CS>help with brands please

[finplan65]

Hello. I recently came across your site while doing research on Colloidal 
Silver for the treatment of Lyme Disease. My physician has started me on 
antibiotics but also wants me to use C. Silver as well. The multitude of 
brands, claims and strengths/potencies is overwhelming!

Can you please help by providing some brands that are effective, high quality 
and safe? This will be a huge help.

Thank You,

Phil Wylie

Re: CS>possibility of shingles!

[Lena Guyot]

Thanks for the heads up, Marshall!
Sometimes the lab-rat in me aspires to be a lab-tech. =)

Be well,
Léna
On Oct 26, 2012, at 10:22 PM, Marshall wrote:

> I have not had experience with that combination, but some research has turned 
> up the following supposed facts:
> 
> If you mix borax with polyvinyl alcohol, you get slime
> Borax does not dissolve in pure or near pure propanol, ethyl or methyl alcohol
> A mixture of borax and 50/50 alcohol and water was used in the old days for 
> sweaty feet.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> 
> On 10/26/2012 5:58 PM, Craig Chamberlin wrote:
>> 
>> Lena, if you are going to mix the CS with Borax I don't know what it 
>> becomes.  Marshall
>> 
>> Try the vodka (dilute with distilled water) and see what it does for the 
>> pain, then try the cs, then Borax.  Unless Marshall says otherwise.
>> 
>> Good luck,
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> Lena Guyot wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Craig,
>>> This is very helpful! I just bought a bottle of vodka the other day for 
>>> making tinctures, so will try this. I take Boron regularly and put Borax in 
>>> my laundry, so I may tinker with a mix of vodka, borax, and CS and see what 
>>> happens.
>>> 
>>> I miss Obie. Wonder where he's at. Thanks for keeping such good archives.
>>> 
>>> Really appreciate all the support in this suffering.
>>> Be well,
>>> Léna
>> 
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>> 
> 

Re: CS>possibility of shingles!

[Lena Guyot]

Hi Zoe, 
With hurricane Sandy headed our way I fear we may lose WiFi, so am digging up 
some books I've been meaning to read tomorrow. Netflix has been my major 
analgesic through this nightmare.
How much niacin did you do?  I'm up to speed on L-Lysine, and a friend told me 
tonight that opening a capsule under the tongue is extra good. Taste isn't bad 
at all!. I'll keep my 500mg. caps next to the bed, just in case.
The sleep thing is great, except that I wake up so disappointed to find that 
the problem is still there!

Be well,
Léna

On Oct 26, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Zoe W wrote:

> LOL  I just asked the same question.
> 
> Lena,  mine are "almost" gone now,  as long as I remember to take the Lysine 
> 3X daily  they behave themselves.  Lots of the other things I am continuing 
> for other reasons.  C-B and Niacin.
> 
> I did 2 things to keep my sanity,  #1  sleep a LOT
> #2  when awake  I played games on Facebook.  kept my mind off it.
> 
> zoe
> 
> From: Lena Guyot 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Friday, 26 October 2012, 20:41
> Subject: Re: CS>possibility of shingles!
> 
> OK Tel, 
> I'll bite. What herbal concoction/recipe can you share? I'm a desperate 
> woman! =)
> 
> Be well, my friend,
> Léna
> On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:10 PM, Tel Tofflemire wrote:
> 
>> If the Booze does not work,
>>  I have some Herbal tea I make that works very well, 
>> I make it fresh with each use.
>>  I  have used it with many for over 20 years for shingles.
>> Tel Tofflemire
>> 
>> From: Lena Guyot 
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: CS>possibility of shingles!
>> 
>> Hi Craig,
>> This is very helpful! I just bought a bottle of vodka the other day for 
>> making tinctures, so will try this. I take Boron regularly and put Borax in 
>> my laundry, so I may tinker with a mix of vodka, borax, and CS and see what 
>> happens.
>> 
>> I miss Obie. Wonder where he's at. Thanks for keeping such good archives.
>> 
>> Really appreciate all the support in this suffering.
>> Be well,
>> Léna
>> 
>> On Oct 26, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Craig Chamberlin wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Lena,
>>> 
>>> About ten years ago I got this suggestion from Obie (you still around 
>>> Obie?) and it has worked for a number of people with whom I have shared it.
>>> 
>>> "
>>> I use a large spray bottle, pour Everclear (180+ proof alcohol) into it, 
>>> for shingles, to about 5% and fill the bottle with water shake and spray.  
>>> This will kill the bacteria completely and it won't take two or three 
>>> weeks.  Use a dilute solution and spray more often because they are 
>>> dominating such a large area of her skin that it
>>> will be painful if it's too strong.  Any other skin or mouth, throat 
>>> problem, I use the solution at 10%.  It's teriffic, works every time.
>>> 
>>> Also, if she thinks external bacteria is a problem, suggest Borax as a
>>> bodywash and in the washine machine.  They can't feed on us with Borax.  
>>> I've used it for years; never had any further problems.
>>> The best to her, Obie."
>>> 
>>> The same ratio could be made by using vodka (which is usually 40 proof). I 
>>> can't remember the formula to calculate how much water to add to this to 
>>> get the same "5%" that Obie is referring to...I am certain Marshall does.
>>> 
>>> I know that this knocks the pain down almost immediately...and I know after 
>>> the application of alcohol, the area was wiped/dabbed with CS.
>>> 
>>> Maybe this will help.
>>> 
>>> FWIW,
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> Lena Guyot wrote:
 
