Re: CS>SILVER
There's no stamping on .999 fine 14 gauge silver wire. You buy it from a reputable metal fabricator like Myron Taback in NYC at 1-800-223-7550. Minimum order is 2 oz. for $25 plus shipping or send me a $5 bill and I'll mail you two 5 3/8" lengths for a generator. My e-mail is D G wrote: > it says fine silver (not sterling) but is not stamped .999. so... is > it safe to make cs with? or should i trade it in for soomething stamped > .999? > > Dennis > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>SILVER
.999 fine silver is too soft for coinage. It probably has nickel in it which would be a toxic addition to CS. D G wrote: > yup. it says 1 oz. fine silver one dollar. > retails for about nine. > > Dennis > > > > Subject: Re: CS>SILVER > Resent-Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 15:42:26 -0800 > Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 17:45:19 -0600 > From: "Nutritional Intelligence Cooperative of North America" > > Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com > To: > > what kind of coin? is it a US coin? > > jd > > ps. if anyone wants to make $20, go to this site: > https://preview.x.com/new_account.asp?referrer=jdkl...@netzero.net > you can get referral fees too? > > -Original Message- > From: D G > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Thursday, December 30, 1999 5:35 PM > Subject: CS>SILVER > > i just got a coin that says one ounce fine > silver on it, but isn't stamped .999 fine . > is it good enuff for cs? > > Dennis > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > __ > NetZero - Defenders of the Free World > Get your FREE Internet Access and Email at > http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Re: CS>Flu
You are correct. He is an electrical engineer and his prices are very modest. An extremely honest dealer. dikm...@aol.com wrote: > Go to: > > http://www.bioelectrifier.com/ > > Thomas Miller is a great guy to deal with for units. He build both the > variable power Beck and the magnetic pulser. > > Dick > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Flu
Re: the viability of your batteries: to be sure always check your solution with a laser pointer for the Tyndall effect. Marsha Hallett wrote: Well, guys, in spite of daily doses of CS, I have the nastiest flu. I also have that "cough". I have upped my dosage and am going to bed. This has been gong on since Sunday. Just shoot me. Carol Dar Carole, I did the same thing. Turned out the batteries on my CS gadget were nearly dead...Might want to check yours! Love,Marsha
Re: CS>Flu
Try an Olive Leaf Extract supplement from Ameriden. Carol Kehoe wrote: Well, guys, in spite of daily doses of CS, I have the nastiest flu. I also have that "cough". I have upped my dosage and am going to bed. This has been gong on since Sunday. Just shoot me. Carol
Re: CS>LASER & CS
If no red line visible in a darkened room, I wouldn't think you had CS in the container. Can you check your voltage with a meter? How long did it take to get a yellow solution? Was your water heated? If all else fails, try a drop of honey on the tip of a toothpick. Trem Williams wrote: > Hi Bret, > > Sometimes it's easier to see the beam if you hold it behind the vessel and > direct the light toward you and down a bit, making sure it doesn't shine in > your eyes. That way you're looking into the length of the beam instead of > across it.The particles show up much better doing it that way. > > Trem > www.silvergen.com > Constant Current Colloid Generators > > - Original Message - > From: 2001 TV VCR > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 1999 3:11 AM > Subject: CS>LASER & CS > > > I just started testing the CS that I make, using a pocket laser and > > there is no red beam visible inside the glass even though the > > latest batch is quite yellow. > > > > Testing some store bought 10ppm (also yellow) I do see the red beam > however > > it is very faint and only visible in a dark room. The > > laser does have a narrow beam and is very bright (produces a > > small red circle on a wall 30 feet away). Need advice. > > > > Bret > > > > > > > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > >
Re: CS>corpal tunnel
Henley Healthcare has a cold laser device called the MicroLite 830 that will cure CTS. It was successfully tested over 3 years ago on a GM assembly line but the %...@* FDA has been sitting on their hands because, in my opinion, they want to prevent chiropractors and physical therapists from treating and curing an ailment that will then put all those wrist surgeons out of business. Interestingly, it has been approved for veterinary use for years, so the dogs and horses can get cured but we don't. Maybe if you know a friendly vet, he will treat you. Otherwise call Henley in Sugarland, Texas, and inquire if there is an FDA testing protocol going on in your area. Dick Marshall Dudley wrote: > I had two people ask me if there was anything besides surgery for CT. Said I > would try and find out. Anyone? > > Marshall > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS while Pregnant
Can anyone answer this question? Dick Jaffe wrote: > A pregnant lady with whom I work, who has been taking CS to ward off > colds and the flu, asked me to find out if it is safe to continue taking > it while pregnant. > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS while Pregnant
A pregnant lady with whom I work, who has been taking CS to ward off colds and the flu, asked me to find out if it is safe to continue taking it while pregnant. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Laser Torch
Try Office Max; Office Depot or Staples. All sell laser pointers, if that's what you mean. Ron Cuthbertson wrote: > Hello, > > Can anyone please suggest a likely supplier Stateside of the above? > Sometime ago Bob Berger suggested Walmart had two types. Recent enquiry > by my daughter in central Florida revealed that these had been withdrawn > from sale because adolescents were making use of them for purposes other > than those for which they were designed. > > Thanks > > Ron > -- > Ron Cuthbertson > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>An inexpensive Water Distiller
For all you dedicated CS listers, I stopped by my neighborhood Sears today and discovered that they had on sale (until 12/18) a really neat Kenmore Distiller reduced to $89.99 from $129.00. It looks exactly like the one Waterwise has on "Special" for $219.00 and I'm sure both were made by the same manufacturer. The Kenmore (and Waterwise) both make a gallon in four hours. In the long run it's cheaper than buying jugs in the supermarket and you can be assured of the purity of the product. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Intro and questions
