Re: CS>topic of being hot was/now thyroid-adrenals
This is very true. What is more, if you have any kind of fungal infection, the steroids will cause the mold to grow out of control, and boy you really don't want that. Bioset makes some supportive herb and enzyme supplements that made a big difference for me, they don't cause any harm either, and can help a great deal. They also have a line of vegan products, which suits me. I had all those symptoms but they were caused by mold overgrowth inside my body- after the antifungals, supplements and probiotics to fix it, all those bothersome temperature symptoms went away by themselves. Kathryn -- I've been treating my thyroid (self treating) for almost 2-1/2 years now. The group Sol mentions below was a life-saver for me and I still recommend it, but there is one thing I would say differently from them. You should be very, very careful about treating your adrenals. The standard medical treatment for it is hydrocortisone, also recommended by What most people don't realize is that 'treating your thyroid alone', ultimately repairs your adrenals. If you feel you need additional support, there are alternative adrenal treatments that are not addicting and will help without doing any damage. Raw adrenal extracts or even a short term of pharmaceutical grade pregnenolone for instance. Both of which are over the counter or on the internet. I used pregnenolone and it seemed to do the trick for me. Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Re: Vitamin C and Salt Protocol warning - liver function
Dear Duncan, I also would like a copy of the article: clay...@skypoint.com Thank you very much. Kathryn Duncan Crow wrote: > I have a liver function article scanned in from a book by a Great > Smokies Labs founder; email me (anyone) for it and start to > balance and support your liver's detoxification function and your > immune system properly. > > I think the only thing the article got wrong was mentioning oral > glutathione as a supplement, which doesn't work, and mentioning n- > acetylcysteine as the alternative for glutathione increase > although it is rapidly hydrolysed into free cysteine, a toxin, so > is only marginally useful in an emergency. Undenatured whey, > selenium and lipoic acid are useful glutathione promoters but I > don't recall them being mentioned together. Don't get soaked. Take a quick peak at the forecast with the Yahoo! Search weather shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#loc_weather -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>GENERAL COMMENT: Marine Kelps (seaweed)/ kelp
Forwarded Message Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 18:10:29 -0500 From: parj...@bellsouth.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>GENERAL COMMENT: Marine Kelps (seaweed)/ kelp How about if someone is allergic to seafood such as lobster, shrimp etc, any thoughts on that? Jacques Well, yes, I was told as a child not to eat any seafood, but I could eat seaweed, that was ok, it was the only seafood I could eat. It seems that crustaceans and shellfish actually have histamine in them and can cause severe allergic symptoms in many people. Some people that are sensitive to molds or candida find that they do better when they stay away from algaes such as kelp as well. K. Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>athlete's foot
Hi, Rex, Yes I mean one application did it for my husband, and I put it on full strength. If that is too strong for you, you could dilute it a little. I also sprayed it around the yard on various rotting tree stumps that were stinking and *really* bothering my allergies, and it knocked all that fungus down too, but that came back. I'll start spraying them again in the spring Kathryn - Thu, 21 Dec 2006 13:12:14 -0600 From: "xer" To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>athlete's foot Hello, I am very interested in this, when you say cured, do you mean that the vinegar was used on one occasion(maybe for a week each day) and then after that the athletes foot never came back after a long time? Thanks, Rex - Original Message - From: "bs clayton" To: Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 11:27 AM Subject: CS>athlete's foot > Barb, > > try using white vinegar on a cotton ball. This has > cured my husbands very bad case, and I heard it from > other people using it. WHite vinegar is an excellent > topical antifungal. > > You can also use CS, if you have any- I have not tried > it for that, but it should work. > > Kathryn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>athlete's foot
Barb, try using white vinegar on a cotton ball. This has cured my husbands very bad case, and I heard it from other people using it. WHite vinegar is an excellent topical antifungal. You can also use CS, if you have any- I have not tried it for that, but it should work. Kathryn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>re: my batch
I pickle jar it is! I just happened to find one empty in the fridge last night, so that's on for my next batch. Thanks. Kathryn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>RE: floaters in the eyes
