RE: CSHoping for direct answers

2004-12-04 Thread J J

Jonathon writes,

One comment about this exhaled mist:   quite a long time ago, a long-absent 
list member who was very active in SARS studies claimed that exhaled vapor 
from SARS patients, treated with some kind of inhalation therapy,  rapidly 
infected the therapists, doctors, and nurses.


I have a problem with the 'danger of exhaled mist' claim,
especially when there isn't more detailed data.  There are
just far too many unanswered questions.

For one, don't SARS patients normally exhale? Is there some
special property of exhaled nebulizer mist compared to
exhaled breath? Do airborne viruses in the lungs attach
themselves more readily to exhaled mist than exhaled breath,
the latter containing microscopic water vapor particles?
You know, like the fogging produced when a person breathes
on a mirror?

For two, wouldn't there be some reduction in the viability
of a virus that lands on a water droplet laden with ionic
EIS? Surely THAT satisfies the 'direct contact' mechanism.

For three, what I can recall about the original claim, and
my apologies for the speculation and no supportive links,
was that the SARS patient was receiving a steroid medication
via a medical nebulizer. The only video I could find at the
time about that process showed copious and continuous amounts
of mist exiting both the patient and the machine. Such a
large volume of mist does not occur when using my machine
and I'll bet the same is true for most retail ultrasonic
nebulizer machines.

Bottom line:  if you are seriously ill and using a nebulizer, stay away 
from everyone!I believed the correspondent's report -- Catherine 
Someone  -- and have not forgotten it.


See http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m60283.html for
the start of the thread.  The comment about nebulizing is near
the bottom of the note.


...


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RE: CSHoping for direct answers

2004-12-03 Thread J J

Garnet writes, again:


The droplet size is important because you want it to penetrate deeply.


The 'smoke' from from an ultrasonic nebulizer has a droplet
size that is already small enough. Refer to my last note at
'Thirdly', especially the part where it says, ... puff of
mist exiting  If you have some other reason for this
exhaled mist, could you explain?


Larger droplets will condense on the cilia higher up in the lungs.


If this is true, what then happens to inhaled mist droplets
after the cilia become saturated with condensed mist? I
noticed, for example, when starting a new misting session,
that I can't exhale any mist, regardless of how deep a
breath I take. After 3 to 4 minutes of nebulizing though,
even a medium intake of breath will produce exhaled mist.
Where does the exhaled mist come from?  What's the mechanism
here?


Infection can occur higher up, but a lot of the mucous and pathogens are
deeper, at the level of the alveoli.


Right.  That's why people should nebulize for more than just
a few minutes per session.

Come on, Garnet. You seem to be quite knowledgeable about
and have some experience in biology. Answer or refute the
questions and statements I've put forth. My personal
experience contradicts what you've said here about the mist
from ultrasonic humidifiers. Please explain.

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RE: CSHoping for direct answers

2004-12-02 Thread J J

Garnet writes,

If this is the design that uses an ultrasonic humidifier then it is not a 
nebulizer at all. The size of the droplet is not small enough to reach into 
the bronchioles. An ultrasonic humidifier produces too large of a droplet 
to penetrate deep into the lungs to the site of infection. Most of the 
vapor will condense in the trachea and the upper bronchi because the 
droplets from this type of unit are

too large.


Hiya Garnet,

Firstly, doesn't air exchange in the lungs take place across
the walls of the alveolus, not the bronchioles? So wouldn't
an inhaled particle first have to pass through those walls
before getting to the bloodstream?

Secondly, wouldn't a droplet of inhaled mist of ANY
reasonably small size contain ions of silver? Assuming of
course, that EIS/CS was the liquid in the nebulizer or
ultrasonic humidifier. And when a mist droplet hits an
alveolar sac, won't the sac walls absorb those silver ions
with ease? After all, oxygen molecules are absorbed quite
easily and they are bigger in diameter than silver ions.