the solution while in a clear glass container. If you see a bright red line reflecting off of the silver particles in solution, you are A-OK. Try it through plain distilled water and you will see nothing! Bon Appetit !! Dick Jaffe G&B Rogers wrote: > Hello listers from a newbie, > I bought a CS generator and after seeing how simple it is, have tried my > hand at making some, hopefully to give to family for holiday gifts. The > version I am using is the one that comes from the Beck papers. My only > difficulty is getting a 24 grain of wheat bulb. I substituted a 14 v. > green LED bulb on the first one I made, (as a similar LED bulb was used on > the generator I purchased - although it uses only a 9 v. battery) but it > was quite difficult to see if the bulb was even lighting up. The flow > through the silver wire electrode was somewhat slow, I thought it would > work "faster" with the 27 voltage of batteries soldered in series than the > 9v powered purchased machine, but it didn't. > > My second version used a red 5v LED with integrated resistor, but when I > tested it, within seconds the water became cloudy. > > My questions are these: > 1) Can this be built without a bulb - just the three 9v clips in series > connected to alligator clips via zipper insulated wire? > 2) What would cause the second version (5v red LED) to make the water > cloudy so quickly, and is there a way to fix this? > 3) can other bulbs besides the recommended one (24v) be used for the 27v > battery version? > 4) I have been using the CS mostly for external disinfection so have been > using primarily purified water, not distilled. When I use distilled, even > when I leave the electrodes in for an hour, I do not get the golden color. > I have been adding only a drop of a baking soda solution to the distilled > water that I read helps with the process. > > Any suggestions for making these CS would be appreciated! I'm rather in a > time crunch since I need to get these done for the holidays. I figured > that with Y2K, all of my family could use having a generator on hand! > > I haven't done any of this kind of thing since I was a kid building Heath > kits with my dad, so if my explanations aren't clear enough, please forgive > me. > > Thank you, > Beth > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS and the latest FDA crackdown!
Check this out! We are evolving into a police state run by medical fascists! http://www.bioelectrifier.com/index.htm";> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Containers for storing CS?
I have used brwn plastic peroxide bottles to store CS for as long as a month and the contents still reflected the laser line when poured out into a glass (Tyndall effect). tosca...@mindspring.com wrote: > Hello list, > First of all since I admit I am mainly a "lurker" and only post > once in a while, let me say "thank you" to you all for the wonderful > discussions and information here. > I am wondering if it would be okay to store CS in an opaque plastic > bottle. Usually I use thick blue glass bottles because I always thought > that CS must be stored in a glass container. I am aware that the container, > whatever the material, must be resistant to light transmission and I always > store my CS in a cool, dark cabinet. > Would the plastic be okay for short-term storage? Long-term? The > concern is that I am making up batches of CS to send off with relatives who > are visiting for the holidays and I do not have enough little glass bottles > to go around. > > Thanks, > > -D. Toscano > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>[Fwd: Silver Wire Source]
I'm no lady, but I can mail you a pair of 5 3/8" lengths of .999 fine 14 gauge round silver wire for a $5 bill or you can order 2 Oz of it (minimum order $25 plus shipping) from MYRON TOBACK, INC. in NYC (1-800-223-7550). Dick Jaffe 8255 SW 134th St Miami, FL 33156-6633 Nichols wrote: > > > Subject: Silver Wire Source > Date: Wed, 08 Dec 1999 19:04:22 -0500 > From: Nichols > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Does anybody know how to contact the lady who sells 99.9 silver wire for > $5.00 through the Silver-List? I am not sure of the purity of my wire, > the CS turns reddish brown after a couple days. Any suggestions? > > Troy Nichols enich...@tbscc.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>How to Make a CS Generator from Radio Shack Parts
Dick Jaffe 8255 S.W. 134 St. Miami, FL 33156-6633 I will also include a leather separator. dmngirl...@aol.com wrote: > Dick, > Could you send me your address so that I could mail you $5 for the silver > wire. > Donna Laning (dmngirl...@aol.com) > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Particle size
The presence of micron sized charged particles of silver. Robert Ratliff wrote: > What is viability? > > -Original Message- > From: Dick Jaffe [mailto:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > Sent: Monday, December 06, 1999 7:30 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Particle size > > Why not check the viability of your CS with a little > inexpensive laser pointer. Shine it at your solution > horizontally in a clear glass jar in a darkened room. If > you see a sparkling red line, that's a reflection off the > silver particles called the Tyndall effect. > > Nancy Steele wrote: > > > I am making CS with a solar battery charger. It is 12 > > volts and 125mA. My silver is light to medium yellow gold > > and very clear. It doesn't seem to precipitate at all and > > there are no particles that you can see. I want to be > > able to use a nebulizer and I am concerned about the > > difference between my 125mA and Brook's 12.5MA big > > difference in numbers and I'm not sure about the terms mA > > and MA. Sure hope there is some. Thanks for any help > > anyone can give. >
CS>How to Make a CS Generator from Radio Shack Parts
One of the listers asked me to explain how to make an inexpensive CS generator for less than $20 worth of Radio Shack parts, so I thought I'd repeat them for any others who were so inclined: All you need from Radio Shack are the following parts: Three 9 volt alkaline batteries Two AA batteries One battery holder with snap on terminals for two AA batteries Four snap on connectors for the 9 volt batteries and the AA holder One package of shrink wrap insulation One package of insulated wire with alligator clip ends One black plastic project box 5 1/2" long X 2 1/2" wide X 2" high Solder and flux and, of course, a soldering gun. Cut five 3/4" segments of shrink wrap tubes of the appropriate size to slip snugly over the snap on connector wires; one for each pair of connectors you are going to solder together in series (red to black). After each soldered connection is made and cooled, slip the shrink wrap tube over the connection and heat with a hair dryer to shrink it. You should then have four snap on connectors wired in series to each other. That leaves two free wires at the ends, one red and one black. To those wires (being sure to insert them into the remaining two shrink wrap tubes) you will then solder the two 12" wires with the insulated alligator clips on the end. Slide and heat the shrink wrap over the connections. Snap all the batteries into place being careful not to let the alligators bite each other (shorting out). Insert all into the project box and use a piece of styrofoam or foam rubber cut to size to keep everything in place before you screw down the lid. Oh yes, you will need to drill out a small notch at one upper end of the box for the egress of the wires with the alligator clips. Then just screw down the lid and get yourself two 5 3/8" lengths of .999 fine 14 gauge round silver wire that you can cut from a 2 Oz. coil (minimum order is $25 plus shipping) from Myron Toback, Inc. in NYC at 1-800-223-7550. Or, you can send me a $5 bill and I will mail you the silver wire pair which you must then insert in a strip of scrap leather, cardboard or plastic so as to keep them 1 1/2" apart when