Re: CS Liposomal Vit. C Protocol

2012-05-21 Thread Ole Alstrup
Much obliged Harold!


A few short questions;


Water - can it be low TDS springwater? Room temp or hotter?

Lecithin - granules or powder?

Vitamin C - Acorbic acid crystals, what about ascorbates?

Mixing - will the mix completely dissolve on its own while in the machine?
How do you clean the machine afterwards?

Many thanks,

Ole 





 From: Harold har...@telus.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, 20 May 2012, 23:02
Subject: CS Liposomal Vit. C Protocol
 

  
This is the way I do it with good 
results.
Harold
 
From Silver 
Archives;
In our recent researches evaluating this 
technology and, consequently, in searching for possible process 
improvements/modifications which might facilitate the lay person an 
opportunity for a DIY methodology achievable in a home environment---we did 
achieve some notable progress. First, a brief summary of our exploratory 
activity. Our literature searches revealed several companies actively 
exhibiting 
valid capability in this area (LET). Typical, and demonstrably capable, is a 
company named MICROTEK. Microteklabs.com Helpful information is available here. 
One fact became obvious, early on, to wit: The truly striking feature of LET 
was 
a NATURALLY-occurring characteristic.. and not a man-made process, that was 
driving this encapsulation process. That is, this process is a function of an 
automatic, natural tendency of certain substances (e.g. phospholipids in this 
case) to form tiny vacoules or bubbles---called liposomeswhen in a aqueous 
solution under certain conditions.  The keystone activity is that these 
liposomes automatically fill themselves with whatever aqueous solution they 
were 
inbefore they were formed. This type of bubble, called a membrane, forms a 
protective barrier around virtually every cell in the human body. Livon Labs 
has perfected a process which employs a high-pressure (1700 p.s.i.) discharge 
system which directs a liquid stream against a forming plate. The high impact 
forces the phospholipids (soy lecithin in this case) to form liposomesso 
small they require an electrom microscope for viewing. This technology does not 
create the LET activityit just enhances it. In our personal researches we 
have determined the key to exploiting the LET phenomenon appeared to be Livon's 
application of intense force in their mixing methodology. Enter the 
enlightening moment. Searching for a method of achieving liposomal 
encapsulation, it occurred to us to explore ultrasonic stimulation as an 
option. 
It worked...maybe not quite as well as Livon's high tech brute force 
approach...but about 70% as well. Plenty efficient for our purposes. Our 
vitamin 
C liposomal encapsulation protocol is as follows: Using a small (2 cup) 
Ultrasonic cleaner, (Item #03305, obtainable from Harbor Freight @ about 
$30.00), we performed the following: 1. Dissolved 3 level tablespoons of soy 
lecithin in 1 cup of water (preferably distilled). 2. Dissolved 1 level 
tablespoon of ascorbic acid powder (Vit. C) in 1/2 cup of water. 3. Poured 
both solutions together in the ultrasonic cleaner bowl and turned the unit on. 
Using a plastic straw (leaving the top of the cleaner opened), gently, slowly, 
stirred the contents. Note: The cleaner will, automatically, self-stop about 
every 2 minutes. Just push ON button to continue. Repeat for a total of 3 
series 
(6 minutes). By that time the entire solution should be blended into a cloudy, 
homogeneous, milk-like mixture. The LET solution is now formed. 4. This 
protocol 
furnishes about 12 grams (12000mg.) of vitamin C product. At 70% encapsulation 
efficiency, 8400 mg would be of the LET type. This solution will keep, 
acceptably, at room temperature for 3 to 4 days. Refrigerated, it will keep 
much 
longer. We use it so fast around our place...there isn't enough left to be 
concerned over storage. The homogenizing effect is so powerful that after 3 
days at room temperature, no precipitation or solution separation appears 
evident. This type of sequestered vitamin C has demonstrated to be, at least 
5 
times more effective (per volumetric measure) than any other form of 
orally-ingested vitamin cthat we have tested. Additionally, it appears to 
be even more rapid in tissue-bed availabilitythan IV applications. An 
astounding revelationto us. We estimate the DIY researcher can produce the 
active LET portion of this solution for 15 cents per gramas against about 
$1.00 per gram from commerci! al sources. It is my hope that this, limited, 
explanation of our activities in this area, is of some value to our 
do-it-yourself health-maintenance researchers. In any event, this protocol has 
demonstrated to be n on-toxic and most helpful to OUR RESEARCHES. Sincerely, 
Brooks Bradley. p.s. A larger, more powerful, ultrasonic cleaner is now 
available at Harbor Freight. Item number 91593. 2+ liters, for about $60.00. 
Both units have performed quite well 

Re: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread sol
Years ago I got a big blister on my heel, it had broken of course, by 
the time I got home from my walk. I soaked the thing with CS best I 
could, spread the loose skin over the raw, and covered with a bandaid I 
kept wet with CS. The loose skin actually re-attached.


I prefer to use a sterile needle to drain blisters if I have the chance, 
rather than wait for them to tear.

sol


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Re: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread Sandee George
Thanks MA for this one, you will find it on my website - keep on  
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Re: CSSilver PH

2012-05-21 Thread Alan Jones
I emailed the web site and have not heard back; I don't really expect to.

But Dr. Shallenberger's book Bursting with Energy is on Amazon, and
Amazon allows a preview of the book.

The chapter on water indicates your should drink a quarter to a half ounce
of water for each pound of body weight.  (eg. a 200lb person would consume
50-100 ounces per day)

This sounds much more reasonable than 3-6 gallons per day!

-Alan


On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Tony Moody a...@new.co.za wrote:

 Don't know but that amount seems awfully high. An american quart is about
 a litre so 12 litres
 would be way too much in my book . Round about 2 litres on average would
 be a good
 ballpark. Errm maybe it should be 2 quarts , not 12 ??

 Why not ask them ?

