Re: CSHas anyone treated birds with CS?
Try a table spoon per 8oz of bragg apple cider vinegar in her water. If she will not drink it back off to a teaspoon per 8oz of water. My avian vet actually suggested this as it can sometimes cure intestinal bacterial infections as well and can sometimes help cure sinus infections in humans. Putting a drop of saline solution in each nostril a few times a day may help too. Apple cider vinegar is often used in organic chicken operations since they cannot use antibiotics. Jennifer From: 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com To: Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 9:16 PM Subject: CSHas anyone treated birds with CS? I have a pet chicken who has the sneezes. Only had birds for the past few years so never encountered any sickness before this. Chickita is definitly not a happy little camper. I can't locate any antibiotics until Tues so I have to make do until then. Has anyone else ever treated birds before? Thanks for any help. Tara -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHas anyone treated birds with CS?
Sorry forgot paste link so you know the type of ACV to look for. Natural food stores and sometimes larger grocery stores will carry this brand. You must get real apple cider vinegar with the mother, not the other stuff grocery stores sometimes sell... http://bragg.com/products/bragg-organic-apple-cider-vinegar.html Jennifer From: 123 456 whiteol...@gmail.com To: Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2013 9:16 PM Subject: CSHas anyone treated birds with CS? I have a pet chicken who has the sneezes. Only had birds for the past few years so never encountered any sickness before this. Chickita is definitly not a happy little camper. I can't locate any antibiotics until Tues so I have to make do until then. Has anyone else ever treated birds before? Thanks for any help. Tara -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSnew member intro
Please unsubscribe me from this list ... many thanks everyone. From: asif nathekar asifnathe...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2013, 14:49 Subject: Re: CSnew member intro Correct although some resin type filters are tweaked to remove some fluoride But for the best results it's RO or distillation in terms of cost and speed RO wins every time for drinking purposes. On 24 Mar 2013, at 14:45, sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com wrote: finplan65 wrote: Can someone please recommend a shower filter to filter not only the chlorine but also the flouride and other undesirable elements? To the best of my current knowledge there is no filter that will remove fluoride. To get rid of fluoride takes distillation or reverse osmosis. Someone correct me if I am wrong. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
CSsilver and fish tuberculosis
My wildtype population of livebearing freshwater fish has a bacterial infection caused by either Nocardia bacteria or Mycobacteria (fish tuberculosis). This has been confirmed by an aquatic veterinarian. Because these bacteria are very difficult to eliminate as well as zoonotic (can transfer to people) I want to try treating with silver before giving up entirely or culling the population as I really like them and there is no guarantee that my original source is not infected as well. I will test on a few fish in fishbowls but then I will have to treat my planted 45 gallon because if I don't, the fish may get the bacteria again once put back. I know that the silver might wipe out my biological filtration but am not sure if a lower concentration would be successful in killing this bacteria...it is internal and even penetrates the eggs of the fish which means some babies are already born infected. Essentially I am looking for any feedback from people who have successfully treated freshwater fish diseases using silver and if possible dosage/pm ratio. I have a decent generator so it is reasonable to assume the resulting silver water will be of fairly small particle (silver gen sg6) to attack pathogens if I do not accidentally overdose the fish. Also, does anyone know what ppm setting the silvergen 6 in the middle will result in? I do have the hannah PWT meter but am unsure if I still have calibration solution and it has been a few years since I used it or the generator (had to order new electrodes). Thanks, Jennifer
Re: CSnatural calcium
You could also try some edible clay. You don't need to take much. A rounded teaspoon is a typical dose. This is the type I am using but there are others: http://terramin.com/ Jennifer --- Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: Most of my friends use organic Rice Dream enriched. We all seem to tolerate it pretty well. It is interesting that so many of us have gone to using that, even though we haven't specifically talked about it or anything. I also can't use milk from animals, due to allergy. Greens are a good souce of all kinds of minerals in general, also calcium. Kathryn On Feb 7, 2008, at 11:21 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Clayton Family, I know there has been this discussion before but I found out that I am intolerant to milk, what is the alternative for natural calcium?? I have looked up on the net for foods high in Calcium but they are soy products, any suggestions??? I would have looked this up on curezone etc.(other groups) but I have been in this group since 2000 and it has helped me so very much. This group is the greatest!!! Any information on natural calcium rather than pills. Thanks in advance Mary -- Original message from Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com: -- I know many many life long vegetarians, many of them do use milk products. They are very healthy. On Feb 7, 2008, at 9:19 AM, sol wrote: Get back to me when you have been a vegetarian for 20 or 30 years. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