inserted into the heated distilled water. INSTRUCTIONS FOR MAKING COLLOIDAL SILVER WITH A HOMEMADE 30 VOLT GENERATOR * Heat 12 - 24 ounces of distilled water in microwave in glass jar (Campbell's Soup) and drop a tiny globule of honey on the tip of a toothpick into the water. * Connect + and - (red and black) alligator clips to hooked end of silver rods. * Be sure that rods are uniformly about 1½ inches apart and held parallel by a cardboard or plastic separator. * In about 5 minutes you will see hydrogen bubbles rising off the cathode (-) terminal.and a yellow misty cloud coming off the anode (+) terminal. * The yellow cloud consists of positively charged microscopic particles of silver .0001 microns in size. * Occasionally stir the solution gently with a plastic knife or drink stirrer. * The strength of the solution in parts per million (ppm) will depend on how long you leave the batteries connected to the silver rods in the heated water. * As a rough rule of thumb, you will get one additional ppm per minute of exposure. * So 10 minutes should give you a 10 ppm solution. Stronger than that is NOT necessarily better! * A normal CS solution will be pale yellow in color. * If you forget to shut down the process in time, you may get a greenish-yellow solution which indicates 30 or more ppm (You may dilute with distilled water) * If you get such a solution, you may also see small black flecks of silver in the water. * Don't panic! Just use a paper towel as a filter to line the inside of the funnel before you pour the solution into the empty peroxide bottle (or, better yet, an amber or cobalt blue glass container.) * You will note that both the anode and cathode have darkened from oxidized silver. * Clean off both rods after use by rubbing them down with the rough side of a dishwashing sponge or cloth; then rinse and polish with a paper towel. The 14 gauge silver rods should last for years.. * Shelf life of your colloidal silver solution should be 4 to six weeks (keep at room temperature, do not refrigerate) and you may shake a bit before use. * Viability of your solution may always be checked by using the Tyndall Effect in a darkened room where you shine a laser pointer horizontally into the solution while in a clear glass container. If you see a bright red line reflecting off of the silver particles in solution, you are A-OK. Try it through plain distilled water and you will see nothing! Bon Appetit !! Dick Jaffe -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo
Re: CS>Particle size
Why not check the viability of your CS with a little inexpensive laser pointer. Shine it at your solution horizontally in a clear glass jar in a darkened room. If you see a sparkling red line, that's a reflection off the silver particles called the Tyndall effect. Nancy Steele wrote: > I am making CS with a solar battery charger. It is 12 volts and > 125mA. My silver is light to medium yellow gold and very clear. It > doesn't seem to precipitate at all and there are no particles that you > can see. I want to be able to use a nebulizer and I am concerned > about the difference between my 125mA and Brook's 12.5MA big > difference in numbers and I'm not sure about the terms mA and MA. > Sure hope there is some. Thanks for any help anyone can give.
Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
After reflecting on your microwave link, I have to conclude that using it to heat distilled water to make CS will probably not be dangerous as I maintain about four bottles of CS at any given time and rotate them so I am always using CS that is several weeks old. I doubt that whatever dangerous "energy" is imparted to the water when heating it will persist for that length of time. Dick "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > Blowing up people is not right. Neither is transmogrification of this > planet into television sets that don't work anymore. Eating mother is > taboo. > > I don't buy the...".Well, kill a few here to save thousands > there"routine, no matter who tries it, and regardless of the motive or > intent. Pure Bullshit. What pisses them the most is Kaczinski ripping > off governments prerogative to decide who gets to kill, who gets killed, > and for whose purposes. > > If indeed he did it. How can we know? > > As a joke, it made me laugh > > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: Dick Jaffe [SMTP:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 8:34 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > You know, I'm beginning to think Ted Kaczinski was right! > > "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > > > Microwave? See: > http://www.dhcour.coe.fr/eng/JUDGMENTS/HERTEL%20ENG.html > > James Osbourne Holmes > > a...@trail.com > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dick Jaffe [SMTP:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 7:19 PM > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject:Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > > > 1 1/2 hours?? What kind of power source are you using? What gauge .999 > fine > > silver wire? I have never had to go longer than 15 minutes to make a 24 > Oz. jar > > of microwave heated distilled water (with a drop of honey) using my 30 > volt > > homemade DC generator. The Tyndall effect from my laser pointer reflects > a > > viable CS solution. It may not be scientifically precise, but it sure > works. > > > > Dick > > > > Robert Ratliff wrote: > > > > > I tried the honey trick and got gold water, but it took the same amount > of > > > time to brew 8 PPM. about 1 1/2 hours. I'll bet the particles are > larger. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Dick Jaffe [mailto:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 1:08 PM > > > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > > > > > > > > > > > I use only a tiny drop of honey on the end of a toothpick and I > > > > make my CS in a > > > > 24 Oz. "Simply Home" Campbell's soup jar. I can't recall now who > > > > gave me that > > > > honey trick but it was emphasized to use only a tiny drop. My 10 > minute > > > > solutions are clear and very pale yellow, not milky. > > > > > > > > 2001 TV VCR wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dick, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. I have tried the drop ( I used > > > > > a big drop) of honey when making 16 oz. CS > > > > > and it came out a real milky colored yellow. The > > > > > electrodes sure were clean though (no sludge). > > > > > > > > > > Obviously having any form of food in the mix > > > > > could cause unwanted silver compounds to be > > > > > formed. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone want to comment on this? > > > > > > > > > > Bil > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: Dick Jaffe > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 6:26 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, sludge > > > > > > > > > > > Try using a drop of honey on the tip of a toothpick stirred into > the > > > > > heated > > > > > > water before inserting the silver electrodes. I've been > > > > doing that for > > > > > > several years and get about a 10ppm solution, pale yellow in > color, in > > > > > about > > > > > > 10 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fred w
Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey and blowing up people.