I find curcumin to be cited as giving yellow color to Turmeric. So it's turmuric you need to be taking, not ginger... Now I found a site listing curcumin in ginger, but there is a heck of a lot more in turmuric. Just thought it was worth a mention. BTW, I am saving your post to my remedies file, thanks. Kathryn _ Curcumin Treating eye disorders Curcumin is apparently more than your typical kitchen spice. It's the substance that gives ginger its yellowish colour, and it has been implicated in the treatment of certain eye diseases and conditions. One of those is known as chronic anterior UVEITIS (CAU), an inflammatory condition of the __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>question on my new batch
Thanks, Dan, That is why I am using a potentiometer instead of a diode, so I can play with the current. I am trying to keep my messing around to just 1 or 2 variables at a time, mostly one, so I can see what happens when I change it. I started out using 4 9V batteries, with no current limiter, and was unsatisfied with the results. I had to watch it carefully, which was fine, but then I decided it would be better to not have the yellow stream of particles floating towards the electrode- to keep it smaller, that is. It does look very cool, though. I appreciate your explanation. Kathryn __ If you have current limiting, then the current cannot go above this set value. If you limit the current to a very small amount, it will take longer to get a particular concentration (ppm) of CS for a particular size container, compared to a batch made with a higher current limit setting. The higher the current limit setting, the longer it will take for the reaction to reach the point of the current limit. This is the reason for increasing the voltage, one reason for increasing the electrode area, and the reason for moving the electrodes closer together. Any one of these three changes will make the initial current higher and therefore the cell will reach the current limit point faster. After reaching the current limit point, it will not be able to go any faster. With very low currents like .2 and .3 ma, with the types of electrodes and spacing we usually use, the current level is reached very quickly and there is no way to decrease the amount of time it takes to make the CS without increasing the current limit value. The best way to make the process go faster is to do any or all of these things but especially to increase the current limit setting. You can also spike the initial distilled water with previously made CS as well. The electrode surface area determines how high a value you might want to use for a current limit. Generally your stirring method will relate to how high a current level you will want to use. With really good stirring, you can use much higher currents. Any one of these methods involve certain tradeoffs. Dan bs clayton wrote: > Thanks for the reply. I was making a quart, and the > current varied a little bit between .2 and .3, it > seems to me the average was .23mA- I can't find my > production not __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>question on my new batch
Dear Sam, Thanks, that does help. Thermal stirring is the only game in this house at the moment. I kinda like to do things myself, and this is better than nothing. Maybe it will work better with the electrodes spaced a little farther apart. It is nice to get the info about how many square inches I have submerged, I had not figured that out yet. Thanks for the offer of the Faraday calculator, but I am not set up for excel, I am running a standard imac with only the mac software for now. I can do the calcs fine, though, it is a simple formula when the current stays constant. ___ Hi Kathryn The first batch was OK but you didn't run it long enough. I would estimate 24-30 hours using .23 mA per quart with electrode spacing at 2 inches. Using 1 mA would take 6-8 hours (estimated) Thermal stirring doesn't work well with quart batches unless its a short fat jar, the stirring action is only good for 4-5 inches upward. Although It might work well with low current and electrode spacing of 2 inches. Most of my experimentation has been done with electrode spacing of 1.5 inches or less. 10.5 inches of 10 gauge wire is about 3 square inches of total electrode so your safe up to 1.5-2 mA of current if you want to go that high but I suspect you will need a better stirrer or a short glass like a pint jar. You could bend your electrodes in a u shape to fit the height or the jar if needed. Tyndall effect shows particles, not ions. Most lvdc generators produce 80-85% ions and the rest particles. If your using a laser to show Tyndall effect you want to see a smooth Tyndall effect, not a real grainy looking one with big sparkles with them. More important though is if the cs stays clear after a day or two. If it goes off color like yellow or gray-gold then the particle size has increased. Hope that helps. I have a nice Faraday calculator built into and excel speadsheet if your interested. Sam L. On 12/14/06, bs clayton wrote: Thanks for the reply. I was making a quart, and the current varied a little bit between .2 and .3, it seems to me the average was .23mA- I can't find my production notes, just my calc, and that is what I wrote in the formula. The electrodes are fine silver wire 10 gauge, 5& 1/4 inches submerged, spacing is 2 inches. I am using a Frito bean dip can to hold the light similar to what you described. I think what I'm going to do next is use half of what I made before, and fill it up with distilled water, then crank it up to 1mA, see if it goes faster this time- and what I end up with ppm-wise. I read some discussion of particle size being related