 Hi Zoe,
 I've been applying Brooks mix to the patches which calms them briefly. 
 Between that and the GB issues, I feel like I'm in one of Dante's circles 
 of hell. I'm drinking CS as well and taking 3g of L-lysine. Already on 15g 
 of C a day along with 15g of Himalayan salt. I'm Rifing the herpes Zoster 
 frequencies, in hope that they can reduce this.
 
 My husband is understandably nervous about my misery and brings up the 'D' 
 word ( as in doctor), but I don't want black box pharma, not with Lyme 
 disease on board. He's presently off to the nat. food store and pharmacy 
 for some topical cremes that are supposed to help.
 
 How has your battle been? I've only been fighting this a week and can't 
 imagine how you've hung on. What other tricks have you used. Are you still 
 sane? I have a very high pain threshold, but this is something else.
 
 Thanks and be well,
 Léna
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: CS>possibility of shingles!

[Marshall]

I have not had experience with that combination, but some research has 
turned up the following supposed facts:


If you mix borax with polyvinyl alcohol, you get slime
Borax does not dissolve in pure or near pure propanol, ethyl or methyl 
alcohol
A mixture of borax and 50/50 alcohol and water was used in the old days 
for sweaty feet.


Marshall


On 10/26/2012 5:58 PM, Craig Chamberlin wrote:
Lena, if you are going to mix the CS with Borax I don't know what it 
becomes.  Marshall


Try the vodka (dilute with distilled water) and see what it does for 
the pain, then try the cs, then Borax.  Unless Marshall says otherwise.


Good luck,

Craig

Lena Guyot wrote:

Hi Craig,
This is very helpful! I just bought a bottle of vodka the other day 
for making tinctures, so will try this. I take Boron regularly and 
put Borax in my laundry, so I may tinker with a mix of vodka, borax, 
and CS and see what happens.


I miss Obie. Wonder where he's at. Thanks for keeping such good archives.

Really appreciate all the support in this suffering.
Be well,
Léna




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Re: CS>possibility of shingles!

[Zoe W]

LOL  I just asked the same question.

Lena,  mine are "almost" gone now,  as long as I remember to take the Lysine 3X 
daily  they behave themselves.  Lots of the other things I am continuing for 
other reasons.  C-B and Niacin.

I did 2 things to keep my sanity,  #1  sleep a LOT
#2  when awake  I played games on Facebook.  kept my mind off it.

zoe



 From: Lena Guyot 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, 26 October 2012, 20:41
Subject: Re: CS>possibility of shingles!
 

OK Tel, 
I'll bite. What herbal concoction/recipe can you share? I'm a desperate woman! 
=)

Be well, my friend,
Léna

On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:10 PM, Tel Tofflemire wrote:

If the Booze does not work,
> I have some Herbal tea I make that works very well, 
>I make it fresh with each use.
> I  have used it with many for over 20 years for shingles.
>
>Tel Tofflemire
>
>
>
>
> From: Lena Guyot 
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:57 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>possibility of shingles!
> 
>
>Hi Craig,
>This is very helpful! I just bought a bottle of vodka the other day for making 
>tinctures, so will try this. I take Boron regularly and put Borax in my 
>laundry, so I may tinker with a mix of vodka, borax, and CS and see what 
>happens.
>
>
>I miss Obie. Wonder where he's at. Thanks for keeping such good archives.
>
>
>Really appreciate all the support in this suffering.
>Be well,
>Léna
>
>
>
>On Oct 26, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Craig Chamberlin wrote:
>
> 
>>Hi Lena,
>>
>>About ten years ago I got this suggestion from Obie (you still around
Obie?) and it has worked for a number of people with whom I have shared
it.
>>
>>" 
>>I use a large spray bottle, pour Everclear (180+ proof alcohol) into it, for 
>>shingles, to about 5% and fill the bottle with water shake and spray.  This 
>>will kill the bacteria completely and it won't take two or three weeks.  Use 
>>a dilute solution and spray more often because they are dominating such a 
>>large area of her skin that it
will be painful if it's too strong.  Any other skin or mouth, throat problem, I 
use the solution at 10%.  It's teriffic, works every time. Also, if she thinks 
external bacteria is a problem, suggest Borax as a
bodywash and in the washine machine.  They can't feed on us with Borax.  I've 
used it for years; never had any further problems.
The best to her, Obie." The same ratio could be made by using vodka (which is 
usually 40 proof). I can't remember the formula to calculate how much water to 
add to this to get the same "5%" that Obie is referring to...I am certain 
Marshall does. I know that this knocks the pain down almost immediately...and I 
know after the application of alcohol, the area was wiped/dabbed with CS. Maybe 
this will help. FWIW, Craig 
>>Lena Guyot wrote: 
>>Hi Zoe, 
>>>I've been
applying Brooks mix to the patches which calms them briefly. Between
that and the GB issues, I feel like I'm in one of Dante's circles of
hell. I'm drinking CS as well and taking 3g of L-lysine. Already on 15g
of C a day along with 15g of Himalayan salt. I'm Rifing the herpes
Zoster frequencies, in hope that they can reduce this.
>>>
>>>
>>>My husband is
understandably nervous about my misery and brings up the 'D' word ( as
in doctor), but I don't want black box pharma, not with Lyme disease on
board. He's presently off to the nat. food store and pharmacy for some
topical cremes that are supposed to help.
>>>
>>>
>>>How has your
battle been? I've only been fighting this a week and can't imagine how
you've hung on. What other tricks have you used. Are you still sane? I
have a very high pain threshold, but this is something else.
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks and be
well,
>>>Léna
>>
>
>
>

Re: CS>possibility of shingles!

[Zoe W]

What or which herb(s)?

zoe




 From: Tel Tofflemire 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
Sent: Friday, 26 October 2012, 20:10
Subject: Re: CS>possibility of shingles!
 

If the Booze does not work,
 I have some Herbal tea I make that works very well, 
I make it fresh with each use.
 I  have used it with many for over 20 years for shingles.

Tel Tofflemire



 From: Lena Guyot 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: CS>possibility of shingles!
 

Hi Craig,
This is very helpful! I just bought a bottle of vodka the other day for making 
tinctures, so will try this. I take Boron regularly and put Borax in my 
laundry, so I may tinker with a mix of vodka, borax, and CS and see what 
happens.

I miss Obie. Wonder where he's at. Thanks for keeping such good archives.

Really appreciate all the support in this suffering.
Be well,
Léna



On Oct 26, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Craig Chamberlin wrote:

 
>Hi Lena,
>
>About ten years ago I got this suggestion from Obie (you still around
Obie?) and it has worked for a number of people with whom I have shared
it.
>
>" 
>I use a large spray bottle, pour Everclear (180+ proof alcohol) into it, for 
>shingles, to about 5% and fill the bottle with water shake and spray.  This 
>will kill the bacteria completely and it won't take two or three weeks.  Use a 
>dilute solution and spray more often because they are dominating such a large 
>area of her skin that it
will be painful if it's too strong.  Any other skin or mouth, throat problem, I 
use the solution at 10%.  It's teriffic, works every time. Also, if she thinks 
external bacteria is a problem, suggest Borax as a
bodywash and in the washine machine.  They can't feed on us with Borax.  I've 
used it for years; never had any further problems.
The best to her, Obie." The same ratio could be made by using vodka (which is 
usually 40 proof). I can't remember the formula to calculate how much water to 
add to this to get the same "5%" that Obie is referring to...I am certain 
Marshall does. I know that this knocks the pain down almost immediately...and I 
know after the application of alcohol, the area was wiped/dabbed with CS. Maybe 
this will help. FWIW, Craig 
>Lena Guyot wrote: 
>Hi Zoe, 
>>I've been
applying Brooks mix to the patches which calms them briefly. Between
that and the GB issues, I feel like I'm in one of Dante's circles of
hell. I'm drinking CS as well and taking 3g of L-lysine. Already on 15g
of C a day along with 15g of Himalayan salt. I'm Rifing the herpes
Zoster frequencies, in hope that they can reduce this.
>>
>>
>>My husband is
understandably nervous about my misery and brings up the 'D' word ( as
in doctor), but I don't want black box pharma, not with Lyme disease on
board. He's presently off to the nat. food store and pharmacy for some
topical cremes that are supposed to help.
>>
>>
>>How has your
battle been? I've only been fighting this a week and can't imagine how
you've hung on. What other tricks have you used. Are you still sane? I
have a very high pain threshold, but this is something else.
>>
>>
>>Thanks and be
well,
>>Léna
>

Re: CS>microelectricitygermkiller group

[Lena Guyot]

Thanks for this link, PJ,
I just joined! My mind is pretty shot this evening and can't sit up any more, 
but will see if I can find my geranium oil. Tomorrow, I'll search the links and 
files for shingles. Pain really steepens the learning curve, doesn't it?

Be well,
Léna

On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:21 PM, Shirley Reed wrote:

>The group mentioned above has files that address the herpes and shingles 
> issues.  I think it will work for this and it is cheap and easy to try.  
> Also, geranium oil is said to quickly alleviate the pain of shingles.  I have 
> no personal experience with this oil for shingles.  Best wishes,  pj

Re: CS>possibility of shingles!

[Lena Guyot]

OK Tel, 
I'll bite. What herbal concoction/recipe can you share? I'm a desperate woman! 
=)

Be well, my friend,
Léna
On Oct 26, 2012, at 8:10 PM, Tel Tofflemire wrote:

> If the Booze does not work,
>  I have some Herbal tea I make that works very well, 
> I make it fresh with each use.
>  I  have used it with many for over 20 years for shingles.
> Tel Tofflemire
> 
> From: Lena Guyot 
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:57 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>possibility of shingles!
> 
> Hi Craig,
> This is very helpful! I just bought a bottle of vodka the other day for 
> making tinctures, so will try this. I take Boron regularly and put Borax in 
> my laundry, so I may tinker with a mix of vodka, borax, and CS and see what 
> happens.
> 
> I miss Obie. Wonder where he's at. Thanks for keeping such good archives.
> 
> Really appreciate all the support in this suffering.
> Be well,
> Léna
> 
> On Oct 26, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Craig Chamberlin wrote:
> 
>> Hi Lena,
>> 
>> About ten years ago I got this suggestion from Obie (you still around Obie?) 
>> and it has worked for a number of people with whom I have shared it.
>> 
>> "
>> I use a large spray bottle, pour Everclear (180+ proof alcohol) into it, for 
>> shingles, to about 5% and fill the bottle with water shake and spray.  This 
>> will kill the bacteria completely and it won't take two or three weeks.  Use 
>> a dilute solution and spray more often because they are dominating such a 
>> large area of her skin that it
>> will be painful if it's too strong.  Any other skin or mouth, throat 
>> problem, I use the solution at 10%.  It's teriffic, works every time.
>> 
>> Also, if she thinks external bacteria is a problem, suggest Borax as a
>> bodywash and in the washine machine.  They can't feed on us with Borax.  
>> I've used it for years; never had any further problems.
>> The best to her, Obie."
>> 
>> The same ratio could be made by using vodka (which is usually 40 proof). I 
>> can't remember the formula to calculate how much water to add to this to get 
>> the same "5%" that Obie is referring to...I am certain Marshall does.
>> 
>> I know that this knocks the pain down almost immediately...and I know after 
>> the application of alcohol, the area was wiped/dabbed with CS.
>> 
>> Maybe this will help.
>> 
>> FWIW,
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> Lena Guyot wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Zoe,
>>> I've been applying Brooks mix to the patches which calms them briefly. 
>>> Between that and the GB issues, I feel like I'm in one of Dante's circles 
>>> of hell. I'm drinking CS as well and taking 3g of L-lysine. Already on 15g 
>>> of C a day along with 15g of Himalayan salt. I'm Rifing the herpes Zoster 
>>> frequencies, in hope that they can reduce this.
>>> 
>>> My husband is understandably nervous about my misery and brings up the 'D' 
>>> word ( as in doctor), but I don't want black box pharma, not with Lyme 
>>> disease on board. He's presently off to the nat. food store and pharmacy 
>>> for some topical cremes that are supposed to help.
>>> 
>>> How has your battle been? I've only been fighting this a week and can't 
>>> imagine how you've hung on. What other tricks have you used. Are you still 
>>> sane? I have a very high pain threshold, but this is something else.
>>> 
>>> Thanks and be well,
>>> Léna
>> 
> 
> 
> 

CS>microelectricitygermkiller group

[Shirley Reed]

   The group mentioned above has files that address the herpes and shingles 
issues.  I think it will work for this and it is cheap and easy to try.  Also, 
geranium oil is said to quickly alleviate the pain of shingles.  I have no 
personal experience with this oil for shingles.  Best wishes,  pj

Re: CS>possibility of shingles!

[Tel Tofflemire]

If the Booze does not work,
 I have some Herbal tea I make that works very well, 
I make it fresh with each use.
 I  have used it with many for over 20 years for shingles.

Tel Tofflemire



 From: Lena Guyot 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: CS>possibility of shingles!
 

