CS>Spirochetes or virus...
Dear Silvia, Where are u located? I read your email about your problems with Lyme disease. We have here in Mexicali Mexico and in Tijuana Mexico 2 David Kanzenbach machines, One Vibroclast machine and 2 Rife/Bare machines for the treatment of L.D. We have in Los Algodones one HBOT for the treatment of neurological diseases, mostly degeneratives or "incurable" labeled by the Classic medicine. I am an M.D. dedicated mostly for the treatment of Cancer and AIDS, with EXCELLENT results on both. I cannot share with you some data due to a non-disclosure agreement with D.K. and A. Immunotech, but you can talk with a lot of patients "in spontaneous remission" from Cancer, L.D. AIDS, Diabetes (Yes cured with autohemotherapy according to protocol from Dr. Jorge Ramirez) http://www.labnunez.com.mx/jorge.htm Please go to: http://www.geocities.com/hotsprings/falls/7388/index.html http://www.geocities.com/hotsprings/falls/7388/cinco/ded.html Alex Torres M.D. Mexico/California Cancer treatment and Research dr_ca...@doctor.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Colloidal silver buy it... help us.
Dear List, Here is my report after 2 years of using colloidal silver: We established an standard of 25 drops of colloidal silver commercial grade, 40 ppm in 125 ml . of water 3 times a day. No antibiotics were used or other therapies. In 3 years we evaluated the production, risks, and finally the buying/selling of colloidal silver. We treated 89 patients with various diseases, from cancer to tonsillitis, and on those patients we found: 23 patients afflicted with diarrhea due to the ingestion of contaminated food: 10 patients response total disappearing of infection symptoms: No more fever, diarrhea, vomit, or nausea after just 2 oral dosis. 3 patients needed intravenous fluids (were very dehydrated) and the symptoms relapsed in 5 days. 25 patients (teens, babies, adults) with tonsillitis acute stage relapsed symptoms of fever, throat pain, arthritis, with 3 days of using colloidal silver. No analgesics or desinflamatory drugs were used. We discovered no more relapses of the disease for almost 2 months. Some patients reported that after the use of antibiotics, they were free of symptoms sometimes 1 week, no more. 40 patients suffering acute kidney and bladder infection, were treated for a period of time of 10 days, same dosage, ALL the urine cultures were negative, no more relapses of the infection. 1 patient with prostatic cancer showed some improvement of the bleeding and urgency for urination, just after one dosage of C.S. He followed a round of 29 electrotherapeutic sessions with the D.K. machine. No detectable cancer with biopsy, cancer markers and x-rays. He is the only one taking daily same dosage of C.S for 8 non interrupted months Adverse reactions: None NO ARGYRIA is reported. We started to produce our own colloidal silver, first with a low voltage generator, later with an 14,000 volts AC generator, but we discovered that we were spending a lot of time, not fulfilling the quantities necessary for the medical trial, and we cannot get more than 20 ppm. and those batches of c.S. were sometimes inconsistent in concentration with our measurements at the spectroscopy. We found that 20 ppm is a weak concentration to cure something, it helps but do not destroys or cures. We switched to a commercial laboratory, that lead us consistent 40 ppm and since it was cheap that product (4 dollars each bottle of 15 ml.) we started to give that C.S. to our patients. The results were constant, the effectiveness were predictable, and since that this laboratory sells this C.S. in Mexico since 1975, and no reports of argyria, we were delighted not to have the mess to produce C.S. for this trial. The selling of C.S. from this laboratory is only to get some funds for our non-profit clinic For treating AIDS and Cancer at Mexicali and Tijuana, Mexico. Thank you very much for your time. Alex Torres M.D. Mexico/California Cancer treatment and Research http://www.geocities.com/hotsprings/falls/7388/cinco/ded.html dr_ca...@doctor.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Zappers
Dear Katie, According to our data, 70% of patients that abandon the treatment of electrotherapy, the next time they use it FOR THE SAME PROBLEM, it is hard to get a good response and sometimes the treatment is ineffective. This is more notorious in cancer patients. With our treatments, using the High voltage electrodes on the tumors, we got say 95% reduction in size, improvement in ALL the corporal functions and feelings, but if they abandon the treatment, and re-start in 2 weeks or more, we discovered that the tumors re-grows and are really hard (if not impossible) to reduce in size and symptoms. (Pain, consistence and mobility) Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: Katie Jay [mailto:kj...@erols.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 8:40 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Zappers If I've already interrupted the zapper treatment for a week or so, does that mean it won't be effective anymore? Thanks, Katie - Original Message - From: "Alex C. Torres" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 1:55 PM Subject: RE: CS>Zappers > The suggestion that to use the zapper UNINTERRUPTED is really CRITICAL, you > must not stop using it for any reason because this treatments develops a > resistance to the use of electricity and frequencies, and no matter what you > do if it gets interrupted the results or effectiveness are minimal if not > zero due to the body get accustomed to this treatment. I compare this effect > as the treatments we gave for tuberculosis. If the patient stops or skips > some doses the treatment becomes non effective due to strains resistant to > the treatment. We find this effect on our patients, no matter which zapper > you use (High or low voltage) if stopped, no results any more. > Alex Torres M.D. > P.S. I know some persons that take medicines for years and never stops > taking them, as the date, we cannot found any negative effects using > electricity on the body, that's the reason to recommend to use it > indefinitely. > > -Original Message- > From: Bob Squires [mailto:rj...@dialnet.net] > Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:58 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>Zappers > > > > Jeff Madore; > > Jeff , > The problem with the dime is the concentrated surface area . > We supply our Zappers with about 4 1/2 " of 5/8 -7/8 OD copper > tube as hand holds . These are covered with a couple of wraps of wet > paper towels. I just tear one towel in half wrap it around and wet it . > normal treatment time is 7-10 min on and 20 min or so off repeated three > times or more a day, One session in the morning and another in the > evening works fine . I personally think the zapper and the CS machine > used together is the best treatment for disease there is or ever has > been and that more people are cured of serious disease by this method > than all of the others put together . I also think that the prescription > drugs sold over the counter for huge amounts of money constitute the > greatest fraud there ever has been . > Your machine should be putting out from 4 1/2 to 5 dc > volts . this is not representative of what is going on but just a quick > easy check.. Concerning treatment those I know who have been cured of > serious diseases have used the Zapper every day some twice a day and > taken a quart of 5 PPM CS ,at the minimum, every day . Even those who > have just come off of chemo therapy and been told there is no hope have > been totally healed in five to six weeks. These treatments must be used > in continued un broken fashion . After all what else is there that those > who are not wealthy can afford. > > Best wishes for your recovery > > Bob > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
RE: CS>Zappers
