For all practical
 purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
 need any period of extended rest, or anything like that.  So, it
 definitely works on some things.  I would not hesitate to use it on
 someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
 such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
 with some DMSO.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive
 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to
 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
 
 I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive
 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
 neglected to use it.
 
 I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
 could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
 beleive that it could work.
 
 Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it,
 so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
 electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..
 
 any testimonies...???
 
 thanks again.
 
 --
 From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 
The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has
 been in our researches), however,
 there are...at present..several other---more recent designs;  more
 powerful in effect than is the original
 device developed by Robert.  A brief survey of the Internet using
 zapper  as the key word, will illicit
 a number of valid references.  If you are unsuccessful email me
 personally and I will attempt to offer
 some useful guidance in your search.
Sincerely,
   Brooks Bradley.   Harborne Research Foundation.
 
 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi group,
 
 Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share
 
 As I want to use one on my mate with the boils  if it's potentially
 effective
 
 Thanks
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: CSBeck zapper

2012-02-06 Thread asif nathekar
I have designs for both zappers should anyone require them.

Sent from my iPhone

On 6 Feb 2012, at 04:28, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
 operating at about 30KHz.  This is the same as her old schematic for a
 zapper.  I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
 electrode.
 
 I guess that is as clear as mud...
 
 Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
 know if it is any better or not.  But much more expensive as it is a
 really fancy electronic device.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
 bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
 I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
 since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
 did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
 months at first and then less and less frequently.
 
 So please tell us more about zappers . . .
 
 thanks,
 
 Joyce
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
 shingles.  The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
 zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
 outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
 long) within a few weeks.  My son had an episode of infectious
 mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
 him.  He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
 and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping.  For all practical
 purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
 need any period of extended rest, or anything like that.  So, it
 definitely works on some things.  I would not hesitate to use it on
 someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
 such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
 with some DMSO.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive
 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to
 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
 
 I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive
 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
 neglected to use it.
 
 I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
 could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
 beleive that it could work.
 
 Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it,
 so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
 electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..
 
 any testimonies...???
 
 thanks again.
 
 --
 From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 
The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has
 been in our researches), however,
 there are...at present..several other---more recent designs;  more
 powerful in effect than is the original
 device developed by Robert.  A brief survey of the Internet using
 zapper  as the key word, will illicit
 a number of valid references.  If you are unsuccessful email me
 personally and I will attempt to offer
 some useful guidance in your search.
Sincerely,
   Brooks Bradley.   Harborne Research Foundation.
 
 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi group,
 
 Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share
 
 As I want to use one on my mate with the boils  if it's potentially
 effective
 
 Thanks
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: CSBeck zapper

2012-02-06 Thread Alan Jones
They are sold on ebay for very reasonable prices.

-Alan

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
 bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
 I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
 since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
 did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
 months at first and then less and less frequently.

 So please tell us more about zappers . . .

 thanks,

 Joyce

 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
  I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
  shingles.  The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
  zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
  outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
  long) within a few weeks.  My son had an episode of infectious
  mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
  him.  He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
  and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping.  For all practical
  purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
  need any period of extended rest, or anything like that.  So, it
  definitely works on some things.  I would not hesitate to use it on
  someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
  such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
  with some DMSO.
 
  Dan
 
  On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
  I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from
 positive
  27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up
 to
  100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
 
  I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to
 positive
  9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
  neglected to use it.
 
  I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
  could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
  beleive that it could work.
 
  Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used
 it,
  so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
  electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..
 
  any testimonies...???
 
  thanks again.
 
  --
  From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
  Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 
 The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has
  been in our researches), however,
  there are...at present..several other---more recent designs;  more
  powerful in effect than is the original
  device developed by Robert.  A brief survey of the Internet using
  zapper  as the key word, will illicit
  a number of valid references.  If you are unsuccessful email me
  personally and I will attempt to offer
  some useful guidance in your search.
 Sincerely,
Brooks Bradley.   Harborne Research Foundation.
 