Thirdly, I use an ultrasonic humidifier to mist my EIS. It's
a Sunbeam model #697. I've connected a flexible PVC tube
that runs from the mist port which places the mist directly
at my nose or mouth. If I inhale the mist deeply via nose or
mouth and then immediately exhale, I can see a brief puff of
mist exiting my mouth. To me this means the EIS mist is
getting all the way into my lungs. If I hold my breath for
even just a couple of seconds and then exhale, no puff of
mist can be seen. To me this means that either most of the
inhaled mist has condensed on lung tissue or that it has
turned into clear water vapor, making it even more likely to
be absorbed.

Fourthly, my bronchial and lung issues have dropped to
zero since I started daily use of this wonderful and cheap
ultrasonic tool.

It might be more complicated than this but I'm having a
little trouble understanding why the mist droplet diameter
is so important when the droplet contains ionic-sized
particles. As well, I doubt that any store-bought nebulizer
can make mist droplets that are the size of silver ions.

Jimmy Joe



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RE: CSPPM change to CS by adding 3% H2O2

2004-04-15 Thread J J

Stuff writes,


At 06:37 PM 4/14/2004 -0700, JJ wrote:

I did go ahead and make a normal batch and added 20 ml H2O2 during the 32 
hour brewing process.


What was the size of the batch?


5180 ml.

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RE: CSPPM change to CS by adding 3% H2O2

2004-04-14 Thread J J

Ode writes,

  In my experience, H2O2 should not be added during the process in any 
amount.

 I did that once and made copious amounts of shiny silver metal flakes big
enough to use in a snow scene paperweight. Conductivity never exceeded 13
uS after many hours.
..very pretty, but not useful.


Thanks for your response, Ode. Your results from adding H2O2 at the
beginning of a brew does sound ominous.

I did go ahead and make a normal batch and added 20 ml H2O2 during the
32 hour brewing process. Other than the conductivity change, so far up
to 12.78 uS after 5 days, no difference was noticed in the CS. Still
clear and no floating material, just like normal batches.  No H2O2
taste, either.

One obvious benefit: All the gray fuzzy material is gone! My method is
to bang the cathode frequently during brewing, knocking the major mass
of this accumulation into the batch which is then strained through
coffee filters when pouring the finished CS into storage containers.
This time though, only a fraction of the normal amount of gray
material was left in the generator jar at the end of the brew.
Although no filter was used when pouring the CS into a storage
container, there is now no gray stuff anywhere. Sparkle count in the
TE of a shaken container is quite high.

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RE: CSLVDC EIS predates use of DW as the solvent.

2004-04-14 Thread J J

Matthew writes,

(...)

He used a low-voltage, direct-current electrolysis circuit
to sinter pure silver electrodes into electrically-isolated
silver ions directly into a solvent, blood plasma.

(...)

Could you provide a reference to where the word 'sinter' is
defined in this way?  Most definitions I found relate more
to a low temperature bonding process and don't seem to fit
at all with electrolysis.

Much obliged,

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CSPPM change to CS by adding 3% H2O2

2004-04-11 Thread J J

Fellow CS/EISers:

In order to loosely document the effect on PPM when drugstore hydrogen
peroxide (3% H2O2) is added to home-brewed colloidal silver, I
recently made the following test:  At the end of one of my larger
batches, 20 ml of H2O2 was added. Batch was stirred continuously
throughout this test. Another 20 ml of H2O2 was added, 10 ml per
addition, at two other times. The below table shows the results:

Date   Time   MicroSiemens (µS)
--|--|--
040407  18006.68  (End-of-batch, added 20 ml H2O2)
040407  21008.66
040407  2300   10.05  (Added another 10 ml H2O2)
040408  0400   11.31
040408  0600   13.18
040408  1600   15.78  (Added another 10 ml H2O2)
040409  1800   16.15
040410  0630   17.15
040410  1730   17.78
040411  0730   18.37
040411  0930   18.68
040411  1300   18.98
040411  1430   19.07

The resulting increase in PPM was a little startling.

