RE: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS
Don't know if you've misunderstood David. I'm referring to my not trusting wikipedia. A bit like googling silver, probly the first articles that come up will tell the reader they'll turn blue if they consume it. Wiki is mostly copy and paste material, or volunteered from mainstream and the general public from what I gather, at least with google, even though that's copy and paste as well, I can dig a lot deeper. Subjective?...Objective?...Proof?...Studies...? My readings indicate Rife was successful, however, I am encouraged to decide as an individual what material I put credence in, until proven beyond *my* reasonable doubt to the contrary. N. Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 22:46:05 -0700 Subject: Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS From: aubuchon.da...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com By the same arguments, one could ask where are all the studies on colloidal silver done by credible researchers? Oops. The funny thing about what constitutes objective proof, is that it is a subjective decision. David On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: Many seem to quote wikipedia, I doubt this source is all that reliable. I certainly wouldn't quote from it as any form of authority on subject matters such as these anyway, and I'm only a mug punter. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from all my readings about Rife his *personal* researched material was destroyed, and his sidekicks attempted to duplicate from memory did they not? And I'm not exactly sure if *everything* he did was documented? Again from my readings, he failed to repeat his purported successes after the ruination of him and the destruction of his material. N. From: mrmon...@pstca.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 22:59:46 -0400 Hi Jason, No reputable researcher has been able to duplicate Royal Rife's results. From Wikipedia: Rife's claims could not be independently replicated, [5] and were ultimately discredited by the medical profession in the 1950s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Rife
Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS
Neville Munn one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: Many seem to quote wikipedia, I doubt this source is all that reliable. I certainly wouldn't quote from it as any form of authority on subject matters such as these anyway, and I'm only a mug punter. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from all my readings about Rife his *personal* researched material was destroyed, and his sidekicks attempted to duplicate from memory did they not? And I'm not exactly sure if *everything* he did was documented? Again from my readings, he failed to repeat his purported successes after the ruination of him and the destruction of his material. N. I did not invoke Rife. Jason did. Wikipedia is far more accurate than the postings on this forum. Wikipedia gives references. That rarely happens here. Studies have shown Wikipedia is at least as accurate as Encyclopedia Britannica. As in anything, you have to do your own research to verify the facts. google is an excellent resource. There is no need to invoke the destruction of Rife's equipment. The references #5 and #8 in the Wikipedia rticle show the description of a Zapper used to treat cancer based on Rife's design. It is similar to the Zapper proposed by Clark, and would be equally incapable of doing anything to reach or to harm bacteria. It would be impossible to destroy knowledge of such a simple device. According to reference 8 in the Wikipedia article, The device was invented a century ago by Albert Abrams (1864-1924), an American physician who became a millionaire and was branded by the American Medical Association the dean of gadget quacks. His research was refined by a Californian pathologist, Raymond Royal Rife (1888-1971) If this device worked as claimed, there would have been no illness caused by pathogens long before the start of WWII. There would be no need for the discovery of penicillin and other antibiotics. Everyone would have one in the home, and hospitals would be reduced to setting the occasional bone. We would not have MRSA, and Lyme disease would not exist. There would be no HIV. None of this has come to pass. Thanks, Mike -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS
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Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS
Hi Tony, We sure were lucky this time, with having our (Sky) Marshall nearby, even if Sleeping?g Yes, one sniff and Marshall made quick draw, on verbose shopping list, of Mike's rambling! I'm glad to see, HIJACK incident went without serious insult to SilverList members, except I heard later, some were complaining of MIkeGRAINE Headaches and smelling...old Mold? Looks like Mike D. is going to have to really get that damn [UNSUBSCRIBE] button fixed, or next time it might be a (full-blown) Zombie Attack...including return of the Bad-Histava? Before we blame technology, maybe Mike Lied (again) and never left List, like if Paranoid. I'm retired Engineer, not-real Doctor, but @^@ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania and if that don't help understanding personality problems, we can still call for a Krampus? Over 50 years in Military Aerospace Engineering... have run into many a Delusional EE. From years of managing EE's, Mike's disruptive nature around others, is never...workable! With EE background, I already challenged Saint Michael last Fall, for missing Information on how he was deriving measurements, etc. and I offered assistance. I was then blocked from any further postings in 'HIS' Y-GrOpE and he sent me 3~4 emails which I ignored ;~) For months, simply