Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer (BlackSalve)

[Rowena]

I did. At the appt where the Dr showed us how he would cut my DH's 
SquamousCell Carcinoma, he also checked me over and said no problem.
I didn't believe him, so when we came home DH put BSalve on my lifelong 
mole which had changed and was itching.
It reacted and came away.  It has been pink insted of brown ever since. 
I have applied once or twice since then as a test, but nothing happened.

R
On 25/08/2013 9:26 AM, Anne Ney wrote:

Can this be used on suspicious moles?



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Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[Teri with Jasmine & Mykal in Spirit]

I had a melanoma on my hand, just below the 1st knuckle, the area for me that 
tends to get a lot of sun exposure while driving and golfing (I glove both 
hands now, when I can afford to play ;-) 

A doc used cryosurgery to remove it over 10 yrs ago and it left an obvious 
circular scar, about an inch in diam. 9x out of 10, there is a scab on the 
upper part, right where the cancer was. I applied salve a couple yrs ago and 
got nothing. 

I used home made black salve (Balm of Gilead, Kathryn Brunken) on my Angel 
Labbie girl Jasmine's spindle cell tumor. It was triggered by a sprain to her 
dew claw and then shock to her immune system after bloat/torsion/corrective 
surgery. 

I have to say, it was both amazing and disgusting to watch the cancer come out. 
I had her loaded up with pain meds and she seemed to handle it ok - still 
bounced around a bit, never really licked at it, and her appetite was good. 

IMO, I didn't apply enough for the 1st of 2 applications, and didn't leave it 
on for a long enough amt of time. I was afraid I'd hurt her - she was 15 at the 
time and I wanted her to have a good QoL vs me proving anything. So the process 
was slower than what I'm told is normal. 

That cancer tho - nasty, ugly beast, squirming and oozing out! Pieces would 
sluff off, followed by long tentacles that never seemed to end! Freakin gross! 
So IMO, my point was proven anyway - salve is shtuff! 

We didn't complete the process b/c my girl had a stroke and passed in her sleep 
a few days later. This was about 5 months after the 1st application. (I applied 
it twice, a few days apart.) We were probably just getting past the middle of 
treatment, headed toward a positive end. 

A good resource that I found is Yahoo group: 
theblacksalveneoplasenecancerforum. The info there is helpful for humans and 
other animals, even tho neoplasene is essentially the canine equivalent for 
black salve. 

On a site note: if you go the neoplasene route for your animal, I've been told 
the doc who created it is an ass. So I went with black salve and spent $75 vs 
several hundred ++. From what I've read, he apparently has little regard for 
the comfort of the animal and is a major control freak. So most people I've 
'met' who use the product take his advice, usually via phone, and back down the 
dosage and add pain meds and their own soothing creams and ointments. 

At any rate, black salve is great. I also used it on some kind of spider(?) 
bite on my ankle. My ankle was swollen to nearly twice the size prior to salve, 
and the pain was excruciating - zero weight bearing, touching my toe was just 
about unbearable. I applied salve on a little red dot and within a day, the 
gauze was covered in smelly pus and the pain was gone. 2 days and my ankle was 
normal again. 

Also check out artemisinin, taken internally and/or applied in a cream directly 
on the cancer (or suspicious growth). There is a Yahoo group for that too. The 
research scientists (Linh? Is one) in WA who have studied it for years are very 
helpful and will provide exact dosage and dietary info. There are certain foods 
to avoid and recommended supplements to add. 

I researched, or rather read up on as much info as I could find re alt cancer 
cures. Black salve and artemisinin were amongst the best IMO, and the least 
expensive I could find. This was in 2009. 

Also check out Essiac Tea and turmeric. I added these, along with the Budwig 
protocol for Jasmine. And I detoxed with DE. 

Best of luck, whichever treatment you use! 

Teri and the Happy Hooligans 


-Original Message-
From: Dan Nave 
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 19:26:19 
To: 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

We've been using Freeze Spray for getting rid of this sort of thing
(ourselves) on the skin.

Probably best to see someone do it first.  Be careful on very thin skin,
nose, maybe ears...

Dan


<
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/skin-cancer/DS00190/DSECTION=treatments-and-drugs
>

Treatment for skin cancer and the precancerous skin lesions known as
actinic keratoses varies, depending on the size, type, depth and location
of the lesions. Small skin cancers limited to the surface of the skin may
not require treatment beyond an initial skin biopsy that removes the entire
growth.

If additional treatment is needed, options may include:

   - *Freezing.* Your doctor may destroy actinic keratoses and some small,
   early skin cancers by freezing them with liquid nitrogen (cryosurgery). The
   dead tissue sloughs off when it thaws.