The suggestion that to use the zapper UNINTERRUPTED is really CRITICAL, you must not stop using it for any reason because this treatments develops a resistance to the use of electricity and frequencies, and no matter what you do if it gets interrupted the results or effectiveness are minimal if not zero due to the body get accustomed to this treatment. I compare this effect as the treatments we gave for tuberculosis. If the patient stops or skips some doses the treatment becomes non effective due to strains resistant to the treatment. We find this effect on our patients, no matter which zapper you use (High or low voltage) if stopped, no results any more. Alex Torres M.D. P.S. I know some persons that take medicines for years and never stops taking them, as the date, we cannot found any negative effects using electricity on the body, that's the reason to recommend to use it indefinitely. -Original Message- From: Bob Squires [mailto:rj...@dialnet.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 5:58 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Zappers Jeff Madore; Jeff , The problem with the dime is the concentrated surface area . We supply our Zappers with about 4 1/2 " of 5/8 -7/8 OD copper tube as hand holds . These are covered with a couple of wraps of wet paper towels. I just tear one towel in half wrap it around and wet it . normal treatment time is 7-10 min on and 20 min or so off repeated three times or more a day, One session in the morning and another in the evening works fine . I personally think the zapper and the CS machine used together is the best treatment for disease there is or ever has been and that more people are cured of serious disease by this method than all of the others put together . I also think that the prescription drugs sold over the counter for huge amounts of money constitute the greatest fraud there ever has been . Your machine should be putting out from 4 1/2 to 5 dc volts . this is not representative of what is going on but just a quick easy check.. Concerning treatment those I know who have been cured of serious diseases have used the Zapper every day some twice a day and taken a quart of 5 PPM CS ,at the minimum, every day . Even those who have just come off of chemo therapy and been told there is no hope have been totally healed in five to six weeks. These treatments must be used in continued un broken fashion . After all what else is there that those who are not wealthy can afford. Best wishes for your recovery Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>DHEA
Nancy, I believe I made a mistake sending an attached word file to the list, I apologize but was not my intention, I found that all the replies goes to the silver-list not to the recipient. I can connect from the message, maybe you need to copy and paste the address to your browser. But If you send me your email address I will attach the file in word format that contains the web page with the info... My email: compu_...@prodigy.net Sorry Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: Black [mailto:dbl...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 3:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>DHEA Dr. Torres, I am interested in Cell Food & DHEA but cannot get your web site to come up. Please give me your Email Address so I can contact you, or tell me how to access your web site. Thanks, Nancy - Original Message - From: Alex C. Torres To: ; Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 8:32 PM Subject: RE: CS>DHEA > Dear Marshall and Bob, > My MOM was really sick, I diagnosed her with a pneumonia and pleuritis > (chronic) She suffered this disease for about 3 years (The pleuritis) and > she never complained, but the complication with pneumonia produced very > alarming symptoms. I made an X-Ray picture of the lungs showing the problem. > Gave her antibiotics, and non steroids anti-inflammatory medicine. She > improved say 70% but the symptoms remained. > I gave her Cell Food (The complete kit) the concentrated, the multivitamins > the silica, and the DHEA formulas. > In two days the pain gone, she started to breath really well and... her gray > hair was transforming in black hair, it started to grow again (she had > allopecia), the skin at hands was without wrinkles, same the face. she > started to move and walk and to EAT (The last 2 years she ate really poor) > she felt energetic and start to walk around the corner (right now she walks > 3 miles daily) Her age 85 years old. I repeated the X Rays; No signs of the > lung problem, and the bad breath (You cannot talk with her because she had a > very strong halitosis) disappeared. The miracle was made with all of this, > but the results were accelerated or consolidated with the use of Cell Food. > Just my report. > Alex Torres M.D. > P.S. I have a non-profit clinic in Tijuana and Mexicali for the treatment of > Cancer and AIDS, and we get some fiduciary help selling Cell Food and other > anti-cancer natural compounds. If interested please follow all the links and > go to: > www.healthmall.com/www/Shop/Index.cfm?s=169&FuseAction=TermsOfService > Is in Spanish, but look for the "English" word for a more deep explanation. > other link: if this do not work) > www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Falls/7388/cinco/descripcion_en_detalle.htm#2 > > > -Original Message- > From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] > Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 8:20 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>DHEA > > > I just received "The Micro Silver Bullet", and in it Dr. Paul Farber > discusses DHEA. > He says "blocks cancer and cardiovascular disease and it retards aging." > > Anyone here have any experience with it? I had never heard of it before. > > Thanks, > > Marshall > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
RE: CS>DHEA
Dear Marshall and Bob, My MOM was really sick, I diagnosed her with a pneumonia and pleuritis (chronic) She suffered this disease for about 3 years (The pleuritis) and she never complained, but the complication with pneumonia produced very alarming symptoms. I made an X-Ray picture of the lungs showing the problem. Gave her antibiotics, and non steroids anti-inflammatory medicine. She improved say 70% but the symptoms remained. I gave her Cell Food (The complete kit) the concentrated, the multivitamins the silica, and the DHEA formulas. In two days the pain gone, she started to breath really well and... her gray hair was transforming in black hair, it started to grow again (she had allopecia), the skin at hands was without wrinkles, same the face. she started to move and walk and to EAT (The last 2 years she ate really poor) she felt energetic and start to walk around the corner (right now she walks 3 miles daily) Her age 85 years old. I repeated the X Rays; No signs of the lung problem, and the bad breath (You cannot talk with her because she had a very strong halitosis) disappeared. The miracle was made with all of this, but the results were accelerated or consolidated with the use of Cell Food. Just my report. Alex Torres M.D. P.S. I have a non-profit clinic in Tijuana and Mexicali for the treatment of Cancer and AIDS, and we get some fiduciary help selling Cell Food and other anti-cancer natural compounds. If interested please follow all the links and go to: www.healthmall.com/www/Shop/Index.cfm?s=169&FuseAction=TermsOfService Is in Spanish, but look for the "English" word for a more deep explanation. other link: if this do not work) www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Falls/7388/cinco/descripcion_en_detalle.htm#2 -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 8:20 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>DHEA I just received "The Micro Silver Bullet", and in it Dr. Paul Farber discusses DHEA. He says "blocks cancer and cardiovascular disease and it retards aging." Anyone here have any experience with it? I had never heard of it before. Thanks, Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>DHEA