  On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar 
 asifnathe...@hotmail.com
  wrote:
 
  Hi group,
 
  Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share
 
  As I want to use one on my mate with the boils  if it's potentially
  effective
 
  Thanks
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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RE: CSBeck zapper

2012-02-06 Thread Lisa
Hi Asif,

I'd love to have those designs please.

Lisa

-Original Message-
From: asif nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 6:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper

I have designs for both zappers should anyone require them.

Sent from my iPhone

On 6 Feb 2012, at 04:28, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
 operating at about 30KHz.  This is the same as her old schematic for a
 zapper.  I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
 electrode.
 
 I guess that is as clear as mud...
 
 Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
 know if it is any better or not.  But much more expensive as it is a
 really fancy electronic device.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
 bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
 I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
 since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
 did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
 months at first and then less and less frequently.
 
 So please tell us more about zappers . . .
 
 thanks,
 
 Joyce
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
 shingles.  The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
 zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
 outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
 long) within a few weeks.  My son had an episode of infectious
 mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
 him.  He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
 and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping.  For all practical
 purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
 need any period of extended rest, or anything like that.  So, it
 definitely works on some things.  I would not hesitate to use it on
 someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
 such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
 with some DMSO.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive
 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to
 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
 
 I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive
 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
 neglected to use it.
 
 I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
 could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
 beleive that it could work.
 
 Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it,
 so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
 electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..
 
 any testimonies...???
 
 thanks again.
 
 --
 From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 
The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has
 been in our researches), however,
 there are...at present..several other---more recent designs;  more
 powerful in effect than is the original
 device developed by Robert.  A brief survey of the Internet using
 zapper  as the key word, will illicit
 a number of valid references.  If you are unsuccessful email me
 personally and I will attempt to offer
 some useful guidance in your search.
Sincerely,
   Brooks Bradley.   Harborne Research Foundation.
 
 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi group,
 
 Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share
 
 As I want to use one on my mate with the boils  if it's potentially
 effective
 
 Thanks
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
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Re: CSCS Old horseman's cure for boils

2012-02-06 Thread ZZekelink
Hi M, No -not bothered at all. Just very interested in your  info.. Never 
knew they took the Pre toes off for showing--etc.{ only did one  show  
that was at a local get to gather...}  I only had one  /pony--then horse at a 
time. Got a Quarter horse for my daughter.{ she inherited  the  horse crazy 
 from me.}  Easy to take special care of only  one at a time--- Dad always 
said,  If you care about them--take care of  them.  boy did I care--  
  Hi Lois.  Oh I'm sorry -- there  goes that written word thing again 
-- I did not mean to imply that your horse  wasn't well-groomed!  When you 
said old farmer, I assumed that his farm  horses were probably cared for 
like most work animals -- health issues taken  care of, *beauty* things not so 
much.  Keeping the chestnuts clean is very  often something that only 
show-horse owners worry about.  I was  also trying to explain why a 
non-horse-person may have never noticed the  chestnuts on a horse.  I hope I 
didn't offend 
you.  It sounds to me  that Lady was better cared-for than my own horses 
are.

P.S.  Lois -- can I ask where you live?  I've never heard the  term *cork*  
 I live 1 hour south East of Buffalo NY  1 hr  South West of Rochester NY. 
within walking distance of The Grand Canyon of  the East Letchworth State 
Park.  { Castile NY  }  When You mentioned the Indians calming horses  
with the Pre Toe scent. It made me wonder if I may be a reincarnated  
horse :-)  maybe that's why it calmed my boils...   grin ,chuckle,  LOL  Lois

 







RE: CSBeck zapper

2012-02-06 Thread PTFerrance
Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free 
software you can download.  Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes 
(sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper

I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
operating at about 30KHz.  This is the same as her old schematic for a
zapper.  I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
electrode.

I guess that is as clear as mud...

Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
know if it is any better or not.  But much more expensive as it is a
really fancy electronic device.

Dan


On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
 bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
 I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
 since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
 did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
 months at first and then less and less frequently.