Hi Craig,
This is very helpful! I just bought a bottle of vodka the other day for making 
tinctures, so will try this. I take Boron regularly and put Borax in my 
laundry, so I may tinker with a mix of vodka, borax, and CS and see what 
happens.

I miss Obie. Wonder where he's at. Thanks for keeping such good archives.

Really appreciate all the support in this suffering.
Be well,
Léna



On Oct 26, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Craig Chamberlin wrote:

 
>Hi Lena,
>
>About ten years ago I got this suggestion from Obie (you still around
Obie?) and it has worked for a number of people with whom I have shared
it.
>
>" 
>I use a large spray bottle, pour Everclear (180+ proof alcohol) into it, for 
>shingles, to about 5% and fill the bottle with water shake and spray.  This 
>will kill the bacteria completely and it won't take two or three weeks.  Use a 
>dilute solution and spray more often because they are dominating such a large 
>area of her skin that it
will be painful if it's too strong.  Any other skin or mouth, throat problem, I 
use the solution at 10%.  It's teriffic, works every time. Also, if she thinks 
external bacteria is a problem, suggest Borax as a
bodywash and in the washine machine.  They can't feed on us with Borax.  I've 
used it for years; never had any further problems.
The best to her, Obie." The same ratio could be made by using vodka (which is 
usually 40 proof). I can't remember the formula to calculate how much water to 
add to this to get the same "5%" that Obie is referring to...I am certain 
Marshall does. I know that this knocks the pain down almost immediately...and I 
know after the application of alcohol, the area was wiped/dabbed with CS. Maybe 
this will help. FWIW, Craig 
>Lena Guyot wrote: 
>Hi Zoe, 
>>I've been
applying Brooks mix to the patches which calms them briefly. Between
that and the GB issues, I feel like I'm in one of Dante's circles of
hell. I'm drinking CS as well and taking 3g of L-lysine. Already on 15g
of C a day along with 15g of Himalayan salt. I'm Rifing the herpes
Zoster frequencies, in hope that they can reduce this.
>>
>>
>>My husband is
understandably nervous about my misery and brings up the 'D' word ( as
in doctor), but I don't want black box pharma, not with Lyme disease on
board. He's presently off to the nat. food store and pharmacy for some
topical cremes that are supposed to help.
>>
>>
>>How has your
battle been? I've only been fighting this a week and can't imagine how
you've hung on. What other tricks have you used. Are you still sane? I
have a very high pain threshold, but this is something else.
>>
>>
>>Thanks and be
well,
>>Léna
>

Re: CS>possibility of shingles!

[Craig Chamberlin]

Lena, if you are going to mix the CS with Borax I don't know what it 
becomes.  Marshall


Try the vodka (dilute with distilled water) and see what it does for the 
pain, then try the cs, then Borax.  Unless Marshall says otherwise.


Good luck,

Craig

Lena Guyot wrote:

Hi Craig,
This is very helpful! I just bought a bottle of vodka the other day 
for making tinctures, so will try this. I take Boron regularly and put 
Borax in my laundry, so I may tinker with a mix of vodka, borax, and 
CS and see what happens.


I miss Obie. Wonder where he's at. Thanks for keeping such good archives.

Really appreciate all the support in this suffering.
Be well,
Léna

Re: CS>possibility of shingles!

[Lena Guyot]

Hi Craig,
This is very helpful! I just bought a bottle of vodka the other day for making 
tinctures, so will try this. I take Boron regularly and put Borax in my 
laundry, so I may tinker with a mix of vodka, borax, and CS and see what 
happens.

I miss Obie. Wonder where he's at. Thanks for keeping such good archives.

Really appreciate all the support in this suffering.
Be well,
Léna

On Oct 26, 2012, at 4:41 PM, Craig Chamberlin wrote:

> Hi Lena,
> 
> About ten years ago I got this suggestion from Obie (you still around Obie?) 
> and it has worked for a number of people with whom I have shared it.
> 
> "
> I use a large spray bottle, pour Everclear (180+ proof alcohol) into it, for 
> shingles, to about 5% and fill the bottle with water shake and spray.  This 
> will kill the bacteria completely and it won't take two or three weeks.  Use 
> a dilute solution and spray more often because they are dominating such a 
> large area of her skin that it
> will be painful if it's too strong.  Any other skin or mouth, throat problem, 
> I use the solution at 10%.  It's teriffic, works every time.
> 
> Also, if she thinks external bacteria is a problem, suggest Borax as a
> bodywash and in the washine machine.  They can't feed on us with Borax.  I've 
> used it for years; never had any further problems.
> The best to her, Obie."
> 
> The same ratio could be made by using vodka (which is usually 40 proof). I 
> can't remember the formula to calculate how much water to add to this to get 
> the same "5%" that Obie is referring to...I am certain Marshall does.
> 
> I know that this knocks the pain down almost immediately...and I know after 
> the application of alcohol, the area was wiped/dabbed with CS.
> 
> Maybe this will help.
> 
> FWIW,
> 
> Craig
> 
> Lena Guyot wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Zoe,
>> I've been applying Brooks mix to the patches which calms them briefly. 
>> Between that and the GB issues, I feel like I'm in one of Dante's circles of 
>> hell. I'm drinking CS as well and taking 3g of L-lysine. Already on 15g of C 
>> a day along with 15g of Himalayan salt. I'm Rifing the herpes Zoster 
>> frequencies, in hope that they can reduce this.
>> 
>> My husband is understandably nervous about my misery and brings up the 'D' 
>> word ( as in doctor), but I don't want black box pharma, not with Lyme 
>> disease on board. He's presently off to the nat. food store and pharmacy for 
>> some topical cremes that are supposed to help.
>> 
>> How has your battle been? I've only been fighting this a week and can't 
>> imagine how you've hung on. What other tricks have you used. Are you still 
>> sane? I have a very high pain threshold, but this is something else.
>> 
>> Thanks and be well,
>> Léna
> 

Re: CS>high PPM EIS concept:

[David AuBuchon]

Very interesting...Thanks a ton for those responses.

David

On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 9:37 AM, Asif Nathekar wrote:

> **
> I use a current controlled CS generator, by increasing the 'distance'
> between the electrodes by means of a maze type container would
> THEORETICALLY help me by increasing the resistance of the DW so that i can
> keep the voltages higher where it tends to brew more efficiently, without
> reaching a low voltage so soon and limiting the process.
>
> for example in my setup when i reach below 6v it seems reluctant to brew
> any more.
>
> and that's with a setup where I can increase the distance between the
> electrodes, when I reach a limit, I increase the distance between the
> electrodes so that I can brew again by increasing the voltages.
>
> I can get 38us roughly using this method, although I am an advocate of
> very low current brewing (0.1/0.2ma per SQ inch) and my setup is geared for
> this in mind, so my current controlled setup will go low voltage quicker
> than most to maintain the low currents I am looking for my brew.
>
> the reason I mention this is that I understand the wisdom behind the
> question and agree with this line of reasoning based on my experiences .
>
> Peace to all,
>
> Asif.
>
>
>
>  *From:* Marshall 
> *Sent:* Friday, October 26, 2012 3:16 PM
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: CS>high PPM EIS concept:
>
> On 10/25/2012 11:01 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:
>
> I hope I am not violating some basic law(s) of electrochemistry
> here...I'll give myself a 50% chance of someone correcting me:
>
> What if you divided the cell with a material that is nonconducting, does
> not react with silver ions, and manages to obstruct the flow of current
> between the electrodes completely.  Then you punched a small hole in the
> material.  Current could pass through that hole.  If that hole could be
> moved around in the plane of that sheet of material, it could confound the
> silver ions trying to migrate towards that hole, as they rarely succeed in
> passing through it before it has moved to somewhere else.  Could this allow
> an indefinite amount of silver ions to get into solution?
>
> I guess it is like creating an artificial sense of "infinite distance"
> between electrodes without there ever being such a thing.
>
> Another concept is to literally create a large distance between
> electrodes.  Could this not also be helpful in reaching higher
> concentrations of silver ions?  A way to do this is to create some kind of
> a maze for the ion to have to travel through.
>
>
> The problem is that the ions will over a short time diffuse so that they
> are even throughout the solution due to diffusion.  This this would
> accomplish nothing.  However I have heard of people socking the electrode,
> apparently the ions can have a hard time getting through the cloth to the
> other electrode.  If you put a osmosis barrier in there, that just might do
> what you are wanting.
>
> Marshall
>
>
>
> David
>
>
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Re: CS>possibility of shingles!

[Craig Chamberlin]

Hi Lena,

About ten years ago I got this suggestion from Obie (you still around 
Obie?) and it has worked for a number of people with whom I have shared it.


"

I use a large spray bottle, pour Everclear (180+ proof alcohol) into it, for 
shingles, to about 5% and fill the bottle with water shake and spray.  This 
will kill the bacteria completely and it won't take two or three weeks.  Use a 
dilute solution and spray more often because they are dominating such a large 
area of her skin that it
will be painful if it's too strong.  Any other skin or mouth, throat problem, I 
use the solution at 10%.  It's teriffic, works every time.

Also, if she thinks external bacteria is a problem, suggest Borax as a
bodywash and in the washine machine.  They can't feed on us with Borax.  I've 
used it for years; never had any further problems.
The best to her, Obie."

The same ratio could be made by using vodka (which is usually 40 proof). I can't remember 
the formula to calculate how much water to add to this to get the same "5%" 
that Obie is referring to...I am certain Marshall does.

I know that this knocks the pain down almost immediately...and I know after the 
application of alcohol, the area was wiped/dabbed with CS.

Maybe this will help.

FWIW,

Craig


Lena Guyot wrote:

Hi Zoe,
I've been applying Brooks mix to the patches which calms them briefly. 
Between that and the GB issues, I feel like I'm in one of Dante's 
circles of hell. I'm drinking CS as well and taking 3g of L-lysine. 
Already on 15g of C a day along with 15g of Himalayan salt. I'm Rifing 
the herpes Zoster frequencies, in hope that they can reduce this.


My husband is understandably nervous about my misery and brings up the 
'D' word ( as in doctor), but I don't want black box pharma, not with 
Lyme disease on board. He's presently off to the nat. food store and 
pharmacy for some topical cremes that are supposed to help.


How has your battle been? I've only been fighting this a week and 
can't imagine how you've hung on. What other tricks have you used. Are 
you still sane? I have a very high pain threshold, but this is 
something else.


Thanks and be well,
Léna

Re: CS>possibility of shingles!

[Lena Guyot]

Hi Zoe,
I've been applying Brooks mix to the patches which calms them briefly. Between 
that and the GB issues, I feel like I'm in one of Dante's circles of hell. I'm 
drinking CS as well and taking 3g of L-lysine. Already on 15g of C a day along 
with 15g of Himalayan salt. I'm Rifing the herpes Zoster frequencies, in hope 
that they can reduce this.

My husband is understandably nervous about my misery and brings up the 'D' word 
( as in doctor), but I don't want black box pharma, not with Lyme disease on 
board. He's presently off to the nat. food store and pharmacy for some topical 
cremes that are supposed to help.

How has your battle been? I've only been fighting this a week and can't imagine 
how you've hung on. What other tricks have you used. Are you still sane? I have 
a very high pain threshold, but this is something else.

Thanks and be well,
Léna
On Oct 24, 2012, at 5:01 PM, Zoe W wrote:

> Lena,  I've been battling shingles since January this year. CS is now being 
> used effectively ,  someone gave me a recipe for Brooks Mix   which is 
> essentially,  CS,DMSO and glycerine.  s I substituted  Coconut oil for the 
> glycerine and it works OK,  just have to shake it up  since oil and water ( 
> you know the drill).Later Brooke  spoke up and said he was now using Aloe 
> gell instead of the glycerine and it was much more effective.
> 
> Also   LYSINE   3 grams  daily.   I was put on L-lysine initially  but not 
> enough.  B vitamins  especially  B-12 and lots of Vitamin C.
> 
> Mine have calmed down considerably  but I still get a hefty reminder when its 
> time to take more Lysine.
> 
> The first two months of this stuff was almost unbearable, what with the pain 
> and the itching.   Ice packs 24/7 helped keep things bearable,  eventually  I 
> didn't need the ice any more but its very slow going.   Shingles are much 
> nastier than anyone can imagine unless they have experienced them.  My Doc  
> said I had the worst case he had ever seen,  so I guess I'm lucky that they 
> have improved this much.   The scars from the lesions are still clearly 
> visible.
> Then  I tried  Chapparel tincture both applied topically and taken 
> internally.  It does seem to help  but tastes and smells pretty nasty.
> 
> zoe
> 
> From: Lena Guyot 
> To: silver-list  
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 October 2012, 23:34
> Subject: CS>possibility of shingles!
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> Well, in the midst of some upper back-pain that I suspected was referred pain 
> from GB issues, my psoriasis (over the same area) was also getting painful: 
> extra itchy and hard to ignore. No blisters to indicate shingles, but for 5 
> days, it's been uncomfortable and confusing. 
> 
> I sponged the area down tonight with concentrated, topical CS I make and keep 
> in an urn in the bathroom and things feel somewhat better. Hope this is 
> turning the corner as it's been a rough few days so far.
> 
> Does anyone have any experience with CS for either GB issues or shingles? 
> Tonight, I also used CS and MSM under the tongue to get it throughout my 
> system more efficiently. I'm also drinking a couple oz. of my regular CS.
> 
> Being a Lymie, I really don't want to go to the allopathic folks at the local 
> hosp., as their remedies for both issues have side effects contra-indicated 
> for Lyme. 
> 
> BTW, my CS is generated with a Silver Puppy. For topical use, I put it on 
> manual and run it longer, but for ingestion, I only use the auto setting.
> 
> Thanks for any advice you can give.
> Be well,
> Léna
> 
> 

Re: CS>high PPM EIS concept:

[Asif Nathekar]

I use a current controlled CS generator, by increasing the 'distance' between 
the electrodes by means of a maze type container would THEORETICALLY help me by 
increasing the resistance of the DW so that i can keep the voltages higher 
where it tends to brew more efficiently, without reaching a low voltage so soon 
and limiting the process.

for example in my setup when i reach below 6v it seems reluctant to brew any 
more.

and that's with a setup where I can increase the distance between the 
electrodes, when I reach a limit, I increase the distance between the 
electrodes so that I can brew again by increasing the voltages.