Dear Bob, My MOM was really sick, I diagnosed her with a pneumonia and pleuritis (chronic) She suffered this disease for about 3 years (The pleuritis) and she never complained, but the complication with pneumonia produced very alarming symptoms. I made an X-Ray picture of the lungs showing the problem. Gave her antibiotics, and non steroids anti-inflammatory medicine. She improved say 70% but the symptoms remained. I gave her Cell Food (The complete kit) the concentrated, the multivitamins the silica, and the DHEA formulas. In two days the pain gone, she started to breath really well and... her gray hair was transforming in black hair, it started to grow again (she had allopecia), the skin at hands was without wrinkles, same the face. she started to move and walk and to EAT (The last 2 years she ate really poor) she felt energetic and start to walk around the corner (right now she walks 3 miles daily) Her age 85 years old. I repeated the X Rays; No signs of the lung problem, and the bad breath (You cannot talk with her because she had a very strong halitosis) disappeared. The miracle was made with all of this, but the results were accelerated or consolidated with the use of Cell Food. Just my report. Alex Torres M.D. P.S. I have a non-profit clinic in Tijuana and Mexicali for the treatment of Cancer and AIDS, and we get some fiduciary help selling Cell Food and other anti-cancer natural compounds. If interested please follow all the links and go to: http://www.healthmall.com/www/Shop/Index.cfm?s=169&FuseAction=TermsOfService Is in Spanish, but look for the "English" word for a more deep explanation. other link: if this do not work) http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Falls/7388/cinco/descripcion_en_detalle. htm#2 -Original Message- From: Bob Squires [mailto:rj...@dialnet.net] Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 12:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>DHEA Marshal; I received some info quite some time ago and if I remember right it was some kind of silver protein with some additives in it ,not pure CS. Bob Marshall Dudley wrote: > I just received "The Micro Silver Bullet", and in it Dr. Paul Farber discusses DHEA. > He says "blocks cancer and cardiovascular disease and it retards aging." > > Anyone here have any experience with it? I had never heard of it before. > > Thanks, > > Marshall > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS><hydrogen peroxide and CS production experiment [aquicky]
If you are in need of oxygen, please go to: http://www.healthmall.com/www/Shop/Index.cfm?s=169&FuseAction=TermsOfService at the end of the page there is a link to English language. Alex -Original Message- From: Kathryn Neff [mailto:n...@ricc.net] Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 7:42 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>> In a message dated 4*8*00 3:00:04 PM, silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com writes: > > << Subject: CS>hydrogen peroxide and CS production experiment [a quicky] > > > > > >> ## An odd little experiment. >> > > Hello all, > I did a little experiment with hydrogen peroxide too recently...of a > completely different nature. > I breathed it up my nose. > I had been reading about it and became convinced that the 3% kind would > not be too strong to try this with. > What happened was that it totally cleared my nose out upon the first try. > I ran into my daughters room and said "I can hear better!" (I have tinnitus > and it is effecting my hearing). > W E L L ...I should have left well enough alone. I did it again two more > times!!! My nose wouldn't stop running and bleeding too. And I got sick too, > for 2 days. Does anyone have a guess about this? Did I open up some crap in > my nasal cavity and it perhaps was loosened by the hydrogen peroxide? > H...I keep wondering about this. > Comments appreciated! > Love, Kathy > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
RE: Cs>Off Topic/Head
Dear Kim, Go with your doctor, pediatrician, or a neurologist to take a measure of the head. The head big can be liquid (encephalic) inside the head that is pushing the sutures and bones of the skull producing a hydrocephalus (sp?) Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: KIM BROWN [mailto:dreamcoun...@sprint.ca] Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 7:24 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Cs>Off Topic/Head Hi guys, This is certainly off topic, sorry. I don't know who else to ask. Even though it seems silly, please no jokes. What would cause a child's head to be large? This boy was a premature birth and has just turned 3. His head is almost the size of an adults. Now, he is a big stocky boy but the first thing people notice is his head size. He doesn't seem to have any other physical ailments, should this be a concern? Has anyone ever seen this before? Thanks, Kim -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Off Topic - Can anyone help??
Dear Bill, I think is a fancy name, to cover the real thing... I am pretty sure this thing do not contains oxygen or at least we cannot find traces analyzing this at the University... but it is working, we made a comparative study with 20 patients, using Peroxide and ozone against the "polyatomic oxygen" and the results were really positive with the P. O2. No results or poor results or inconsistent results (if any) with the peroxide or ozone. or really slwly. The patients (similar conditions, same kind of cancer, the response of improvement was from day 1 to day 2 really notorious. Alex -Original Message- From: Bill Schramm [mailto:wschr...@ix.netcom.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 12:16 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Off Topic - Can anyone help?? Hello Dr. Torres -- is polyatomic oxygen a fancy name for ozone or "super-oxygen"? or is it something else. thanks. -Original Message----- From: Alex C Torres To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 2:45 AM Subject: RE: CS>Off Topic - Can anyone help?? >Dear Dana, >Where is located this girl? Maybe the D.K. machine or the Vibroclast can >help her... just a tough... or the Polyatomic Oxygen? To us the P. Atomic >Oxygen is giving really amazing results! >Alex Torres M.D. > >-Original Message- >From: den...@perle.com [mailto:den...@perle.com] >Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 3:10 PM >To: silverl...@eskimo.com >Subject: CS>Off Topic - Can anyone help?? > > > >Hello CS listers- > >This is completely off topic and I apologize for that but I am devastated >at the news I received today. I am asking for any help you wonderful people >might have because I do not know where else to turn. > >A very dear friend of mine has a 7 year old daughter who has been diagnosed >with an inoperable brain glioma. Up until today, she has been in a research >program for a new type of chemotherapy that has worked to keep the cancer >isolated and under control. Today, they were told that she must go off of >the program because there is a high risk of Leukemia associated with the >dosage of chemo she has been receiving. The hospital and doctors will not >take responsibility for this & have essentially told them that there is >nothing else they will do for her. > >Unfortunately, I am not a doctor and do not know any other details >regarding the type of chemo she was receiving. I only know that thus far >it has helped keep her here with us and now her parents fear the worst. > >Please, if anyone has any info at all, could you share it with me. If you >would prefer, you can email me directly at den...@perle.com. > >Thank you all so much...please say a prayer for the Henry family...they >really need it. > >Dana > > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour >
RE: CS>Off Topic - Can anyone help??