sat back patiently waiting, watching and laughing at Mike screwing-up. He did not know answer to Electro-Chemistry question I asked: name for Res. (I) regulator ckt. he used to control brew Cell current..? Try~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanostat Yes, Galvanostat/(Amprostat) are exactly the techniques Bob Beck used in his BE design and also not recognized/understood by Russ at SOTA, or the Lizard Guy in 6V Germ-killer. BTW, Saint Mike is now Persona-non-Grata in Lizard GrOpE...after posting on Chromium? Godzilla always was/is Dangerous to user with Iontophoresis pumping potentially Toxic Ion and while DC Zilla gets Germ Killer results, it pumps Bad (long term) Neuro Toxic, Cu Ions. Of all the so called Zapper technologies over years (working, or not) only ZILLA, ION RISK! Back 150+ years ago, Doctors safely used almost exactly same DC currents, to then Treat rather than BURN patients...where now 150 years later Ignorant ZILLA users get 3rd-degree BURNS...which bG dismisses, as being only minor skin rash, that will eventually, go away? Saint Michael most likely has never read up on how Doctors safely used Medical currents, but give me until Sunday afternoon and I will post lost secrets URL, after Mike is sleeping? I'll offer you a BIG clue... when pumping (Metallic) Cations, negative trod is always HUGE, Doctors fully understanding (+) (-) trodes are not swappable, ZILLA users kept in DARK! Now in May 2012, Silver Cell is a (childish) JOKE, of plastic-board, hot glue, stolen straws, yet still we cannot Pin-Down source(s) of Contaminationnot seen, IN other...generators? Last I heard...thought it was Sulfur, escaping from Gel-Cell batteries in emergency lighting, but with years of fighting Mold Infestations and Herpes from girl friends Kid, WHO knows..? In (real world) design Engineering, Mike would never have survived past 90-Daze Probation! Not only did Saint Mike Hijack original Question, but he never even answered it, before he proceeded to run on and on, with his own error ridden agenda(s), posting his GrOpE Links. Tony, beware (as you are moderator) in [Beck-n-Stuff] Y-Group...I predict a Saint Mike, will likely try to start preaching about Deadly (chromium) IONS, if using Stainless Steel trode? Just remember, Robert Beck's Dr.Sci degrees are in Physics/(MSEE) and he understood, all ramifications...of using type 316-SS Electrodes with a (4-HZ) Biphasic ION Pump/Trap! If he dares to show up in any BECK groups...I will be glad to lecture...4-HZ/BiPhasic Trap. As we all grow older, hopefully we won't end...like Saint Mike? www.theDASHmovie.com Please Note: I started reply ten hours ago (at Truck Stop) actual Send Time got delayed, so now that I am back, live on-Internet...I see Saint Mike is still in here TROLLING along? Not sure when, I'm on-line, but My Time is worth far more, than huge Pile-of-Monett.g 2nd opinion Dok Dallas Upon first hearing possibility, of Saint MIKE...I was excited, about CANONIZING process, but when I offered to light Fuse, everyone laughed G Damn they don't use Gun Powder!. (I know, this was where CKING normally puts a Tag Line, but I really wanted to post mine) (OK, I know...CKING normally puts his TAG line here, but I just couldn't pass-up, posting) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour
Re: CSMacular Degeneration
Melly Bag wrote: Brickey, Am interested in how long did you treat each eye with LEDs from V. I have V's LEDs too 660-850. Am still trying to figure out how to use it. Am not so sure how many minutes to use on each spot. Thanks. Melly Brickey, I'd also like to know how far away from the eyes Brickey placed the LEDs, and with eyes open or closed? I was a bit surprised to see the infrared LED used with eyes. My unit came with a warning NOT to use the 880 on/in eyes, so I am particularly interested how long to use the 880, and from what distance, and whether eyes were closed or open. thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSMacular Degeneration
V is always very helpful too...Debbie Sent via my Samsung Replenish from Boost Mobile Melly Bag tita_...@yahoo.com wrote: Brickey, Am interested in how long did you treat each eye with LEDs from V. I have V's LEDs too 660-850. Am still trying to figure out how to use it. Am not so sure how many minutes to use on each spot. Thanks. Melly
Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS
Hi Dok, I'm with you on a lot of your post. Yes, Marshal is admirable in the science dept. and ability to to discuss it. The mm uses lm317 or derivatives usually , can't remember him using op amps, but he adds a lot of compenstion circuits around for voltage and temp variation. Expensive egotistic overkill for our needs, my opinion. Have to admire what he knows tho. But that kind of circuit is a real pain (if not impossible) to get reliable low current. It is full moon and there is a lot of barking. bg is also a good guy but I left there when i couldn't get through to him about burns. Thanks for the headsup. Its very quiet on Becknstuff .You want to stir a bit there, will be good. Not that I understand a lot of what you say; I'm not american and don't watch much TV. :-) Thats enough damage from me for one day. OK, Tony On 5 May 2012 at 6:22, Dok Dallas wrote about : Subject : Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS Hi Tony, We sure were lucky this time, with having our (Sky) Marshall nearby, even if Sleeping?g Yes, one sniff and Marshall made quick draw, on verbose shopping list, of Mike's rambling! I'm glad to see, HIJACK incident went without serious insult to SilverList members, except I heard later, some were complaining of MIkeGRAINE Headaches and smelling...old Mold? Looks like Mike D. is going to have to really get that damn [UNSUBSCRIBE] button fixed, or next time it might be a (full-blown) Zombie Attack...including return of the Bad-Histava? Before we blame technology, maybe Mike Lied (again) and never left List, like if Paranoid. I'm retired Engineer, not-real Doctor, but @^@ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megalomania and if that don't help understanding personality problems, we can still call for a Krampus? Over 50 years in Military Aerospace Engineering... have run into many a Delusional EE. From years of managing EE's, Mike's disruptive nature around others, is never...workable! With EE background, I already challenged Saint Michael last Fall, for missing Information on how he was deriving measurements, etc. and I offered assistance. I was then blocked from any further postings in 'HIS' Y-GrOpE and he sent me 3~4 emails which I ignored ;~) For months, simply sat back patiently waiting, watching and laughing at Mike screwing-up. He did not know answer to Electro-Chemistry question I asked: name for Res. (I) regulator ckt. he used to control brew Cell current..? Try~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galvanostat Yes, Galvanostat/(Amprostat) are exactly the techniques Bob Beck used in his BE design and also not recognized/understood by Russ at SOTA, or the Lizard Guy in 6V Germ-killer. BTW, Saint Mike is now Persona-non-Grata in Lizard GrOpE...after posting on Chromium? Godzilla always was/is Dangerous to user with Iontophoresis pumping potentially Toxic Ion and while DC Zilla gets Germ Killer results, it pumps Bad (long term) Neuro Toxic, Cu Ions. Of all the so called Zapper technologies over years ( s ago, Doctors safely used almost exactly same DC currents, to then Treat rather than BURN patients...where now 150 years later Ignorant ZILLA users get 3rd-degree BURNS...which bG dismisses, as being only minor skin rash, that will eventually, go away? Saint Michael most likely has never read up on how Doctors safely used Medical currents, but give me until Sunday afternoon and I will post lost secrets URL, after Mike is sleeping? I'll offer you a BIG clue... when pumping (Metallic) Cations, negative trod is always HUGE, Doctors fully understanding (+) (-) trodes are not swappable, ZILLA users kept in DARK! Now in May 2012, Silver Cell is a (childish) JOKE, of plastic-board, hot glue, stolen straws, yet still we cannot Pin-Down source(s) of Contaminationnot seen, IN other...generators? Last I heard...thought it was Sulfur, escaping from Gel-Cell batteries in emergency lighting, but with years of fighting Mold Infestations and Herpes from girl friends Kid, WHO knows..? In (real world) design Engineering, Mike would never have survived past 90-Daze Probation! Not only did Saint Mike Hijack original Question, but he never even answered it, before he proceeded to run on and on, with his own error ridden agenda(s), posting his GrOpE Links. Tony, beware (as you are moderator) in [Beck-n-Stuff] Y-Group...I predict a Saint Mike, will likely try to start preaching about Deadly (chromium) IONS, if using Stainless Steel trode? Just remember, Robert Beck's Dr.Sci degrees are in Physics/(MSEE) and he understood, all ramifications...of using type 316-SS Electrodes with a (4-HZ) Biphasic ION Pump/Trap! If he dares to show up in any BECK groups...I will be glad to lecture...4-HZ/BiPhasic Trap. As we all grow older, hopefully we won't end...like Saint Mike? www.theDASHmovie.com Please Note: I started reply ten hours ago (at Truck Stop) actual Send Time got delayed, so now that I am back, live on-Internet...I see
Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS
Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote: But that kind of circuit is a real pain (if not impossible) to get reliable low current. OK, Tony Tony, The LM317 has a minimum load current of 3.5mA. This is far too high for a typical cs generator. It is also limited to input/output voltage differential of 40V max. This is too low for some cs generators and the LM317 will saturate at the start of the brew. It will mess up the Faraday calculations. However,itis trivial to getastable, precision temperature-compensated constant current source at microampere current levels. All it takes is two resistors, a TL431, and a high voltage npn transistor such as a 2N5550. The 2N5550 will take up to 160V, which is far more than most cs generators will need. I use it with excellent results. It is perfectly stable without bypass capacitors and needs no compensation. The TL431 has internal compensation that determines the open loop gain margin and stability. The load is isolated from the loop since it is in the collector of the 2N5550, and anything you tack on the output cannot affect the loop gain. The circuit is shown in Figure 29, Precision Constant-Current Sink, on page 18 of http://www.tkhifi.com/datablade/tl431.pdf The equation is Rs = 2.5 / Ic where Ic = desired cell current Rs = current setting resistor Note, the current source shown as Figure 28, Precision Current Limiter, on page 17, won't work as a current source. The parts only cost a few pennies. Octopart will help you find vendors. Here is the 2N5550: http://octopart.com/parts/search?q=2n5550 Here is the TL431: http://octopart.com/parts/search?q=tl431 Thanks, Mike -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRife Technology