QUESTION -- Does anybody know if it would be detrimental to the
quality of generated CS if this much H2O2 was added to DW at the
beginning of the electrolytic process?

Specifics:

1) Freshly completed, 32 hour batch, PPM = 24.86 (Herx13 spreadsheet)
2) LVDC system, 1 ma current limited, paddle-stirred at 36RPM.
3) RO distilled DW, 5.18 liters, conductivity = 1.78 µS.
4) Anode - spiral of 34, , #12 AWG, Ag wire, 7 submerged.
5) Cathode - stainless steel rod, 1/4 diameter, 7 submerged.
6) Glass generating jar.
7) Benchtop conductivity meter, 0.2% accuracy @ 25C.

Thanks all,

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RE: CSquestion re this link/person

2003-11-20 Thread J J

To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSquestion re this link/person

Paula writes:


http://www.colloidalsilversolutions.com/orderform.html

Is this the person there was the controversy on a while back? Short-lived 
other CS list, etc?


Yes


Anybody know if this person/site is reputable?


Check here and decide for yourself.  May have to join the group.
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/colloidalsilver2/messagesearch?query=understanding%20cs...


Asking for a friend who buys CS there.
TIA
paula


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CSFalse Tyndall Effect?

2003-11-18 Thread J J

Matthew writes:

...snip


I have reason to think that the bubbler method can produce a spurious 
Tyndall Effect. I would not use it anymore.


Matthew: -- What reason is that? I mean, what is it that
could make the TE false?  False as in misleading?  As in
not effective?

I ask because my first year and a half of homemade CS
(about 30 gallons) was made using a LVDC method, 3ma current
limiting, a simple aquarium air pump, silicone tubing, and
an air stone to produce a vigorous stream of air bubbles as
a stirring mechanism.  The filtered result was clear CS,
about 20PPM (calculated) and was stored in PET#1-rated
clear plastic mineral water bottles.  I've worn out 2 pocket
lasers using them hundreds of times to check the
characteristics of the TE as a 5 liter batch was used up.
The TE pattern and change was almost always the same:

DAY# 1 -- Medium TE, some sparkles, some particles.
DAY# 3 -- Medium TE, some particles.
DAY# 5 -- Medium TE only.
DAY#10 -- Slightly lighter TE than 'medium'.
DAY#15 -- Same as DAY#10.
DAY#20 -- Same as DAY#10.

The above CS was used for swishing and swallowing, brushing
teeth, nebulizing, nose drops, eye wash, mouthwash, ear
irrigation, hair dye, and as underarm deodorant. By 6 months
of use, my arthritis had gone and colds, flu, and cold sores
were *almost* non-existent. After a year of use, the latter
three perennial illnesses were also eradicated.

Six months ago I switched to stirring my brews with a 36RPM
clock motor and a stick and paddle. The method is still LVDC
but the current limiting is now 1ma. Still 20PPM too, but it
takes 30 hours to get there.  The only change in the TE
pattern from above has been that there are now fewer
sparkles.

Based on personal experience, I would absolutely recommend
using air-bubbling as a viable method of stirring when
making CS.

Jimmy Joe

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RE: CSCS and nebulizer

2003-10-02 Thread J J

Al wrote:

snip...
If you take it in through the nose, most of it condenses on the hairs in 
the nose, some gets to the sinuses (if you breathe hard enough) and very 
little to the lungs. Persist with the mouth breathing and you should be 
O.K.


Hope this helps.

Al Davis


Interesting claim, Al. Would it be possible to support it
with a little more detail?

