Dok Dallas <dokdal...@yahoo.com> wrote: [... snip crud]
Dok, There are two major Beck groups in Yahoo. Both seem to have drifted away from discussions on Zappers. The Beck-n-stuff group with Tony Moody as moderator hasn't had a post regarding Zappers for quite some time. This group has drifted off into EMF shielding against smart meters and tDCS. Both are very unstable ground. So far the discussion on tDCS doesn't seems to realize that electrons cannot flow in an electrolyte. http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-n-stuff/messages The Beck-blood-electrification group with BG as the moderator seems to have abandoned Beck altogether and is now into cs, H2O2, and ozone. These are famous traps for the unwary. "http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-blood-electrification/messages"; There was one very interesting post in Beck-blood-electrification that no one seems to have followed up on. I will copy it here for reference: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Shingles Message #14394 of 14451 I'm new to electro medicine but I had 2 cases so far where the pain was greatly mitigated by the PEMF. One woman, 80+ yo, in the hospital. We got the unit into her room and she finally got relief from the pain and was able (and wanted) to leave. Another woman who had the shingles pain for 10 years came and did a 20 minute PEMF treatment and the pain greatly subsided for 4 days and then gradually started to return. She returned for another 20 minute session. Interesting. Pat "http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-blood-electrification/message/14394?l=1"; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I have had shingles twice. This post is very interesting and well worth investigating further. But nobody seems to have noticed it. As far as your participation in these groups, your posts in Beck-blood-electrification were similar to your post here and drew many complaints. This may have resulted in your being expelled from the group, since your last post was message 12291 on Sep 21, 2010: "http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/Beck-blood-electrification/message/12291"; Your last post in the Beck-n-stuff group was message 43748 on Jul 29, 2011, titled "Making CS with a Silver Puppy Question" In this post you offered to divulge secret information on "EIS/CSilver hide-outs". I think this is generally against the open discussion beliefs that most people practise in these forums. You claim to be a retired design engineer and claim that top LVDC EIS generator designers tend to guard their EOC circuits. Then you make the amazing statemt that "EOC/(End-of-Cycle) circuits using constant-current, measure Cell Impedance/(value) between (2) active Silver electrodes...then compare to known set-point to get EOC~ For a given (submerged/wet) electrode surface-area and spacing, at a known-current there will be a (specific) measurable voltage-drop given across Cell to estimate PPM!" I believe you are just like most people who are trying to impress others with meaningless babble. You are simply describing Ohm's Law. The equation is V = I * R You will end up with a circuit that is very much like this: http://silvercentral.org/systems/csoff.htm However, this approach has serious limits. As I state at the end: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The circuit would function as designed, but the basic concept has a major flaw. Since the curve of cell voltage vs brew time flattens to a plateau near the end of the brew, the cutoff threshold would become critical. Small variations in the purity of distilled water, ambient temperature, or even vibrations from walking across the floor could trigger the cutoff and terminate the brew. This could cause significant variations in ionic strength, or perhaps the threshold might not be reached and the circuit would never shut off." "This means the threshold would have to be set considerably higher than the plateau voltage, which means the concentration of ions would be less than the maximum obtainable from the cs generator." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ However, there is a far better way to do the job. Simply invert the equation and plot the conductance curve instead. Here is an example: http://silvercentral.org/zimag/conduct.gif The significance of this curve is it tells you everything that is happening in the electrolysis process. You can detect contamination, such as silver sulfide, and the point at which the conductance plateaus and you need to terminate the brew. However, this will require a small microprocessor to do the calculation and curve fitting, and it can offer much more detailed information on the health of the cs generator and quality of the cs than was possible before. I hope to bring this to market in the near future, but I will post free plans for a manual version you can make for very little cost. In the meantime, any time you want to talk circuits and systems, let me know. Thanks, Mike Monett -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: <mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe> Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com>