Lighten up, I was just making a joke. Robert Ratliff wrote: > I'm missing something here. How did a drop of honey post turn into a blowing > up people thread? > > > -Original Message- > > From: James Osbourne, Holmes [mailto:a...@trail.com] > > Sent: Sunday, December 05, 1999 12:52 AM > > To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' > > Subject: RE: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > > > > > Blowing up people is not right. Neither is transmogrification of this > > planet into television sets that don't work anymore. Eating mother is > > taboo. > > > > I don't buy the...".Well, kill a few here to save thousands > > there"routine, no matter who tries it, and regardless of the > > motive or > > intent. Pure Bullshit. What pisses them the most is Kaczinski ripping > > off governments prerogative to decide who gets to kill, who gets killed, > > and for whose purposes. > > > > If indeed he did it. How can we know? > > > > As a joke, it made me laugh > > > > James Osbourne Holmes > > a...@trail.com > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dick Jaffe [SMTP:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 8:34 PM > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > > > You know, I'm beginning to think Ted Kaczinski was right! > > > > "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > > > > > Microwave? See: > > http://www.dhcour.coe.fr/eng/JUDGMENTS/HERTEL%20ENG.html > > > James Osbourne Holmes > > > a...@trail.com > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Dick Jaffe [SMTP:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 7:19 PM > > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Subject:Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > > > > > 1 1/2 hours?? What kind of power source are you using? What > > gauge .999 > > fine > > > silver wire? I have never had to go longer than 15 minutes to > > make a 24 > > Oz. jar > > > of microwave heated distilled water (with a drop of honey) using my 30 > > volt > > > homemade DC generator. The Tyndall effect from my laser > > pointer reflects > > a > > > viable CS solution. It may not be scientifically precise, but it sure > > works. > > > > > > Dick > > > > > > Robert Ratliff wrote: > > > > > > > I tried the honey trick and got gold water, but it took the > > same amount > > of > > > > time to brew 8 PPM. about 1 1/2 hours. I'll bet the particles are > > larger. > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > > From: Dick Jaffe [mailto:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 1:08 PM > > > > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I use only a tiny drop of honey on the end of a toothpick and I > > > > > make my CS in a > > > > > 24 Oz. "Simply Home" Campbell's soup jar. I can't recall now who > > > > > gave me that > > > > > honey trick but it was emphasized to use only a tiny drop. My 10 > > minute > > > > > solutions are clear and very pale yellow, not milky. > > > > > > > > > > 2001 TV VCR wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Dick, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. I have tried the drop ( I used > > > > > > a big drop) of honey when making 16 oz. CS > > > > > > and it came out a real milky colored yellow. The > > > > > > electrodes sure were clean though (no sludge). > > > > > > > > > > > > Obviously having any form of food in the mix > > > > > > could cause unwanted silver compounds to be > > > > > > formed. > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyone want to comment on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > Bil > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > > From: Dick Jaffe > > > > > > To: > > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 6:26 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, sludge >
Re: CS>Health Research Group and CS/was pig fat
Never underestimate the power of the pharmaceutical cartel. It's all about money! Creston wrote: > Hi Dick, > I am on another list and when I saw your post then, I went to the site below > for a search and found some more stuff on CS. Certainly, like you, I feel > they have not done their homework. > > I am starting to wonder if they have merged or *always were* (into quack > watch, covering the other end ) They appear to be hot and heavy into > "Steve Barrett-onics". > > http://www.citizen.org:8765/ > clicked on search, then entered > colloidal silver > then scrolled down to # 28 > * > Excerpt follows - here (copy and paste) > > Public Citizen's Health Research Group's(1) Comments On: > > Food and Drug Administration > List of Bulk Drug Substances That May Be Used in Pharmacy Compounding > > [Docket No. 98N-0182] > Submitted - March 23, 1999 > > 28. Silver Protein Mild. Mild silver protein is well characterized > chemically. It has been used to treat conjunctivitis and by ophthalmologists > as a preoperative chemical preparation of the eye. > > Colloidal silver is a dangerous quack product that is being heavily promoted > on the Internet. The following was taken from the web site of Allison's > Apothecary, 3628 East Willow Avenue, Phoenix, AZ: > > "Without overstating the case, it may be time to recognize colloidal silver > as not only the safest medicine on Earth, but also the most powerful. > > Since there is not enough room to list all the diseases against which > colloidal silver has been used successfully, here is a tiny sample; acne; > allergies; appendicitis; acne, allergies, appendicitis, arthritis, athlete's > foot, bladder inflammation, blood parasites, blood poisoning, boils, burns, > candida, cholera, colitis, conjunctivitis, cystitis, dermatitis, herpes, > impetigo, indigestion, keratitis, leprosy, leukemia, lupus, lymphangitis, > Lyme disease, malaria, meningitis, neurasthenia, parasitic infections: > viral, fungal and bacterial pneumonia, pleurisy, prostate pruritus ani, > psoriasis, purulent opthalmia, rhinitis, rheumatism, ringworm, scarlet > fever, septic conditions of the eyes, ears, mouth, and throat, seborrhea, > septicemia, shingles, staphylococcus and streptococcus infections, stomach > flu, syphilis, thyroid, tuberculosis, tonsillitis, toxemia, trachoma, all > forms of virus, warts, whooping cough, yeast infection, stomach ulcer, > canine parovirus and other veterinary uses, and all fungal and viral attacks > on plants. Simply spray diluted silver on the leaves and add to the soil. > (61)" > > Long-term use of silver preparations can lead to argyria, a condition in > which silver salts deposit in the skin, eyes, and internal organs, and the > skin turns ashen-gray. Many cases of argyria occurred during the > pre-antibiotic era when silver was a common ingredient in nose drops. When > the cause became apparent, doctors stopped recommending their use, and > reputable manufacturers stopped producing them. The official drug guidebooks > (United States Pharmacopeia and National Formulary) have not listed > colloidal silver products since 1975.