**

I suppose roughly doubling lung capacity in a couple of
months _could_ be attributed to 'very little' CS reaching
the lungs but there is this: In the initial stages of
nebulizing, when experimenting with nasal-only inhalation, I
noticed that a normal breath intake results in only clear
air exiting my nose. However, both shortening the *time* of
inhalation, that is, breathing quicker, OR increasing the
*depth* of inhalation, that is breathing deeper, can result
in a tiny puff of mist exiting my nose upon exhalation. The
same tiny puff would result if my mouth was used during
exhalation, as well. Granted, it's not a very scientific
observation, but it does appear like there might be some
kind of saturation mechanism at work when nebulizing.
Breathing slowly or normally may produce no mist upon
exhalation, but breathing rapidly or deeply does. At some
point in between, all mist taken into the lungs is
condensed, as shown by clear air exiting. At some other
point, uncondensed mist is expelled during exhalation.
Exactly where those points are or what percentage of mist is
absorbed or condensed, I can't say, but for me, the results
speak for themselves.  Sufficient CS has been taken into the
body to produce a desirable effect.

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RE: CSUltrasonic Nebulizer and CS

2003-09-30 Thread J J

-Original Message-
From: JohnW Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:40 AM To: 
silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:

CSUltrasonic Nebulizer and CS

Hi Group,

I could use some help and information.

snip...

Hiya JohnW,

Your condition might require something more than an ultrasonic
nebulizer or humidifier, but I can say that after almost a year of an
hour or more of daily use of CS in my ultrasonic humidifier, it
certainly hasn't harmed me one iota.

Mine is the Sunbeam #697, which you can see a little of, here:
http://www.sunbeamhealth.com/productdetail.asp?id=28

I have modified the mist port on my unit and have placed some flexible
PVC tubing over the port.  This yard length of tubing allows me to
place the exiting mist right next to my mouth or nose without me having
to be right on top of the machine.

When I first started using this device, I only inhaled via my mouth
and found that my throat was a little sensitive to either the mist or
the mist temperature, so much so that if I took too deep a breath, the
resulting tickle was so strong, it would make me cough. I switched to
inhaling the mist only via my nose and all such sensitivity went away.
I keep facial tissues handy to pat away the resulting condensation on
my nose and lips.

I don't have any lung problems, but data from this list convinced me
that the quickest way to get silver ions into my bloodstream, from my
homemade 20PPM (calculated) CS, other than IV, was via nebulizing. I
now keep a machine at my computer and one at my bedside, for use while
watching TV.

The only 'measurable' benefit, other than the total absence of colds
and flu this last year (nothing new here - a standard effect), has
been a marked improvement in lung capacity. My sedentary lifestyle,
the Internet, and lack of interest in exercise has reduced at least
one aspect of my breathing: The length of time I can hold my breath.
As a teenager in very good shape, I could do about 2 and a half
minutes. Last year, before starting the nebulizer regimen, my last
timed test was just over a minute. I always hyperventilate several
breaths before starting the test and even so, a minute was really a
stretch. Probably normal I figured, for someone in their 60s. A couple
of months after I started nebulizing, I ran the test again, just like
I have so many times before. Holy Moley! The time was just under two
minutes! I thought I made a timing mistake so I repeated it. Two
minutes and five seconds! I have since repeated the same test about 5
times and the results are always a little more than 2 minutes.

Well, that did it for me. Nebulizing CS will be part of my daily
regimen from here on out.

Hope this helps,

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CSNicole K - READ RECEIPT FEATURE STILL ON

2002-12-29 Thread J J

Dear Nicole,

I have written to you, privately, twice before about this.  Do you recall?  
You have a feature in your IncrediMail 2001 email program, called Read 
Receipts, set so that anyone who receives an offline email from you is 
supposed to send you an acknowledgement by return email.  I don't really 
think you want this, but every email you post to The Silver List is 
requesting my email program to send you a Read Receipt.  Could you please 
turn this feature off in your email program?


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RE: CSSimple Current Limiting CS Generator

2002-12-29 Thread J J

Ed wrote,
Steve, presently I am using a 110 VAC with a DC Bridge. The electronic guy 
that set it up said that the output was 54 VDC. I draw off a very little 
with a small motor hooked up as a stirrer. What do you think about the # 
1N5297 set up with this.


Also how do you know when it has reached the 1.0 ma ?

Ed Kasper, Santa Cruz, Ca.