CSPau D'arco for skin spots
A few months back someone on this list suggested using Pau D'arco tincture topically for skin discolorations. Well I have been using it with some success and I will continue and see if the whole spot doesn't disappear. Anyway, what I was wondering is if this person could email me some links or places to find info on this use of Pau D'arco or let me know how you heard about it. I apologize for not remembering who gave me this info. Thanks much, Jenn Popp jenp...@rogers.com Toronto, Ontario (Canada) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS successes - was sunburn
I'm a new user to CS. When I first heard about it, it was from that site of the 'grey' woman. I was alarmed and thought of the stuff as dangerous. But CS kept coming up on other lists and I figured I didn't have the whole picture. Then I was in Florida visiting my mom and found a little pamphlet Colloidal Silver: The Natural Antibiotic Alternative by Zane Baranowski, CN. I'd mentioned before about using it on my itchy scalp with great success. Well now one of my dogs had an eye 'thing' going on that I had self dx as Cherry Eye (here's a link describing it further http://www.eyevet.info/cherry.html). I discussed the dx with a couple of dog friends (one into natural rearing for 15 years and one worked in a vet clinic). They suggested Cherry Eye as well. Oh crap -- I was not happy. Some of the sites I'd visited on CE discussed surgery. I don't know what led me to the CS, but I made a CS solution of CS/RO water/sea salt. And after three applications his eye was back to normal!! Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca Toronto, Ontario (Canada) 416-264-1313 / email: i...@healthy-paws.ca -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS/sunburn
You know what, I have an u-g-l-y mole beside my eyebrow. I will experiment topical application of CS (10ppm) and report the results. I will take a digital before photo as well for physical proof of results. Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca Toronto, Ontario (Canada) 416-264-1313 / email: i...@healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: Sylvia Daniels sdanie...@kc.rr.com | Some moles even got red and swelled up and disappeared. | The past few days I have been putting CS directly on my face. | I'm using 10ppm CS. There have been posts about CS helping | damaged tissue heal faster. I will be looking for changes. | | Anyone have similar experiences or can you share your symptom d'jour, -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS Distilled water
Larry, I've posted the question to a list with a high percentage of European dwellers and the list owner lives in Scotland. I'll let you know what the response is. Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca Toronto, Ontario (Canada) 416-264-1313 / email: i...@healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: larry tankersley | Dear list... does anyone know if this is true. Did you know that | every bottle of reverse osmosis, -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS/sunburn
Oh, me too. My husband and I both were over exposed one year. I cut an aloe plant and applied before bed, he did not. I was pain free (and not pink) the next day while he still suffered. Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca Toronto, Ontario (Canada) 416-264-1313 / email: i...@healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: John Reeder | Aloe Vera works very well. In my yard, I keep a very | healthy Aloe Vera plant, just for burns. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: crash landing
Re: CSFw: crash landingOh shoot, now that was funny. And it may have offended some flight attendants :-(( Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca Toronto, Ontario (Canada) 416-264-1313 / email: i...@healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton Here is another airline joke. And from the pilot during his welcome message: Delta airlines is pleased to have some of the best flight attendants in the industry. Unfortunately, none of them is on this flight!
Re: CSOT Ridiculous Statements
Well, probably using the word ridiculous is what makes that statement offensive. But what Catherine says is a true statement. I'm not sure why you'd take issue with it, other than the word ridiculous. And most often, the exceedingly smart ones have very little common sense. Nothing wrong with that. Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca Toronto, Ontario (Canada) 416-264-1313 / email: i...@healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: larry tankersley | I'm so glad we have self or otherwise proclaimed experts on | the list making declarative statements on what IS ridiculous etc. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT Ridiculous Statement
Good post, Larry. Thanks. Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca Toronto, Ontario (Canada) 416-264-1313 / email: i...@healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: larry tankersley la...@webtv.net | I'm also glad there are those able to help me know what's | TRUE..as in. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFw: crash landing
That isn't even funny. Please don't feel the need to send jokes to lists. If you feel the need to pass along jokes, send them to your friends and relatives. I can't even believe you thought that was funny enough to pass along to anyone. Jenn Popp - Original Message - From: MARIANO DELISE The pilot came across the intercom and said Folks we are experiencing major difficulties and we need to prepare for a crash landing. ...