(62) > > In October 1996, the FDA proposed to establish that all over-the-counter > (OTC) drug products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts > for internal or external use are not generally recognized as safe and > effective and are misbranded. The FDA issued this proposal because many > products containing colloidal silver ingredients or silver salts are being > marketed for numerous serious disease conditions and the FDA is not aware of > any substantial scientific evidence that supports the use of OTC colloidal > silver ingredients or silver salts for these disease conditions.(63) Public > Citizen strongly urges that the FDA finalize this proposed rule as soon as > possible. > > Numerous FDA approved ophthalmic products are available for the treatment of > conjunctivitis and as antibiotics for use in the eyes and because of its > association with argyria mild silver protein should not be included on the > list of bulk drug substances that may be compounded. > > -end of copy and paste - > > Dick, I for one am glad that you steered my attention to this site. Somehow, > I had thought Dr. Sidney Wolfe's stuff was reliable but I see it's not. > H.B. > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. > Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
You know, I'm beginning to think Ted Kaczinski was right! "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > Microwave? See: http://www.dhcour.coe.fr/eng/JUDGMENTS/HERTEL%20ENG.html > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: Dick Jaffe [SMTP:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 7:19 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > 1 1/2 hours?? What kind of power source are you using? What gauge .999 fine > silver wire? I have never had to go longer than 15 minutes to make a 24 Oz. > jar > of microwave heated distilled water (with a drop of honey) using my 30 volt > homemade DC generator. The Tyndall effect from my laser pointer reflects a > viable CS solution. It may not be scientifically precise, but it sure works. > > Dick > > Robert Ratliff wrote: > > > I tried the honey trick and got gold water, but it took the same amount of > > time to brew 8 PPM. about 1 1/2 hours. I'll bet the particles are larger. > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Dick Jaffe [mailto:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 1:08 PM > > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > > > > > > > > I use only a tiny drop of honey on the end of a toothpick and I > > > make my CS in a > > > 24 Oz. "Simply Home" Campbell's soup jar. I can't recall now who > > > gave me that > > > honey trick but it was emphasized to use only a tiny drop. My 10 minute > > > solutions are clear and very pale yellow, not milky. > > > > > > 2001 TV VCR wrote: > > > > > > > Dick, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. I have tried the drop ( I used > > > > a big drop) of honey when making 16 oz. CS > > > > and it came out a real milky colored yellow. The > > > > electrodes sure were clean though (no sludge). > > > > > > > > Obviously having any form of food in the mix > > > > could cause unwanted silver compounds to be > > > > formed. > > > > > > > > Anyone want to comment on this? > > > > > > > > Bil > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > From: Dick Jaffe > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 6:26 PM > > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, sludge > > > > > > > > > Try using a drop of honey on the tip of a toothpick stirred into the > > > > heated > > > > > water before inserting the silver electrodes. I've been > > > doing that for > > > > > several years and get about a 10ppm solution, pale yellow in color, in > > > > about > > > > > 10 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > Fred wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Is it possible to make 5 or 10 ppm CS by the gallon > > > > > > > >> without the sludge using low voltage? > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> Bil > > > > > > > > > > > > The process of generating colloidal silver is the same as > > > > > > the plating process - ions are released and travel to the > > > > > > negative electrode where they collect an electron and turn > > > > > > back into silver. You can not stop that process! The fact > > > > > > they are sludge instead of nice shiny silver is that conditions > > > > > > are not right for fine crystal growth - normal silver plating uses > > > > > > cyanuric acid to provide good conductivity of the solution and > > > > > > to assist in forming fine grain crystals. What you get are more > > > > > > like snow flakes, weakly bound/random crystals! > > > > > > > > > > > > See my other post why the HV AC process avoids sludge > > > > > > formation, by blasting the sludge forming metal particles into > > > > > > the solution as quickly as formed. This unfortunately makes > > > > > > metallic particles, not ions of silver, but at least no crystals! > > > > > > > > > > > > f...@health2us.com (took a day off from work today!) > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of > > > colloidal silver. > > > > > > > > > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail > > > message to: > > > > > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > > > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > > > > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > > > > > > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > > Silver-list archive: > > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > >
Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