 Tony

 On 17 May 2012 at 6:21, Alan Jones wrote about :
 Subject : Re: CSSilver  PH

  Thanks Tony.  I found the following web site of his.  This sounds insane
  to me -- how is this even possible?  Could it be a typo??
 
  http://www.burstingwithenergy.net/water.php
 
  · Every adult should drink at least 12 quarts per day of purified water.
  On hot days or when exercising, twice that amount may be needed.


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Re: CSSilver PH

2012-05-21 Thread Sandee George
Agreed Alan - I weigh 150 lbs and have always thought 8 glasses was  
good, now I know !!!

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RE: CSSilver PH --A CASE HISTORY ON H20

2012-05-21 Thread Judy Knowlton
I discovered I was chronically dehydrated 4 years
ago at age 72) and decided to follow the rule:
Halve your weight;
Divide by eight;
Drink those glasses
and meditate.
At 168 pounds I take basic supplements and
vitamins, low on sugar and milk products, no beef,
high on fish, no alcohol for 42 years,
and drink 10 8-oz glasses of water per day -- half
before noon.
In the past 4 years, blood pressure down, eyesight
improved, memory better, sleeping better, only
minor aches and pains,
attitude more positive, lost over 50 pounds (not
dieting) .
I sat with 3 other 76 year old women at my kitchen
table just this morning.
2 had cancer operations, one with eyesight
difficulties, a rod in the brain for severe
tremors, all with aches and pains, hobbling along.
None really overweight. I've known them for 32 to
76 years.
Oh yeah -- and I make my own CS, use when
necessary (not often)
Why the difference?
Judy Down Maine

 -Original Message-
From: Alan Jones [mailto:alanmjo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 1:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSSilver  PH



I emailed the web site and have not heard back; I
don't really expect to.


But Dr. Shallenberger's book Bursting with
Energy is on Amazon, and Amazon allows a preview
of the book.


The chapter on water indicates your should drink a
quarter to a half ounce of water for each pound of
body weight.  (eg. a 200lb person would consume
50-100 ounces per day)


This sounds much more reasonable than 3-6 gallons
per day!


-Alan



On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Tony Moody
a...@new.co.za wrote:

  Don't know but that amount seems awfully high.
An american quart is about a litre so 12 litres
  would be way too much in my book . Round about 2
litres on average would be a good
  ballpark. Errm maybe it should be 2 quarts , not
12 ??

  Why not ask them ?

  Tony

  On 17 May 2012 at 6:21, Alan Jones wrote about :

  Subject : Re: CSSilver  PH

   Thanks Tony.  I found the following web site
of his.  This sounds insane
   to me -- how is this even possible?  Could it
be a typo??
  
   http://www.burstingwithenergy.net/water.php
  
   · Every adult should drink at least 12 quarts
per day of purified water.
   On hot days or when exercising, twice that
amount may be needed.


--
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by
the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the
States, are reserved to the States respectively,
or to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US
Constitution)


Re: CSSilver PH --A CASE HISTORY ON H20

2012-05-21 Thread Sandee George
Congrats Judy, way to go for good olde age Totally in  
agreement !!!

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Re: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread Marshall
It is difficult to beat the combination of aloe and colloidal silver.  
The colloidal silver allows cells to dedifferentate into stem cells so 
healing can take place rapidly and without scarring, and the aloe 
supplies nutrients so tissue can survive even without any blood for 
hours or days.


Marshall

On 5/20/2012 2:19 PM, Kirsteen Wright wrote:
CS is fine, Aloe vera gel is fantastic, even yoghurt will help cool 
them. Coconut oil is great too. Are the blisters burst or not?


Kirsteen

On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Lisa blacksa...@comcast.net 
mailto:blacksa...@comcast.net wrote:


My 6yr old son just came back from a T-ball game and has blisters
on the top of his ears…sunburn obviously.

What can I put on them to take care of them

Lisa






Re: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread Marshall

On 5/20/2012 1:26 PM, Lisa wrote:


My 6yr old son just came back from a T-ball game and has blisters on 
the top of his ears...sunburn obviously.


What can I put on them to take care of them

Lisa


Colloidal silver works wonders on burns, even sunburn.

Marshall


Re: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread Sandee George
Marshall you are spot on, when I went to Melbourne to learn the  
process I sampled a gel which was exactly what you have stated and boy  
did it work, no longer can it be found - thanks to the powers of be in  
that country - sad we loose yet again !!!

Regards
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Re: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread Alan Jones
Do you actually mix them together, or are they used separately?

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

 **
 It is difficult to beat the combination of aloe and colloidal silver.  The
 colloidal silver allows cells to dedifferentate into stem cells so healing
 can take place rapidly and without scarring, and the aloe supplies
 nutrients so tissue can survive even without any blood for hours or days.

 Marshall

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Re: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread Marshall
Mix them together to form a gel.  Use immediately.  If you plan on 
mixing and not using for a day or two, add sufficient baking soda to 
bring pH to around 7, or the silver will aggregate rather quickly.


Marshall

On 5/21/2012 3:07 PM, Alan Jones wrote:

Do you actually mix them together, or are they used separately?

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com 
mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:


It is difficult to beat the combination of aloe and colloidal
silver.  The colloidal silver allows cells to dedifferentate into
stem cells so healing can take place rapidly and without scarring,
and the aloe supplies nutrients so tissue can survive even without
any blood for hours or days.

Marshall

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nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States 
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Re: CSSilver PH

2012-05-21 Thread 123 456
Yikes!
 on that Arm  Hammer bicarb stuff!!
Run to the nearest Helath Food store and buy the bicrb there please
The Arm  Hammer has alumina sulphate in it,
no matter WHAT they say on the package.
I'd rather trust my neigbourhood health food person than a supermarket
or drug store
if it's me.
T

On 5/21/12, Sandee George oha...@juno.com wrote:
 Agreed Alan - I weigh 150 lbs and have always thought 8 glasses was
 good, now I know !!!
 Thanks
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Re: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread Sandee George
I did not produce the alloe/EIS gel it was being produced by another -  
I personally have never tried it, however knowing
what I do about aloe I will not give that one a try - I was surprised  
that they lived together in the gel which i saw, tried and

saw for sale 
However as stated it has gone from the shelves !!!
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Re: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread Sandee George
Exactly Marshall which is why I chose not to try it - however thanks  
for the possible solution, as per usual, you are a gem !!!