I'm not Steve, but there are couple of points to consider:

1) My 110VAC system with a full-wave DC bridge rectifier,
capacitive ripple filtering and current limiting puts out
155VDC without connection to any load.

2) The system output voltage drops to 120VDC when initially
connected to distilled water, 7 submerged silver
electrodes and a current limit of 3 milliamps. A current
limit of 1ma (the 1N5297 value) would allow output voltage
to rise to about 145VDC.

3) The specs on the 1N5297 say that the Peak Operating
Voltage (POV) is 100 volts, which would be DC volts for
this case.

If your system really does output 54VDC, using the 1N5297
would be fine. If your system is like mine, and it should
be unless there is some special voltage regulator in the
circuit, using the 1N5297 as a current limiter would
destroy it by exceeding the POV rating of the diode.

Just my 2 cents,

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RE: CSsilver and cold sores

2002-12-23 Thread J J

Michele Lee wrote:
My husband has a nasty cold sore on the inside of his lip.  He doesn't 
normally use my CS because I'm leery as he has autoimmune hepatitis.  Do 
you think he should put CS on the sore to help it heal.


Mic... who is so new to this silver stuff


Cold sores in my mouth was the reason I got into making my own CS. For sure 
I'd get one at the beginning of a cold or attack of the flu but sometimes 
they would also show up even if I just was exposed to someone with a cold, 
like after shopping in a crowded store. Upon making my first 12PPM batch I 
started swishing and gargling, for a full 2 minutes, then spitting out, 
about an ounce of CS, 5 to 10 times a day. Within a few days the cold sore 
was gone. Within a month their reoccurrence was much reduced and after 6 
months, I stopped getting them. It has been about a year and a half since I 
started using CS and even though now I only swish, gargle and spit twice a 
day, I still haven't had another cold sore OR another cold.  Talk about a 
killer application!


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Re: CSanalyzing

2002-12-08 Thread J J
You are very welcome, Margaret.  As a lover of fine test instruments, and 
having owned a couple that didn't have manuals, I was happy to help out.  Do 
keep us posted on your progress with CS analysis.


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Margaret wrote:

Thank you very much Jimmy Joe, on my way.
Very best wishes,
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CSanalyzing

2002-12-07 Thread J J

Margaret:

Go to the link below, use the drop-down box to select 'Colorimeters and 
Spectrophotometers' then on the next page use its drop-down box to select 
'DR/2000 and DR/3000 Spectrophotomers' and that takes you to a page where 
you can download PDFs on Technical Procedures for your instrument.


http://www.hach.com/ASP/manuals.asp

Jimmy Joe

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Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 7:28 AM
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Subject: CSanalyzing

Hi everyone, I hope that someone here can help. My son has bought me a 
Hach, DR/2000 spectrophotometer from an auction, as a Christmas present. 
Problem being, there is no paper work or anything with it. Can anyone tell 
me how to use it?

Very best wishes
Margaret.





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Re: CSCS DMSO/MSM

2002-11-11 Thread J J



-Original Message-
From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@shaw.ca]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:10 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS  DMSO/MSM

Hi folks;

I've just experienced great results in the last 10 days or so using about 
15% DMSO with 85% CS and some sea salt and sodium bicarbonate to make it 
alkaline.  I'm using it in a nasal spray to get rid of a sinus infection 
that I've had for over a year. It's nearly gone now.  DMSO is an excellent 
antioxidant too and I'm getting much better results with it than I was with 
MSM in its place.


Duncan Crow


Hiya Duncan,

As a chronic sinus sufferer myself, this is *great* news! Accepting as
fact that you are not prescribing, could you share a few more details
about your mixture? Such as the purity or strength of the DMSO, the
PPM of the CS, and how much sea salt and sodium bicarbonate you used?
I admit to trying a few different CS mixtures as well, using H2O2 and
even some of my original nose drops, but they've not been as
successful as I'd like.