I can get 38us roughly using this method, although I am an advocate of very low 
current brewing (0.1/0.2ma per SQ inch) and my setup is geared for this in 
mind, so my current controlled setup will go low voltage quicker than most to 
maintain the low currents I am looking for my brew.

the reason I mention this is that I understand the wisdom behind the question 
and agree with this line of reasoning based on my experiences .

Peace to all,

Asif.




From: Marshall 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 3:16 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: CS>high PPM EIS concept:


On 10/25/2012 11:01 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: 
  I hope I am not violating some basic law(s) of electrochemistry here...I'll 
give myself a 50% chance of someone correcting me:

  What if you divided the cell with a material that is nonconducting, does not 
react with silver ions, and manages to obstruct the flow of current between the 
electrodes completely.  Then you punched a small hole in the material.  Current 
could pass through that hole.  If that hole could be moved around in the plane 
of that sheet of material, it could confound the silver ions trying to migrate 
towards that hole, as they rarely succeed in passing through it before it has 
moved to somewhere else.  Could this allow an indefinite amount of silver ions 
to get into solution?

  I guess it is like creating an artificial sense of "infinite distance" 
between electrodes without there ever being such a thing.  

  Another concept is to literally create a large distance between electrodes.  
Could this not also be helpful in reaching higher concentrations of silver 
ions?  A way to do this is to create some kind of a maze for the ion to have to 
travel through.  


The problem is that the ions will over a short time diffuse so that they are 
even throughout the solution due to diffusion.  This this would accomplish 
nothing.  However I have heard of people socking the electrode, apparently the 
ions can have a hard time getting through the cloth to the other electrode.  If 
you put a osmosis barrier in there, that just might do what you are wanting.

Marshall



  David



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Re: CS>high PPM EIS concept:

[Marshall]

On 10/25/2012 11:01 PM, David AuBuchon wrote:
I hope I am not violating some basic law(s) of electrochemistry 
here...I'll give myself a 50% chance of someone correcting me:


What if you divided the cell with a material that is nonconducting, 
does not react with silver ions, and manages to obstruct the flow of 
current between the electrodes completely.  Then you punched a small 
hole in the material.  Current could pass through that hole.  If that 
hole could be moved around in the plane of that sheet of material, it 
could confound the silver ions trying to migrate towards that hole, as 
they rarely succeed in passing through it before it has moved to 
somewhere else.  Could this allow an indefinite amount of silver ions 
to get into solution?


I guess it is like creating an artificial sense of "infinite distance" 
between electrodes without there ever being such a thing.


Another concept is to literally create a large distance between 
electrodes.  Could this not also be helpful in reaching higher 
concentrations of silver ions?  A way to do this is to create some 
kind of a maze for the ion to have to travel through.


The problem is that the ions will over a short time diffuse so that they 
are even throughout the solution due to diffusion.  This this would 
accomplish nothing.  However I have heard of people socking the 
electrode, apparently the ions can have a hard time getting through the 
cloth to the other electrode.  If you put a osmosis barrier in there, 
that just might do what you are wanting.


Marshall



David




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Re: CS>high PPM EIS concept:

[asif nathekar]

Reverse Osmosis Membrane or something analogous to that perhaps?

From: David AuBuchon 
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 4:01 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: CS>high PPM EIS concept:

I hope I am not violating some basic law(s) of electrochemistry here...I'll 
give myself a 50% chance of someone correcting me:

What if you divided the cell with a material that is nonconducting, does not 
react with silver ions, and manages to obstruct the flow of current between the 
electrodes completely.  Then you punched a small hole in the material.  Current 
could pass through that hole.  If that hole could be moved around in the plane 
of that sheet of material, it could confound the silver ions trying to migrate 
towards that hole, as they rarely succeed in passing through it before it has 
moved to somewhere else.  Could this allow an indefinite amount of silver ions 
to get into solution?

I guess it is like creating an artificial sense of "infinite distance" between 
electrodes without there ever being such a thing.  

Another concept is to literally create a large distance between electrodes.  
Could this not also be helpful in reaching higher concentrations of silver 
ions?  A way to do this is to create some kind of a maze for the ion to have to 
travel through.  


David