To all of the electronics folks, I was privileged to have had an ongoing email exchange with Aubrey Scoon of the UK, back in 2001 - 2002. During that time he had access to an original 1939 Beam Ray Machine and reversed engineered it. I used Rife/Bare machines, during this period, and they are a bit persnickity. I no longer own any of them and have one of Bruce Stenulson's units, an older System 6c EM+ model. At the time, this unit, seemed to produce much better results, in terms of treating my sister's breast cancer. No, it wasn't enough, but that isn't what this missive is about. If you are one of the above mentioned electronics folks this is the link to a mirror of Aubrey Soon's site. He died in 2009 at the age of 49 and withdrew from the Rife arena after doing this work. He would never say why. file:///O:/Imprudence/keri_mystiere@inworldz/browser_profile/http://www.rife.de/scoon_memory.html I have no interest in any debate about this subject and will not engage in any. I simply offer this to those who may have in interest in this subject. Perhaps this is widely distributed information today, I don't know. Kind regards, Craig
Re: CSMaking 100% colloidal EIS
Dok Dallas dokdal...@yahoo.com wrote: [... snip crud] Dok, There are two major Beck groups in Yahoo. Both seem to have drifted away from discussions on Zappers. The Beck-n-stuff group with Tony Moody as moderator hasn't had a post regarding Zappers for quite some time. This group has drifted off into EMF shielding against smart meters and tDCS. Both are very unstable ground. So far the discussion on tDCS doesn't seems to realize that electrons cannot flow in an electrolyte. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-n-stuff/messages The Beck-blood-electrification group with BG as the moderator seems to have abandoned Beck altogether and is now into cs, H2O2, and ozone. These are famous traps for the unwary. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-blood-electrification/messages; There was one very interesting post in Beck-blood-electrification that no one seems to have followed up on. I will copy it here for reference: Shingles Message #14394 of 14451 I'm new to electro medicine but I had 2 cases so far where the pain was greatly mitigated by the PEMF. One woman, 80+ yo, in the hospital. We got the unit into her room and she finally got relief from the pain and was able (and wanted) to leave. Another woman who had the shingles pain for 10 years came and did a 20 minute PEMF treatment and the pain greatly subsided for 4 days and then gradually started to return. She returned for another 20 minute session. Interesting. Pat http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-blood-electrification/message/14394?l=1; I have had shingles twice. This post is very interesting and well worth investigating further. But nobody seems to have noticed it. As far as your participation in these groups, your posts in Beck-blood-electrification were similar to your post here and drew many complaints. This may have resulted in your being expelled from the group, since your last post was message 12291 on Sep 21, 2010: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-blood-electrification/message/12291; Your last post in the Beck-n-stuff group was message 43748 on Jul 29, 2011, titled Making CS with a Silver Puppy Question In this post you offered to divulge secret information on EIS/CSilver hide-outs. I think this is generally against the open discussion beliefs that most people practise in these forums. You claim to be a retired design engineer and claim that top LVDC EIS generator designers tend to guard their EOC circuits. Then you make the amazing statemt that EOC/(End-of-Cycle) circuits using constant-current, measure Cell Impedance/(value) between (2) active Silver electrodes...then compare to known set-point to get EOC~ For a given (submerged/wet) electrode surface-area and spacing, at a known-current there will be a (specific) measurable voltage-drop given across Cell to estimate PPM! I believe you are just like most people who are trying to impress others with meaningless babble. You are simply describing Ohm's Law. The equation is V = I * R You will end up with a circuit that is very much like this: http://silvercentral.org/systems/csoff.htm However, this approach has serious limits. As I state at the end: The circuit would function as designed, but the basic concept has a major flaw. Since the curve of cell voltage vs brew time flattens to a plateau near the end of the brew, the cutoff threshold would become critical. Small variations in the purity of distilled water, ambient temperature, or even vibrations from walking across the floor could trigger the cutoff and terminate the brew. This could cause significant variations in ionic strength, or perhaps the threshold might not be reached and the circuit would never shut off. This means the threshold would have to be set considerably higher than the plateau voltage, which means the concentration of ions would be less than the maximum obtainable from the cs generator. However, there is a far better way to do the job. Simply invert the equation and plot the conductance curve instead. Here is an example: http://silvercentral.org/zimag/conduct.gif The significance of this curve is it tells you everything that is happening in the electrolysis process. You can detect contamination, such as silver sulfide, and the point at which the conductance plateaus and you need to terminate the brew. However, this will require a small microprocessor to do the calculation and curve fitting, and it can offer much more detailed information on the health of the cs generator and quality of the cs than was possible before. I hope to bring this
Re: CSMacular Degeneration
I didn't time how long but I would say 30 seconds to several minutes. I read that most accupuncture points can be triggered by treating each ear for only 30 seconds. My knee is still sore after knee replacement and most use of the Leds are treating my knee. Brickey In a message dated 5/4/2012 9:34:31 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, tita_...@yahoo.com writes: Am interested in how long did you treat each eye with LEDs from V. I have V's LEDs too 660-850. Am still trying to figure out how to use it. Am not so sure how many minutes to use on each spot.
Re: CSMacular Degeneration
The warning as I see it is like the warning don' look at the sun. If that was true I would have been blind years ago. I worked with the Navy safety officer and he allowed me to bring my 2 watt low level 904nm laser into the office area as he decided the warning was similar to the sun warning. He did say don't shine it in your eyes. I try to use the 660nm red LEDs for my eyes. Better to ask V why he put the warning on the 880nm unit. I probably better stop using the 880nm or I could go blind. Clark's zapper and Rifes equipment are miles apart. Rife used 90 watts to power a plasma tube with an audio signal to create sidebands, where Clark used flashlight batteries for her zapper. Rifes work was lost because the court would not allow him to patent his kill frequencies, when they were directed to disclose them they did not disclose that sidebands had to be used. His work could not be duplicated until the sideband feature was again discovered. Brickey In a message dated 5/5/2012 6:41:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes: My unit came with a warning NOT to use the 880 on/in eyes, so I am particularly interested how long to use the 880, and from what distance, and whether eyes were closed or open. thanks, sol
CSTesting PPM of ionic silver
Monette M mentioned that ionic silver 20+ PPM is good to take when one is ill. How does one measure ionic silver's ppm. I have both PWT and TDS meters and i understand they measure colloidal silver's particles. Thanks. Melly
Re: CSMacular Degeneration
Yes me too warned not to look at the 880nm unit - wondering how I could position it without looking! - Original Message - From: brick...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 11:00 AM Subject: Re: CSMacular Degeneration The warning as I see it is like the warning don' look at the sun. If that was true I would have been blind years ago. I worked with the Navy safety officer and he allowed me to bring my 2 watt low level 904nm laser into the office area as he decided the warning was similar to the sun warning. He did say don't shine it in your eyes. I try to use the 660nm red LEDs for my eyes. Better to ask V why he put the warning on the 880nm unit. I probably better stop using the 880nm or I could go blind. Clark's zapper and Rifes equipment are miles apart. Rife used 90 watts to power a plasma tube with an audio signal to create sidebands, where Clark used flashlight batteries for her zapper. Rifes work was lost because the court would not allow him to patent his kill frequencies, when they were directed to disclose them they did not disclose that sidebands had to be used. His work could not be duplicated until the sideband feature was again discovered. Brickey In a message dated 5/5/2012 6:41:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes: My unit came with a warning NOT to use the 880 on/in eyes, so I am particularly interested how long to use the 880, and from what distance, and whether eyes were closed or open. thanks, sol No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/4980 - Release Date: 05/05/12
Re: CSMacular Degeneration
Brickey, Hi, you didn't say whether you used the LEDs with eyes open or closed? And from what distance away from your eyes? thanks, sol brick...@aol.com wrote: The warning as I see it is like the warning don' look at the sun. If that was true I would have been blind years ago. I worked with the Navy safety officer and he allowed me to bring my 2 watt low level 904nm laser into the office area as he decided the warning was similar to the sun warning. He did say don't shine it in your eyes. I try to use the 660nm red LEDs for my eyes. Better to ask V why he put the warning on the 880nm unit. I probably better stop using the 880nm or I could go blind. Brickey In a message dated 5/5/2012 6:41:00 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com writes: My unit came with a warning NOT to use the 880 on/in eyes, so I am particularly interested how long to use the 880, and from what distance, and whether eyes were closed or open. thanks, sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
