CSnebuliser

2012-02-07 Thread Asif Nathekar
Hi again!,

Can anyone recommend a good nebuliser, under £100 pounds that I can buy here in 
the Uk?

We have bought 3 from china via EBAY and arrive faulty or soon become 
defective... False economy!...

thanks



Re: CSBeck zapper

2012-02-07 Thread Asif Nathekar

website not working.maybe sold or incorrect

--
From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper

Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the 
free software you can download.  Just hook up an amp and some wires and 
electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go.

PT

-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper

I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
operating at about 30KHz.  This is the same as her old schematic for a
zapper.  I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
electrode.

I guess that is as clear as mud...

Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
know if it is any better or not.  But much more expensive as it is a
really fancy electronic device.

Dan


On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
months at first and then less and less frequently.

So please tell us more about zappers . . .

thanks,

Joyce

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:

I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
shingles.  The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
long) within a few weeks.  My son had an episode of infectious
mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
him.  He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping.  For all practical
purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
need any period of extended rest, or anything like that.  So, it
definitely works on some things.  I would not hesitate to use it on
someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
with some DMSO.

Dan

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com 
wrote:
I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from 
positive
27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up 
to

100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects

I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to 
positive

9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
neglected to use it.

I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
beleive that it could work.

Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used 
it,

so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..

any testimonies...???

thanks again.

--
From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper



   The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has
been in our researches), however,
there are...at present..several other---more recent designs;  more
powerful in effect than is the original
device developed by Robert.  A brief survey of the Internet using
zapper  as the key word, will illicit
a number of valid references.  If you are unsuccessful email me
personally and I will attempt to offer
some useful guidance in your search.
   Sincerely,
  Brooks Bradley.   Harborne Research Foundation.

On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar 
asifnathe...@hotmail.com

wrote:


Hi group,

Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share

As I want to use one on my mate with the boils  if it's potentially
effective

Thanks

Sent from my iPhone


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Re: CSnebuliser

2012-02-07 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
yes I have a Medisana which I got from Amazon.  dee



On 7 Feb 2012, at 17:09, Asif Nathekar wrote:

 Hi again!,
  
 Can anyone recommend a good nebuliser, under £100 pounds that I can buy here 
 in the Uk?
  
 We have bought 3 from china via EBAY and arrive faulty or soon become 
 defective... False economy!...
  
 thanks
  
  


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Re: CSnebuliser

2012-02-07 Thread Asif Nathekar

ok thanks

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To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSnebuliser


yes I have a Medisana which I got from Amazon.  dee



On 7 Feb 2012, at 17:09, Asif Nathekar wrote:


Hi again!,

Can anyone recommend a good nebuliser, under £100 pounds that I can buy 
here in the Uk?


We have bought 3 from china via EBAY and arrive faulty or soon become 
defective... False economy!...


thanks





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RE: CSBeck zapper

2012-02-07 Thread PTFerrance
My fault, www.frex.com.au  
Sorry.
PT

-Original Message-
From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper

website not working.maybe sold or incorrect

--
From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper

 Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the 
 free software you can download.  Just hook up an amp and some wires and 
 electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go.
 PT

 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper

 I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
 operating at about 30KHz.  This is the same as her old schematic for a
 zapper.  I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
 electrode.

 I guess that is as clear as mud...

 Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
 know if it is any better or not.  But much more expensive as it is a
 really fancy electronic device.

 Dan


 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
 bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
 I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
 since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
 did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
 months at first and then less and less frequently.

 So please tell us more about zappers . . .

 thanks,

 Joyce

 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
 shingles.  The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
 zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
 outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
 long) within a few weeks.  My son had an episode of infectious
 mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
 him.  He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
 and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping.  For all practical
 purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
 need any period of extended rest, or anything like that.  So, it
 definitely works on some things.  I would not hesitate to use it on
 someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
 such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
 with some DMSO.

 Dan

 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from 
 positive
 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up 
 to
 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects

 I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to 
 positive
 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
 neglected to use it.

 I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
 could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
 beleive that it could work.

 Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used 
 it,
 so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
 electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..

 any testimonies...???

 thanks again.

 --
 From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper


The Beck zapper is a very useful device (at least it has
 been in our researches), however,
 there are...at present..several other---more recent designs;  more
 powerful in effect than is the original
 device developed by Robert.  A brief survey of the Internet using
 zapper  as the key word, will illicit
 a number of valid references.  If you are unsuccessful email me
 personally and I will attempt to offer
 some useful guidance in your search.
Sincerely,
   Brooks Bradley.   Harborne Research Foundation.