Dear Dana, Where is located this girl? Maybe the D.K. machine or the Vibroclast can help her... just a tough... or the Polyatomic Oxygen? To us the P. Atomic Oxygen is giving really amazing results! Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: den...@perle.com [mailto:den...@perle.com] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 1999 3:10 PM To: silverl...@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Off Topic - Can anyone help?? Hello CS listers- This is completely off topic and I apologize for that but I am devastated at the news I received today. I am asking for any help you wonderful people might have because I do not know where else to turn. A very dear friend of mine has a 7 year old daughter who has been diagnosed with an inoperable brain glioma. Up until today, she has been in a research program for a new type of chemotherapy that has worked to keep the cancer isolated and under control. Today, they were told that she must go off of the program because there is a high risk of Leukemia associated with the dosage of chemo she has been receiving. The hospital and doctors will not take responsibility for this & have essentially told them that there is nothing else they will do for her. Unfortunately, I am not a doctor and do not know any other details regarding the type of chemo she was receiving. I only know that thus far it has helped keep her here with us and now her parents fear the worst. Please, if anyone has any info at all, could you share it with me. If you would prefer, you can email me directly at den...@perle.com. Thank you all so much...please say a prayer for the Henry family...they really need it. Dana -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Off Topic - Can anyone help??
Dear Dana, Where are u located. I can help with to kind of apparatus and one miraculous compound that is giving VERY GOOD results! They must come to Tijuana or Mexicali, Mexico for the treatment. 95% of our patients are cured of several kinds of cancer! I cannot tell you more this way, but as the legal talking says... no promise of curing, no warranty of any kind, but what more they can lost.? Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: den...@perle.com To: silverl...@eskimo.com Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 9:24 AM Subject: CS>Off Topic - Can anyone help?? > >Hello CS listers- > >This is completely off topic and I apologize for that but I am devastated >at the news I received today. I am asking for any help you wonderful people >might have because I do not know where else to turn. > >A very dear friend of mine has a 7 year old daughter who has been diagnosed >with an inoperable brain glioma. Up until today, she has been in a research >program for a new type of chemotherapy that has worked to keep the cancer >isolated and under control. Today, they were told that she must go off of >the program because there is a high risk of Leukemia associated with the >dosage of chemo she has been receiving. The hospital and doctors will not >take responsibility for this & have essentially told them that there is >nothing else they will do for her. > >Unfortunately, I am not a doctor and do not know any other details >regarding the type of chemo she was receiving. I only know that thus far >it has helped keep her here with us and now her parents fear the worst. > >Please, if anyone has any info at all, could you share it with me. If you >would prefer, you can email me directly at den...@perle.com. > >Thank you all so much...please say a prayer for the Henry family...they >really need it. > >Dana > > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Lew/MSM
Dear Lew, All that words are yours but extracted from some books or teachers, please let us know where from are those ideas. Books or references for a deeply study. Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: Lew Fong How To: b...@lcia.com Cc: silver-List@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 12:21 PM Subject: Re: CS>Lew/MSM > >- Original Message - >From: RON BRENNEN >To: >Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 1999 8:25 AM >Subject: Re: CS>Lew/MSM > > >> kato...@aol.com wrote: >> > >> > Dear Lew, >> > You wrote: >> > >> > Dear Katarina, >> > >> > You wrote: >> > >> > < my Oriental Medicine Doctor warns that there are bacteria >and >> > other nasty things which flourish >> > when fed on MSM and that most of his clients react badly to >> > it that Colloidal Silver is an extremely >> > powerful anti-biotic/viral / fungal,but it can kill brain cells and >> > cause scarring in the brain> >> > >> > I appreciate your MD's warnings. These clinical >> > findings are serious and have far reaching >> > consequences. Can your Holistic MD substantiate the warnings ? I >am >> > positive his postings will be of >> > great value to healthcare consumers and Nature's assistants like me. >> > >> > With regards >> > >> > Lew >> > [ Malaysia ] >> > >> > I wish his warnings were based on trials and he could substantiate >them - or >> > actually, perhaps I am glad that they are not, because I would prefer it >if >> > CS and MSM had no possible side effects since they are such helpful >tools for >> > good health. His warnings come only from what he has seen in his >practice, >> > and therefore, like most of the evidence of how well CS works in humans, >are >> > basically anectodotal. >> > I tend to think that he is a brilliant doctor in his own field - but an >> > alarmist and possibly prejudiced against tools which he doesn't use. >> > So it worries me when he says these things - but I have no idea if they >are >> > true or not. For myself, I have decided that when I have sinus >infections it >> > is worth the risk of going against his warnings and using CS for them. >But >> > unfortunately, several weeks after using a lot of CS for my sinus >infection I >> > have developed a terrible spaciness and feeling of not quite being in my >body >> > and problems with my eyes, which could be the damage that he warned me >about >> > -- I don't think so - but everyone has a different theory of what it is >and >> > no-one knows for sure. >> > So I wish there were enough studies to prove one way or the other the >safety >> > of CS or MSM -- but since the big money guys want anything they can't >make >> > big money off suppressed, I guess it will be a while before such studies >get >> > funded -- probably when antibiotics clearly no longer work at all. >> > Hope that helps, not confuses. >> > Take care, >> > Katarina >> > PS. I think one of the questions which is unresolved is whether CS makes >it >> > through the blood/brain barrier into the brain -- does anyone have any >> > opinions on this? >> >> For what its worth, Edgar Cayce said: The proper use of Gold and >> and silver has the potential to double your life span. >> Ron > > >* > >Dear Ron, > > You wrote: > >< Edgar Cayce said: The proper use of Gold and Silver has the potential to >double your life span.> > > He is absolutely >right ! > > I like this leading starement. In Cellular Physio-biochemistry, >the total health of a body system is a >reflection of the functional integrity of a cell. Malfunction of an organ or >illness is due to dysfunctional cells.The malfunctioning of a cell is >usually due to deficiency of a tissue salt >or salts of which there are twelve [ The 12 cell salts of Dr,Wilheim >Schuessler MD.]Professor Virchow, a prominent authority on cellular >diseases and cell cancer, defines disease as " a lack of some constituent >part of the blood at the part affected."A >chemico-physiological restoration of cellular health requires an >infinitesimal supply of " cell-salts " which are absorbed minerals and >trace mineral concomitants like Gold and Silver . These cell salts in their > > >proportinal combinations act synergistically with other organic body >chemcals, activate structures that make >the person and form the personality,are the " living forces " that repair >" hurts " and ignite the vitality of the body which is esoterically called >the Vital Force, Chi or Prana. Therefore, tissue salts and trace minerals >are >involved in the genesis of life itself ! > > The " hurts" are due to stress >which may be: > >Physical >Chemic