On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Rusty  wrote:

>   Hi folks...has anyone got suggestions to get rid of skin
> cancer.(according to the determatologist ìt`s the good kind)  LOL
>
> ** **
>
> Kathleen
>

RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES...update

[Neville Munn]

Trying to find somewhere adequate to put an update so I picked this post, 
excuse me Melly .
Day 10...Vast improvement in general well being, pain level waaay down and 
only at one small patch on the back STILL.  Pain level has been decreasing over 
past two days I think but it's hard for a person to define when that person is 
suffering.  Personally, I believe that patch is being dealt with from the 
inside as no blisters have broken the skin, there were only a few but they seem 
to be disappearing from within, similar to the lads a while back.  I'm going to 
be presumptuous and say things are definitely on the up and up and recovery is 
under way.  Cough doesn't appear to be as bad today either, still there, but 
nowhere near as bad.
Still spraying areas and the clothing over those areas, still 200ml EIS morning 
and night, still only on Nurofen Plus for pain up 'til last night, we'll see 
what today and tonight brings.
Hopefully my 48 hour hunch may prove to be pretty much spot on in the scheme of 
things in second guessing EIS efficacy time line.  Why did I ever bloody doubt 
it?  Lapse in intelligent thinking!  Perhaps that's what happens when one is 
concerned for another?
My last post will probly be when recovery is absolutely, unquestionably and 
undeniably well under way and she's positively and most assuredly on the 
comeback trail.
Gotta say, at this point in time I'm getting quietly excited to see what the 
next few days bring .
Thanks for just being there and allowing me to ramble on people .
N.

From: tita_...@yahoo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 12:31:02 -0500
Subject: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES














Neville,

 

I take no offense if you want to prove CS will work on
shingles.  However, if you see those blisters coming around the other side of
the body go take her to Emergency Room…that can be fatal.



 






  

Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[Brickeyk]

Yes. Only works for malignant moles. A good way to tell if it is a problem. 
Brickey
 
 
In a message dated 8/24/2013 6:26:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
aney3...@gmail.com writes:

Can this  be used on suspicious moles?

Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[Anne Ney]

Can this be used on suspicious moles?

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 24, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Rowena  wrote:

> Black salve does "cut it out" - without damaging healthy tissue - the cancer 
> detaches from the surrounding tissue and exits.  We were shown a sketch of 
> how my husband's skin cancer would be 'cut out' - we opted for DIY precision 
> work, which enables the tiny thin 'tail' at the end to exit also.
> 
> This site is where I learnt about black salve, so I'm paying back.
> 
> Research the methods of using it.  Be careful, don't knock the top off - 
> though if you do, and bits remain behind and eventually grow again, you can 
> treat it again, once more without sacrificing surrounding tissue.
> 
> A friend of mine has had to use it many times for all the types of skin 
> cancer there are.  One took such a long time to exit she wondered what was 
> going on.  It was on her spine, and she had to go overseas to her sister to 
> get her to apply and care for it while it exited.  When it did eventually 
> exit, the "tentacles" were so long and curly she realised it had wound round 
> and round her spine - no amount of cutting it out would have left her 
> unharmed.  However, because black salve tends to leave a big scar site, she 
> now uses chickweed on a place that shows, though it is slower and more 
> horrible while it is working.
> 
> CS is useful for cleaning the area while the eschar emerges.  Last time I 
> used coconut oil for the whole care process; it took a very long time. 
> 
> There is so much info on line.  It is being banned in one country after 
> another.  Isn't that strange?
> 
> R
> 
> 
> On 25/08/2013 3:45 AM, Anne Ney wrote:
>> Has to be cut out...
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Aug 24, 2013, at 10:45 AM, "Rusty"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks...has anyone got suggestions to get rid of skin 
>>> cancer.(according to the determatologist ìt`s the good kind)  LOL
>>>  
>>> Kathleen
> 

Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[Roger Barker]

 
Sent from my iPad

On Aug 24, 2013, at 10:45 AM, "Rusty"  wrote:

Hi folks...has anyone got suggestions to get rid of skin cancer.(according 
to the determatologist ìt`s the good kind)  LOL
 
Kathleen

This came from DB some time ago and I'm sure he won't mind me passing it along.