to Tyndall effect, and when I started the Tyndall was what I used to tell if it was ok. Now maybe that means the particles are larger? Is there a consensus about whether Tyndall is important in making this stuff? I was trying to keep the particle size down, and the other stuff to a minmum (silver oxides and like that). Kathryn Hi Kathryn. I dont know if this got posted to the list or not so I will repost. Need more info. What size batch are we taking about? What was the current .2-,3 or ,275 mA? What are you using for Electrodes and what size. Whats the spacing on the electrodes. At .275 mA I would run the batch 24 hours per quart with electrode spacing of 1.5 inch's using a total of 12 inch's of 12 gauge wire (6 inch's per electrode).. If you take a peanut can , drill a one inch hole in the top center and a one inch hole in the side, put the light bulb in the hole in the side and the cs on top, this will work good on a short glass jar. The thermal stirring wont go above 5 inch's or so. The batches I make = 50 ppm or so on the Faraday calculations but some of the silver is left on the electrodes or on the glass container. The cs stays clear most of the time. Faraday calculations work but their are many of other factors involved to produce a good CS. Stirring is very important as is current control per sq inch of electrodes. Ode from silver puppy sells a magnetic stirrer of which has solved many of my problems, I have used very low current before with somewhat good results. I prefer to use 1 mA of current per 12 inch's of 12 or 14 gauge wire or .5mA per square inch of total wet electrodes. Hope this helps. Sam L. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>question on my new batch
Thanks for the reply. I was making a quart, and the current varied a little bit between .2 and .3, it seems to me the average was .23mA- I can't find my production notes, just my calc, and that is what I wrote in the formula. The electrodes are fine silver wire 10 gauge, 5& 1/4 inches submerged, spacing is 2 inches. I am using a Frito bean dip can to hold the light similar to what you described. I think what I'm going to do next is use half of what I made before, and fill it up with distilled water, then crank it up to 1mA, see if it goes faster this time- and what I end up with ppm-wise. I read some discussion of particle size being related to Tyndall effect, and when I started the Tyndall was what I used to tell if it was ok. Now maybe that means the particles are larger? Is there a consensus about whether Tyndall is important in making this stuff? I was trying to keep the particle size down, and the other stuff to a minmum (silver oxides and like that). Kathryn Hi Kathryn. I dont know if this got posted to the list or not so I will repost. Need more info. What size batch are we taking about? What was the current .2-,3 or ,275 mA? What are you using for Electrodes and what size. Whats the spacing on the electrodes. At .275 mA I would run the batch 24 hours per quart with electrode spacing of 1.5 inch's using a total of 12 inch's of 12 gauge wire (6 inch's per electrode).. If you take a peanut can , drill a one inch hole in the top center and a one inch hole in the side, put the light bulb in the hole in the side and the cs on top, this will work good on a short glass jar. The thermal stirring wont go above 5 inch's or so. The batches I make = 50 ppm or so on the Faraday calculations but some of the silver is left on the electrodes or on the glass container. The cs stays clear most of the time. Faraday calculations work but their are many of other factors involved to produce a good CS. Stirring is very important as is current control per sq inch of electrodes. Ode from silver puppy sells a magnetic stirrer of which has solved many of my problems, I have used very low current before with somewhat good results. I prefer to use 1 mA of current per 12 inch's of 12 or 14 gauge wire or .5mA per square inch of total wet electrodes. Hope this helps. Sam L. On 12/7/06, bs clayton wrote: I am looking for some input on this new batch I did. I changed 2 of the parameters, adding a light bulb under the jar as a thermal stirrer, and I lowered the current to .2-.3 mA. Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>re: bone
Sorry I left out some info- I guess I got too excited. I use a quart jar, The electrodes are 10 gauge fine silver, spacing is 2", with 4&7/8" under water. I used a Fritos bean dip can to put the lite in, and I think it did warm the bottom a little, it should have been enough to set up a slow thermal convection. After 5 hours the electrodes were a little grey, so I wiped them and switched the poles, then shut it off after 9 hours. The current varied slightly between 260 microamps and 300 microamps, so .275 sounds close enough to me for an estimate. Thanks for the advice, kathryn __ Hi Kathryn Need more info. What size batch are we taking about? What was the current .2-,3 or ,275 mA? What are you using for Electrodes and what size. Whats the spacing on the electrodes. At .275 mA I would run the batch 24 hours per quart with electrode spacing of 1.5 inch's using a total of 12 inch's of 12 gauge wire (6 inch's per electrode).. If you take a peanut can , drill a one inch hole in the top center and a one inch hole in the side, put the light bulb in the hole in the side and the cs on top, this will work good on a short glass jar. The thermal stirring