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Re: CSSilver PH

2012-05-21 Thread Alan Jones
do you have any evidence to support this?

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yikes!
  on that Arm  Hammer bicarb stuff!!
 Run to the nearest Helath Food store and buy the bicrb there please
 The Arm  Hammer has alumina sulphate in it,
 no matter WHAT they say on the package.
 I'd rather trust my neigbourhood health food person than a supermarket
 or drug store
 if it's me.
 T


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Re: CSSilver PH

2012-05-21 Thread Marshall
Bicarbonate of soda is a chemical, and a very cheap one at that.  It is 
NaHCO3.  If it contains anything else, it is mislabeled and subject to 
prosecution  by the FDA.  I don't know where this rumor came from that 
it would contain anything else, certainly not alumina sulfate which 
would be an expensive ingredient that would ruin the product.  The test 
for aluminum sulfate is to mix it with sodium hydroxide, sodium 
carbonate, or sodium bi-carbonate.  If aluminum sulfate is there it 
forms a white precipitate and produces CO2.  So, if it is there, all you 
have to do it mix it with water, and it will foam producing carbon 
dioxide, and a white precipitate forms.  I have mixed  AH with water 
many times and no CO2 or precipitate is formed, thus there is no 
aluminum sulfate in there.


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_sodium_bicarbonate_or_baking_soda_contain_aluminum

Marshall

On 5/21/2012 3:38 PM, Alan Jones wrote:

do you have any evidence to support this?

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com 
mailto:whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:


Yikes!
 on that Arm  Hammer bicarb stuff!!
Run to the nearest Helath Food store and buy the bicrb there please
The Arm  Hammer has alumina sulphate in it,
no matter WHAT they say on the package.
I'd rather trust my neigbourhood health food person than a supermarket
or drug store
if it's me.
T


--
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, 
nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States 
respectively, or to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)




Re: CSSilver PH

2012-05-21 Thread kagi
Who would gain financially from this rumor?  
Follow the money?


From: Marshall 
Sent: Monday, 21 May, 2012 15:10
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CSSilver  PH

 
I don't know where this rumor came from that it would contain anything else, ...


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_sodium_bicarbonate_or_baking_soda_contain_aluminum

Marshall

On 5/21/2012 3:38 PM, Alan Jones wrote: 
  do you have any evidence to support this?

  -Alan


  On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:

Yikes!
on that Arm  Hammer bicarb stuff!!
Run to the nearest Helath Food store and buy the bicrb there please
The Arm  Hammer has alumina sulphate in it,
no matter WHAT they say on the package.
I'd rather trust my neigbourhood health food person than a supermarket
or drug store
if it's me.
T



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prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to 
the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)




Re: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread Guyot Léna

Hi Marshall,
I'm trying to understand the dynamic of this, as I've had trouble  
mixing some substances in the past. I've made a CS gel from a gel kit  
offered by the Silver Puppy folks. Does the b.s. alkalinity act as an  
emulsifier?


Presently, my challenge is this: I like to make a creme of shea butter  
and DMSO, which works really well on areas of pain where straight DMSO  
would too easily dry the skin. I stir them together to create ever- 
smaller  pockets of DMSO within the softened shea butter, but it's  
still pretty inconsistent, as oil and 'water' don't mix. Do you have  
any suggestions for making this creme more consistent without limiting  
the effectiveness of either ingredient? Thanks!


Be well,
Léna
On May 21, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Marshall wrote:

Mix them together to form a gel.  Use immediately.  If you plan on  
mixing and not using for a day or two, add sufficient baking soda to  
bring pH to around 7, or the silver will aggregate rather quickly.


Marshall

On 5/21/2012 3:07 PM, Alan Jones wrote:


Do you actually mix them together, or are they used separately?

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com  
wrote:
It is difficult to beat the combination of aloe and colloidal  
silver.  The colloidal silver allows cells to dedifferentate into  
stem cells so healing can take place rapidly and without scarring,  
and the aloe supplies nutrients so tissue can survive even without  
any blood for hours or days.


Marshall

--
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,  
nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States  
respectively, or to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US  
Constitution)





Re: CSSilver PH

2012-05-21 Thread Guyot Léna

Hi Marshall,
I think this whole myth began when some baking POWDERS had alumina  
sulfate.


Be well,
Léna
On May 21, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Marshall wrote:

Bicarbonate of soda is a chemical, and a very cheap one at that.  It  
is NaHCO3.  If it contains anything else, it is mislabeled and subject  
to prosecution  by the FDA.  I don't know where this rumor came from  
that it would contain anything else, certainly not alumina sulfate  
which would be an expensive ingredient that would ruin the 
product.  The test for aluminum sulfate is to mix it with sodium  
hydroxide, sodium carbonate, or sodium bi-carbonate.  If aluminum  
sulfate is there it forms a white precipitate and produces CO2.  So,  
if it is there, all you have to do it mix it with water, and it will  
foam producing carbon dioxide, and a white precipitate forms.  I have  
mixed  AH with water many times and no CO2 or precipitate is formed,  
thus there is no aluminum sulfate in there.


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_sodium_bicarbonate_or_baking_soda_contain_aluminum

Marshall

On 5/21/2012 3:38 PM, Alan Jones wrote:


do you have any evidence to support this?

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:
Yikes!
 on that Arm  Hammer bicarb stuff!!
Run to the nearest Helath Food store and buy the bicrb there please
The Arm  Hammer has alumina sulphate in it,
no matter WHAT they say on the package.
I'd rather trust my neigbourhood health food person than a supermarket
or drug store
if it's me.
T


--
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,  
nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States  
respectively, or to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US  
Constitution)





Re: CSSilver PH

2012-05-21 Thread Alan Jones
I also think Bob's Red Mill brand propagates the rumor by stating
aluminum free! on it's label, implying not-so-subtly that the other
products DO have aluminum.