Best wishes, Roger B
NZ


".. I no longer use black salve because of the pain associated with it. Now i 
use
Lugol's iodine and drive it into the tumor using ion exchange. Take a 6 or 9 
volt
battery and strap the positive terminal to any area on the body. Take a 330 ohm
resistor of any wattage and place it in series with the negative terminal of the
battery and apply Lugol's to a cotton ball and then place the negative lead into
the cotton ball and place it over the tumour. Apply daily for periods in excess 
of
20 minutes. The tumor will become fully saturated with the iodine solution and 
it
will quickly die and then sluff off. No pain and little to no scaring. The old 
medical
term for this process was called cataphoresis derived from the cathode or 
negative
terminal of a direct current power source ie., a battery. "

 All you need is a common 330 ohm resistor from Radio Shack, does not matter if 
it's 1/4 watt (tiny ones) or 1/2 watt. Just be sure you get 330 ohm,  NOT any 
other that says 33 or 33K, or 330K. Radio Shack sells these for $1.19 for a 
pack of 5.
 
Common resistors can have either end attached in any circuit, it does not 
matter which end, they are not directional.

Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[Rowena]

Black salve does "cut it out" - without damaging healthy tissue - the 
cancer detaches from the surrounding tissue and exits.  We were shown a 
sketch of how my husband's skin cancer would be 'cut out' - we opted for 
DIY precision work, which enables the tiny thin 'tail' at the end to 
exit also.


This site is where I learnt about black salve, so I'm paying back.

Research the methods of using it.  Be careful, don't knock the top off - 
though if you do, and bits remain behind and eventually grow again, you 
can treat it again, once more without sacrificing surrounding tissue.


A friend of mine has had to use it many times for all the types of skin 
cancer there are.  One took such a long time to exit she wondered what 
was going on.  It was on her spine, and she had to go overseas to her 
sister to get her to apply and care for it while it exited.  When it did 
eventually exit, the "tentacles" were so long and curly she realised it 
had wound round and round her spine - no amount of cutting it out would 
have left her unharmed.  However, because black salve tends to leave a 
big scar site, she now uses chickweed on a place that shows, though it 
is slower and more horrible while it is working.


CS is useful for cleaning the area while the eschar emerges.  Last time 
I used coconut oil for the whole care process; it took a very long time.


There is so much info on line.  It is being banned in one country after 
another.  Isn't that strange?


R


On 25/08/2013 3:45 AM, Anne Ney wrote:

Has to be cut out...

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 24, 2013, at 10:45 AM, "Rusty" > wrote:


Hi folks...has anyone got suggestions to get rid of skin 
cancer.(according to the determatologist ìt`s the good kind) LOL


Kathleen

Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[Bruce Anderson]

With the "Godzilla unit (6volt lantern battery) I got rid of basal cell 
(the good kind), pre cancer, and a bad kind, all with repeated use and 
polarity reversal.  It took a while but it worked.

Bruce A.


On 8/24/2013 8:26 PM, Dan Nave wrote:


We've been using Freeze Spray for getting rid of this sort of thing 
(ourselves) on the skin.


Probably best to see someone do it first.  Be careful on very thin 
skin, nose, maybe ears...


Dan




Treatment for skin cancer and the precancerous skin lesions known as 
actinic keratoses varies, depending on the size, type, depth and 
location of the lesions. Small skin cancers limited to the surface of 
the skin may not require treatment beyond an initial skin biopsy that 
removes the entire growth.


If additional treatment is needed, options may include:

  * *Freezing.* Your doctor may destroy actinic keratoses and some
small, early skin cancers by freezing them with liquid nitrogen
(cryosurgery). The dead tissue sloughs off when it thaws.



On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Rusty > wrote:


Hi folks...has anyone got suggestions to get rid of skin
cancer.(according to the determatologist ìt`s the good kind)  LOL

Kathleen

Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[Dan Nave]

We've been using Freeze Spray for getting rid of this sort of thing
(ourselves) on the skin.

Probably best to see someone do it first.  Be careful on very thin skin,
nose, maybe ears...

Dan


<
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/skin-cancer/DS00190/DSECTION=treatments-and-drugs
>

Treatment for skin cancer and the precancerous skin lesions known as
actinic keratoses varies, depending on the size, type, depth and location
of the lesions. Small skin cancers limited to the surface of the skin may
not require treatment beyond an initial skin biopsy that removes the entire
growth.

If additional treatment is needed, options may include:

   - *Freezing.* Your doctor may destroy actinic keratoses and some small,
   early skin cancers by freezing them with liquid nitrogen (cryosurgery). The
   dead tissue sloughs off when it thaws.



On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 10:45 AM, Rusty  wrote:

>   Hi folks...has anyone got suggestions to get rid of skin
> cancer.(according to the determatologist ìt`s the good kind)  LOL
>
> ** **
>
> Kathleen
>

Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[Vigilius Haufniensis]

Black Salve.


On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Anne Ney  wrote:

> Has to be cut out...
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Aug 24, 2013, at 10:45 AM, "Rusty"  wrote:
>
>  Hi folks...has anyone got suggestions to get rid of skin
> cancer.(according to the determatologist ìt`s the good kind)  LOL
>
> ** **
>
> Kathleen
>
>

Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[Anne Ney]

Has to be cut out...

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 24, 2013, at 10:45 AM, "Rusty"  wrote:

> Hi folks...has anyone got suggestions to get rid of skin 
> cancer.(according to the determatologist ìt`s the good kind)  LOL
>  
> Kathleen

Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[phoenix23002 tds.net]

Speaking of Tel, has anyone heard from him lately?  Hope he is getting
along ok.   Lola H.


On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:58 PM, PT Ferrance  wrote:

> That would be my recommendation also.  Tel is a member here.
> The big black salve maker is Cansema at altcancer.com
> Which ever you choose just make sure to follow the directions well.
> Good luck.
> PT
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* "brick...@aol.com" 
> *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 24, 2013 11:58 AM
> *Subject:* Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer
>
>  Black Salve worked for one on  the top of my ear. Purchased from
> quailwoodher...@cableone.net. Cost $25. Rife has frequencies that treat
> it also.
> Brickey
>
>  In a message dated 8/24/2013 8:45:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> ru...@kathleensplace.net writes:
>
>  Hi folks...has anyone got suggestions to get rid of skin
> cancer.(according to the determatologist ìt`s the good kind)  LOL
>
> Kathleen
>
>
>
>

Re: CS>CS:> shingles ,etc

[Jane MacRoss]

Tara - you just put it in their drinking water - for their teeth?

Jane


Ive been freely supplying the CS to my Burmese and Persion
pet cats.  All had some issue or  other either teeth or sinuskor both.
All related.
The CS has been keeping them healed and happy ever since I started  to
make  it myself.
Couldnt be better.
Tara


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Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[PT Ferrance]

That would be my recommendation also.  Tel is a member here.
The big black salve maker is Cansema at altcancer.com
Which ever you choose just make sure to follow the directions well.
Good luck.
PT





 From: "brick...@aol.com" 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer
 


Black Salve worked for one on  the top of my ear. Purchased from 
quailwoodher...@cableone.net. 
Cost $25. Rife has frequencies that treat it also.
Brickey
 
In a message dated 8/24/2013 8:45:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
ru...@kathleensplace.net writes:
Hi folks...has  anyone got suggestions to get rid of skin cancer.(according 
to the  determatologist ìt`s the good kind)  LOL
> 
>Kathleen

Re: CS>CS:> shingles ,etc

[Sandee George]

Thanks Harold, I concur with every word you have written here, it is good to be 
in the progressive and open minded club for sure We both deserve all 
the good there is to be had - continue the good work for you and allow all the 
others to find their own way - Blessings
Sandee🐬
Attitude is Everything !
Colloidal Silver Products
Organo Gold Healthy Coffee

Re: CS>CS:> shingles ,etc

[123 456]

Hi Harold..
thanks for that.
Ive been freely supplying the CS to my Burmese and Persion
pet cats.  All had some issue or  other either teeth or sinuskor both.
All related.
The CS has been keeping them healed and happy ever since I started  to
make  it myself.
Couldnt be better.
Tara

On 8/24/13, Harold  wrote:
> This forum has to be one of the best!
> I can count on the fingers of two hands the number of family,friends,etc who
> don’t think I am a nut bar.I’m in my 90th year now and have,off and on,since
> I was a young teen, been on this health food kick.There was an elderly
> neighbour who was well up on the use of plants and herbs.It was a boon to me
> a few times when they saw to my good recovery.
> The ones who are following my lead are some of the most important to me,ie:
> my Daughter,son-in law,her daughter,her husband, my three great grand
> daughters.
> I have given up trying to influence other
> relatives,friends,neighbours,etc.,as a waste of time, they are addicted to
> the system.
> This daughter breeds and raises champion Dalmations;and my CS’EIS;and other
> supplements to their diet figures prominently in their health and beautiful
> coats.
>
> Best to all;
>
> Harold


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RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT 1 AM WHAT DOES CS -- that is EIS do???? My answer here Correct me if Im wrong

[Judy Knowlton]

EIS is called a BIOCIDE because it kills living
one cell organisms
Virus, bacteria, fungus and yeast --
hence it's great for MANY things that ail you.
Siblings who lived in an old row-house in Jersey
City grew up with asthma
ONE nebulizer Tx with my EIS and there was
noticeable improvement.
Years of battling mold?  My logical suspicion!!!
They bought Silver puppies immediately.
JDM


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-Original Message-
From: Gail Naranjo [mailto:wanda85...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 11:46 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT
1 AM


For some reason (don't know where I've been all
these years) I thought CS worked for bacterial
infection and didn't realize it also works for
viruses. lol  I've been using CS for a good 10
years or more.  I thought it was more like and
antibiotic.   I have to laugh at myself.

Live and learn! 

Gail


From: Judy Knowlton 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT
1 AM


 Shingles is a virus, yes? CS works, yes?

Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[123 456]

try some hemp oil that  is infused (warmed up) with tumeric, eclipta
albe and southlandia frutecense (cancer bush) youcould use the
courcamin capsules for greater concentration if need be.
all these suggestion are woth trying.
raise the vibrational level  of the wound site  with  lavender and rose oils.
get European distilled or the youngliving oils if you are in us.
they are the mostreliable quality.
let us know how any  of these ideas work$
best wishes
Tara

On 8/24/13, Sandee George  wrote:
> OK Kathleen - I hear you - what I have used and found to be effective for me
> is - viniger applied to the spots
> lemongrass essential oil also applied directly to the spots and my gel which
> is a transporter and works well
> with just about everything - give it a shot and good luck
> Regards
> Sandee🐬
> Attitude is Everything !
> Colloidal Silver Products
> Organo Gold Healthy Coffee
>
>
>
>


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Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[Sandee George]

OK Kathleen - I hear you - what I have used and found to be effective for me is 
- viniger applied to the spots
lemongrass essential oil also applied directly to the spots and my gel which is 
a transporter and works well
with just about everything - give it a shot and good luck 
Regards
Sandee🐬
Attitude is Everything !
Colloidal Silver Products
Organo Gold Healthy Coffee

CS>CS:> shingles ,etc

[Harold]

This forum has to be one of the best!
I can count on the fingers of two hands the number of family,friends,etc who 
don’t think I am a nut bar.I’m in my 90th year now and have,off and on,since I 
was a young teen, been on this health food kick.There was an elderly neighbour 
who was well up on the use of plants and herbs.It was a boon to me a few times 
when they saw to my good recovery.
The ones who are following my lead are some of the most important to me,ie: my 
Daughter,son-in law,her daughter,her husband, my three great grand daughters.
I have given up trying to influence other relatives,friends,neighbours,etc.,as 
a waste of time, they are addicted to the system.
This daughter breeds and raises champion Dalmations;and my CS’EIS;and other 
supplements to their diet figures prominently in their health and beautiful 
coats.

Best to all;

Harold

Re: CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[Brickeyk]

Black Salve worked for one on  the top of my ear. Purchased from 
_quailwoodherbal@cableone.net_ (mailto:quailwoodher...@cableone.net) .  Cost 
$25. Rife 
has frequencies that treat it also.
Brickey
 
 
In a message dated 8/24/2013 8:45:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ru...@kathleensplace.net writes:

 
Hi folks...has  anyone got suggestions to get rid of skin 
cancer.(according to the  determatologist ìt`s the good kind)  LOL 
Kathleen

Re: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT 1 AM

[Gail Naranjo]

For some reason (don't know where I've been all these years) I thought CS 
worked for bacterial infection and didn't realize it also works for viruses. 
lol  I've been using CS for a good 10 years or more.  I thought it was more 
like and antibiotic.   I have to laugh at myself.
 
Live and learn! 
 
Gail

From: Judy Knowlton 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 10:46 PM
Subject: RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT 1 AM

 
 Shingles is a virus, yes? CS works, yes? 

CS>any suggestions for skin cancer

[Rusty]

Hi folks...has anyone got suggestions to get rid of skin
cancer.(according to the determatologist ìt`s the good kind)  LOL

 

Kathleen

RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT 1 AM #2

[Judy Knowlton]

Neville -- are you the member in Australia? I've
forgotten
EIS -- for Electrolic(sic?) Ionic Silver?   Or
...?

My best wishes to your wife. I was in our local
pharmacy recently sitting on a lovely leather
chair -- it being civilized, low-key Maine--
waiting to talk to the pharmacist about some
supplements, while 2 women spent $200 plus each
for the vaccine.  They were unwittingly reminding
me to make some more EIS for my little stock. I
had chicken pox at age 9. Only 7 "pops" were ever
found on my body, although my 5 year old brother
was COVERED. One never forgets! The question is,
what does the severity of my disease mean re
Shingles? (My brother is no longer living so the
complete evidence is unavailable 

May I add another thought? Again, my apologies to
EVERYone for not keeping up with the details in
these emails!

I have always suggested 4 to 6 equal doses a day
spaced about equal hours apart during waking hours
on an "empty stomach' Last one just before sleep.
Perhaps one in middle of night if the person
commonly gets up to pee or something -- as lil ole
ladies seem to!
Our (my son's and mine) theory has been that the
body removes EIS rather quickly through the
kidneys, so to maintain a level, less per dose
and more often is better -- not a roller-coaster.
(I have no evidence of the truth of that
statement!!!)
JDM

___
JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
is a quote from my biography
"Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
Written by me, "Judy K."
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 10:34 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT
1 AM #2


I don't know what to say, other than to say *Thank
You* for putting a human touch to such a cold and
impersonal communication medium.


I'll take the liberty of giving a brief update
report in this reply.


I have to say things are looking pretty good to
date, 9 days since *something* became evident, 6
days since my diagnosis on visual observation and
5 days since doctors confirmation.  Since speaking
with you earlier I have upped the dose again to
250ml twice a day whilst spraying on affected
areas, and clothing over those areas.  It would
seem we are getting on top of it, another 48 hours
hopefully will result in recovery becoming more
obvious or apparent, pain appears to be lessening,
still one small area on the back which seems to be
still trying to break out, area on the stomach is
dry and covered in scabs.  Stomach scab area is
getting rather itchy which means things are
healing.  A terrible fluid cough has suddenly
developed which is aggravating the whole thing
{not sure if that's Herx?} although she is feeling
decidedly better in herself.  If it IS Herx, I
expect it to disappear as suddenly as it came, a
few days perhaps.


There is no other place one can discuss such
matters or get support other than among you folk
as everyone around us here thinks this is pure
unadulterated quackery and I am the village idiot,
hence I am a rather solitary animal among my peers
here with my beliefs, so I hope I am not taking
liberties or stepping out of line by continuing
these reports on this List.  I figure how else
will anyone know with any degree of certainty if
my EIS protocol actually worked or reduced time
frame to recovery?  Anyhow, this will end and be
overwith soon enough and I will thus return to the
rock I am usually under .


Thank You one and all.



I believe the 'EIS' term was created by people on
this List to specifically separate and detach our
product from the more commercialised 'CS'
products - there IS a difference, and that makes
ALL the difference to me.


N.



--
--
From: judydownma...@roadrunner.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT
1 AM #2
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 06:38:32 -0400




Should I be using the term EIS?
With friends, I write and say C-Silver because
then I don't need to keep explaining to those who
aren't in-the-Know. I have a darling round sticker
for the top of my bottles with a picture of an
ocean wave and only the words C-Silver and my
phone number. Any "sales" are at $3 a pint. I'm
only "in" for help and health.
JudyDownMaine

RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES

[Neville Munn]

That's certainly good to hear PT, that you have interrupted it, a good little 
confidence booster, although we don't have an acupuncturist here I don't think, 
particularly a good one.  Those who have the most money get the best care, and 
that care only comes from the city and not where we live, so we strike out on 
both counts .
I am confident we are winning with the EIS however.
N.

Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 07:24:44 -0700
From: ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

That is not true Neville.  I have interrupted the "natural course" of shingles 
with acupuncture.  You just have to find an acupuncturist who know what they 
are doing.
Blessings,  PT


From: Neville Munn 
 To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
 Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:04 PM
 Subject: RE: CS>HORRIBLE
 SHINGLES
   