wont go above 5 inch's or so. The batches I make = 50 ppm or so on the Faraday calculations but some of the silver is left on the electrodes or on the glass container. The cs stays clear most of the time. Faraday calculations work but their are many of other factors involved to produce a good CS. Stirring is very important as is current control per sq inch of electrodes. Ode from silver puppy sells a magnetic stirrer of which has solved many of my problems, I have used very low current before with somewhat good results. I prefer to use 1 mA of current per 12 inch's of 12 or 14 gauge wire or .5mA per square inch of total wet electrodes. Hope this helps. Sam L. On 12/7/06, bs clayton wrote: I am looking for some input on this new batch I did. I changed 2 of the parameters, adding a light bulb under the jar as a thermal stirrer, and I lowered the current to .2-.3 mA. So I have a 27V battery (3 nines) hooked up in series with a potentiometer and a multimeter, with the jar now sitting atop a clear xmas light bulb, I ran it for 9 hours, wiping the electrodes off once and switching the polarity once, just for kicks. It had a faint Tyndall effect when I turned it off. According to my Faraday calculations, it should be 8.33 ppm. BUT it has no Tyndall effectnow, after sitting overnight, which every other batch I have made has had, but those batches were at 4 mA, not .275 mA. So I am missing my visual cue. Are the calculations real? Is this stuff strong enough to use? By the way, the water was really good, no conductivity at all that I could measure with my ohm meter. And this is my first try with very low current. Kathryn Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index
CS>re: bone
Osiyo Oginali! Hello My Friends! Sorry, I can't. It is anecdotal, from a friend of mine from India (it is a traditional remedy from his home), who healed his daughter after a car accident; also others here have used it and the drs look at the xray and wonder where the break used to be. Curcumin (sp?) is one of the active ingredients that have been studied, but I have not looked it up. __ I have never heard of Turmeric (the spice) healing cartilage and bones. Can you please back this one up with documentation?. I have used Turmeric for many years as an anti-inflammatory for my arthritis. I buy it bulk and put in 'O' size capsules and take two (about 500 mg's) twice daily. It reduces the painful grating and finger trigger effect in my hands. Love Bob Adageyudi Staya Udanvti Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>question on my new batch
I am looking for some input on this new batch I did. I changed 2 of the parameters, adding a light bulb under the jar as a thermal stirrer, and I lowered the current to .2-.3 mA. So I have a 27V battery (3 nines) hooked up in series with a potentiometer and a multimeter, with the jar now sitting atop a clear xmas light bulb, I ran it for 9 hours, wiping the electrodes off once and switching the polarity once, just for kicks. It had a faint Tyndall effect when I turned it off. According to my Faraday calculations, it should be 8.33 ppm. BUT it has no Tyndall effectnow, after sitting overnight, which every other batch I have made has had, but those batches were at 4 mA, not .275 mA. So I am missing my visual cue. Are the calculations real? Is this stuff strong enough to use? By the way, the water was really good, no conductivity at all that I could measure with my ohm meter. And this is my first try with very low current. Kathryn Need a quick answer? Get one in minutes from people who know. Ask your question on www.Answers.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>conductivity meter
I found a Hi PWT meter for 58.00 (on Silvergen) - is that a good price? Some other place I found is charing nearly 100 bucks for the same thing. I could not find this meter on the Hanna Inst website- don't know why that is. there is a very cool one that also checks pH, but I finally decided it would be too much of a hassle to get all the calibration solutions and fuss around with it, when pH paper is easy to get and use. gratefully, Kathryn Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>bone
Turmuric is an effective healer of bones and cartilage. The remedy is to take one teaspoon in a glass of warm whole milk (or 2%) at bedtime. It needs some fat to work. If you don't drink milk, you could try full fat soymilk or something like that. After a couple of weeks, it is hard to tell there was a break. Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: milk substitutes
I also like almond milk on occassion, but mostly I drink Rice Dream. I use soymilk for baking, as the protein in it holds up much better in cakes etc, and I use no eggs or dairy. I really don't like drinking soymilk, but it works in cooking. Kathryn Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Budwig diet revision- inulin