Re: CS>Hannah Tds Meter
Please go to: www.hannainst.com/products/tdspromo.htm Regards, Alex -Original Message- From: Janine To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 10:22 AM Subject: Re: CS>Hannah Tds Meter >Alex, what is their URL? for Hanna TDS meter? thanks > >Janine > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Hello
Do you want to make some research? O.K. buy a pair of petri dishes., buy a culture medium (I suggest agar-blood) follow the instructions on the preparation of the culture medium, sterilize your petri dish with the medium (you can do it putting your P.D. in a pressure coocker, sterilize for say 10 minutes, let it cold, and with a culture tool make some movements on the culture surface. Wait the growing of the bacteria. One petri dish will have the infected sample, example: saliva and the other saliva plus C.S.. You report the results please.. Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Date: Thursday, September 02, 1999 8:15 AM Subject: RE: CS>Hello >One list member has reported observing paramecium being killed by CS. > Perhaps he will see this and respond. His technique ruled out their being >killed by the light and heat of the microscope. >James Osbourne, Holmes > >a...@trail.com > >-Original Message- >From: Jason Rumohr [SMTP:mtnh...@oz.net] >Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 11:41 PM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: CS>Hello > > << File: ATT4.html >> Hi, > >I am new to this list. Friends of mine have used colloidal silver for a >boost to avoid colds. I recently heard about the use of it for purifying >water. Specifically, I am interested in purifying water in wilderness areas >that might contain giardia, cryptosporidium and other things. Any info or >experience with this? Thanks. > >-Jason R. > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>Water for CS Research, please help!
Here is an use of the TDS...quality of the "distilled" water Alex Torres -Original Message- From: James Osbourne, Holmes To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Date: Thursday, September 02, 1999 8:56 AM Subject: RE: CS>Water for CS Research, please help! >Hi Vickie, > >The minute changes in conductivity caused by remaining dissolved solids in >various distilled waters has a dramatic effect on yield with HVAC >processes, by my direct observation. From reading others experience with >LVDC, it is apparently the same. Since particle size is probably affected >by current, it probably changes that also, but not as dramatically as >yield, suspect. I think yield plotted against conductivity is probably a >curve which starts out relatively flat, and turns up steeply as resistance >decreases and current increases. When I get a amp meter on my rig, I will >log that for sol concentration Vs current. The cost of particle size >measurement is a continuing barrier for me. > >Some say that a starting PPM---sorry, I do not have that in mS---of about >0.8 is ideal in the nominal 10KV AC range. > >James Osbourne, Holmes > >a...@trail.com > >-Original Message- >From: Victoria Welch [SMTP:vi...@oz.net] >Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 1999 7:10 PM >To: Silver-List >Subject: CS>Water for CS Research, please help! > >Hi everyone and thanks in advance! > >I'm trying to understand why there seems to be a variation in startup >currents when using Distilled Water (DW). > >The stuff I am using is from a company called Cullyspring Water >Company. Notes from the label are as follows: > >Distilled Water > >Member International Bottled Water Association. > >Purified to USP standards by seeam distillation, reverse osmosis, >deionization, sub micron absolute filtration and ozonation. > >If y'all could look at what you are using and let me know what it is and >if it might say anything similar to the above. > >I would be especially greatful for information from folks who can and do >check initial starting current flow and perhaps let me know what your >starting current is also if they are using LVDC/LVAC/whatever. > >I've seen some data flow by (Ole Bob here) and there seems to be a vast >difference in current flow from what I am getting and I am wondering why >and what the differences might be. > >If you wish to email me directly instead of the list, that would be OK >and would probably take the load off the list :-). > >I'll correlate and summarize to the list if there is interest. > >Thanks and take care, Vikki. >-- >Victoria Welch, WV9K, DoD#-13, Net/Sys/WebAdmin SeaStar.org, >vikki.oz.net >"Walking on water and developing software to specification are >easy as long as both are frozen" - Edward V. Berard. >Do not unto others, that which you would not have others do unto you. > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS>BIG CS Generator
Dear Jim, I had use a strong magnet to move the water... did you know that magnets moves water? Try this: Put a recipient with water at the freezer (better two) One with a strong magnet (speaker magnet) at the bottom and one without. When it is frozen, the one with the magnet shows some circles, that mean the water was moving. With this in mind I use some magnets when i make CS. Please try it and report please. Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: Jim To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, September 02, 1999 11:07 AM Subject: CS>BIG CS Generator >If you want to make lots of cs at one time, want control over the >process, don't want to baby-sit the generator, maybe this is for you. > >There is more than one way to skin a cat, and the example of the setup >below can certainly be changed to make a system you might like better. > >I like to give cs away, and making cs with my 10,000 volt setup was >too time consuming when many people wanted cs in the same week! So I >wanted to make a setup that would do a good job in more of a hurry. > >The example below runs off household current of 120 vac. For those of >you who would like to run off battery, you can bypass the ac circuitry >in the supply and use a couple car batteries instead. For those in >the 220volt 50hz parts of the world, a simple transformer in front of >the power supply would suffice. Etc., etc.. > >This is not a refined system which has been custom engineered for cs, >it is a slap-together setup from normally found stuff, so anyone can >do it anywhere. And it works very, very well! >_ > >POWER SUPPLY: voltage and current limiting, 0-35 volts dc, 0-1 or 2 >amps continuous (not stated in documentation), 5 amp max. Made in >Taiwan without a label so anyone can private label it. Taiwan part >number: Model: VAP-5A30V2. This model is sold by CALRAD number >45-774. It has a volt meter, ammeter, and pots to adjust limits to >each. List about $230US, can get for $50 less with shopping. Yes, it >is a bit big, but workable. Voltage meter and adj. is just fine, the >amp adj. and meter need some help unless you use enough silver to use >about a whole amp of power. I'm sure there are cheaper ways out >there, I just used this one as I was readily available with current >limiting built in. [An alternative supply with current limiting on >board would be a small dc motor drive at a used electric place. Even >some of the newer ones are pretty cheap. A person would only have to >use enough electrode surface area to work within the range of the >drive.] > >ELECTRODES: This was simply a starting point, your setup may vary. I >used 12 pieces of 1mm thick silver sheet 2 in. x 6 in. submerged 5" in >the water. Use sheet at least this thick, because you cannot afford >to have a thinner sheet bending on you when you clean them. >Electrodes must be pretty straight and flat. I arranged the >electrodes like an expanded stack with 1.5" spacing with alternating >charges just like a battery. Spacing is not very critical as I have >the ability to current limit, however, the larger the spacing, the >less small deviations in alignment and flatness of electrodes will >matter. Also, the larger the spacing, the longer it takes to start >up, as the voltage is limited to 35vdc with this particular power >supply. Each electrode must be