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Guyot Léna drumr...@stny.rr.com wrote:

 Hi Marshall,
 I think this whole myth began when some baking POWDERS had alumina sulfate.

 Be well,
 Léna

 On May 21, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Marshall wrote:

  Bicarbonate of soda is a chemical, and a very cheap one at that.  It is
 NaHCO3.  If it contains anything else, it is mislabeled and subject to
 prosecution  by the FDA.  I don't know where this rumor came from that it
 would contain anything else, certainly not alumina sulfate which would be
 an expensive ingredient that would ruin the product.  The test for aluminum
 sulfate is to mix it with sodium hydroxide, sodium carbonate, or sodium
 bi-carbonate.  If aluminum sulfate is there it forms a white precipitate
 and produces CO2.  So, if it is there, all you have to do it mix it with
 water, and it will foam producing carbon dioxide, and a white precipitate
 forms.  I have mixed  AH with water many times and no CO2 or precipitate
 is formed, thus there is no aluminum sulfate in there.


 http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_sodium_bicarbonate_or_baking_soda_contain_aluminum

 Marshall

 On 5/21/2012 3:38 PM, Alan Jones wrote:

 do you have any evidence to support this?

 -Alan

 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yikes!
  on that Arm  Hammer bicarb stuff!!
 Run to the nearest Helath Food store and buy the bicrb there please
 The Arm  Hammer has alumina sulphate in it,
 no matter WHAT they say on the package.
 I'd rather trust my neigbourhood health food person than a supermarket
 or drug store
 if it's me.
 T


 --
 Alan Jones

 The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
 prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
 to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)






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to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)


RE: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread PTFerrance
Hi Lena,

I’m not Marshall and to be sure do not have his chemical background but if I
were trying to do what you are trying to do I would try a bit of lecithin to
emulsify the mixture.  I’ve had good luck with this in the past.  Don’t know
what the shelf life would be, however.

PT

 

From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSQuick help needed please!

 

Hi Marshall,

I'm trying to understand the dynamic of this, as I've had trouble mixing
some substances in the past. I've made a CS gel from a gel kit offered by
the Silver Puppy folks. Does the b.s. alkalinity act as an emulsifier?

 

Presently, my challenge is this: I like to make a creme of shea butter and
DMSO, which works really well on areas of pain where straight DMSO would too
easily dry the skin. I stir them together to create ever-smaller  pockets of
DMSO within the softened shea butter, but it's still pretty inconsistent, as
oil and 'water' don't mix. Do you have any suggestions for making this creme
more consistent without limiting the effectiveness of either ingredient?
Thanks!

 

Be well,

Léna

On May 21, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Marshall wrote:

 

Mix them together to form a gel.  Use immediately.  If you plan on mixing
and not using for a day or two, add sufficient baking soda to bring pH to
around 7, or the silver will aggregate rather quickly.

Marshall

On 5/21/2012 3:07 PM, Alan Jones wrote: 

Do you actually mix them together, or are they used separately? 

 

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

It is difficult to beat the combination of aloe and colloidal silver.  The
colloidal silver allows cells to dedifferentate into stem cells so healing
can take place rapidly and without scarring, and the aloe supplies nutrients
so tissue can survive even without any blood for hours or days.

Marshall 

 

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Re: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread Marshall
Basically colloidal silver is most stable at a pH of 7.  If you increase 
or decrease the pH, it becomes less stable, and at some point 
aggregation will take place.  Aloe Vera tends to be rather acidic, so 
neutralizing it makes it last longer.


I really don't have any experience with emulsions or shea butter.  Sorry.

Marshall

On 5/21/2012 4:32 PM, Guyot Léna wrote:
e past. I've made a CS gel from a gel kit offered by the Silver Puppy 
folks. Does the b.s. alkalinity act as an emulsifier?
Presently, my challenge is this: I like to make a creme of shea butter 
and DMSO, which works really well on areas of pain where straight DMSO 
would too easily dry the skin. I stir them together to create 
ever-smaller  pockets of DMSO within the softened shea butter, but 
it's still pretty inconsistent, as oil and 'water' don't mix. Do you 
have any suggestions for making this creme more consistent without 
limiting the effectiveness of either ingredient? Thanks!


Be well,




Re: CSSilver PH

2012-05-21 Thread Marshall
Most baking powders contain sodium aluminum sulfate, but that is 
something completely different.  It is there specifically to make it 
fizz when water is added.


Marshall

On 5/21/2012 4:39 PM, Guyot Léna wrote:

Hi Marshall,
I think this whole myth began when some baking POWDERS had alumina 
sulfate.


Be well,
Léna
On May 21, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Marshall wrote:

Bicarbonate of soda is a chemical, and a very cheap one at that.  It 
is NaHCO3.  If it contains anything else, it is mislabeled and subject 
to prosecution  by the FDA.  I don't know where this rumor came from 
that it would contain anything else, certainly not alumina sulfate 
which would be an expensive ingredient that would ruin the product.  
The test for aluminum sulfate is to mix it with sodium hydroxide, 
sodium carbonate, or sodium bi-carbonate.  If aluminum sulfate is 
there it forms a white precipitate and produces CO2.  So, if it is 
there, all you have to do it mix it with water, and it will foam 
producing carbon dioxide, and a white precipitate forms.  I have 
mixed  AH with water many times and no CO2 or precipitate is formed, 
thus there is no aluminum sulfate in there.


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_sodium_bicarbonate_or_baking_soda_contain_aluminum

Marshall

On 5/21/2012 3:38 PM, Alan Jones wrote:

do you have any evidence to support this?

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com 
mailto:whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:


Yikes!
 on that Arm  Hammer bicarb stuff!!
Run to the nearest Helath Food store and buy the bicrb there please
The Arm  Hammer has alumina sulphate in it,
no matter WHAT they say on the package.
I'd rather trust my neigbourhood health food person than a
supermarket
or drug store
if it's me.
T


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Re: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread Marshall

That sounds like a good idea, lecithin is an excellent emulsifier.

Marshall

On 5/21/2012 4:46 PM, PTFerrance wrote:


Hi Lena,

I'm not Marshall and to be sure do not have his chemical background 
but if I were trying to do what you are trying to do I would try a bit 
of lecithin to emulsify the mixture.  I've had good luck with this in 
the past.  Don't know what the shelf life would be, however.


PT

*From:*Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
*Sent:* Monday, May 21, 2012 4:32 PM
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: CSQuick help needed please!

Hi Marshall,

I'm trying to understand the dynamic of this, as I've had trouble 
mixing some substances in the past. I've made a CS gel from a gel kit 
offered by the Silver Puppy folks. Does the b.s. alkalinity act as an 
emulsifier?


Presently, my challenge is this: I like to make a creme of shea butter 
and DMSO, which works really well on areas of pain where straight DMSO 
would too easily dry the skin. I stir them together to create 
ever-smaller  pockets of DMSO within the softened shea butter, but 
it's still pretty inconsistent, as oil and 'water' don't mix. Do you 
have any suggestions for making this creme more consistent without 
limiting the effectiveness of either ingredient? Thanks!


Be well,

Léna

On May 21, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Marshall wrote:

Mix them together to form a gel.  Use immediately.  If you plan on 
mixing and not using for a day or two, add sufficient baking soda to 
bring pH to around 7, or the silver will aggregate rather quickly.


Marshall

On 5/21/2012 3:07 PM, Alan Jones wrote:

Do you actually mix them together, or are they used separately?

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com 
mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:


It is difficult to beat the combination of aloe and colloidal silver.  
The colloidal silver allows cells to dedifferentate into stem cells so 
healing can take place rapidly and without scarring, and the aloe 
supplies nutrients so tissue can survive even without any blood for 
hours or days.


Marshall

--
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, 
nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States 
respectively, or to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)


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Re: CSSilver PH

2012-05-21 Thread 123 456
Sorry guys,
but my $$$ will still support the health food stores I have come ot
know and trust.
Supermarkets they are not and cetainly not big pharms either.
T

On 5/21/12, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
 Most baking powders contain sodium aluminum sulfate, but that is
 something completely different.  It is there specifically to make it
 fizz when water is added.

 Marshall

 On 5/21/2012 4:39 PM, Guyot Léna wrote:
 Hi Marshall,
 I think this whole myth began when some baking POWDERS had alumina
 sulfate.

 Be well,
 Léna
 On May 21, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Marshall wrote:

 Bicarbonate of soda is a chemical, and a very cheap one at that.  It
 is NaHCO3.  If it contains anything else, it is mislabeled and subject
 to prosecution  by the FDA.  I don't know where this rumor came from
 that it would contain anything else, certainly not alumina sulfate
 which would be an expensive ingredient that would ruin the product.
 The test for aluminum sulfate is to mix it with sodium hydroxide,
 sodium carbonate, or sodium bi-carbonate.  If aluminum sulfate is
 there it forms a white precipitate and produces CO2.  So, if it is
 there, all you have to do it mix it with water, and it will foam
 producing carbon dioxide, and a white precipitate forms.  I have
 mixed  AH with water many times and no CO2 or precipitate is formed,
 thus there is no aluminum sulfate in there.

 http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_sodium_bicarbonate_or_baking_soda_contain_aluminum

 Marshall

 On 5/21/2012 3:38 PM, Alan Jones wrote:
 do you have any evidence to support this?

 -Alan

 On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 2:21 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com
 mailto:whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Yikes!
  on that Arm  Hammer bicarb stuff!!
 Run to the nearest Helath Food store and buy the bicrb there please
 The Arm  Hammer has alumina sulphate in it,
 no matter WHAT they say on the package.
 I'd rather trust my neigbourhood health food person than a
 supermarket
 or drug store
 if it's me.
 T


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 Alan Jones

 The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,
 nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States
 respectively, or to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US
 Constitution)






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Re: CSSilver PH

2012-05-21 Thread Alan Jones
you are conflating 2 different and distinct ideas (aluminum in BS and
supporting health food stores)

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 4:24 PM, 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry guys,
 but my $$$ will still support the health food stores I have come ot
 know and trust.
 Supermarkets they are not and cetainly not big pharms either.
 T

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CSA Silver Wound Product

2012-05-21 Thread Pam Wanveer
Just got an email for this product and thought I would share.  Anyone heard of 
it?

http://www.silverquine.com/wounddressing

Cheers, Pam

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Re: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread Guyot Léna

Hi PT,
That's a great suggestion! Would you use granules or liquid? We  
incorporate lecithin granules in our daily smoothies. Thanks,

Be well,
Léna
On May 21, 2012, at 4:46 PM, PTFerrance wrote:

Hi Lena,
I’m not Marshall and to be sure do not have his chemical background  
but if I were trying to do what you are trying to do I would try a bit  
of lecithin to emulsify the mixture.  I’ve had good luck with this in  
the past.  Don’t know what the shelf life would be, however.

PT

From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSQuick help needed please!

Hi Marshall,
I'm trying to understand the dynamic of this, as I've had trouble  
mixing some substances in the past. I've made a CS gel from a gel kit  
offered by the Silver Puppy folks. Does the b.s. alkalinity act as an  
emulsifier?


Presently, my challenge is this: I like to make a creme of shea butter  
and DMSO, which works really well on areas of pain where straight DMSO  
would too easily dry the skin. I stir them together to create ever- 
smaller  pockets of DMSO within the softened shea butter, but it's  
still pretty inconsistent, as oil and 'water' don't mix. Do you have  
any suggestions for making this creme more consistent without limiting  
the effectiveness of either ingredient? Thanks!


Be well,
Léna
On May 21, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Marshall wrote:

Mix them together to form a gel.  Use immediately.  If you plan on  
mixing and not using for a day or two, add sufficient baking soda to  
bring pH to around 7, or the silver will aggregate rather quickly.