Re: CSscalp problems itching
I had a couple of stops on my scalp that were EXTREMELY itchy. I had tried everything to get rid of whatever was there (never had a dx), from Neem, Tea Tree Oil, Scalpicin, everything. Then I was in Florida and bought a bottle of CS. I applied some to the spots one night. Nothing. I was expecting instantaneous results. I applied on day two and waited. And now I can tell you, I've never had to do another thing. Completely gone after two applications. I don't know if it will work for you but it's worth a try. You hadn't mentioned that you've used CS on the spot yet, so I'm assuming you haven't. Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: Maxine Wilton I wash my hair and head and still it itches. I have brushed etc and put camph pheneqie on spots. I also am loosing some hair in front on sides and top..
Re: CS3r batch of cs
I believe there would be different qualities of bone meal. Anything manufactured for livestock consumption would be simply from a rendered product. And I believe bone meal for the garden is of the same variety. The bone meal for human consumption and some products for our companion animals is a much purer, cleaner source of bone meal. Not only is source important, but it is important to note that mad cow disease is from cows eating cows. Which, of course, is highly inappropriate in nature. Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: Jonathan B. Britten | Based on my reading, I would recommend extreme caution in using bone | meal for ANYTHING, including garden fertilizer. | | Bone meal was implicated in the mad-cow disease, and the bone meal | itself may have some connection to this and to other prion disorders | including CJD.. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSNewcomers and flaming wars (for Liz)
Hey Liz, I think I've read your posts on K9Health. Peaches is new to your house right?? Good on you for the wellness check on your signature line. I think those of us who feed raw should be suggesting that more often to everyone. Do you mind if I incorporate that in my signature line as well? And no, this sort of stuff doesn't go on often on this list. I find these people quite entertaining as well as knowledgeable. No worries, they are usually a good bunch. Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: songbirdizzy So, as a newcomer, if I'm wrong I'm going to get flamed like this? No, thanks. Where I come from, people treat one another with respect--especially newcomers to our list. In my opinion, a list for informational purposes should gently educate, not lambast the uninitiated with your knowledge. Liz Slater K9Kidney Foundation Pickles Peaches, Angels Mousse, Ginger Cookie Has your dog had a wellness check lately?
Re: CSRegarding botulism
that is just way too good, Chuck!! Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com | Time for a lite lesson on list behavior again... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CStest, please ignore...
Ya, I agree Marshalee. Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: Marshalee Hallett | I love this guy!! (reffering to M. Devour) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSTD's was CSzapper
I've taught my kids to dip their condoms in CS before use. I've read studies that this is effective ;-). Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca | I Anderson i...@win.co.nz wrote: | What sort of logic is that? | | -Original Message- | From: Joyce Inouye | Sex is an easy way to get cancer germs and parasites into your | body. About ten (10) HIV viruses can fit the diameter of the | average hole in a condom. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSpsoriasis
Psoriasis is indeed an indication of a poorly functioning immune system. I'd imagine CS applied topically would do wonders for the discomfort of psoriasis. And taken internally would probably balance out the intestinal flora. But proper nutrition and some immune system boosting (with maybe Moducare) is what's required for the long haul. And I stress the proper diet strongly. A body can't fend off all of today's ills when it's busy trying to work off of the crap people are eating these days. You might suggest a Naturopath to get this person on a long term plan. Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: sylvie hargraft | A friend of mine as a pretty bad case of psoriasis. Being an immune system | disorder, I do not understand the claim that cs is helping this condition. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdmso
Why don't you email them and ask them why? Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: sylvie hargraft | Hmm... they say: not available into canada on their site. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSdmso
Damned drag. Now I know what I have to smuggle back when I visit my mom in Florida :-)) Thanks Catherine, for clarifying that. Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: Catherine Creel | Canada allows up to 70% pure DMSO. The | DMSO at dmso.com is 99% pure. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSon reducing blood pressure
Duncan, can I forward this info to someone suffering from high blood pressure and not on this list? It's my mom and she's just starting to investigate taking control of this issue through nutrition and natural means. BTW I just got a Linus Pauling book from the library for a significant read this weekend. I can't wait :-) Thanks in advance, Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: Duncan Crow | To lower blood pressure naturally you can use amino acids l-lysine and | l-proline with hi-dose vitamin C, Linus Pauling style. He advocated | b-complex (take it with folate) as well. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CS the OT list brouhaha
That's down-right funny! Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: TJ Garland | I crossed swords with Greg a couple month's ago. He is a very immature, | deranged, flaming faggot. It's like trying to debate a mad dog. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSAlternative treatments
Geez, you're on a roll today :-)) Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: TJ Garland Of course, now, I hope it returns with twice the pain. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSome info please?