spaced the same from each other >electrode. File and polish all sharp edges, or you will get a lot of >fallout in the cs. > >You can use different configurations, larger pieces (which I will next >time I order), more or fewer electrodes, different spacing, different >current limit point. Even just two big electrodes. > >ELECTRODE BURN OFF: I have found that turning the setup on to "burn >in" the electrodes is of great help in reducing the high spots on the >electrodes. Just set it up, crank up the amps, and let it run all >day. The cs will have a tremendous amount of fallout, but after that >the electrodes will make a cs will little fallout. > >ELECTRODE SOURCE: I bought mine form Swest. You can find them at >swestinc.com . If you order from them, make sure you tell them you >want accurate cuts. My order came back with pieces that were not cut >very close. I complained, and the manager called me up to apologize >and promise better service next time. They will make any size you >want. > >BATCH TANK: I used a 10 gallon aquarium, filled half full. > >STIRRING: Stir, or you WILL have unhappy results. Highly conductive >cs will pile up between some electrodes, and the current will not be >the same everywhere. You will make very large particle cs without >stirring. I use a regular fish tank filter pump without the filter. >I found some had an unprotected metal rotor, and some had plastic or >teflon covered pump rotor. Obviously I did not want the exposed >metal. > >POLARITY REVERSAL: I went down to the local used industrial >electronics store and bought an old percentage timer for $5U
Re: CS>Brooks Bradley/CS experiments
Dear Kass, How are you? Answer me! Still smiling! ;-)) -Original Message- From: T To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, September 02, 1999 12:03 AM Subject: Re: CS>Brooks Bradley/CS experiments >Hi Katarina, > I've suffered from yeast problems since extremely aggressive antibiotic >treatment. After 6 1/2 years of trying everything, including diet, WaterOz >Ionic silver has made the largest impact on the problem. I'm not working >for the company, just someone who found out about it on the CS list, and >tried it. My yeast problem is not over, but under some assimilance of >control, for the first time in 6 yrs. Try it, and in a few weeks, let us >all know what's going on. I'm interested in what others have to say. The >sharing of information is the best thing we all have going for us. > Keep smiling, >Kass >-Original Message- >From: kato...@aol.com >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 11:27 PM >Subject: CS>Brooks Bradley/CS experiments > > >>Hi Brooks, >>Thanks so much for your post on the CS experiments and humans. Also the >info >>about water is fascinating and very important. >>As a candida sufferer (ugh) who is cionsidering using CS to treat it, I'm >>obviously very interested in issues of how cs affects friendly flora. I >have >>found it very difficult to replace friendly flora after the antibiotics >that >>gave me - and the antifungals, mostly natural, which I have used to treat >it. >>Despite long term consumption of hight quality acidophilus, I still test as >>having zero acidophilus in my stool. I'm trying a new enteric coated >>acidophilus now and we'll see if it works - but you can see why I am >>interested in the info on cs and friendly flora. >> >>It seemed that in your study on dogs the friendly flora was reduced at a >>relatively lower doseage of cs than in the human studies. Have you done any >>studies that showed the highest dose's of cs that one could take without >>affecting the friendly flora? >> >>Thanks so much for all your wonderful information. >>Take care, >>Katarina >> >> >>-- >>The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. >> >>To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >>silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >>with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. >> >>To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >> >>List maintainer: Mike Devour >> >> >
RE: CS>Hannah Tds Meter
Dear P Yanko, Just received in two days my two TDS form Hanna... they really work. I ordered via email. Go to the email option. write your info and credit card info, and send it. In a few minutes you will have the confirmation of your order... Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: P Yanko [mailto:eagl...@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 1999 4:28 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Hannah Tds Meter Having looked at the web site, I attempted to order one of these, Cant complain about the service their is none !!! Have e-mailed Hannah usa, australia, canada. Absolutley NO Replies. Guess someone else got them on a good day. P Yanko -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>food poisoning
Dear Kass, Did u receive my last emails? Alex -Original Message- From: T [mailto:ka...@harborside.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 12:14 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>food poisioning I would think that Milk Thistle 80% would also help protect the liver. Kass -Original Message- From: ejohns9...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 6:07 AM Subject: Re: CS>food poisioning >In a message dated 8/23/99 12:50:42 PM Central Daylight Time, >mdud...@execonn.com writes: > ><< Found that food poisoning is normally eliminated within minutes of taking >CS if > taken at the first sign of trouble. If you let it reach the intestines first > though you will have several hours of misery. > > Marshall >> > >Wouldn't it also help to use mega doses of Sonnes liquid bentonite with the >CS?? >( or what ever kind you prefer) >Edith > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Re: cow: antibody factory
Taylor, Yes, please. Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: skyl...@aol.com [mailto:skyl...@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 1999 8:05 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Re: cow: antibody factory Alex, Have you heard of Impro? A company in Iowa has been producing antibodies in whey for years. The name of the company is the name of the product. I'll try to remember more if you are interested... Best wishes, Taylor << Right now trying to become a cowboy for the evaluation of the application of total blood at the udder of the cow for the production of antibodies... in colostrums. Alex Torres M.D. >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Another new member
Dear Steve, I found last week and ordered Hulda Clark's books at amazon.com They have ALL. Can u make me a favor? Please post the web link to the inexpensive $14.90 Hanna portable pocket TDS meter.. it was posted at the rife-List but I lost the link and if u go to that place, u cannot find that tester. I want to compare the TDS with a spectroscopy machine we have at the University to make a relation between the TDS and the spectroscope, because I think is more easy and portable that tester. Keep the good work going! Nice report. Alex Torres M.D. --Original Message- From: Steve Ratzlaff [mailto:sratz...