Well I guess if a bloke's going to test something there's no point in doing so 
without including opinions.
I am forming the opinion that although this case is improving, Shingles may 
have a natural course it must take, and nothing really assists in the recovery.
I'm beginning to form an opinion that EIS does not necessarily speed recovery, 
nor reduce severity, nor assist in any way other than by spraying it on may 
assist in the healing of the sores and prevent possible infection from clothing 
materials, and of course not forgetting assisting in skin tissue repair.
This is why I questioned the 'severity' definition in trying to determine 
efficacy and recovery in any given protocol applied to any given case of 
Shingles i.e. Mild, Moderate, Bad or Severe etc?  I knocked it out in our lad 
in a week, this case appears to be lessening at this point in time...BUT,
 how long does one usually have Shingles?  Perhaps a time line, or defining 
each case in determining severity level which is an indicator of recovery time 
line, i.e. a week, two weeks, a month, or maybe longer dependant on severity 
level?
I bumped up the intake to 200 odd ml twice a day as well as spraying on areas.  
And here's where that bloody blue media propaganda raises its ugly stupid head 
and lingers in the back of the mind, and that really p*sses me off.  Similar to 
that Jaws movie, just can't erase it from the mind, a weakness in character and 
lowering of intelligence.  I try things using myself as a guinea pig but tend 
to allow doubts to creep in with someone else, I don't particularly care about 
myself because *someone* has to do it, but I do care about others.
One *MUST* stand firm in the knowledge that the media, the establishment, the 
FDA, our TGA, past cases of smurfism
 etc etc are *NOT* and do *NOT* reference the substance we produce and use, 
it's chalk and cheese, apples and oranges, HVAC vs LVDC, high particle content 
vs high Ag+ ion content.
I've been ingesting around 30ml every day for nigh on 10 years and I haven't 
yet changed to any shade of blue, and trust me, we get plenty of sun here as 
I'm sure they do most anywhere else on this planet, so if I was going to 'self 
develop' I would imagine I would have done so long before this.
It's really difficult when we are brainwashed and conditioned throughout our 
lives to conform or believe what published material, or these so called 
'authorities?' try to force us to believe, and it bugs me that I find myself 
STILL getting sucked into that BS hole as well.  I have to constantly remind 
myself of that Bob Newhart Youtube skit - - - STOP IT!  Hence the only answer 
is to experiment with oneself and/or with
 those whom are willing.
Just venting some inadequacies in independent thinking here.
N.

From: one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:57:40 +1030




I beli  
  


  

RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT 1 AM #2

[Neville Munn]

I don't know what to say, other than to say *Thank You* for putting a human 
touch to such a cold and impersonal communication medium.
I'll take the liberty of giving a brief update report in this reply.
I have to say things are looking pretty good to date, 9 days since *something* 
became evident, 6 days since my diagnosis on visual observation and 5 days 
since doctors confirmation.  Since speaking with you earlier I have upped the 
dose again to 250ml twice a day whilst spraying on affected areas, and clothing 
over those areas.  It would seem we are getting on top of it, another 48 hours 
hopefully will result in recovery becoming more obvious or apparent, pain 
appears to be lessening, still one small area on the back which seems to be 
still trying to break out, area on the stomach is dry and covered in scabs.  
Stomach scab area is getting rather itchy which means things are healing.  A 
terrible fluid cough has suddenly developed which is aggravating the whole 
thing {not sure if that's Herx?} although she is feeling decidedly better in 
herself.  If it IS Herx, I expect it to disappear as suddenly as it came, a few 
days perhaps.
There is no other place one can discuss such matters or get support other than 
among you folk as everyone around us here thinks this is pure unadulterated 
quackery and I am the village idiot, hence I am a rather solitary animal among 
my peers here with my beliefs, so I hope I am not taking liberties or stepping 
out of line by continuing these reports on this List.  I figure how else will 
anyone know with any degree of certainty if my EIS protocol actually worked or 
reduced time frame to recovery?  Anyhow, this will end and be overwith soon 
enough and I will thus return to the rock I am usually under .
Thank You one and all.

I believe the 'EIS' term was created by people on this List to specifically 
separate and detach our product from the more commercialised 'CS' products - 
there IS a difference, and that makes ALL the difference to me.
N.
From: judydownma...@roadrunner.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT 1 AM #2
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 06:38:32 -0400










Should I be using 
the term EIS?  
With friends, I 
write and say C-Silver because then I don't need to keep explaining to those 
who 
aren't in-the-Know. I have a darling round 
sticker for the top of my bottles with a picture of an ocean wave and only the 
words C-Silver and my phone number. Any "sales" are at $3 a pint. I'm only "in" 
for help and health.
JudyDownMaine
 






  

Re: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES

[PT Ferrance]

That is not true Neville.  I have interrupted the "natural course" of shingles 
with acupuncture.  You just have to find an acupuncturist who know what they 
are doing.
Blessings,  PT





 From: Neville Munn 
To: "silver-list@eskimo.com"  
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:04 PM
Subject: RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES
 


 

Well I guess if a bloke's going to test something there's no point in doing so 
without including opinions.

I am forming the opinion that although this case is improving, Shingles may 
have a natural course it must take, and nothing really assists in the recovery.

I'm beginning to form an opinion that EIS does not necessarily speed recovery, 
nor reduce severity, nor assist in any way other than by spraying it on may 
assist in the healing of the sores and prevent possible infection from clothing 
materials, and of course not forgetting assisting in skin tissue repair.