 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 4:53 PM, asif nathekar 
 asifnathe...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi group,

 Has anyone got any anecdotes for the beck zapper to share

 As I want to use one on my mate with the boils  if it's potentially
 effective

 Thanks

 Sent from my iPhone


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Re: CSBeck zapper

2012-02-07 Thread asif nathekar
They have a rife amplifier for sale and also a diagram that can be used by a 
sound or signal generater , looks like my next project.
 The ic will do frequencies to 25mhz flat curve! Impressive but most rife 
frequencies are usually in the audio range so I may use a regular opamp for now 
to test the concept A regular 741 chip and it's variants will do to 1mhz easily 
which is what's required, also available and cheap!
Will build and see if it has enough voltage and current output to sense a 
decent tingle at least

I tested a car audio amp I had originally bought for this purpose and it's 
output curve was awful so it wouldn't be a good idea to use it for this purpose 
since it could either shock you silly or become weak depending on the 
frequency. This is independent of what your own nerves are sensitive to.
So I will stay away from the audio amp since I don't fancy modifying it to make 
it behave. I may actually use it as an audio amp instead !

Sent from my iPhone

On 7 Feb 2012, at 19:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 My fault, www.frex.com.au  
 Sorry.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 website not working.maybe sold or incorrect
 
 --
 From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper
 
 Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the 
 free software you can download.  Just hook up an amp and some wires and 
 electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
 operating at about 30KHz.  This is the same as her old schematic for a
 zapper.  I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
 electrode.
 
 I guess that is as clear as mud...
 
 Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
 know if it is any better or not.  But much more expensive as it is a
 really fancy electronic device.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
 bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
 I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
 since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
 did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
 months at first and then less and less frequently.
 
 So please tell us more about zappers . . .
 
 thanks,
 
 Joyce
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
 shingles.  The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
 zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
 outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
 long) within a few weeks.  My son had an episode of infectious
 mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
 him.  He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
 and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping.  For all practical
 purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
 need any period of extended rest, or anything like that.  So, it
 definitely works on some things.  I would not hesitate to use it on
 someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
 such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
 with some DMSO.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from 
 positive
 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up 
 to
 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
 
 I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to 
 positive
 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
 neglected to use it.
 
 I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
 could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
 beleive that it could work.
 
 Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used 
 it,
 so that i could use it the same way. I have bought sticky adhesive gel
 electrode pads for a TENS machine as electrodes..
 
 any testimonies...???
 
 thanks again.
 
 --
 From: Brooks Bradley bradlebro...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2012 11:02 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 
   The Beck 

RE: CSBeck zapper

2012-02-07 Thread PTFerrance
It is my understanding that audio amps are inappropriate to do the job... but 
I'm no expert.  Bil Green would be better equipped to answer your questions.
PT

-Original Message-
From: asif nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:13 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper

They have a rife amplifier for sale and also a diagram that can be used by a 
sound or signal generater , looks like my next project.
 The ic will do frequencies to 25mhz flat curve! Impressive but most rife 
frequencies are usually in the audio range so I may use a regular opamp for now 
to test the concept A regular 741 chip and it's variants will do to 1mhz easily 
which is what's required, also available and cheap!
Will build and see if it has enough voltage and current output to sense a 
decent tingle at least

I tested a car audio amp I had originally bought for this purpose and it's 
output curve was awful so it wouldn't be a good idea to use it for this purpose 
since it could either shock you silly or become weak depending on the 
frequency. This is independent of what your own nerves are sensitive to.
So I will stay away from the audio amp since I don't fancy modifying it to make 
it behave. I may actually use it as an audio amp instead !

Sent from my iPhone

On 7 Feb 2012, at 19:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 My fault, www.frex.com.au  
 Sorry.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 website not working.maybe sold or incorrect
 
 --
 From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper
 
 Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the 
 free software you can download.  Just hook up an amp and some wires and 
 electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
 operating at about 30KHz.  This is the same as her old schematic for a
 zapper.  I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
 electrode.
 
 I guess that is as clear as mud...
 
 Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
 know if it is any better or not.  But much more expensive as it is a
 really fancy electronic device.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
 bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
 I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
 since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
 did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
 months at first and then less and less frequently.
 
 So please tell us more about zappers . . .
 
 thanks,
 
 Joyce
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
 shingles.  The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
 zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
 outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
 long) within a few weeks.  My son had an episode of infectious
 mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
 him.  He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
 and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping.  For all practical
 purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
 need any period of extended rest, or anything like that.  So, it
 definitely works on some things.  I would not hesitate to use it on
 someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
 such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
 with some DMSO.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from 
 positive
 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up 
 to
 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
 
 I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to 
 positive
 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
 neglected to use it.
 
 I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
 could work but require something more than sales brochure to actually
 beleive that it could work.
 
 Basically I require human verification that it works, and how they used 
 it,
 so that i could use it the same way. I have bought 

RE: CSBeck zapper

2012-02-07 Thread PTFerrance
Sorry, Bil is on a different list...
PT

-Original Message-
From: PTFerrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:35 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper

It is my understanding that audio amps are inappropriate to do the job... but 
I'm no expert.  Bil Green would be better equipped to answer your questions.
PT

-Original Message-
From: asif nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:13 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper

They have a rife amplifier for sale and also a diagram that can be used by a 
sound or signal generater , looks like my next project.
 The ic will do frequencies to 25mhz flat curve! Impressive but most rife 
frequencies are usually in the audio range so I may use a regular opamp for now 
to test the concept A regular 741 chip and it's variants will do to 1mhz easily 
which is what's required, also available and cheap!
Will build and see if it has enough voltage and current output to sense a 
decent tingle at least

I tested a car audio amp I had originally bought for this purpose and it's 
output curve was awful so it wouldn't be a good idea to use it for this purpose 
since it could either shock you silly or become weak depending on the 
frequency. This is independent of what your own nerves are sensitive to.
So I will stay away from the audio amp since I don't fancy modifying it to make 
it behave. I may actually use it as an audio amp instead !

Sent from my iPhone

On 7 Feb 2012, at 19:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 My fault, www.frex.com.au  
 Sorry.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 website not working.maybe sold or incorrect
 
 --
 From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper
 
 Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the 
 free software you can download.  Just hook up an amp and some wires and 
 electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
 operating at about 30KHz.  This is the same as her old schematic for a
 zapper.  I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
 electrode.
 
 I guess that is as clear as mud...
 
 Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
 know if it is any better or not.  But much more expensive as it is a
 really fancy electronic device.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
 bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
 I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
 since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
 did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
 months at first and then less and less frequently.
 
 So please tell us more about zappers . . .
 
 thanks,
 
 Joyce
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
 shingles.  The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
 zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
 outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
 long) within a few weeks.  My son had an episode of infectious
 mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
 him.  He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
 and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping.  For all practical
 purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
 need any period of extended rest, or anything like that.  So, it
 definitely works on some things.  I would not hesitate to use it on
 someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
 such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
 with some DMSO.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from 
 positive
 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up 
 to
 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
 
 I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to 
 positive
 9-18v in a square wave at around 20-25khz, I have one of these too but
 neglected to use it.
 
 I can see from the discussions and stated science, how the beck zapper
 could work but 

CSSilver hydosol

2012-02-07 Thread Deborah Gerard
Can someone comment on what this is? I have never heard mention of it before.   
 Thanks much...Debbie


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Re: CSSilver hydosol

2012-02-07 Thread Dan Nave
It's a fancy name for what is commonly called colloidal silver,
because what we call colloidal silver is really more of a solution of
silver ions in water, hence the more accurate name silver hydosol.

Dan

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Can someone comment on what this is? I have never heard mention of it before. 
    Thanks much...Debbie


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Re: CSBeck zapper

2012-02-07 Thread asif nathekar
I will report my progress for the groups interest

Sent from my iPhone

On 7 Feb 2012, at 23:40, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Sorry, Bil is on a different list...
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: PTFerrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 6:35 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper
 
 It is my understanding that audio amps are inappropriate to do the job... but 
 I'm no expert.  Bil Green would be better equipped to answer your questions.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: asif nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 5:13 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 They have a rife amplifier for sale and also a diagram that can be used by a 
 sound or signal generater , looks like my next project.
 The ic will do frequencies to 25mhz flat curve! Impressive but most rife 
 frequencies are usually in the audio range so I may use a regular opamp for 
 now to test the concept A regular 741 chip and it's variants will do to 1mhz 
 easily which is what's required, also available and cheap!
 Will build and see if it has enough voltage and current output to sense a 
 decent tingle at least
 
 I tested a car audio amp I had originally bought for this purpose and it's 
 output curve was awful so it wouldn't be a good idea to use it for this 
 purpose since it could either shock you silly or become weak depending on the 
 frequency. This is independent of what your own nerves are sensitive to.
 So I will stay away from the audio amp since I don't fancy modifying it to 
 make it behave. I may actually use it as an audio amp instead !
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 7 Feb 2012, at 19:52, PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 
 My fault, www.frex.com.au  
 Sorry.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Asif Nathekar [mailto:asifnathe...@hotmail.com] 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:11 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 website not working.maybe sold or incorrect
 
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 From: PTFerrance ptf2...@bellsouth.net
 Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 2:28 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: CSBeck zapper
 
 Another website, www.frex.com has a set of the zapper frequencies in the 
 free software you can download.  Just hook up an amp and some wires and 
 electrodes (sponges, handhelds or otherwise) and you are good to go.
 PT
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Nave [mailto:bhangcha...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2012 11:28 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CSBeck zapper
 
 I just made one using a 555 timer chip as a square wave oscillator
 operating at about 30KHz.  This is the same as her old schematic for a
 zapper.  I think there is a 1 K ohm resistor in series with each
 electrode.
 
 I guess that is as clear as mud...
 
 Nowadays the zapper they sell is much more sophisticated but I don't
 know if it is any better or not.  But much more expensive as it is a
 really fancy electronic device.
 
 Dan
 
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 10:05 PM, Joyce Miller jmillerwo...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 Where did you get your zapper? I use Dr. Clark's liver and gall
 bladder cleanse, and it always says to zap for a week before doing so.
 I had no idea where to get a zapper or what it entailed to use it, so
 since my health adviser said I could go ahead and use the cleanse, I
 did, and it worked very well. But it has to be done every couple of
 months at first and then less and less frequently.
 
 So please tell us more about zappers . . .
 
 thanks,
 
 Joyce
 
 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have used a Hulda Clark type zapper on myself (and others) for
 shingles.  The more longstanding the shingles episode was before
 zapping, the longer it took to clear it, but it did clear up fresh
 outbreaks quickly and resolved a longstanding episode (many months
 long) within a few weeks.  My son had an episode of infectious
 mononucleosis which was diagnosed medically, then I rushed a zapper to
 him.  He used it for 1 course of zapping per Hulda Clark's protocol
 and then vomited so he didn't do any more zapping.  For all practical
 purposes, the next day he was over it and didn't have any relapse or
 need any period of extended rest, or anything like that.  So, it
 definitely works on some things.  I would not hesitate to use it on
 someone with boils, but I might also use some other protocols as well,
 such as colloidal silver orally, and transdermally as a pack mixed
 with some DMSO.
 
 Dan
 
 On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Asif Nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 I have built one from dr becks reference design that swings from 
 positive
 27v to negative 27v square wave at around 4 hz, although one may use up 
 to
 100 HZ to reduce some of the undesirable effects
 
 I have seen other designs like hulda clarks which pulses a 0v to 
 positive
 9-18v in a 

Re: CSSilver hydosol

2012-02-07 Thread Deborah Gerard
Thank U
-Original Message-
Date: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 10:19:18 pm
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver hydosol

It's a fancy name for what is commonly called colloidal silver,
because what we call colloidal silver is really more of a solution of
silver ions in water, hence the more accurate name silver hydosol.

Dan

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:37 PM, Deborah Gerard devorah...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Can someone comment on what this is? I have never heard mention of it before. 
    Thanks much...Debbie


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CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support

2012-02-07 Thread 2 Words Production
Does anyone know if there's a protocol that would be beneficial for 
renal regeneration? If only to clean the blood, I am looking now for a 
zapper - Beck or other. If someone has a device in working order and 
would like to donate it to my friend, please let me know. We do not have 
much money to spare as most of it is going towards supplements and 
diagnostics, we both live on fixed incomes which is making finding a 
cure rather challenging. If at possible, perhaps we can barter. I can 
record an angelic chant of 3 Hebrew Psalms of your choice or if you 
prefer to allow me to choose that for you based on Kabbalistic 
assessment. All recordings are done from the Holy Land and are geared 
individually to the individual and the intent is only for the higher 
good and transformation of darkness into light.


If interested in this barter, please send me an email.

Thank you very much,
Joy


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Re: CSBeck Zapper for Renal Support

2012-02-07 Thread David AuBuchon
There were a lot of good options in the previous thread on kidney failure
if you ask me.  Ubiquinol I think is the foremost.  Better, but more
expensive would be liposomal ubiquinol.  Then Kibow Probiotics was another
one.  Sorry, I don't know any one-time-cost approaches for kidney failure
however...

On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 8:56 PM, 2 Words Production 
2wordsproduct...@gmail.com wrote:

 Does anyone know if there's a protocol that would be beneficial for renal
 regeneration? If only to clean the blood, I am looking now for a zapper -
 Beck or other. If someone has a device in working order and would like to
 donate it to my friend, please let me know. We do not have much money to
 spare as most of it is going towards supplements and diagnostics, we both
 live on fixed incomes which is making finding a cure rather challenging. If
 at possible, perhaps we can barter. I can record an angelic chant of 3
 Hebrew Psalms of your choice or if you prefer to allow me to choose that
 for you based on Kabbalistic assessment. All recordings are done from the
 Holy Land and are geared individually to the individual and the intent is
 only for the higher good and transformation of darkness into light.

 If interested in this barter, please send me an email.

 Thank you very much,
 Joy


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