Melatonin is a sleep regulator hormone and would work better for insomnia. Check your local health food store. I thought I remember some liver toxicity issues with extended or excessive use of L-Tryptophan, am I remembering correctly. This was back in the late 80's. Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: Kevin Nolan | In reference to using L-Tryptophan for insomnia: on the few | occasions I have tried it, the result was violent nightmares. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFW: [CSCats-Dogs] VETMED moderator
FW: [CSCats-Dogs] VETMED moderatorWhat an ego trip that is. I'm sorry for your troubles. Some people have WAY too much time on their hands :0) Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: Connie I'm quite appalled at this and very unsettled. This person moderates every post that goes into that forum, everyone...they are not posted until she approves.
FDA Attack of product names that imply theraputic use
Dave Hartley Still-Point Healing Services Web Page: http://www.ioa.com/home/davehart -Original Message- From: planetn...@aol.com [SMTP:planetn...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, June 12, 1998 12:04 PM To: thel...@ix.netcom.com Subject:FDA attack of product names that imply a therapeutic use John Hammel (j...@iahf.com) sent to PLANETNEWS: IAHF Distribution List USA: WE ARE UNDER ATTACK!!! At the end of this front page NY Times article I have enclosed a form letter for use in deluging the FDA during their comments period on the proposed rule which would seriously limit structure function claims, as well as attack product names that imply a therapeutic use. ***TO DO: Download this NY Times article and my letter to your word processor and print them out. Deliver copies to all the health food stores in your area with instructions for them to bagstuff them. ***We MUST bury FDA with comments by the end of the deadline on August 27! Forward this to more people. Anyone can be on the iahf email list by sending email with the word add in the subject line. June 10, 1998, Wednesday FRONT PAGE: NEW YORK TIMES Section: National Desk DRUG REGULATORS MAKE PUSH TO REIGN IN HERBAL REMEDIES By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG Here at the base of the Rocky Mountains, in a region that is the heart of the nation's herbal and vitamin industry, a stainless steel contraption was hard at work on a recent morning, spitting out clear plastic capsules at the rate of 90,000 an hour. Each contained precisely 600 milligrams of a fine, brick-colored powder that Federal health officials are trying to ban. The powder, a pulverized strain of rice fermented with red yeast, is imported from China, where it has been consumed for 2,000 years, as an herbal remedy (it is thought to improve blood flow) and a food (it spices up tofu and makes a tasty marinade for duck and pork.) Then five years ago, William McGlashan Jr., a young California venture capitalist, learned that scientists in Beijing were studying red yeast rice for another reason: it seemed to lower cholesterol. Today, Pharmanex, Mr. McGlashan's company, sells the encapsulated red powder under the trade name Cholestin in 37,000 American stores,from health food outlets to the giant Wal-Mart chain. Mr. McGlashan calls Cholestin a dietary supplement. Officials at the Food and Drug Administration call it something else: an illegal, unapproved drug. On June 15, in the gray stone Federal courthouse in Salt Lake City, United States District Judge Dale A. Kimball will be asked to determine who is correct. The case is being watched as a pivotal battle between the agency, which is chafing at a 1994 law that left it almost powerless to regulate vitamins and herbal products, and the dietary supplement industry, which has been growing wildly since the law was passed. At issue is not whether Cholestin is dangerous; no one argues that it is. Rather, the agency contends that Cholestin has crossed the increasingly murky boundary that separates dietary supplements from drugs, because it contains an ingredient, lovastatin, that is the key component of a cholesterol-lowering drug. Pharmanex says the lovastatin occurs naturally in the rice and that Cholestin is more akin to a food than to a drug. The outcome of the case could be reflected in the medicine and kitchen cabinets of millions of American consumers, including many doctors and scientists, who have come to believe that ginkgo, echinacea and St. John's wort, among other natural remedies, are as important to good health as aspirin and antibiotics. Aside from the turf battle between the supplement industry and regulators, the dispute raises crucial questions: Is there a distinction between these herbal products, which