 So please tell us more about zappers . . .

 thanks,

 Joyce

 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
 shingles.  The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
 zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
 outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
 long) within a few weeks.  My son had an episode of infectious
 mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
 him.  He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
 and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping.  For all practical
 purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
 need any period of extended rest, or anything like that.  So, it
 definitely works on some things.  I would not hesitate to use it on
 someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
 such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
 with some DMSO.

 Dan

 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive
 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to
 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects

 I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive
 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
 neglected to use it.

 I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
 could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
 beleive that it could work.

 Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it,
 so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
 electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..

 any testimonies...???

 thanks again.

 --
 From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper


The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has
 been in our researches), however,
 there are...at present..several other---more recent designs;  more
 powerful in effect than is the original
 device developed by Robert.  A brief survey of the Internet using
 zapper  as the key word, will illicit
 a number of valid references.  If you are unsuccessful email me
 personally and I will attempt to offer
 some useful guidance in your search.
Sincerely,
   Brooks Bradley.   Harborne Research Foundation.

 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi group,

 Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share

 As I want to use one on my mate with the boils  if it's potentially
 effective

 Thanks

 Sent from my iPhone


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Re: CSBeck zapper

2012-02-06 Thread Asif Nathekar
I bought a 12 v car speaker amplifier to do this however I felt that the 
voltage amplitude wouldn't be high enough as it wouldn't go higher than its 
source power voltage.  
Also remember that the amplifier will not have a decent flat output curve and 
will be limited to 100 hz to around 20khz .


I even got iPhone software to generate the frequencies for convenience . 

I recommend the iPhone 4 or similar generation iPod touch because the audio 
output is of a much better quality and better behaved at a wider range of 
frequencies than the others in the range.

Now I just need some frequencies and a decent amp!


On 6 Feb 2012, at 14:28, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free 
 software you can download.  Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes 
 (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
 operating at about 30KHz.  This is the same as her old schematic for a
 zapper.  I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
 electrode.
 
 I guess that is as clear as mud...
 
 Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
 know if it is any better or not.  But much more expensive as it is a
 really fancy electronic device.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
 bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
 I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
 since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
 did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
 months at first and then less and less frequently.
 
 So please tell us more about zappers . . .
 
 thanks,
 
 Joyce
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
 shingles.  The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
 zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
 outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
 long) within a few weeks.  My son had an episode of infectious
 mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
 him.  He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
 and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping.  For all practical
 purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
 need any period of extended rest, or anything like that.  So, it
 definitely works on some things.  I would not hesitate to use it on
 someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
 such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
 with some DMSO.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive
 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to
 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
 
 I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive
 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
 neglected to use it.
 
 I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
 could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
 beleive that it could work.
 
 Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it,
 so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
 electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..
 
 any testimonies...???
 
 thanks again.
 
 --
 From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 
   The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has
 been in our researches), however,
 there are...at present..several other---more recent designs;  more
 powerful in effect than is the original
 device developed by Robert.  A brief survey of the Internet using
 zapper  as the key word, will illicit
 a number of valid references.  If you are unsuccessful email me
 personally and I will attempt to offer
 some useful guidance in your search.
   Sincerely,
  Brooks Bradley.   Harborne Research Foundation.
 
 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi group,
 
 Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share
 
 As I want to use one on my mate with the boils  if it's potentially
 effective
 
 Thanks
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 --
 The Silver List 

RE: CSBeck zapper

2012-02-06 Thread PTFerrance
As far as I understand it, a speaker amplifier is inappropriate for doing 
frequency work.   Amplifiers for this purpose are available at www.frex.com.au 
and other places.  The Frex website even has a do-it-yourself version for free.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 12:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper

I bought a 12 v car speaker amplifier to do this however I felt that the 
voltage amplitude wouldn't be high enough as it wouldn't go higher than its 
source power voltage.  
Also remember that the amplifier will not have a decent flat output curve and 
will be limited to 100 hz to around 20khz .


I even got iPhone software to generate the frequencies for convenience . 

I recommend the iPhone 4 or similar generation iPod touch because the audio 
output is of a much better quality and better behaved at a wider range of 
frequencies than the others in the range.

Now I just need some frequencies and a decent amp!