Many thanks in advance. If there's any problem with posting your
recipe, off-list to jimmy dot joe at msa dot hinet dot net is fine,
also.

Jimmy Joe





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Re: CSRe: 99.99%

2002-11-05 Thread J J

Arnold Beland wrote:


I have  12 ga, with a certificate of assay, available
to anyone on the silver list, for $8.50 per oz. including
shipping.
 Best Regards,
Arnold Beland


As well Arnold, you should mention that your ounce is a 34 length which 
works out to 3.00 per foot, quite reasonable compared to other prices I've 
seen.


You could also mention that anyone with a browser can view the wire at 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=977869590 .  This link is 
good for the next 5 days.


And no folks, I'm not related to Arnold in any way and I'm not involved in 
his business, but I did purchase 3 sets of wire from him and am very pleased 
with the product, the assay certificate, the transaction and the rapid and 
personal response to my emails.


Jimmy Joe



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RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread J J

Ode Coyote says:
snip...

  The PWT actually has a 4 digit display and pegs out at 999.x uS just
before it shows a 1 in the far left saying it can't read that high or any
higher.

...snip

Ken: You actually have a Hanna PWT with a 4 digit display?  The attached 
PWT.JPG from the Hanna website shows only 3 digits.  Can't see the decimal 
point, but it sure looks like only 3 digits.  Do you mean that when the uS 
reading gets above 99.9 another digit shows up on the left and the meter 
starts reading 100.0 or more, therefore becomes 4 digits?


Jimmy Joe

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RE: CSTDS/PWT meters

2002-10-31 Thread J J

Attachment of PWT.jpg this time.





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Re: CSPrecision VERSUS Accuracy

2002-10-30 Thread J J




-Original Message-
From: James Osbourne, Holmes
Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 5:20 AM
To: Silver-List
Subject: CSPrecision VERSUS Accuracy


Many, many thanks, James.  This is the best example I have ever
seen that describes this difficult-to-explain and easy-to-forget
principle.  It is now archived in 3 different locations in my
computer and also pasted to my wall so I won't soon forget the
aid.

Jimmy Joe




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CSGatorade Inquiries

2002-09-25 Thread J J

201 messages:

http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/search.html?query=gatorade

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CSRe: CS and Gatorade

2002-09-25 Thread J J

You read through ALL 201 messages in 50 minutes?

http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/search.html?query=gatorade



-Original Message-
From: form...@aol.com [mailto:form...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and gatoraide

I just went to the link about Gatorade and CS comments but could find no 
explanation as to WHY the Gatorade makes the CS more available to the body.

Does anyone know please?

Summer






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CSUnidentified subject!

2002-09-25 Thread J J

Summer, and all who asked:

Try this message.

http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/m8166.html

JJ

**  Reformated Quote  

Re: CSblue

From: Brooks Bradley (view other messages by this author)
Date: Sat, 22 May 1999 09:12:05

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Hello Vilik.

Lactated Ringer's is a manufactured, balanced fluid electrolyte)
solution (primarily composed of sodium, potassium, phosphorous,
calcium, magnesium and chlorine) in a composition very similar to that
of extracellular fluid. It has been used most successfully for
rehydration caused by deprivation of water, dysentery, shock trauma,
etc. Lactated Ringer's is close to the serum fraction of human blood,
less the red-cell components. It is quite difficult for me to conceive
of a person being allergic to Ringer's solution, since without the
substances and balanced properties therein, humans can not
survive---for long.

Sincerely. Brooks Bradley.

P.S Gatorade, is a trade name for a solution developed about 25 years
ago by a physician named Robert Cade. He developed it as a rehydration
protocol for the U. of Florida football team (hence the Gator prefix
in the name). It was very successful and a law suit followed between
Cade and the University over the rights. Gatorade contains glucose in
a percentage optimum for absorption through the alimentary epithelial
tissue (wall linings). Gatorade is absorbed approximately 11 times
more rapidly that plain tap water. Gatorade is, almost, as rapid
acting as IV administered Ringer's.