This is why I questioned the 'severity' definition in trying to determine 
efficacy and recovery in any given protocol applied to any given case of 
Shingles i.e. Mild, Moderate, Bad or Severe etc?  I knocked it out in our lad 
in a week, this case appears to be lessening at this point in time...BUT, how 
long does one usually have Shingles?  Perhaps a time line, or defining each 
case in determining severity level which is an indicator of recovery time line, 
i.e. a week, two weeks, a month, or maybe longer dependant on severity level?

I bumped up the intake to 200 odd ml twice a day as well as spraying on areas.  
And here's where that bloody blue media propaganda raises its ugly stupid head 
and lingers in the back of the mind, and that really p*sses me off.  Similar to 
that Jaws movie, just can't erase it from the mind, a weakness in character and 
lowering of intelligence.  I try things using myself as a guinea pig but tend 
to allow doubts to creep in with someone else, I don't particularly care about 
myself because *someone* has to do it, but I do care about others.

One *MUST* stand firm in the knowledge that the media, the establishment, the 
FDA, our TGA, past cases of smurfism etc etc are *NOT* and do *NOT* reference 
the substance we produce and use, it's chalk and cheese, apples and oranges, 
HVAC vs LVDC, high particle content vs high Ag+ ion content.

I've been ingesting around 30ml every day for nigh on 10 years and I haven't 
yet changed to any shade of blue, and trust me, we get plenty of sun here as 
I'm sure they do most anywhere else on this planet, so if I was going to 'self 
develop' I would imagine I would have done so long before this.

It's really difficult when we are brainwashed and conditioned throughout our 
lives to conform or believe what published material, or these so called 
'authorities?' try to force us to believe, and it bugs me that I find myself 
STILL getting sucked into that BS hole as well.  I have to constantly remind 
myself of that Bob Newhart Youtube skit - - - STOP IT!  Hence the only answer 
is to experiment with oneself and/or with those whom are willing.

Just venting some inadequacies in independent thinking here.

N.





From: one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 13:57:40 +1030

 
I beli 

RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT 1 AM #2

[Judy Knowlton]

To fill in my "story"  a bit -- it now being 6:20
AM and our tiny town (1600 pop. -- more in summah)
church has magnificent breakfasts every Saturday.
This is the next to last for the season, and I
meet friends at 7 AM. I'm a recovering alcoholic
(43 years active in AA) was a counselor in NJ and
PA for 21 years, now retired, widow, and in Maine.
I am VERY anti-Big Pharma drugs because I wish to
protect my sobriety and most are "mood-changers"
for me, and therefore could trigger "stinkin'
thinkin' that leads to drinkin' "  I don't
believe -- yes, Neville, it is "belief" because
I've not had Shingles myself -- that early catch
means early cure.  I see no reason to be in
horrible pain.
I must also assume that a "little" CS regularly
would wipe out any emerging Shingles virus. I do a
quarter cup on Sunday mornings.
Should I be using the term EIS?
With friends, I write and say C-Silver because
then I don't need to keep explaining to those who
aren't in-the-Know. I have a darling round sticker
for the top of my bottles with a picture of an
ocean wave and only the words C-Silver and my
phone number. Any "sales" are at $3 a pint. I'm
only "in" for help and health.
JudyDownMaine

___
JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
is a quote from my biography
"Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
Written by me, "Judy K."
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 2:14 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT
1 AM



That's a great story Judy.


Wow, you don't know how glad I am to hear someone
else holds a similar philosophy to mine regarding
"flooding it both topically and internally", or as
I say "hard and fast", it helps one to not lose
faith in what they believe, a little morale
booster doesn't hurt now and again .


Thanks for that, you enjoy a good nights sleep and
I'll have a good day .


N.



--
--
From: judydownma...@roadrunner.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES -- BUTTING IN AT
1 AM
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2013 01:46:10 -0400


I have noticed all the Shingles emails
This letter was triggered by the first lines of
Neville's letter below
"Shingles may have a natural course it must take,
and nothing really assists in the recovery."
I cannot believe this is so.  Shingles is a virus,
yes? CS works, yes? I would flood and drown it!
(so to speak) both topically and internally.
Have done so with MRSA for friends also.
Well, now I think I can sleep (grin)
JudyDownMaine

___
JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light
is a quote from my biography
"Patched, A Spiritual Memoir"
Written by me, "Judy K."
Happily available on Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: Neville Munn [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:04 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>HORRIBLE SHINGLES



Well I guess if a bloke's going to test something
there's no point in doing so without including
opinions.