Marshall

On 5/21/2012 3:07 PM, Alan Jones wrote:
Do you actually mix them together, or are they used separately?

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:
It is difficult to beat the combination of aloe and colloidal silver.   
The colloidal silver allows cells to dedifferentate into stem cells so  
healing can take place rapidly and without scarring, and the aloe  
supplies nutrients so tissue can survive even without any blood for  
hours or days.


Marshall

--
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution,  
nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States  
respectively, or to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US  
Constitution)



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CSBaking soda

2012-05-21 Thread Melly Bag
I have come across an article once that Arm and Hammer baking soda is from 
Trona Mine.  This baking soda is processed from soda ash from Trona  ore (used 
for making glass also, fiberglass, etc.).   I don'at know which Trona mine AH 
sources their soda ash.
 
Not all Trona mines are good though.  Some could have petroleum industry 
pollutions through leaks.
 
Melly
 
 
 

RE: CSQuick help needed please!

2012-05-21 Thread PTFerrance
Sorry, I would have to experiment.  I keep granules in the house but don’t
know if they would dissolve in the DMSO before you mixed it with the shea
butter.

Let us know what happens, will you?

PT

 

From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 6:09 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSQuick help needed please!

 

Hi PT,

That's a great suggestion! Would you use granules or liquid? We incorporate
lecithin granules in our daily smoothies. Thanks,

Be well,

Léna

On May 21, 2012, at 4:46 PM, PTFerrance wrote:





Hi Lena,

I’m not Marshall and to be sure do not have his chemical background but if I
were trying to do what you are trying to do I would try a bit of lecithin to
emulsify the mixture.  I’ve had good luck with this in the past.  Don’t know
what the shelf life would be, however.

PT

 

From: Guyot Léna [mailto:drumr...@stny.rr.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSQuick help needed please!

 

Hi Marshall,

I'm trying to understand the dynamic of this, as I've had trouble mixing
some substances in the past. I've made a CS gel from a gel kit offered by
the Silver Puppy folks. Does the b.s. alkalinity act as an emulsifier?

 

Presently, my challenge is this: I like to make a creme of shea butter and
DMSO, which works really well on areas of pain where straight DMSO would too
easily dry the skin. I stir them together to create ever-smaller  pockets of
DMSO within the softened shea butter, but it's still pretty inconsistent, as
oil and 'water' don't mix. Do you have any suggestions for making this creme
more consistent without limiting the effectiveness of either ingredient?
Thanks!

 

Be well,

Léna

On May 21, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Marshall wrote:

 

Mix them together to form a gel.  Use immediately.  If you plan on mixing
and not using for a day or two, add sufficient baking soda to bring pH to
around 7, or the silver will aggregate rather quickly.

Marshall

On 5/21/2012 3:07 PM, Alan Jones wrote:

Do you actually mix them together, or are they used separately?

 

-Alan

On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

It is difficult to beat the combination of aloe and colloidal silver.  The
colloidal silver allows cells to dedifferentate into stem cells so healing
can take place rapidly and without scarring, and the aloe supplies nutrients
so tissue can survive even without any blood for hours or days.

Marshall

 

-- 
Alan Jones

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor
prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or
to the people.  (Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution)

 

 

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CSA question, please

2012-05-21 Thread Bernadette Burch

I made CS today, but had to leave the house while it was bubbling.  I asked my 
husband to turn it off about an hour after I left.  Needless to say, he forgot. 
 My TDS meter is registering 61.1.  My question is should I throw this away.  I 
drink my CS at a reading of 6 to 12.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  
Thank you.

B.

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RE: CSA question, please

2012-05-21 Thread Trem
Shows that bubbling is poor practice.  Adds nitrogen to the water increasing
PPM readings.  Probably a Silver Edge unitright?

Trem



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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSA question, please


I made CS today, but had to leave the house while it was bubbling.  I asked
my husband to turn it off about an hour after I left.  Needless to say, he
forgot.  My TDS meter is registering 61.1.  My question is should I throw
this away.  I drink my CS at a reading of 6 to 12.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated.  Thank you.

B.

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Re: CSA question, please

2012-05-21 Thread Bernadette Burch


 No Brooks made it for me.  

On May 21, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote:

Shows that bubbling is poor practice.  Adds nitrogen to the water increasing
PPM readings.  Probably a Silver Edge unitright?

Trem



-Original Message-
From: Bernadette Burch [mailto:bernade...@pa.net] 
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSA question, please


I made CS today, but had to leave the house while it was bubbling.  I asked
my husband to turn it off about an hour after I left.  Needless to say, he
forgot.  My TDS meter is registering 61.1.  My question is should I throw
this away.  I drink my CS at a reading of 6 to 12.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated.  Thank you.

B.

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RE: CSA question, please

2012-05-21 Thread Trem
Sorry, didn't know anyone besides the one mentioned that made a bubbler
unit.

Trem



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Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 5:13 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSA question, please



 No Brooks made it for me.  

On May 21, 2012, at 8:11 PM, Trem t...@silvergen.com wrote:

Shows that bubbling is poor practice.  Adds nitrogen to the water increasing
PPM readings.  Probably a Silver Edge unitright?

Trem



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From: Bernadette Burch [mailto:bernade...@pa.net]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSA question, please


I made CS today, but had to leave the house while it was bubbling.  I asked
my husband to turn it off about an hour after I left.  Needless to say, he
forgot.  My TDS meter is registering 61.1.  My question is should I throw
this away.  I drink my CS at a reading of 6 to 12.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated.  Thank you.

B.

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Re: CSA question, please

2012-05-21 Thread Marshall
It can add nitrogen, if there are nitrides in the air, such as during a 
thunderstorm, or if you have smog.  It will definitely add CO2 producing 
silver carbonate though.


Marshall

On 5/21/2012 8:11 PM, Trem wrote:

Shows that bubbling is poor practice.  Adds nitrogen to the water increasing
PPM readings.  Probably a Silver Edge unitright?