On 6 Feb 2012, at 14:28, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the free 
 software you can download.  Just hook up an amp and some wires and electrodes 
 (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com] 
 Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
 operating at about 30KHz.  This is the same as her old schematic for a
 zapper.  I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
 electrode.
 
 I guess that is as clear as mud...
 
 Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
 know if it is any better or not.  But much more expensive as it is a
 really fancy electronic device.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com wrote:
 Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
 bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
 I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
 since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
 did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
 months at first and then less and less frequently.
 
 So please tell us more about zappers . . .
 
 thanks,
 
 Joyce
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
 shingles.  The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
 zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
 outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
 long) within a few weeks.  My son had an episode of infectious
 mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
 him.  He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
 and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping.  For all practical
 purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
 need any period of extended rest, or anything like that.  So, it
 definitely works on some things.  I would not hesitate to use it on
 someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
 such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
 with some DMSO.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from positive
 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up to
 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
 
 I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to positive
 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
 neglected to use it.
 
 I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
 could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
 beleive that it could work.
 
 Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used it,
 so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
 electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..
 
 any testimonies...???
 
 thanks again.
 
 --
 From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 
   The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has
 been in our researches), however,
 there are...at present..several other---more recent designs;  more
 powerful in effect than is the original
 device developed by Robert.  A brief survey of the Internet using
 zapper  as the key word, will illicit
 a number of valid references.  If you are unsuccessful email me
 personally and I will attempt to offer
 some useful 

Re: Re: CSHulda clark zapper

2012-02-06 Thread Asif Nathekar
For those who asked :
For the Hulda clark design of zapper, I used the design of the very good Mr 
Bruce K. Stenulson
Build Your Own Zapper / Pulsed DC CS Generator

http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/cspulse.htm

although i would remove the LED from the output as it would sink too much power 
for itself!. 

I have learnt a lot from this website, although i have my own views which 
differ to his in some areas, I am very very happy to recommend that one goes 
and reads and learns wholeheartedly from him and he is very well informed and 
his work reflects his knowledge and his love for humanity. ( although this is a 
endorsement of sorts, I am not affiliated with him in any way !)



From: Joyce Miller 
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 7:13 PM
To: asifnathe...@hotmail.com 
Subject: Re: Re: CSBeck zapper


You wrote: I have designs for both zappers should anyone require them.

Yes, I would really like to have both designs.

Thank you in advance,

Joyce Miller
jmillerwo...@gmail.com 

-- 
I feel an earnest and humble desire, and shall till I die, to increase the 
stock of harmless cheerfulness - Charles Dickens. 

http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com  
www.dearjubilee.com


Re: Re: CSHulda clark zapper

2012-02-06 Thread Joyce Miller
Thank you for providing both  patterns.

Joyce Miller

On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.comwrote:

 **
  *For those who asked :* *For the Hulda clark design of zapper, I used
 the design of the very good Mr Bruce K. Stenulson* *Build Your Own
 Zapper / Pulsed DC CS Generator*

 http://www.stenulson.net/althealth/cspulse.htm

 although i would remove the LED from the output as it would sink too much
 power for itself!.

 I have learnt a lot from this website, although i have my own views which
 differ to his in some areas, I am very very happy to recommend that one
 goes and reads and learns wholeheartedly from him and he is very well
 informed and his work reflects his knowledge and his love for humanity. (
 although this is a endorsement of sorts, I am not affiliated with him in
 any way !)


  *From:* Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Monday, February 06, 2012 7:13 PM
 *To:* asifnathe...@hotmail.com
 *Subject:* Re: Re: CSBeck zapper

 You wrote: I have designs for both zappers should anyone require them.

 Yes, I would really like to have both designs.

 Thank you in advance,

 Joyce Miller
 jmillerwo...@gmail.com

 --
 I feel an earnest and humble desire, and shall till I die, to increase
 the stock of harmless cheerfulness - Charles Dickens.

 http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com
 www.dearjubilee.com




-- 
I feel an earnest and humble desire, and shall till I die, to increase the
stock of harmless cheerfulness - Charles Dickens.

http://dearjubilee-joyce.blogspot.com
www.dearjubilee.com