from Wikipedia: Inulin is indigestible by the human enzymes ptyalin and amylase, which are designed to digest starch. As a result, inulin passes through much of the digestive system intact. It is only in the colon that bacteria metabolise inulin, with the release of significant quantities of carbon dioxide and/or methane. Inulin-containing foods can be rather gassy, particularly for those unaccustomed to inulin, and these foods should be consumed in moderation at first. However, given some time, most people can adapt to consuming fairly high levels of inulin without side effects. Inulin is not broken down into simple sugars (monosaccharides) by normal digestion, so it does not elevate blood sugar levels, hence, helping diabetics regulate blood sugar levels. Inulin is also a highly effective prebiotic, stimulating the growth of beneficial probiotic bacteria in the gut. As mentioned, inulin passes through the stomach and duodenum undigested and is highly available to the gut bacterial flora. This contrasts with proprietary probiotic formulations based on yogurt or milk in which the bacteria have to survive very challenging conditions through the gastrointestinal tract before they are able to colonize the gut. Some traditional diets contain up to 20g per day of inulin or oligofructose. Many foods naturally high in inulin or oligofructose, such as chicory, garlic, and leek, have been seen as "stimulants of good health" for centuries (Full study of PubMed 10395609). Inulin can be found in commerically available products such as Fibersure from the Makers of Metamucil. Fibersure is a fiber supplement powder that can be added to foods or beverages without changing the taste or texture. It performs well in cooking and baking applications and can be an easy way to add additional fiber to the diet through foods and drinks. Inulin is also used in medical tests to measure the total amount of extracellular volume and determine the function of the kidneys ([Reference: MedlinePlus Drug Information http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/druginfo/uspdi/202300.html]) Natural sources of inulin Plants that contain high concentrations of inulin include: Dandelion (Taraxacum officinale) Wild Yam (Dioscorea spp.) Jerusalem artichokes (Helianthus tuberosus) Chicory (Cichorium intybus) Jicama (Pachyrhizus erosus) Burdock (Arctium lappa) Onion (Allium cepa) Garlic (Allium sativum) Agave (Agave spp Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>Re: RO CS
Around these parts, the water sold by the co-ops in bulk is nearly all RO water, and this is also true of many bottled waters. However, the primary water quality is important, since, as you point out, the purity of the water is dependent on where they set the machine. Minneapolis water is from the Mississippi, and has many impurities, ranging from Thallium to the more usual halo-chlorides (the side products of chlorination?), and the never discussed radioactivity from the nuclear power plant. Some of these will not come out with filtration entirely, but a good charcoal filter will catch even some radioactive elements- everything seems to stick to activated charcoal. The local water in my town is well water, and has some residual contamination (like many major railroad sites) from creosote that basically has phenols in the water that a chemist told me a good RO filter would take out if I bought one (which I could not afford). I can taste the difference in the various sources of the different co-ops purified water. I believe the mpls water is maybe the worst, but it tastes the best to me! Go figure, personal taste. I keep buying distilled, which is sometimes steam distilled. When I tried to use my filtered tap water (carbon block etc) to make CS, it bubbled up in a hurry- it was pretty funny. Way too many solids to use internally, but maybe I could try it for cleaning the basement or something. I can imagine the Vit E is a good antioxidant, but why the selenium? Kathryn Debbie said, > so would RO water be just as good? < If you cannot find steam distilled water, RO water will work, but your CS will probably not be clear. If you are forced to make/drink cloudy CS, simply add a 50 mcg. tablet (capsule is better) of selenium, plus 400-800 I.U.s of Vit E daily to your diet. If you own your own RO unit, you can set it to maximum filtering (it uses a porous membrane) and it will remove most or possibly all minerals from your water. If you buy the RO water, you are stuck with whatever the vendors set their RO machine at, which is rarely at the same level as steam distillation. Still, I'd rather drink RO CS and take some supplements than go without it. Terry Chamberlin Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>cottage cheese substitute
If it is a sulfurated protien you want, you could try hummos. I find that hummos is very sulferous, and a good protein. Other proteins are mock duck which is made from wheat protein, and is available from chinese groceries. _ Sol, In answer to your question about a cottage cheese substitute 2. Those who are knowledgeable in the mentioned protocol say that when flax seed oil is properly mixed with sulfurated protein (cottage cheese or quark) even people who are lactose intolerant seem to do fine because it is a new compound that acts differently on the system. Peter Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>question on reactions - steroids
I should add that steroids increase fungal growth, and will make any fungal infection worse. And since that is mostly what is in vogue for drs to prescribe these days for asthma, you might imagine that asthma rates would be worse. When I was a child, the drs in my area did not prescribe steroids for this purpose, it was considered irresponsible since they have such a broad action on the body, and it was unknown what other unintended effects they would have. However, what is decided to be in the best interest for the public's health is usually not what is in the best interest of the individual. It is not the same thing. Kathryn Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>question on reactions - Asthma Testimonials
Dear Nancy, Thanks for the link. As far as what I am making, it is reasonably good, my reactions, in my opinion, speak much more to where I have been healthwise. I was homebound with severe lifethreatening allergic reactions that the drs could not figure out for the longest time, so of course, they thought it was in my head since they could not figure it out. Even though it was repeatable, could be stimulated by exposure to offending substances. Turned out to be massive fungal infection, all over the place. A very astute allergist (I had to travel to see him) gave me diflucan, which started me on the road back to health after the most horrible detox. I took it for almost 2 years, maybe 1 year and a half, with periodic check ups to test liver functions and allergic responses. It turns out that Mayo clinic discovered that 98% of all sinus infections are due to fungal organisms. The same guy found that his asthma patients were imporving when on antifungals too. So there is a fungal link with asthma in some people, I am one of them. My current theory is this: I grew up in an area where Valley Fever is endemic. practically everyone is exposed to this growing up and a cerain subset of these end up with asthma. VF is a fungal infection. coccidiomycosis or something like that. I appreciate all the info on this that I can find, thanks. Kathryn _ Kathryn, I can't help but wonder about the quality of your CS. How are you making it? Go to http://www.utopiasilver.com/testimonials/asthma.htm Lots of testimonials about asthma after the explantion of what asthma is etc. Nancy... >I am not able to tolerate using much cs at once, in > addition, I am not able to tolerate the colored cs I > made, only the clear solution, n small amts. > > When I take too much, I have asthma symptoms, when I > take less, I get really thirsty is all. > > Anybody else get rid of asthma or other allergies with > CS? > > I have only found one reference to it, and it was > oblique. > > Kathryn > Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>question on reactions
I am not able to tolerate using much cs at once, in addition, I am not able to tolerate the colored cs I made, only the clear solution, n small amts. When I take too much, I have asthma symptoms, when I take less, I get really thirsty is all. Anybody else get rid of asthma or other allergies with CS? I have only found one reference to it, and it was oblique. Kathryn Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>cs generator questions
Dear Peter, It says 150 on it, but it is 2 x 75 ohm units on top of each other. When I check it with my multimeter, it says 90 ohms each, so it is actually 180 ohms, not 150. However, I buy my parts at a surplus store, so they might not be the top of the line. I have it hooked up to only one part, so it would be a 90 ohm potentiometer (variable resistor). I got a diagram from somewhere on a current controlled set up, and went from that. It called for a 100K potentiometer, which you can adjust to control the current. In the diagram, you just hook it up in series. So that is what I do, and it works fine, I get a much better product, but it takes a little more time, which is fine by me, maybe an extra 30 mintues per quart, max. Kathryn Kathryn, What is the rating of your variable resistor? If I can have that description I can search to find one. Thank you Peter Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>cs generator questions
"Also I know this may be a stupid question but I'd rather sound stupid than remain ignorant. How do I know when the batteries need changing. How long do they last? Many thanks for all the help.Kirsteen" There are no stupid questions. A Voltmeter reads volts, but a multimeter is so much more useful. The batteries last a long time. I don't know how long. I have not run out yet. So if you get a multimeter you can keep track of many parameters of this process, which I like to do. Mine cost about 30 dollars, and can measure Volts, Ohms, and Amperes, among other things. You would want one that can measure amps down to a few milliamps, so you can check your current strength. If you have fun with this, you can get a variable resistor (mine was cheap, under a dollar, I forget how much) in the correct range, and can set it to keep the current under a set level, which you can measure with the multimeter gadget. It just gets attached in series with the wires with the clips on the ends, and if you have the meter hooked up in series also, you can read what is going on. It is really fun. Kathryn Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>site
This is the site I used for instructions: http://www.silvermedicine.org/ there is a wealth of info here, I think the generator instructions are listed under generators. Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $510k for $1,698/mo. Calculate new payment! www.LowerMyBills.com/lre -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>CS generator
This is a reply to the person who was not up to making a unit. That is fine, but it is so easy, it is almost a no brainer to make a simple battery unit. Then it only takes an hour or so to make a liter, you have to watch it the last 20 minutes fairly carefully to see the ions coming off the silver so you can see when to stop. The only part that was harder was getting the fine silver wire, which was readily available, but I had to get it from a jewelry supply store, instead of the corner hardware store. I just thought I would encourage you. Also, someone posted a note saying there are people here on the group that might put one together for you too. Kathryn The all-new Yahoo! Mail beta Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>sinusitis
Au Contraire, I have allergic fungal sinusitis, diagnosed by an official MD, that was treated for years with oral low dose diflucan. That helped enormously. However, I have switched to CS since I have heard of it, and it is working wonders. I put it in an old nose spray bottle, and I spray it in several times a day when I am bothered. It really works well, and clears up my nose in record time. I started with buying sovereign silver, then started making my own with a battery set up. Kathryn Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>monitoring conductivity
Thank you very much for this discussion. I do not have an LED on my set up, just batteries, multimeter, and silver all hooked up with wires. Inspired by this info, I set out to discover what the current is on the various waters. I took a tall narrow vase to use as the container, since it would keep the electrodes covered at the same level. The voltage was constant at 32.7 V DC. First I measured my tap water93.0 mA Walgreens distilled.0.5 Glenwood distilled..0.44 CSnew batch clear...3.0 CS kc's batch..2.3 CS gold4.0 and rising CS gold, cleared with H2O2...3.8 and steady CSold batch clear..3.8 In some of these batches, the current is steady, but in others it is not, it continues to rise by a .01 every second or 2. The new batch of clear CS was brewed for 2 hours, 1 quart, started with 32V dc, had the potentiometer set at about 3.0, but it crept up over time to 3.3 mA. How can I relate this current to conductivity, and to ppm? It is obvious that as the conductivity (and the ppm) rises, so does the current. And I suspect that the rise in current in the gold colored CS is due to the strong nature of the solution. Any ideas what I have made as far as ppm? I don't have excel, so I can't use that handy program online. From what others have posted here, it may be 18ppm, or something like that. Thanks, Kathryn Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>re: definitions
Thanks. Now I get it. It is backwards, in a way. Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>meters
I have a multimeter connected to the electrodes, so I can see things like the voltage dropping, and check the amps, which with the potentiometer I have hooked up in series is around 4.7mA. I graphed the voltage drop for one batch I cooked for 4 hours, and it was a pretty consistent line. With the Pot. hooked up, the brew does not deteriorate much over time, which is how I ended up letting that one batch go for 4 hours for 500ml. No mud, it stayed clear. Is there a snazzy way of telling more about the process and where we are in it with the multimeter? Does this conductivity meter have a name? or a brand? I have seen the Hanna TDS meters online. I want to put it on my Christmas list. Kathryn ___ You can't really use time alone to predict PPM. Only slightly purer water can make a really big difference to get to the same stopping point Best bet is to get a conductivity meter Next best , a PPM/TDS meter Or even just an volt meter [multi meter ] "Some" way to tell where you are in the process. ode Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>definitions
When I was in school, cations were the positively charged ions in a rxn, anions were the negative. Similarly, I thought the cathode was the plus side of the battery, the anode the minus side. So I looked it up in my World Book, and it says, and I quote, "cathode, noun. 1. a negatively charged electrode. In an electrolytic cell or electron tube, electrons flow from the cathode to the anode. The filament in most vacuum tubes is a cathode. 2. the positive terminal of a battery or cell that sends out current. The carbon electrode in a dry cell is the cathode. Also, kathode. " This must mean the same thing, but since I am only now having my coffee, it looks different. To recap, the plus side is the cathode, the electrons stream out from it, and the anode collects them back up, and is the minus side. Is this right? Kathryn Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>sick
One of my family has come down with maybe influenza. Been down for days. I have recently joined the list, have been making my own CS and also taking it as a supplement. Since I have reactions if I take very much at once, I am taking small amounts. I am concerned about giving it to my sick dear one, since he also has the some of the same chronic illness that prevents me from using much. I am encouraging him to use it sublingually by single droppersful. It is not enough. The stuff I am making is clear, with a definate Tyndall effect. I make it in a 450 mL beaker, with distilled water, 3 9v batteries, 2 12guage fine silver wires and a resistor to limit the current to 5 mA. It takes about 1& 1/2 to 2 hours to brew up a batch, and it comes out clean and clear. There is about 4 inches of wire submerged. I don't know how many ppm I am making. Anybody have any advice? Thanks, Kathryn __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