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From: form...@aol.com [mailto:form...@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 12:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSCS and gatoraide

I just went to the link about Gatorade and CS comments but could
find no explanation as to WHY the Gatorade makes the CS more available to 
the body.

Does anyone know please?

Summer






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CSSweating

2001-12-07 Thread Harry J. J. O'Neill
Another way to induce sweating is to drink  a good quality soup.  I just happen 
to notice that if I am having chicken soup and I drink a lot of the broth, I 
just start sweating.  It's usually annoying but I guess it can be therapeutic.


Re: CSHELP!!! I'm Confused!!!!!

2001-11-29 Thread Harry J. J. O'Neill
Christiane,

Isn't that funny!  I bought the same one!  I was impressed with what seemed to 
be his 
dedication to building good generators and with the apparent ease of operation 
- no wires and dangling batteries!  I'm so thrilled to hear about your success 
with your daughter's gall bladder.  Good luck and keep us all updated on your 
daughter. - Laura
  - Original Message - 
  From: John Osowiecki 
  To: Harry J. J. O'Neill 
  Cc: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 7:46 AM
  Subject: Re: CSHELP!!! I'm Confused!


  Laura,
  I am a single mom of toddlers, one of which is chronically ill.  For purity 
reasons I began making my own CS just over 2 years ago.  As you can imagine, it 
was imperitive that I find an inexpensive generator that made quality CS that 
didn't have to be watched during processing.  I already have enough on my 
plate and needed an effective CS that didn't take more time and energy out of 
my busy schedule.

  I found a generator for $40.00 that has been serving me wonderfully for this 
entire time.  That's less than the bottle of CS your husband just dropped, and 
I can't begin to tell you how easy it is.  I found the generator at 
www.sunstoneherbals.com

  Before I purchased the generator, I placed a phone call to the owner of the 
company (James) who not only was incredibly knowledgeable, but more than 
willing to take the time out of his day to thoroughly answer all my questions.  
Since then I have had more than a dozen friends and aquaintances buy a 
generator from him and ALL of them have called to thank me for it! ~:-}

  Gosh, I just re-read this email, and it reads like some kind of infomercial 
Big smile.Guess I like the company, eh???  ~:-}

  Give him a call and form your own opinion,
  God Bless,
  Christiane

  ps.the CS I make is of very good quality.  In fact I am 
nebulizing with some right now (I have bronchitis) and I also use it to put 
directly into my daughters gall bladder through a tube in her 
abdomen...as well as all the normal uses.  Feel free to email me 
with any questions you might have...
- Original Message - 
From: Harry J. J. O'Neill 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:38 AM
Subject: CSHELP!!! I'm Confused!


Hi,

I would surely appreciate help!!!
I have used store bought CS for years and like it.  After my husband 
dropped a brand new $60 bottle of CS this weekend  I decided to look into 
making it myself.  I have been researching it on the net and am now confused 
enough to think about buying it again!

I would like a simple way to make very high quality CS.  Can anyone 
recommend a good generator?  I am not completely averse to making one myself 
(it could turn into a science project in our homeschool), but I don't want to 
be running around to far flung
stores buying supplies and I want to be sure of the quality and not have to 
babysit the 
silver-making process every time.  

Thank you in advance for your time.  - Laura 


CSHELP!!! I'm Confused!!!!!

2001-11-28 Thread Harry J. J. O'Neill
Hi,

I would surely appreciate help!!!
I have used store bought CS for years and like it.  After my husband dropped a 
brand new $60 bottle of CS this weekend  I decided to look into making it 
myself.  I have been researching it on the net and am now confused enough to 
think about buying it again!

I would like a simple way to make very high quality CS.  Can anyone recommend a 
good generator?  I am not completely averse to making one myself (it could turn 
into a science project in our homeschool), but I don't want to be running 
around to far flung
stores buying supplies and I want to be sure of the quality and not have to 
babysit the 
silver-making process every time.  

Thank you in advance for your time.  - Laura