Trem



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From: Bernadette Burch [mailto:bernade...@pa.net]
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:26 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSA question, please


I made CS today, but had to leave the house while it was bubbling.  I asked
my husband to turn it off about an hour after I left.  Needless to say, he
forgot.  My TDS meter is registering 61.1.  My question is should I throw
this away.  I drink my CS at a reading of 6 to 12.  Any suggestions would be
appreciated.  Thank you.

B.

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RE: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations

2012-05-21 Thread PTFerrance
Hi Renee,
Would you share how you make the essences?
Thanks.
PT

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From: Renee [mailto:gaiac...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 9:04 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations

And me. :)  I've made just over 100 different essences from the native texas
flowers.  I just love essences.  They are indeed very powerful, yet gentle.

There are actually makers from all over the world now.  A very good one is
in Australia.  The Alaska maker is very good.  Perelandra has excellent
ones.  Well, in fact--all essences are wonderful.  And simple to make your
own.  If you are drawn to certain flowers, then those flowers have something
for you.  An essence from them could be exactly what a person needs.  

Samala,
Renee


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Yup, tose flower remedys ertainly do work.
Did anyone know that there are several other flower essences out there
besides just the Bach?



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Re: CSA question, please

2012-05-21 Thread Bernadette Burch
It has been raining all day but no thunderstorms or smog.  I just don't know if 
I should get rid od it and start over.  I make a gallon at a time.  

Thanks to all for the replies.

B.

 

On May 21, 2012, at 9:12 PM, Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com wrote:

It can add nitrogen, if there are nitrides in the air, such as during a 
thunderstorm, or if you have smog.  It will definitely add CO2 producing silver 
carbonate though.

Marshall

On 5/21/2012 8:11 PM, Trem wrote:
 Shows that bubbling is poor practice.  Adds nitrogen to the water increasing
 PPM readings.  Probably a Silver Edge unitright?
 
 Trem
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Bernadette Burch [mailto:bernade...@pa.net]
 Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 4:26 PM
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: CSA question, please
 
 
 I made CS today, but had to leave the house while it was bubbling.  I asked
 my husband to turn it off about an hour after I left.  Needless to say, he
 forgot.  My TDS meter is registering 61.1.  My question is should I throw
 this away.  I drink my CS at a reading of 6 to 12.  Any suggestions would be
 appreciated.  Thank you.
 
 B.
 
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CSCs-Shea Butter

2012-05-21 Thread Melly Bag
Hi Lena,
 
I saw your post on wanting to create a  Shea butter - DMSO creme.  Wouldn't 
DMSO take the shea butter to the blood stream and that DMSO also crosses blood 
brain barrier taking  the shea butter?  Did you want the shea butter in your 
blood stream and brain too?    This is just my two cents, from understanding 
that DMSO crosses blood brain barrier and takes anything to the blood stream.

RE: CSA question, please

2012-05-21 Thread Neville Munn

I wouldn't throw it away.  Praps leave it in storage for a while, then decant 
leaving any and all settlement behind.
Will be ideal for open wounds and/or a throat/tonsil gargle.  You will still be 
absorbing some sublingually anyway when you gargle.
I'd be keeping it for emergency situations, especially animals, and I'd be 
using it sparingly, could be a good thing to have on hand.
N.

 From: bernade...@pa.net
 Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 19:26:25 -0400
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 Subject: CSA question, please
 
 
 I made CS today, but had to leave the house while it was bubbling.  I asked 
 my husband to turn it off about an hour after I left.  Needless to say, he 
 forgot.  My TDS meter is registering 61.1.  My question is should I throw 
 this away.  I drink my CS at a reading of 6 to 12.  Any suggestions would be 
 appreciated.  Thank you.
 
 B.
 
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Re: CSCs-Shea Butter

2012-05-21 Thread Guyot Léna

Hi Melly,

That's a good point, but actually DMSO can't carry just anything  
through the skin. There is a size limit measured in Daltons, that  
makes many things non-transdermal. I hope there's some techie out  
there who knows the Daltons of Shea butter, but my instincts tell me  
that fats like shea butter might be too coarse to be carried. (Only my  
instincts, but when I muscle tested, it tested as good for my use) If  
it did pass the bbb, it would probably be a helpful thing, just like  
VCO is proving to be beneficial to Alzheimer brain-cells that can no  
longer feed off glucose, but can feed off the lipids of coconut oil.  
Hmmm, maybe I should HOPE that the DMSO will deliver!


Be well,
Léna
On May 21, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Melly Bag wrote:

Hi Lena,

I saw your post on wanting to create a  Shea butter - DMSO creme.   
Wouldn't DMSO take the shea butter to the blood stream and that DMSO  
also crosses blood brain barrier taking  the shea butter?  Did you  
want the shea butter in your blood stream and brain too?This is  
just my two cents, from understanding that DMSO crosses blood brain  
barrier and takes anything to the blood stream.




Neville / Re: CSA question, please

2012-05-21 Thread Jane MacRoss
Just wondering Neville - is there no way to reduce the concentration of this?

Jane
  From: Neville Munn 


  I wouldn't throw it away.  Praps leave it in storage for a while, then decant 
leaving any and all settlement behind.


  Will be ideal for open wounds and/or a throat/tonsil gargle.  You will still 
be absorbing some sublingually anyway when you gargle.


  I'd be keeping it for emergency situations, especially animals, and I'd be 
using it sparingly, could be a good thing to have on hand.

  --- 
   I made CS today, but had to leave the house while it was bubbling. I asked 
my husband to turn it off about an hour after I left. Needless to say, he 
forgot. My TDS meter is registering 61.1.

RE: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations

2012-05-21 Thread Renee
Essences are very easy to make.  There's no trick to it, and you don't have
to 'talk' to plants to make it--though it helps.  :)

The more you make essences, the more you work with plants, the more you
learn to communicate with them.  But I tell beginners to just go with
whatever flower they are drawn to.  Go outside and notice the plants, the
flowers.  See which one you are drawn to.

Then ask the plant if it wants to be an essence for you.  I've always gotten
a yes except one time--and that wasn't a no, it was a 'wait'.  I had to wait
a whole year, so there must have been something the plant wanted to do
before working as an essence.  Plants LOVE to work with people.

Anyway--ask if it is ok to take some flowers to make an essence.  You will
feel a yes or no, a positive or negative feeling inside you.  If you get a
positive feeling you then ask how many flowers you will need.  The first
number that pops into your head will be how many.  Don't second guess
yourself.  Normally I usually get 3 or 4, but sometimes it has been 6 and
sometimes only 1.  

Now, you need a small jar, like a baby food jar.  You can make as much of an
essence as you want, but since you literally use drops of the mother
tincture and then drops of the stock bottle, a little goes a long way.
Making even a half cup of essence will last you and your family a lifetime.

So, small jar with good water.  Well water, spring water or distilled water.
A pair of scissors, a lid for the jar, a small strainer.  Fill the jar half
way with water (leaving room for alcohol as a preservative).  

Ask the plant how many flowers.  When you get the number take  the scissors
and clip that many flowers into the lid of the jar.  I do this so as not to
touch the flowers, trying to keep 'me' out of the essence--though of course
the energy of the maker does get in.

Once the flowers are clipped into the lid, tilt them into the jar of water.
Set the jar in the sun, lid off.  I rarely have bugs get in.  I think the
energy is too strong.  I pick a spot that is 'bare' to set the jar.  I use a
tree stump, but you can use a sidewalk, or a driveway.  If you set it on the
ground or in other plants you will pick up that energy.  

I place my hands around the jar, not touching it, and say a prayer asking
the light of the sun to place the energy of the plant into the water so that
all who partake of the essence will be healed.  You will feel the energy
stop flowing from your hands, so stop then.

Leave the jar sitting in the sun for however long you like.  I learned that
the summer south texas sun will evaporate a LOT of water in just 2 hours,
lol, so I usually try to do mine in the morning.  Sometimes it sits for an
hour, sometimes 2 or 3.   

When you feel the essence is ready, bring it in.  strain out the flowers and
put the water back into the jar.  Now add the same amount of alcohol (I use
vodka but traditional is brandy, use what you like) as you have water.  If
you have a quarter cup water add a quarter cup alcohol.  

Label this as your mother tincture, with the name of the flower.  Sit with
this and after a while you'll get what this essences is for.  Or just take
it and see what happens.

To make your dosage bottle you take your mother tincture, get another bottle
with half water, half alcohol.  Ask the mother essence how many drops you
need to make the stock bottle.  The number that pops into your head is
right.  Place that many drops of essence into the new bottle, label it as
your stock bottle and put the flower name on it.

Now from the stock bottle, you will make your dosage bottle.  Take a dropper
bottle, fill with half water, half alcohol.  Ask the stock bottle how many
drops you need to put into the dosage bottle.

Now you have your essence!  You can see that you need very little of the
mother essence because you use just drops of that to make a stock bottle and
then drops of the stock to make your dosage bottle.  

Any questions--just ask.

Samala,
Renee


-Original Message-

Would you share how you make the essences?
Thanks.


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Plant essences / Renee / was / Re: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations

2012-05-21 Thread Jane MacRoss
Wonderful description Renee thank you so much.  Is the dosage bottle the 
bottle you ingest the essence from? Like you add n drops from the dosage 
bottle into a glass of water and sip that through the day or however it 
indicates it should be taken  however many drops it indicates into that 
glass?


And what is so exciting is that people would have growing around them what 
they need most, all unique as to soil, climate and type of plant, since 
nature is so precise.  Presumably you can use leaves as well as flowers? Or 
even bark?


Jane 



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RE: Plant essences / Renee / was / Re: CSmicrowave food: hard-boiled vibrations

2012-05-21 Thread Renee
Yes, the dosage bottle is the bottle you take from.  I tell people to do
what feels right to them.  I get a lot of folks asking 'how many drops, how
many times a day for how many days' because they are use to doctor
prescriptions.  

It's not like that with essences.  I tell people they should get use to
trusting their bodies.  I COULD muscle test them to see how many, how long,
but instead I say 'just suck some up into the dropper and that's how much
you take.  Your body knows exactly how many drops to put into that dropper.
Put the bottle on your bathroom counter.  Every time you go into the
bathroom take some.  When you start going--'oh, I have to take some of my
essence' but then you go to the bathroom and come out and only later you
realized you DIDN'T take any, then you are pretty much through with that
essence'.  

Yes, you can use bark, seeds, leaves, whatever.  People make essences from
butterflies, whales, gasses, etc--they will take a photo of say, a whale,
and meditate with it and say 'put the energy of the whale into this bottle'.
Now, I stick with flower essences :) but it's possible to do anything and
everything.

When I started making them I got the hit that the seed essence of the SAME
flower plant would give a different energy than the flowers did.  I asked
and got yes.  So would leaves.  So I thought--how cool would that be, an
essence of the flower, the seed, the leaf?  But I never got around to making
anything but the flower because once you have a hundred flower essences,
then you start on a hundred seed essences and then a hundred leaf
essences--well, you run out of room, out of bottles, out of time. :)

And yes--if a plant is growing/flowering by you, and you are drawn to
it--then it has something for you.  There are a lot of plants that you may
not be drawn to, though you think the flowers smell nice, or are pretty.
It's when you pay attention you learn which ones you 'need'.  

But they SO want to help.  I hardly go anywhere where there is a flower that
isn't already an essence and I get 'me, over here, ME, pick me!'  lol  I do
mostly texas native essences but do have a few that are not wildflowers, but
houseplants, because they were so insistent.  

And you don't have to just orally take essences.  You can put some water in
a spray bottle, add the essence and spray your area, your bed, your car.
Some ladies carry their favorite bottle in their bra, though pockets work
too, to keep the essence in your aura.  Place some in your bath water.  Lots
of ways to use them.

Samala,
Renee


-Original Message-
From: Jane MacRoss [mailto:highfie...@internode.on.net] 

Is the dosage bottle the 
bottle you ingest the essence from? 



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