Is the water heated almost to a boil before you start? A few times I've forgotten to disconnect my unit and after 20 - 30 minutes I've had a yellow-greenish solution with black flecks floating in it. I just can't imagine 90 minutes, even with unheated water. Is your solution clear after all that time? How fresh are your batteries? Have you ever tried the Tyndall effect with a laser pointer? What is this device that you're relying on for the PPM reading? How do you know how accurate it is? Dick Robert Ratliff wrote: > The standard 3 9 volt battery. Remember I measure mine with a PPM meter. > Measures nothing in 10 min. Takes 1 1/2 hour to get to 8 PPM. > > > -----Original Message- > > From: Dick Jaffe [mailto:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 9:19 PM > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > > > > > 1 1/2 hours?? What kind of power source are you using? What > > gauge .999 fine > > silver wire? I have never had to go longer than 15 minutes to > > make a 24 Oz. jar > > of microwave heated distilled water (with a drop of honey) using > > my 30 volt > > homemade DC generator. The Tyndall effect from my laser pointer > > reflects a > > viable CS solution. It may not be scientifically precise, but it > > sure works. > > > > Dick > > > > Robert Ratliff wrote: > > > > > I tried the honey trick and got gold water, but it took the > > same amount of > > > time to brew 8 PPM. about 1 1/2 hours. I'll bet the particles > > are larger. > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > > From: Dick Jaffe [mailto:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > > > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 1:08 PM > > > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > > > > > > > > > > > I use only a tiny drop of honey on the end of a toothpick and I > > > > make my CS in a > > > > 24 Oz. "Simply Home" Campbell's soup jar. I can't recall now who > > > > gave me that > > > > honey trick but it was emphasized to use only a tiny drop. > > My 10 minute > > > > solutions are clear and very pale yellow, not milky. > > > > > > > > 2001 TV VCR wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dick, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. I have tried the drop ( I used > > > > > a big drop) of honey when making 16 oz. CS > > > > > and it came out a real milky colored yellow. The > > > > > electrodes sure were clean though (no sludge). > > > > > > > > > > Obviously having any form of food in the mix > > > > > could cause unwanted silver compounds to be > > > > > formed. > > > > > > > > > > Anyone want to comment on this? > > > > > > > > > > Bil > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > > > From: Dick Jaffe > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 6:26 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, sludge > > > > > > > > > > > Try using a drop of honey on the tip of a toothpick > > stirred into the > > > > > heated > > > > > > water before inserting the silver electrodes. I've been > > > > doing that for > > > > > > several years and get about a 10ppm solution, pale yellow > > in color, in > > > > > about > > > > > > 10 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Fred wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Is it possible to make 5 or 10 ppm CS by the gallon > > > > > > > > >> without the sludge using low voltage? > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> Bil > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The process of generating colloidal silver is the same as > > > > > > > the plating process - ions are released and travel to the > > > > > > > negative electrode where they collect an electron and turn > > > > > > > back into silver. You can not stop that process! The fact > > > > > > > they are sludge instead of nice shiny silver is that conditions > > > > > > > are not right for fine crystal g
Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
1 1/2 hours?? What kind of power source are you using? What gauge .999 fine silver wire? I have never had to go longer than 15 minutes to make a 24 Oz. jar of microwave heated distilled water (with a drop of honey) using my 30 volt homemade DC generator. The Tyndall effect from my laser pointer reflects a viable CS solution. It may not be scientifically precise, but it sure works. Dick Robert Ratliff wrote: > I tried the honey trick and got gold water, but it took the same amount of > time to brew 8 PPM. about 1 1/2 hours. I'll bet the particles are larger. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Dick Jaffe [mailto:rasputi...@earthlink.net] > > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 1:08 PM > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > > > > > I use only a tiny drop of honey on the end of a toothpick and I > > make my CS in a > > 24 Oz. "Simply Home" Campbell's soup jar. I can't recall now who > > gave me that > > honey trick but it was emphasized to use only a tiny drop. My 10 minute > > solutions are clear and very pale yellow, not milky. > > > > 2001 TV VCR wrote: > > > > > Dick, > > > > > > Thanks for the tip. I have tried the drop ( I used > > > a big drop) of honey when making 16 oz. CS > > > and it came out a real milky colored yellow. The > > > electrodes sure were clean though (no sludge). > > > > > > Obviously having any form of food in the mix > > > could cause unwanted silver compounds to be > > > formed. > > > > > > Anyone want to comment on this? > > > > > > Bil > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: Dick Jaffe > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 6:26 PM > > > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, sludge > > > > > > > Try using a drop of honey on the tip of a toothpick stirred into the > > > heated > > > > water before inserting the silver electrodes. I've been > > doing that for > > > > several years and get about a 10ppm solution, pale yellow in color, in > > > about > > > > 10 minutes. > > > > > > > > Fred wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >> Is it possible to make 5 or 10 ppm CS by the gallon > > > > > > >> without the sludge using low voltage? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Bil > > > > > > > > > > The process of generating colloidal silver is the same as > > > > > the plating process - ions are released and travel to the > > > > > negative electrode where they collect an electron and turn > > > > > back into silver. You can not stop that process! The fact > > > > > they are sludge instead of nice shiny silver is that conditions > > > > > are not right for fine crystal growth - normal silver plating uses > > > > > cyanuric acid to provide good conductivity of the solution and > > > > > to assist in forming fine grain crystals. What you get are more > > > > > like snow flakes, weakly bound/random crystals! > > > > > > > > > > See my other post why the HV AC process avoids sludge > > > > > formation, by blasting the sludge forming metal particles into > > > > > the solution as quickly as formed. This unfortunately makes > > > > > metallic particles, not ions of silver, but at least no crystals! > > > > > > > > > > f...@health2us.com (took a day off from work today!) > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of > > colloidal silver. > > > > > > > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail > > message to: > > > > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > > > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > > > > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > > Silver-list archive: > > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > >
Re: CS>Re:Pig fat
Here's a perfect example of how it works against truth: E-MAIL TO THE HEALTH RESEARCH GROUP PUBLISHERS OF WORST PILLS BEST PILLS Your organization performs a vital and valuable public service by exposing many of the dangerous and toxic prescription medications foisted on an unsuspecting public by the pharmaceutical giants and their protector/enforcers at the FDA. So I was saddened and disappointed to read the article on page 76 of your October issue parroting the half truths and outright lies of the FDA about colloidal silver. The article reads like it was written by some FDA flack without anyone in your organization checking the facts. It starts out mentioning colloidal silver by erroneously describing it as being in a gelatinous base (false: true colloidal silver comes in distilled water, has a limited shelf life of 4 to 6 weeks, and depends for its efficacy on the positive electrical charge of the microscopic silver particles). The rest of the article deals with various silver compounds like silver proteins, silver chloride and silver iodide (NOT COLLOIDAL SILVER). The paragraph dealing with ARGYRIA is laughably false. There has NEVER been a case of argyria from colloidal silver because the microscopic particles are too small to migrate out through the skin. I have been drinking CS for two years now, and I can assure you I have not turned blue. I began taking CS because whenever I would catch a cold, two or three times a year, it would all too often degenerate into a severe bronchial infection with greenish yellow phlegm in the lungs. I would then be forced to take a miserable regimen of antibiotics with their nasty gastrointestinal side effects. Since taking the CS daily, despite repeated exposure at my office, I have not had so much as a case of the sniffles in TWO YEARS! Did anyone in your organization bother to find out how CS germicidal action works? Unlike those overpriced miserable antibiotics, no virus or one celled bacterial pathogen can survive for more than six minutes in the presence of positively charged microscopic particles of colloidal silver because it inhibits their ability to metabolize oxygen and they suffocate and die. Unlike with conventional antibiotics, they are unable to develop a resistance to its effects. So if one takes it daily, as I do, then one has positively charged silver particles circulating in the bloodstream functioning as a de facto auxilliary immune system. By the way, I don't buy my CS in any health food store or on the internet. Due to its limited shelf life, there's no way of determining if you're buying colloidal silver or distilled water. I make it myself with a home made generator consisting of parts bought in any Radio Shack for less than $20 and containing three 9 volt batteries and two AA batteries wired in series to deliver 30 volts. I get my .999 fine 14 gauge silver wire from a reliable metal fabricator and connect the + and - terminals coming off the batteries with insulated alligator clips to two 5 1/2" lengths of silver wire. I then heat up some DISTILLED water in a 24 ounce mason jar, insert the silver anode and cathode and in ten minutes I have a 10 ppm colloidal silver solution. In short, I am the FDA's and the pharmaceutical cartel's worst nightmare. I MANUFACTURE MY OWN ANTIBIOTIC FOR FREE and it protects me from 650 varieties of viral and bacterial pathogens. I wonder why you, the mainstream media, and the American public at large have never heard of this. Could it have anything to do with MONEY and protecting the trillion dollar pharmaceutical industry that kills hundreds of thousands every year with the side effects of their FDA approved medications? You call yourself the "Health Research Group"? It's time for you to do a little of that before you foolishly swallow and repeat the mindless pap the FDA has been feeding you. Such is not in the tradition of Ralph Nader! I have yet to receive a reply! Dick "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote: > You're catching on. > > And now, turn your attention to "History". > > When you pull the curtain aside for "Government", it is even more devastating > to one's reality benchmarks. > > It is all a lie. > > James Osbourne Holmes > a...@trail.com > > -Original Message- > From: Katarina Wittich [SMTP:kato...@mindspring.com] > Sent: Saturday, December 04, 1999 5:12 PM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject:CS>Re:Pig fat > > If this is true -- and it sure sounds like it is - it's one of the most > amazing things I've ever read. > It seems most of the things I believed as little as a year ago are not true. > > Milk does not build strong bones -- it leaches calcium out of them. > Flouride does not build strong teeth and prevent cavities -- but it does do > awful damage to you. > Vegetable oils are not better for your cardiovascular system than animal > fats. > Tofu is not the best thing since sliced bread. > > Sliced bread is pretty questionable unless it is
Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
Yes, of course, I asumed that anyone making CS would know that you must use distilled water to avoid unwanted silver compounds with the impurities in tap water. Dwight Lorenz wrote: > Dick--I think you forgot to emphasize that only > distilled water should be used to make CS. > Dwight > > -Original Message----- > From: Dick Jaffe > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Date: Saturday, December 04, 1999 10:10 AM > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey > > >I use only a tiny drop of honey on the end of a toothpick and I make my CS > in a > >24 Oz. "Simply Home" Campbell's soup jar. I can't recall now who gave me > that > >honey trick but it was emphasized to use only a tiny drop. My 10 minute > >solutions are clear and very pale yellow, not milky. > > > >2001 TV VCR wrote: > > > >> Dick, > >> > >> Thanks for the tip. I have tried the drop ( I used > >> a big drop) of honey when making 16 oz. CS > >> and it came out a real milky colored yellow. The > >> electrodes sure were