@flash.net] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 1999 3:55 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Another new member Hello, I've been lurking, reading the various posts past couple weeks, as a new list member. I came from the Rife list, am new to that too. I've been making CS for over a year, but had no other info on it other than by using salt, from Thomas Miller's website. I had only recently found out about making CS with no salt, just before also hearing about the Rife and silver mailing lists. I have certainly enjoyed having my horizons vastly expanded, through contact with both lists. Is there a silver list Archive somewhere? I found the Rife archives but not the silver list. As I get my silver list in the Digest form, can some computer expert on the list tell me how to safely expunge the Happy 99 virus message (which I of course did not open) from my Digest without "Deleting" the entire Digest, as I'd like to save all the Digests. I read a post about using CS preventing plaque forming on your teeth. Is this a bonafide use of CS, or something that happened to occur to someone? I have found that taking a swig of CS just before I go to the dentist for my 6-month's teeth cleaning, and then taking another swig immediately after leaving the office really works for me. I used to always get a mild flu within 2 days of each teeth cleaning--I imagine from swallowing some of the nasty stuff that comes off your teeth during the cleaning. The flu symptoms would only last for 3 or 4 days, but I would always get it. Since using the CS, I have not had a single reoccurrence of the flu symptoms. Thanks to Marsha for her generous arrangement of supplying silver wire to new users. You might be interested in my source of .999 fine silver. I buy my silver as "Bezel, fine silver, .999 fine" from a local gem and jewelry-making supply store (Mountain View, CA). This comes in a strip form, in various widths. I buy the 3/32" wide. It is very inexpensive. A 36" length of 3/32" wide bezel cost me $9.72 in June 1999. As you only use two strips about 6" long, you can see the cost is almost minimal, and of course the strips last a very long time for CS usage. Even if you use a piece of Scothbrite pad to clean the electrodes after each use (which I do), I have yet to make any visible change in the strips I've been using. I haven't seen a posting about the inexpensive $14.90 Hanna portable pocket TDS meter, listed as a "promotional" item on their website. I bought one and it appears to do a decent job for CS measuring. It may not be absolutely accurate for true dissolved silver ppm, but it will certainly give you a relative indication of the CS you're making. It's interesting to test various brands of distilled water with it. At least one brand reads 2ppm for the "pure" water alone. Right after receiving my TDS meter I did a number of runs using my several brands of DW and different run times. (I should add I'm finally a convert to the "no-salt" CS generation process.) For the first time since switching from using salt, I finally got various shades of yellow. Before that I had thought obtaining a yellow CS was some type of mystical process unobtainable by ordinary mortals. Several batches initally were clear, but 12-16 hours later had turned yellow. I wonder what that means? One batch, using a new brand I found in a local drugstore (Crystal DW from Santa Cruz, CA) initially was clear, but next day had turned a weird metallic blue, with a light layer of dark silver settled out on the jar's bottom. A day later the solution had turned a menacing black color, with more silver on the bottom. It would seem something was wrong with that brand of DW, or my particular jug of it. I was fascinated by the recent posts of some saying they're drinking the CS undiluted from the generating process. My batches all are 10-20ppm, as read on the Hanna TDS meter, and it's impossible for me to drink that undiluted. The mouth taste is too metallic for me to stand, and if I swallow it, my stomach actually churns and threatens to revolt. I take a teaspoon of CS to a couple ounces of water; then I have no problems. I have heard that swishing it in the mouth for 5 min. or more, to sublingually ingest the silver, is the better method, rather than just immediately swallowing the CS solution. Am always open to suggestions for improving my generation and usage o
CS>FW: CS>Heartburn
-Original Message- From: Alex C. Torres [mailto:compu_...@prodigy.net] Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 2:45 PM To: M. G. Devour Subject: RE: CS>Heartburn Dear Mike, Sorry for not subscribe at this list before. I have more than one year at the Rife-list and at that list (I think) all the member knows me. I have almost one year working with CS and had made a high voltage (30,000 volts) low amperage CS machine that lead me (when I am in need of that) 2 gallons each 10 minutes. The purity is supreme and I had analyzed that produced C.S. by spectroscopy... I have samples for comparison at 10, 15 20, 30 and 50 ppm. My source for silver is Taxco Mexico that produce the 100% pure silver... this silver is real pure without traces of other elements. I have at the University access to Electronic microscope, dark field and fluorescent microscopes... Right know I am applying C.S. plus the D.K. machine for treatment of AIDS and Cancer with very good results. I am evaluating IP6 (isositol phosphate 6) Barley-Green, and Essiac from Resperin for purity and uniformity. Liquid oxygen will be the next evaluation, and 714X (from Dr. Gaston Nassens My background: XE2ATC (Ham radio operator) Computer engineer Acupuncturist (Master degree) Surgeon Radiology Nutritionist General Practice Medicine Mechanic on Gasoline engines and automatic transmission Swimming pool builder Right now trying to become a cowboy for the evaluation of the application of total blood at the udder of the cow for the production of antibodies... in colostrums. Alex Torres M.D. P.S. No problem, I am too against the "old" and orthodox (No brain) doctors that only accepts the Merck Manual as bible. -Original Message- From: M. G. Devour [mailto:mdev...@mail.id.net] Sent: Saturday, August 21, 1999 4:16 AM To: Alex C. Torres Subject: RE: CS>Heartburn Alex, Thank you for your input into the silver list. Having a conventionally trained physician be part of our community is, in *my* opinion at least, a good thing. Sometimes the simplest things can lead to the most bizarre misunderstandings when untrained people are casting about, trying to understand the universe. Having someone with appropriate training to tell us how things are believed to work can help keep us on course. I do just want to warn you, if indeed you don't already know it, there is a component of anti-doctor prejudice among many people on the list. They have rejected mainstream medicine and doctors, often for very good reasons of personal experience of medical mismanagement, arrogance, or ignorance. I believe that if you continue to come across in as non-threatening way as possible, as one who is sincerely interested in learning about CS and respectful of these people's experiences, you may be able to avoid or de-fuse the more excitable element. The thing I've learned about the folks in this group is that they don't blindly accept the conventional view of anything. So, to present the conventional view, one has to *call* it that, and accept that in many of these folk's minds it is only one of *many* possible explanations of reality. This is *not* a comfortable thing for those of us who have some scientific background! Your comments and your very presence on the silver-list implies that you are interested in exploring these unproven but interesting alternatives that won't go away. Welcome to the fray. The fact that the stuff seems to *work* for so many people makes it interesting to me. That's why I hang around and help make the silver-list run. Be well, Mike Devour silver-list owner > Dear List, > Sorry for the intromission but almost all the problems with stomach > due to increase of acid that attacks the mucous and produce the > inflammation of the linen of the stomach are due to a bacteria: > Helicobacter Pylori. Read some making a search at AltaVista under H. > pylori or Dr. Marshall... Alex Torres M.D. P.S.The best way to > destroy the h. pylori is bismuth and some antibacterial agent : > colloidal silver is good but there are another antibacterials.. > > -Original Message- > From: RON BRENNEN [mailto:b...@lcia.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 5:36 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Heartburn > > > Ivan Anderson wrote: > > > > Dear Vassili, > > > > CS will only be of benefit if the heartburn is caused by stomach > > ulcers or an infection of the stomach lining. If this is the > > case, then taking a tablespoon (perhaps mixed with MSM) every > > couple of hours or so, may be of benefit. > > > > Other causes have been listed as, smoking, fatty foods, obesity, > > alcohol etc. but a recent study has found that: > > > > "Exactly what causes heartburn and acid reflux isn't clear, > > either. Previous studies have indicated a link between acid >
RE: CS>Heartburn - which antibacterial agent?