may contain naturally occurring chemicals as potent as those in any drug, and the drugs themselves? Must products like Cholestin be subjected to the rigorous testing that drugs undergo? You see more and more dietary supplements sold right next to duct and it is now trying to ban Cholestin. Agency officials say the 1994 law, restrictive though it is, gives them the authority to take Cholestin off the market, because it bars companies from bringing dietary supplements to market if they contain the same active ingredients as previously approved drugs. In passing the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act, Mr. Schultz says, Congress did not intend for companies to skirt the drug-approval process by selling medicines under the guise of dietary supplements. Lawyers for Pharmanex, however, contend that Cholestin falls squarely within the intent of the 1994 law. This product was specifically developed to be a dietary supplement, said Daniel Kracov, a company lawyer. What the F.D.A. objects to is the fact that this product has a drug substance in it, in their view. You may object to that, but our response is: If you don't have a safety issue,don't go after these products. Whatever the outcome, Dr. David A. Kessler, the former
Angiodema / Chronic Hives
Hello! It's me again asking on behalf of my sister, who tried everything that was suggested the last time I asked, and we temporaily thought that it had turned out to be a laundry ball. It temporarily ceased, and then 2 weeks later returned with a vengence. She has severe hives, and angiodema (severe swelling) . My other sister says she really looks almost deformed, when it is on her face. It moves around a lot. She uses no cosmetics, no perfumes, no detergents , has tested everything with Kinesiology, and has gone through all kinds of expensive doctors of all types. This is really a problem, as she is a paralegal, and has to be alert on her job, which now, on bad days, the doctors have resorted to giving her drugs which make her sleepy. We all know that these have side effects that make one further toxic. Does anyone have ANY ideas ? Please? She resides in the Denver area. Thankyou in advance, Health, Hope, Joy Healing : May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers Jennifer -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
Help requested with device and instructions
Hello! I have been writing back and forth to a doctor, then to the patient and relaying the effectiveness of Rife and Colloidal Silver. They are desparate as it is NOT responding to drugs, and they need help. Does anyone have the actual step by step intructions for making the Colloidal Silver Generator that I am describing, that I might forward to her? Also, does anyone have a Rife device that they might be willing to demo for this couple in the Westchester County, NY area? The below is the doctor's request, then the patient's wife's responces to my reply. They are open to your help, and are actively seeking it. Thankyou in advance, Jennifer 37 yo male, 3 wk s/p knee tendon repair incurred a staph infecion. Re-hospitalized for draining, IV vancomycin 1.5gm/300ml started plus oral levaguin. Knee draining stopped, drain removed. Re-hospitaled yesterday for a fever, knee drained again, infection still present, heparin drain inserted. He will be coming home to wife and 9 mo old daughter tommorrow, hopefully. He started acidophilus shortly after started on antibiotics. He is slender, now has anemia and will be on bed rest. They are in Westchester Co, NY. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Jodi: I am not sure what a homiopathic person would prescribe, as I went to a lady who was not a true homopath, but worked with it and other energy medicine. She came me some strong X200 Staph remedy's. It took a couple weeks, but it went away with out drugs. This would in my opinion be your best bet, as it works on a Molecular level, and can change things very deep. As expensive as Colloidal Silver is, one can make a device pretty cheaply. 3 9V batteries, wired in series, one grain of wheat type light bulb, some allegator clips, and some Jeweler's Silver . grade, not sterling, and you bout have what you need. Radio Shack sells all the parts, and for around $40. you can build one. This works great on all ear, sinus, and other infections, as well as boosting the Immune system quickly. Hope this helps. Please keep in touch, and let me know how your husband does. OK? Jennifer jcarlso...@aol.com wrote: -- Health, Hope, Joy Healing : May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers Jennifer -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the subject: line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