clean though (no sludge). > >> > >> Obviously having any form of food in the mix > >> could cause unwanted silver compounds to be > >> formed. > >> > >> Anyone want to comment on this? > >> > >> Bil > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: Dick Jaffe > >> To: > >> Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 6:26 PM > >> Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, sludge > >> > >> > Try using a drop of honey on the tip of a toothpick stirred into the > >> heated > >> > water before inserting the silver electrodes. I've been doing that for > >> > several years and get about a 10ppm solution, pale yellow in color, in > >> about > >> > 10 minutes. > >> > > >> > Fred wrote: > >> > > >> > > > >> Is it possible to make 5 or 10 ppm CS by the gallon > >> > > > >> without the sludge using low voltage? > >> > > > >> > >> > > > >> Bil > >> > > > >> > > The process of generating colloidal silver is the same as > >> > > the plating process - ions are released and travel to the > >> > > negative electrode where they collect an electron and turn > >> > > back into silver. You can not stop that process! The fact > >> > > they are sludge instead of nice shiny silver is that conditions > >> > > are not right for fine crystal growth - normal silver plating uses > >> > > cyanuric acid to provide good conductivity of the solution and > >> > > to assist in forming fine grain crystals. What you get are more > >> > > like snow flakes, weakly bound/random crystals! > >> > > > >> > > See my other post why the HV AC process avoids sludge > >> > > formation, by blasting the sludge forming metal particles into > >> > > the solution as quickly as formed. This unfortunately makes > >> > > metallic particles, not ions of silver, but at least no crystals! > >> > > > >> > > f...@health2us.com (took a day off from work today!) > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal > silver. > >> > > > >> > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message > to: > >> > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- > silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > >> > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >> > > > >> > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >> > > Silver-list archive: > http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >> > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >> >
Re: CS>Re: Bil, Sludge & Honey
I use only a tiny drop of honey on the end of a toothpick and I make my CS in a 24 Oz. "Simply Home" Campbell's soup jar. I can't recall now who gave me that honey trick but it was emphasized to use only a tiny drop. My 10 minute solutions are clear and very pale yellow, not milky. 2001 TV VCR wrote: > Dick, > > Thanks for the tip. I have tried the drop ( I used > a big drop) of honey when making 16 oz. CS > and it came out a real milky colored yellow. The > electrodes sure were clean though (no sludge). > > Obviously having any form of food in the mix > could cause unwanted silver compounds to be > formed. > > Anyone want to comment on this? > > Bil > > - Original Message - > From: Dick Jaffe > To: > Sent: Friday, December 03, 1999 6:26 PM > Subject: Re: CS>Re: Bil, sludge > > > Try using a drop of honey on the tip of a toothpick stirred into the > heated > > water before inserting the silver electrodes. I've been doing that for > > several years and get about a 10ppm solution, pale yellow in color, in > about > > 10 minutes. > > > > Fred wrote: > > > > > > >> Is it possible to make 5 or 10 ppm CS by the gallon > > > > >> without the sludge using low voltage? > > > > >> > > > > >> Bil > > > > > > The process of generating colloidal silver is the same as > > > the plating process - ions are released and travel to the > > > negative electrode where they collect an electron and turn > > > back into silver. You can not stop that process! The fact > > > they are sludge instead of nice shiny silver is that conditions > > > are not right for fine crystal growth - normal silver plating uses > > > cyanuric acid to provide good conductivity of the solution and > > > to assist in forming fine grain crystals. What you get are more > > > like snow flakes, weakly bound/random crystals! > > > > > > See my other post why the HV AC process avoids sludge > > > formation, by blasting the sludge forming metal particles into > > > the solution as quickly as formed. This unfortunately makes > > > metallic particles, not ions of silver, but at least no crystals! > > > > > > f...@health2us.com (took a day off from work today!) > > > > > > -- > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Re: Bil, sludge
Try using a drop of honey on the tip of a toothpick stirred into the heated water before inserting the silver electrodes. I've been doing that for several years and get about a 10ppm solution, pale yellow in color, in about 10 minutes. Fred wrote: > > >> Is it possible to make 5 or 10 ppm CS by the gallon > > >> without the sludge using low voltage? > > >> > > >> Bil > > The process of generating colloidal silver is the same as > the plating process - ions are released and travel to the > negative electrode where they collect an electron and turn > back into silver. You can not stop that process! The fact > they are sludge instead of nice shiny silver is that conditions > are not right for fine crystal growth - normal silver plating uses > cyanuric acid to provide good conductivity of the solution and > to assist in forming fine grain crystals. What you get are more > like snow flakes, weakly bound/random crystals! > > See my other post why the HV AC process avoids sludge > formation, by blasting the sludge forming metal particles into > the solution as quickly as formed. This unfortunately makes > metallic particles, not ions of silver, but at least no crystals! > > f...@health2us.com (took a day off from work today!) > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
I get my .999 fine round 14 gauge silver wire from MYRON TOBACK, INC. in NYC at 1-800-223-7550. Minimum order is $25 plus shipping for which you will get 2 Oz. or about 10 feet of wire. A very reputable and reliable supplier. Tony Gallistel wrote: > Seeking best source for pure silver wire in quantity. Quality first > consideration, cost second. > > Regards, > > Tony Gallistel > > A. Gallistel, Co. > 16186 109th St. NW > South Haven, MN 55382 > Phone 320-236-1705 > Fax 320-236-3015 > agall...@lkdllink.lkdllink.net > > > >Part 1.2Type: application/ms-tnef >Encoding: base64 -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