Dear Alia, I use with my patients metronidazol suspension 250 mg plus pepto bismol 2 tablespoons each one three times a day after meals. Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: alial...@aol.com [mailto:alial...@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 7:26 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Heartburn - which antibacterial agent? Which is the best antibacterial for H. pylori? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS and spouting
Dear Robert, So sad that USA is really slow to use or apply the "OLD" for Mexico and "New" for USA. Here in Mexico for more that 30 years we have a filter made basically from silver granules (Activated silver) that destroys in the water that passes trough : Bacteria, fungus, virus, and parasites. I have 3 of them and I ran tests periodically on the water they produce: ZERO contamination, really pure. The use of lettuce (Jack in the Box, Mac Donald's, etc) that never is disinfected is that really amaze me! The FDA and Health departments check only for tuberculosis (At least in California) and some gastrointestinal infections (Fever reaction against salmonellas) but the same person that charge for your order at the drive thru windows is the same person that give u the food... really amazing, because in Mexico the "Taquerias" use at least 2 persons to handle one the money and one the food...and mostly "Taquerias" use colloidal silver to disinfect the vegetables. I cannot find that filter in USA in 20 years of living here. That filter is really cheap, no more that 100.00 dollars and effectiveness is unlimited. Alex Torres M.D. -Original Message- From: Robert Ratliff [mailto:bobratl...@iname.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 7:15 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS and spouting With the world shouting eat raw someone has to be on the other side of every issue. I'm afraid if I breath I will die. Probably of some unsterilized thing entering my person. Rinse them in silver-water or a hydrogen peroxide solution. Best Regards, Robert Ratliff SE Tenn. bobratl...@iname.com -Original Message- From: MS SHELLEY V CORBIN [mailto:cmbh...@prodigy.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 2:53 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS and spouting will rinsing spouting seeds with this control ecoli and samonella? "Consumers need to understand that, at this time, the best way to control this risk is not to eat raw sprouts, she says. Raw sprouts have been associated with salmonellosis and e-coli infections, the FDA says. Children, the elderly and people with weak immune systems are at greater risk for developing serious illness due to food borne diseases. "If you do opt for sprouts, the FDA advises you to: Cook sprouts to reduce risk of illness. Check sandwiches and salads purchased at restaurants, and request that sprouts be omitted. Be careful of homegrown sprouts. Sprout seeds may be contaminated and bacteria present in or on seeds can grow even under clean conditions." "I have also read that because of the delicacy of sprouts, they can't be effectively washed to clean bacteria off them. Since I recently purchased hundreds of alfalfa and broccoli seeds for sprouting for Y2K, I'm not sure what to do myself. Cooking destroys the enzymes and some nutrients. What are your thoughts on this? Bonnie" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Heartburn
Dear List, Sorry for the intromission but almost all the problems with stomach due to increase of acid that attacks the mucous and produce the inflammation of the linen of the stomach are due to a bacteria: Helicobacter Pylori. Read some making a search at AltaVista under H. pylori or Dr. Marshall... Alex Torres M.D. P.S.The best way to destroy the h. pylori is bismuth and some antibacterial agent : colloidal silver is good but there are another antibacterials.. -Original Message- From: RON BRENNEN [mailto:b...@lcia.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 1999 5:36 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Heartburn Ivan Anderson wrote: > > Dear Vassili, > > CS will only be of benefit if the heartburn is caused by stomach > ulcers or an infection of the stomach lining. If this is the > case, then taking a tablespoon (perhaps mixed with MSM) every > couple of hours or so, may be of benefit. > > Other causes have been listed as, smoking, fatty foods, obesity, > alcohol etc. but a recent study has found that: > > "Exactly what causes heartburn and acid reflux isn't clear, > either. Previous studies have indicated a link between acid > reflux and obesity, smoking and alcohol, but this study found no > such correlation. Nor did the Swedish researchers find a > definitive link to spicy foods. > > Some doctors recommend avoiding certain foods to relieve mild > heartburn and acid reflux, including onions, tomatoes, coffee, > chocolate and carbonated beverages. They also recommend against > lying down after a full meal." > > Of course if the problem is intense then seeing a medical > practitioner would be advisable. > > By the way, do look into Brooks advice, keeping the body well > hydrated has the habit of resolving all sorts of problems. > > Hope this is of help > > Ivan Heartburn is usually caused by insufficient digestive juices. Heartburn is actually fermentation. One or two HCL capsuls most times stops the heartburn. Regards, Ron > --- > > - Original Message - > From: Vassili Kalashnikov > > > Dear Ivan, would you tell anything about how to use CS against > heartburn? > > With respect, > > Vassili > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour
