Re: CStetanus
Tetanus is a bug that forms endospores...endospores can survive boiling water for over 2 hours... Might want to get them immunized. Not sure if CS will work here, or work in time. From: Nick Grant nwgr...@inet.net.nz Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CStetanus Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 19:39:15 +1300 Hi group Can anyone please tell me if CS is effective against Tetanus? None of my children are vaccinated, and I guess the only one I am concerned about is tetanus. The tetanus bacteria do not need oxygen to survive, and from what I understand CS cuts of the oxygen supply to bacteria etc, which is why they die. This wouldn't affect the tetanus germ as it doesn't require oxygen. Have I got this completely wrong and your all rolling about laughing, or does CS actually work against tetanus? Regards Tracy. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue
EXTREMELY good question Marshall... From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSAgent provocateur, was Reversable Blue Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:16:57 -0400 rogalt...@aol.com wrote: Mike: I would like to point out that based on my colloidal silver retention/elimination study there may indeed be NO upper limit to save consumption of colloidal silver. This (albeit preliminary) conclusion is based on doing a silver balance on myself AFTER ingesting 2.3 mg CS/day for several months. What I found was that I was excreting silver just as fast as I was ingesting it, leaving my tissues (hopefully) saturated in colloidal silver so that presumably the CS would be present in any part of my body ready to scavenge any hostile bugs that had the misfortune to pass their way. Roger I may have missed this. What routes of elimination did the silver take, and what was the ratios? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSBeck's protocol
What is the skin effect? Sorry for my ignorance here. Also, I have been thinking about using a zapper, or beck device for my lyme disease. But i have a question about the electical current. Is the current evenly distributed throughout the body. I would think the current would take the path of least resistance. For example, if you placed an elctrode on each wrist, then would not the vast majority of the current travel across the the shoulder and middle back area vs. being tranferred throughout the body? thanks, rob in Memphis. From: ing...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSBeck's protocol Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 22:23:57 EDT he doesnt claim that l dont think..he made it but l am not sure. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSDosage for active infection
Currently I take a quarter cup in the morning and a quarter cup at night. but this is not enough. I plan to up the dose to at least 16oz / day. rob From: Katie Jay kj...@erols.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDosage for active infection Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 15:23:14 -0700 Ron, How much CS do you take a day for lyme? And at what PPM? If I've already asked, forgive me, and answer again :o) Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CS for Fibromyalgia?
Also evidence that Gulf war Illness is due to a mycoplasma infection... rob From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS for Fibromyalgia? Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 11:18:37 -0400 Why don't you inform him the Gulf War Illness is plain old aspertame poisoning, and save him a year of searching? Marshall Quiksassy wrote: I have fibromylgia and the chronic fatigue with it. I recently started taking MSM and I feel so much better. I have alot more energy. I am on a medication wellbutrin which helps with the pain and has let me get some rest. I have read that it is the lack of being able to get deep sleep which causes alot of problems associated with fibromylgia. I am a patient with one of the leading doctors in the country at Georgetown Hospital. He is taking a leave for a year to research the gulf war illnesses. One of the problems is that many people have developed fibromylgia. Good luck - Original Message - From: Janet Lubart To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 14, 2000 2:36 AM Subject: Re: CS for Fibromyalgia? I have seen incredible results with a friend of mine following this program for 6 months or more. This MD. is against herbs and any other form of salycilates. www.guaidoc.com -Original Message- From: Steve Young you...@konnections.com To: Silver List silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Thursday, July 13, 2000 8:59 PM Subject: CS for Fibromyalgia? Perhaps this is a bit off topic. My wife suffers from fibromyalgia and has not found much to relieve the pain except deep muscle massage. Since it is allegedly a connective tissue problem, I don't see how CS would have much positive effect. She takes CS when she has a cold or flu, etc., but not regularly to try to deal with the fibromyalgia. Anyone have experience getting relief using CS? So, since many of you have wide ranging experience with other cures, any suggestions on methods to reduce or cure the effects of fibromyalgia would be greatly appreciated. Thanks,--Steve Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSFisk tank
Too much CS will kill fish...so i have read. rob From: Bob Squires rj...@dialnet.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSFisk tank Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 09:21:30 -0500 Dear Mat; You only need two to four oz. it will kill the fungus and mould and bring the fish to life as never before olderBob Mathias Bage wrote: A friend of mine has a fish tank with a mold problem. The fish and water plants affected. Does anyone know if it's safe to add a large amount of CS to the water? Thanks in advance! Regards, Mathias Bage -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSAny advice on....
Hey all, I have been making my CS glass by glass. This is turning into a laborious process for someone who has Lyme. Can anyone suggest a good generator that makes CS by the gallon? Thanks, rob in memphis From: Henry Reed pj20...@home.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSwanted - sources on how to have an alkaline body Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 19:33:16 -0700 Karen, the white coated tongue is probably caused by an overgrowth of certain bacteria in the digestive system. The foods you mention will help. Apples and their juice taken as the first food of the day, by themselves, and waiting for at least an hour before consuming anything else, will help favorable bacteria flourish. The apple cider vinegar taken 2 tsp.to the glass when eating starches or protein foods will help digestion considerably. This will also help good bacteria grow. I have read the names of the bacteria responsible for the different colors of the coated tongue--some for white, some for pale yellow, some for the darker yellow, and even the dark gray sometimes seen. Don't remember the names though. Multiple digestive enzyme tablets with betaine hydrochloride will make a big difference in her digestion. Also, if she eats anything after 5 or 6 in the evening it should be fresh fruit only. These things will help. Best wishes, pj fernwo...@aol.com wrote: Could anyone suggest good Internet sources on how to maintain an alkaline body with lists of foods in each category. It seems like the posts have been contradictory at times and I would like a better understanding of this. Also, the top of my daughter's tongue looks white. Someone once told me this was because her body was too acidic and she should eat apples, apple juice and apple cider vinegar. Is this true? Thanks in advance for your help! Karen -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSheavy metal
I have to agree with rational thinking. Yes it is good to listen to both sides of an argument, but i do think the editors of quackwatch have a blind love affair with western medicine anthing that does not come from Pfizer or Lilly must be the work of a quack (in their minds) when in fact if one just does the research on some alternative types of medicine they will often find validity into why other forms of therapy work... Why is quackwatch trying to protect us from alternative medicine? I would wager that people who pursue alternative forms of medicine have often researched it in advance and are aware of what traditional medicine has to offer. I would also wager that people who pursue other forms of treatment are better educated than most of the sheep who aimlessly adhere to treatment without getting second opinions and doing research on their own. But yes, it is correct that we should keep an open mind - even if we do not like the source. rob From: rogalt...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSheavy metal Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 07:56:02 EDT In a message dated 7/10/00 7:05:30 PM EST, gotl...@hotmail.com writes: Subj: Re: CSheavy metal Date: 7/10/00 7:05:30 PM EST From: gotl...@hotmail.com (rob gr) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Yes, quackwatch is an infamous site. They are anti anything that does not make a profit for the drug companies. rob From: Pamela Grant pjgr...@northnet.org Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSheavy metal Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:37:59 -0500 http://www.quackwatch.com/index.html * 01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.htmlColloidal Silver (updated 11/5/99) Someone just sent this to me. I don't know what they are saying on this websiteabout colloidal silver, but if they are out to discredit ALL forms of alternative medicine then it is just as well my Netscape fails me. I thought some of you might want to check this out. PG Rob: I wouldn't be so quick to write off QuackWatch posters, just as I wouldn't be so willing to believe everyone who posts here. I saw some interesting QuackWatch discussion of microwave radiation and mercury amalgams, for example. It's much better to hear both sides of a debate, however imperfect the discussion, before making up your own mind even if you have to rely on interpreted or even distorted information. Otherwise, you're faced with digging out all the relevant, and sometimes highly esoteric and technical information yourself, interpreting what you found so that you can reach an independent conclusion. Few of us have such a knowledge base, and/or training to do that beyond our own specialty. In fact, many posters here are simply not specialized in ANY particular area. It is much easier to let the so called experts make their case, and then decide who has the best supporting evidence and logic on his/her side. Tuning in to Quackwatch is helpful in this regard. What are the alternatives? Even using gut feel or intuition should be combined with as much factual information as possible. IMHO, relying solely on your inner voice may simply be a rational for intellectual laziness. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSheavy metal
Yes, quackwatch is an infamous site. They are anti anything that does not make a profit for the drug companies. rob From: Pamela Grant pjgr...@northnet.org Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSheavy metal Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 21:37:59 -0500 http://www.quackwatch.com/index.html * 01QuackeryRelatedTopics/PhonyAds/silverad.htmlColloidal Silver (updated 11/5/99) Someone just sent this to me. I don't know what they are saying on this websiteabout colloidal silver, but if they are out to discredit ALL forms of alternative medicine then it is just as well my Netscape fails me. I thought some of you might want to check this out. PG -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSH2o2
CAN H2o2 be ingested? Does this oxygenate the blood? rob in Memphis From: lfzbiz...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSH2o2 Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 23:34:44 EDT Dear Listers: I am looking for an answer from Judith Thamm, as I have a question about H2o2--I was reading one of her posts where she mentions it, but I need to know more, in order to consider getting some, as I have Lyme disease. One of the things I know the Lyme Spirochete hates and that definitely will kill it, is more oxygen in the blood. Can anyone direct me to Juith Thamm's e-mailaddress, or, if you can, give her mine, so I can e-mailher directly? Thanks, Lynn lfzbiz...@aol.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
CSBeck Unit / Zapper
Can someone explain the difference between a Zapper and a Beck Unit and a Rife Unit and a Hannah Unit etc... Thanks, Rob in Memphis From: Bob Squires rj...@dialnet.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS(no subject) Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 14:53:06 -0500 Thanks Alvin ; It is very satisfying hardly a week goes by that some one does not call with tears in their voice to thank me for their life . It is really better than money . I do tell them to thank God . It is all His doing . He showed me everything. The machines that I make are all solid state printed circuits made from the best parts we can find . The prices for the three different models of silver generators is $35.00 the Zapper $35.00 and the Beck unit $55.00 + $6.00 SH With Gods Love Bob Alvin Rose wrote: Hi Bob I want congratulate you on your extreme effort to bring comfort and healing to people...it must be a great pleasure to know you are helping with this very important thing... Colloidal silver and the blood purifier is an excellent combination anywhere in the world... what a godsend for the people with aids in africa etc...keep up the good work! Alvin Rose Bob Squires wrote: Dear Friends; Two years ago I met a woman missionary from Africa. She had adopted a four year old boy from an i c ward in a hospital. He had no immune system and she was told that he had a rare syndrome that would not let him live beyond 5 yrs. perhaps 7 at the most and that his brain would never develop beyond 10 %.. We met at a missionary conference in Ky. I gave her a Zapper and a colloidal Silver machine. She later told me that when she got home in Harare Zimbabwe. She began treating the child. Almost immediately she said she could see a change taking place in his daily life . A few months later they made a trip across Africa with no malaria medicine or any thing just the zapper and the silver solution. He did all of the normal things that kids do ,fell off bikes and skinned his knees and other places. Before the infection would have caused a deadly problem but now his immune system was working and there was no problem . When she got home she had more tests done and his brain had developed to 40% . I am expecting some more testimonies to arrive soon from Africa. I will post them here when they arrive. So stay tuned. I recently received another story of healing from Honduras in the aftermath of the hurricane. With Gods Love Bob Dear Friends; Two years ago I met a woman missionary from Africa. She had adopted a four year old boy from an i c ward in a hospital. He had no immune system and she was told that he had a rare syndrome that would not let him live beyond 5 yrs. perhaps 7 at the most and that his brain would never develop beyond 10 %.. We met at a missionary conference in Ky. I gave her a Zapper and a colloidal Silver machine. She later told me that when she got home in Harare Zimbabwe. She began treating the child. Almost immediately she said she could see a change taking place in his daily life . A few months later they made a trip across Africa with no malaria medicine or any thing just the zapper and the silver solution. He did all of the normal things that kids do ,fell off bikes and skinned his knees and other places. Before the infection would have caused a deadly problem but now his immune system was working and there was no problem . When she got home she had more tests done and his brain had developed to 40% . I am expecting some more testimonies to arrive soon from Africa. I will post them here when they arrive. So stay tuned. I recently received another story of healing from Honduras in the aftermath of the hurricane. With Gods Love Bob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSUltraviolet blood irradiation
If you are in the early stages then this might be a blessing or a curse. There is a lot of theory behind lyme. I have been working on a Lyme Fact sheet to give to doctors who are Lyme-illiterate, but have not completed it yet. Anyways, Lyme has several protein coats. Unlike some more basic pathogens, lyme can change its protein coat (still don't know if it does it at random or when the environment becomes threatening)This is one reason why the human immune system has such difficulty with Lyme (Bb). The immune system has a difficult time creating a complete antibody response to the different protein coats and it has difficulty producing the amount of each antibody neccessary to manage lyme. In addition Lyme is a very slow infection. Most Antibiotics work by disrupting cell division - so even if lyme and your favorite ABX come in contact with one another Lyme does not automatically die. Some Lyme may go latent for a very long time. For this reason it may be neccessary to keep up the ABX for a very long time. Also the Western Blot done after antibiotic treatment should give you some idea about how strong your antibody response is. There are numerous other interesting tid-bits about Lyme. Dr. Sam Donta has been trying to identify various neurotoxins created by lyme and has recently had success identifying one that is very close in chemical structure to Botox - this would account for why Lyme Patients often have a limb or side of the face go listless and numb. Another reason the immune system has difficulty with Bb is found in a study done by the NIH. It was found in-vitro that Bb actually attacks T and B cells and Kills the very immune cells that are designed to protect the body from infection. I think the report stated that over time, however, the T and B cells were able to adjust. I do think over time the human immune system is able to manage Bb to a point - but the bacteria lives on as a chronic infection - It depends on the individual, the bacterial load, and the strain of the bacteria, along with your stress level, your diet and exercise, etc... as to how well you co-exist with this little critter called Lyme. I do not think CS will eradicate all the lyme but if it can get me back to feeling normal again, i will take a maintenance dose for the rest of my life. EVEN IF IT TURNS ME BLUE :o) Rob in Memphis From: Chris Joyner mayj...@javanet.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUltraviolet blood irradiation Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 05:50:43 -0400 Rob, I am new at this. I have just been diagnosed with Lyme disease. Tell me more. I have very early stages. Thank you. Blessings, Christine - Original Message - From: rob gr gotl...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 1:07 AM Subject: Re: CSUltraviolet blood irradiation Well I think CS has merrit because (in theory) it should be able to penetrate within cells. I however read a post from one woman who said it took 9months before CS put her lyme into remission. Lyme has a very slow division time (similar to Tuberculosis). For this reason, it takes a very long time to treat. I think CS along with a low carb,protein diet; exercise and positive thinking are what it takes to beat lyme... Let me know how you are doing. Rob in Memphis From: Katie Jay kj...@erols.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUltraviolet blood irradiation Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:01:45 -0700 Well, Lyme is an INTRA-cellular infection. Yes it travels in the blood, but it prefers deep tissue and simply treating the blood will not do the trick alone - sorry. rob in Memphis Hi Rob, Do you think CS would be more effective than UBI? Are you saying UBI would be useless? If so, what do you think would be the most effective regime and why. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I really need all the feedback I can get. Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSLyme Disease
How long did it take for the CS to kick in? THanks Rob, in Memphis From: Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLyme Disease Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 07:56:10 -0700 Hi friends, I am new to your sight. I am SEEKING INFO ON Lyme Disease. I understand that you may be able to help me with some alternative routes of treatment. Blessings and many thanks, Chris Dear Chris, Hi! I`m a former Lymie myself, and it was CS that cured me. The antibiotics kept me alive, barely, but now I`m totally well. Do you have Lyme yourself, or someone you know? Do you need directions for making your own CS generator? Let us know what you want to know about CS or Lyme, I ,or someone else here can probably help! Marsha Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOh, just what I needed...
Hope you knock out that bad bug. But this does pose a question. Did you contract the virus while taking CS. If so, does that mean that CS does not provide good systemic protection from pathogens? Rob in Memphis From: Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOh, just what I needed... Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 17:44:40 -0700 Dear Listers, I just found out my wonderful soon-to-be-ex has given me the gift that keeps on giving... I have HPV, or Human Papilloma Virus, an STD, which causes cervical cancer. I do have cell changes in this, the second, Pap smear. I`m gonna shoot some good old CS up there, and see what happens! I`ll keep you all posted... Marsha, still in Vallejo. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSLyme Disease
Yes, it is Hot and Muggy. It is Midnight - i just got in and the digital thermometer at the bank down the street reads 85*F. Hot! From: Marsha Hallett liah...@pacbell.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSLyme Disease Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 17:47:08 -0700 How long did it take for the CS to kick in? THanks Rob, in Memphis Dear Rob, Three days. I first noticed I could shut my jaw for the first time in months. The joints also eased up, and by a week, my mind was clearing and I could speak coherently! What a blessing CS has been! Marsha PS, Is it hot and muggy in Memphis? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSUltraviolet blood irradiation
Well I think CS has merrit because (in theory) it should be able to penetrate within cells. I however read a post from one woman who said it took 9months before CS put her lyme into remission. Lyme has a very slow division time (similar to Tuberculosis). For this reason, it takes a very long time to treat. I think CS along with a low carb,protein diet; exercise and positive thinking are what it takes to beat lyme... Let me know how you are doing. Rob in Memphis From: Katie Jay kj...@erols.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSUltraviolet blood irradiation Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 12:01:45 -0700 Well, Lyme is an INTRA-cellular infection. Yes it travels in the blood, but it prefers deep tissue and simply treating the blood will not do the trick alone - sorry. rob in Memphis Hi Rob, Do you think CS would be more effective than UBI? Are you saying UBI would be useless? If so, what do you think would be the most effective regime and why. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I really need all the feedback I can get. Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSUltraviolet blood irradiation
Well, Lyme is an INTRA-cellular infection. Yes it travels in the blood, but it prefers deep tissue and simply treating the blood will not do the trick alone - sorry. rob in Memphis From: Katie Jay kj...@erols.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSUltraviolet blood irradiation Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:47:53 -0700 The ultraviolet blood irradiation (UBI) was used before antibiotics were invented. It is quite effective in eliminating infection, apparently. It is not covered by insurance and the FDA has not approved it for Lyme treatment. My doctor will have me sign a form stating I am taking the treatment for research purposes. The procedure is as follows: A line is put in to draw blood into a bottle (no more than a pint, probably less) As the blood travels through the tube, it passes over UV light. The UV light kills the bacteria in your blood and the blood becomes irradiated. Then the blood is put back into you (my doctor gives oxygen during this part of the procedure). The blood put back in does bring some benefit to your other blood. My doctor recommended 20 treatments to kill the Lyme; that might be more treatments than some recommend. I'm imagining the doctor may be trying to make some money on this, but I don't mind because the treatment, she says, is as effective as antibiotics without the side effects. I plan to use a zapper, do the UBI treatment and take CS. If that doesn't get the Lyme, I don't know what will :o) Katie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSSpeaking of Soft Drinks
OK Ivan, thanks for the insight! I have a better understanding now... Rob in memphis From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSSpeaking of Soft Drinks Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:20:43 +1200 - Original Message - From: rob gr gotl...@hotmail.com While I agree that cokes and soft drinks are bad news for the body. And I avoid them like the plague. In all fairness, doesn't the body regulate the pH of the Blood? Rob in memphis That is so, Rob. And while the pH of the blood and fluids is nowhere near acid enough to dissolve bone or anything else, no matter how much soft drink is consumed, it is this very regulation that causes the many health problems associated with high acidic intake. In order to maintain the slightly alkaline blood pH of ~7.4 the body needs to somehow neutralise those acids that are in solution. It dose so by reacting the acid with some element or compound which when combined form a neutral compound. This is often achieved by the use of calcium ions which it will pull from bone matrix, which in the long term results in osteoporosis etc. Unfortunately, these now neutral compounds are generally insoluble, and precipitate from the blood and fluids to form plaques, spurs and stones, the double whammy effect. If the blood contains good amounts of sodium and potassium, these will bind to the acid content of the fluids and even displace calcium from plaques etc., and because sodium and potassium compound are generally soluble they are able to be transported to the kidneys and liver and excreted. Hope this helps clear confusion :-) Ivan. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSPoison Ivy
I would think that CS would be effective at preventing a secondary infection that could be brought about by the Poison Ivy... Rob in Memphis From: d.linen li...@flash.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPoison Ivy Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:23:23 -0500 Marilyn Caldwell wrote: Has anyone had any success using CS on poison ivy? I have a friend who has it and I thought that it might at least help with some of the symptoms. Thank you. Marilyn Hi Marilyn, I've had some success with a mixture of CS and MSM for severe itching but not poison ivy. Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSOTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme
Is the Beck 4 step protocol effective against latent or noactive pathogens - as is the case in Lyme Disease? Rob in memphis From: Alvin Rose ar...@nf.sympatico.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:30:29 -0700 Hi Again Pamela it's me again...The magnetic pulser is a magnetic pulse generator which generates a powerful magnetic pulse...The coil acts as the primary winding of a transformer and the body tissue acts as the secondary winding which induces 50 to 100 microamps of current into the location. such as the lymph nodes or diseased organ...this current is harmless to healthy cells This microcurrent disables viruses, bacteria and pathogens in the tissue in the same way that the blood purifier does in the blood... Alvin Pamela Grant wrote: What is the magnetic pulser? PG Hi Marshall With the Beck Devices it's just a matter of not taking toxic substances and treat yourself until you have completely recovered...Problems that are not in the blood takes a little longer and the magnetic pulser is required for lymph node and tumor recovery as you have to treat the areas affected...good magnetic power projection is required for the pulser and colloidal silver to help the immune system. Alvin Marshall Dudley wrote: rob gr wrote: Hey, need some feedback from some Lymies out there. For those trying to come back from later stage lyme... How long before you saw improvement/ remission? also, any one have similar symptoms: burning sensations, inflamation, and muscle spasms before using CS and did this resolve any and/or all of these problems? Finally, did others use CS alone or in conjunction with Antibiotics? thanks, rob in memphis My sister in Memphis who was in the later stages used CS alone, but hit a plateau. She then started using Beck's 4 step protocol and was symptom free in about 2 months. The slowest part was using the magnetic pulsar on the lymph system, there are so many nodes, she would clear it out of one area then move on to another area. By the time she was through, some swelling had returned to the initially treated areas, so this took a look of work to completely clear out. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSOTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme
Was looking at Magnetic Pulser information at: http://216.60.190.54/biology/thumind.htm It says Subjects will feel no physical sensations except for light thumps during this phase of treatment. Exposure levels are considered safe because intensity of this magnetic pulser is much lower than Magnetic Nuclear Resonance Imaging in routine use on tens of thousands of patients. ... I have had two MRI's. So should not I be cured of LYME? Rob in memphis From: dotsie...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:29:29 EDT In a message dated 6/21/00 6:28:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pjgr...@northnet.org writes: What is Beck's 4 step protocol? http://healthtronics.co.nz/aboutbl.htm http://www.sightings.com/health/electrohealth.htm http://www.mrbean.net.au/~wlast/cancerremissions.htm http://www.bettahealth.com.au/beck.html http://leadingedgenews.com/bobbeck.htm http://leadingedgenews.com/bobbeck.htm http://216.60.190.54/biology/thumind.htm http://216.60.190.54/biology/thumcoil.htm http://www.explorepub.com/articles/beck/hiv_article.html Dotsie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
CSHerbal remedies and FDA
Watch out for those Experts!!! Herbal Remedies: Helpful or Harmful? Experts Call for Government Regulation of Alternative Medicines By Liza Jane Maltin WebMD Medical News June 12, 2000 -- Americans are turning more and more often to herbal remedies as a natural alternative to drugs. But before you head off to the health food store for that bottle of St. John's wort or kava kava, you should know that natural does not necessarily mean safer. In fact, evidence is mounting that some of the most popular herbs can have serious side effects. Now, a team of researchers has collected all the information available -- from clinical trial results to FDA warnings to individual physician's reports -- on several of the most widely used herbs, and created a set of guidelines that doctors and patients can use to protect themselves. Their complete report appears in the Spring issue of the Journal of Neuropsychiatry and Clinical Neuroscience. The bottom line is that these herbal medications are purported to be harmless, but that's an incorrect myth. [Reports about individuals] and letters to the editors in various medical journals have documented that these are in fact not harmless, says lead author W. Curt LaFrance Jr., MD, who is with the departments of neurology and psychiatry at Brown University School of Medicine in Providence, R.I. St. John's wort, for example, which can indeed be useful in mild or moderate depression, has now been implicated in heart transplant rejection. Apparently, LaFrance explains, the herb can render anti-rejection drugs ineffective. Kava kava, which has been shown to successfully relieve insomnia and anxiety, can also cause patients on various psychiatric drugs like Valium and Librium to become severely disoriented. And the list of side effects and drug interactions continues to grow. Unlike prescription drugs, which are closely regulated by the FDA, herbal products are considered food and are not required to undergo rigorous animal and human testing before being placed on the market. It is entirely up to the consumer to seek out information before deciding to take an herbal product, but most consumers are not doing the research. And they're not talking to their doctors, either, LaFrance tells WebMD. Although doctors should be making every effort to learn exactly which drugs -- chemical or herbal -- their patients are taking, patients must do their part as well, says LaFrance. People worry that their doctor will scoff at their use of an alternative medicine, he says, so they put themselves at unnecessary risk by not mentioning it. I think there is potential for these herbal medications, so I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water, says LaFrance. But it needs to be cautiously monitored. Herbs may come from a garden rather than a laboratory, but they are bioactive substances with the potential to do good and the potential to harm, he says. The bottom line is that they should be regulated. Watch out for that bottom line... From: d.linen li...@flash.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSNY Board of Health checked my CS/Diane Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:39:55 -0500 samma...@aol.com wrote: I agree - and I don't foresee mainstream medical people getting on board anytime soon - mostly because it seems difficult for them to believe that something inexpensive and wonderfully useful could have been supressed all these years. I think they really believe their science and the industries borne from it have a higher moral fiber than that. Maybe I'm overreacting but I'm just glad Dotsie isn't in deep trouble over this. :( For sure, Samantha. I can't quite imagine how awful it must have been for Dotsie to think her CS caused a problem and having it checked out by the BOH. Diane -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSOTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme
Nope - burning in the legs... From: Scharbach myf...@mwt.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:55:46 -0700 Rob, My main leftover Lyme symptoms are neuro. Tiredness, forgetfulness, short term memory stuff, etc. I didn't have a whole lot of inflamation to begin with. Where are the burning sensations you are getting? Burning feelings on the soles of your feet can be symptomatic of B vitamin definciency. Sparrow Hey, need some feedback from some Lymies out there. For those trying to come back from later stage lyme... How long before you saw improvement/ remission? also, any one have similar symptoms: burning sensations, inflamation, and muscle spasms before using CS and did this resolve any and/or all of these problems? Finally, did others use CS alone or in conjunction with Antibiotics? thanks, rob in memphis From: Scharbach myf...@mwt.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:23:56 -0700 I know James. But so is Lyme.:~( Sometimes, somethings are worth the risk. Sparrow Flagyl is toxic as hell. Read the PDR. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSNY Board of Health checked my CS!!!!
Well, not sure if it is good to give CS to children under the age of two. Is it not true that a small child's immune system actually needs infections in order to build up natural immunity? By giving a baby CS, would this negate the child's own natural defenses later on. I am only speculating here. Any thoughts out there? rob in Memphis From: dotsie...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSNY Board of Health checked my CS Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 22:44:00 EDT Hi, Well, the NY Board of Health checked my Colloidal Silver last Friday. The doctor said to my nephew, do you know that this can turn a person blue (expected typical response). When they ruled out that CS could be the reason for the symptoms that the baby had, they went ahead with the intravenous immune globulin treatment and he responded favorably right away. For anyone who is not familiar with Kawasaki Disease, the treatment must be given within ten days or there is a risk of heart disease - untreated patients develop weak coronary arteries. A caution to parents with small children - an association between exposure to rug shampooing and Kawasaki disease has not been confirmed in recent studies. Kawasaki disease is now the leading cause of acquired heart disease in children in the United States. Rheumatic fever used to be the leading cause of acquired heart disease in children. There is no specific lab test that definitively diagnoses Kawasaki disease. The diagnosis is established by meeting certain criteria. Because of my experience with this whole affair and the fact that this disease seems to be rampant, I would recommend taking precaution when giving colloidal silver to children under the age of two. I believe that it may have masked some of the symptoms that the doctors were looking for before they treated him for the disease. His eyes were clear and there were no enlarged lymph nodes (which I attribute to the CS taken orally and in ears) so they thought he had something else and delayed treatment for a few days. As a matter of fact, the doctor saw him on a Friday and diagnosed an ear infection and when he went to the emergency room on Monday (last week), the ear infection was gone. There was a three month old baby in the crib next to my nephew who was not so lucky - they waited 14 days before treating and he has heart damage already. We will never know how much the colloidal silver would have helped if continued. Thanks to all who offered kind words and support - I really appreciate it. Dotsie -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSOTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme
Hey, need some feedback from some Lymies out there. For those trying to come back from later stage lyme... How long before you saw improvement/ remission? also, any one have similar symptoms: burning sensations, inflamation, and muscle spasms before using CS and did this resolve any and/or all of these problems? Finally, did others use CS alone or in conjunction with Antibiotics? thanks, rob in memphis From: Scharbach myf...@mwt.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSOTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:23:56 -0700 I know James. But so is Lyme.:~( Sometimes, somethings are worth the risk. Sparrow Flagyl is toxic as hell. Read the PDR. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CScyst lyme/babesia,erlichiosis
Yes I have the same question: CS alone or w/ ABX? rob in memphis From: ritz3...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScyst lyme/babesia,erlichiosis Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:34:22 EDT So, have you tried those drugs again or just sticking with CS? Also, know much about babsesia and erlichiosis? Do you know if Cs should work for those also? Thanks, Christy a message dated 6/20/00 2:51:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time, myf...@mwt.net writes: Subj: Re: CSOTMarsha-lymelists,cyst form of lyme Date: 6/20/00 2:51:19 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: myf...@mwt.net (Scharbach) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com There has been some study done on using Flagyl for this reason. It kills the cyst form, but has no effect on the spirochetal stage. It (Flagyl) must be used in combo with Zithromax or tetracyclin,or doxycyclin. Supposedly three months of this combo will take care of the LYme. I tried it. I was well into my 6th week when my heart went nuts. Ended me in ICU. Found out later, this is an extreme herx reaction and will eventually pass, as the Lyme dies off. Yipes!! Sparrow -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
CSRe: Bio-availability with MSM
Someone on the list once posted that they mix their CS with MSM. This sounds like a good concept. I am familiar with the benfits of MSM. Just curious where one might purchase MSM or DSMO in powder form versus the pill form? Thanks, Rob in Memphis From: Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSColloids Ions Bio-availability was Your Last Comments on my HVAC CS we... Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 00:53:03 +1200 Roger, I'm not sure there is much stable at the temp of silver vaporisation. However there is a point at the arc/plasma water interface where the temp is low enough to fix whatever species is found there, 150degC for silver oxide. Ivan. - Original Message - From: rogalt...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, 18 June 2000 00:01 Subject: Re: CSColloids Ions Bio-availability was Your Last Comments on my HVAC CS we... In a message dated 6/17/00 5:50:58 AM EST, i...@win.co.nz writes: When the particles are sputtered by electric arc, not only are silver ions and metallic particles formed, but the atmosphere in which the arc is formed may also undergo chemical change, the products of which may go into solution or react with the silver particles forming silver compounds. (this is not a value judgement). Ivan: Please provide us with examples of silver compounds which a stable at sputtering temperatures. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSColloids Ions Bio-availability was Your Last Comments on my HVAC CS were lost
Well I am no expert on Biochemistry , Biophysics, CS, or anything else for that matter. But i am a pragmatist. If something works and it does not harm you, then keep doing it. I have just begun using CS for my lyme. So the verdict is still out. but I am encouraged by the many genuine testimonials Lyme patients have made re: CS. Like any other treatment for Lyme however, I do not think the results happen over night. rob in memphis From: Pamela Grant pjgr...@northnet.org Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSColloids Ions Bio-availability was Your Last Comments on my HVAC CS were lost Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:25:28 -0500 This implies that silver must be broken into atomic ions in order for chelation to take place, and the loose attraction of small CS aggregates probably promotes this process. Please excuse me as I am new to this list and I am not a scientist, but in reading the above a thought came to mind: what if a plant could be fed high levels of CS, thus allowing the plant to break the silver down into a more usable form by us humans. Would this make sense or am I way off in my sudden ah-ha moment?--afterall the mind of man is inferior to the mind of nature(Dr. Bill Nelson). Anyway, as to the doctor/scientist/inventor mentioned above, I will paraphrase from my notes from one of his seminars: the mineral kingdom has weak bonds and man was not meant to take in minerals, but plants--yes--they take in minerals and create CoValiant bonds which are strong bonds. Since we need higher energy, that is man being quantic in nature and needing quantic energy--- should we not get this through plants? Is this even possible with silver and if so would it still have the effect of being a germicidal? Does any of this make sense or am I way of base here? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSDysbiosis and CS?
OK, in the rat study was the CS administered orally or injected. If it takes 40 ppm to be bacteriostatic then how do so many people report benefit from taking lower PPM orally for lyme? Rob in Memphis From: realw...@webtv.net (Wayne Mosley) Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDysbiosis and CS? Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 15:41:21 -0700 (PDT) I SAW IN A BOOK IF YOU USE VERY DILUTE AMOUNTS OF SILVER IT WON'T HARM THE INTESTINAL FLOURA BUT I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT SUCH SMALL AMOUNTS WOULD DO ANY GOOD EITHER BECAUSE BASED ON SOME STUDIES I SAW IT TAKES 40 PPM AS A BACTERIOSTATIC BUT THATS IN DIRECT CONTACT. THE RATS WERE GIVEN MUCH MUCH HIGHER DOSES LIKE 1500 PPM AND MORE WITH NO TOXIC EFFECTS. I AM AFRAID THAT NOT MANY PEOPLE HERE KNOW THE ANSWER BECAUSE THERE ARE FEW STUDIES AND HARD TO FIND. THE BEST IS FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS SUCESSFULLY DEALT WITH THESE THINGS OF COURSE. THE EPA LEVELS FOR TOXICITY ARE OVER 350 OR 400 PPM BUT THEY DON'T SAY HOW MUCH OF IT. YOU SHOULD CALL THEM. ALSO KEEP TAKING YOUR PROBIOTICS AND IF YOU LET THE SILVER SOAK INTO YOUR MOUTH IT WON'T GET DOWN TO THE INTESTINES.. I THINK. SOMEONE MAY CORRECT ME ON THAT BUT ITS A HUNCH THAT MAKES SENSE. SO ANYHOW ARE YOU AGETTING BETTER YET? HAS IT BEEN A WEEK OR 10 DAYS YET SINCE THE PROTIOTICS? GOOD JOB. ALSO THE STUDY ON THE RATS WAS ONLY FOR 40 DAYS. I'M NOT SHURE ITS A GOOD IDEA TO TAKE IT FOREVER BUT IF YOU HAVE LYME YOU HAVE TO HAVE PRIORITIES AND WITH SUCH LITTLE INFO OUT THERE ON SILVER *IE STUDIES IT CAN BE SCARRY. GOOD LUCK. HOPE SOMEONE HERE CAN GIVE YOU MORE HELP AS IAM NEW HERE ALSO. STAY IN TOUCH WAYNE Text3.html Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDysbiosis and CS?
Good quality yogurt will work as a probiotic (healthy bacteria). Rob in Memphis From: lfzbiz...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDysbiosis and CS? Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:15:24 EDT Well, I for one would LOVE to know what probiotics are...please enlighten this ignorant one. Thank you, Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
CSbionet.molbio.methds-reagnts
Hello one and all. I posted a technical question on a sci.med forum called: bionet.molbio.methds-reagnts and got a few responses... you may want to check them out. My question was how CS would be affected by the stomach acids when digested. Some were warning of the dangers of agryia. But I did get some interesting answers. To check this out, go to Deja.com, then click the icon that says Discussions. Then in the search engine type ph AND infection - it will take you to it. Rob Memphis Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: cs injections
Has CS ever been administered with an IV to treat Lyme? Rob in Memphis From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: cs injections Date: Mon, 29 May 2000 22:10:23 -0400 I have heard of it being giving intravenously to dogs with parvo or distemper. Should be made into a saline solution first though. Marshall Henry Reed wrote: Is colloidal silver ever given by injection or intravenously? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened.....
You mentioned that CS has poor systemic protection: Wednesday evening I felt myself coming down with a sore throat (I decided a year or two ago to stop taking CS prophylactically because it provided poor systemic protection, in my case anyway) I am rather new to this list, but am curious what this means. Does this mean CS is not distributed well throughout the body? thanks, rob in memphis From: rogalt...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSJust When We Thought HVAC CS Was DOA, Look What Happened. Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 08:12:27 EDT List: Wednesday evening I felt myself coming down with a sore throat (I decided a year or two ago to stop taking CS prophylactically because it provided poor systemic protection, in my case anyway) so I started taking a low dc voltage, limiting current (ma =1.43, and a bubbler was used during production) CS (*concentration unknown, but it had a significant Tyndall). However, my condition steadily worsened. By Thursday afternoon had consumed more than 10 oz. of this CS as the infection spread to my lungs and ears. However, I did notice some temporary relief (for a few minutes) if I let a mouthful of the CS trickle down into my throat from a prone position, but that's very difficult to do for more than a few seconds without swallowing. Enter the much maligned HVAC CS. At about 6 pm Thursday evening, I decided to spray ~1 ppm HVAC CS (pH = 4.5, no Tyndall -- tastes like water despite the low pH) directly into my throat while breathing deeply through my mouth and trying not to swallow. Using a spray bottle, (as opposed to the method described above) made it much easier to refrain from swallowing, thus allowing the heavier atomized water particles to coat the surface of my sore throat. In addition, the smallest of the water droplets had a reasonable chance of reaching my lungs (breathing deeply helps too) where the infection was much more severe. Within minutes I felt better. I continued to follow this procedure later that evening (feeling better and worse during the evening), and during the night as well (whenever I got up, I added a few drops of the HVAC CS to each ear as well). By 6 am I was 90% better, and now as I write this email (7:30 am. I also took another shot of my HVAC CS about an hour ago for good measure), I feel I'm completely normal -- quite dramatic when you consider that I was practically climbing the walls for much of yesterday. Admittedly, this result is a singIe observation, and may not mean that much by itself. However, I recall that the recent BYU Silver Solution work showed generally that 5 ppm of this (presumably CS) prep was needed to kill the various types of bacteria, and 2.5 ppm only inhibited further growth. So it is quite surprising that the ~1 ppm HVAC CS did so well in vivo while the former result was based on in vitro measurments. If anyone is interested in following up on my recent findings please let me know and I'll send you a one ounce sample of the same 1 ppm HVAC CS brew that I used. BTW, 1 ounce is more than sufficient if it is administered from a spray bottle which I HIGHLY recommend based on the almost miraculous results I observed. Please send my $3 to cover shipping it to you, and most importantly, please report your observations to list subscribers. Dr. Roger Altman -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
Hey James, i would really like to know the answer to that one too. If I am going to use Silver properly to treat my Lyme- the right dosage concentration seems to have some correlation. Just curious - have there been research on what concentration of CS is required to inhibit/kill Lyme? Also how does that translate into the ppm and dosage that should be taken? rob in memphis From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com Reply-To: a...@trail.com a...@trail.com To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:56:08 -0600 What is the source of the silver and the amount taken per dose per day? See also the Clark and Beck stuff. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Scharbach [SMTP:myf...@mwt.net] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Sure, James! The basic stuff is, the CS I was taking seemed to hold everything off, wasn't getting any better, wasn't getting any worse, until I ended up in ICU with heart problems. The Docs decided it was the Lyme, they finally DIAGNOSED it as Lyme, and I took 6 weeks of IV Rocephrin. Felt fabulous!! Back to my old self. My SIL who has never known me without Lyme, said she didn't think I was the same person. Anyhow, I've been doing pretty well, a few little ups and downs, here and there, but the Doc's said it was just residual effects, which I believed since it was all joint pain, or tendon type pain, and it had mostly faded. About 3 weeks ago, though, I started getting really tired, and spacey. Then the mood swings, REALLY forgetful, and now my knees and elbows are aching again. Gee, seems like I've been down THIS road before, and thought I'd never want to do it again. . . . . . Sparrow Hi Sparrow, I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened. Can you offer any details, off or on list? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
That is Cool... But I wonder how effective it is against Lyme Disease. That is one Tough Bug!!! Rob From: Scharbach myf...@mwt.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: George Martin gmar...@dragonbyte.net, sIlver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:21:40 -0700 Cool!!! Sounds great!! Sparrow Using substances like PPO to treat infections could also help solve the growing problem of antibiotic resistance, says Cowan. The destruction of bacteria sensitive to antibiotics is a primary requisite for the rise of resistant mutants. Since these compounds don't kill the sensitive bacteria, they remain around to compete and crowd out any individual resistant bacteria that may develop. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSconductivity/ppm conversion
Well, I am using CS now for Lyme Disease, but I still don't understand how it works. For one, i wonder what happens to the silver when it is consumed. Does is distribute throughout the body or does most of it just go out the GI tract I did read the link you provided. It states ionic silver is very effective against microrganisms, but it also said it was harmful to fish, which is a higher life form. Well does this mean there is some danger to humans too? Summary This document is one in a series that establishes ambient water quality criteria for British Columbia. It includes an overview which is followed by the main body of the report. This document sets criteria for silver to protect freshwater and marine aquatic life. Criteria were not set for human, livestock or wildlife drinking water, recreational waters, irrigation water or industrial water uses, since, either suitable data documenting the effects of silver for these uses were lacking, or the criteria would have been about 1000 times higher than the aquatic life criteria and therefore redundant. Silver is most toxic to microscopic organisms or larval forms of aquatic animals. There is no evidence that silver is naturally transformed to a hazardous biologically-available form (such as mercury into methyl mercury). Ionic silver is more toxic to aquatic organisms than silver compounds. Thiosulphate-complexed silver breaks down to silver sulphide which is less toxic than the silver ion. Silver criteria are summarized in the chapter on Recommended Criteria. A more detailed discussion of the criteria is presented in the main body of the report. From: Fred f...@health2us.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSconductivity/ppm conversion Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 12:43:17 -0400 Rolynd said: I have the following question to someone qualified: I have a DiST 3 of hanna industries which measures conductivity but I want to know what ppm my CS has. So ,is there a possibility to convert the readings of conductivity into TDS(ppm)? what formula or multiplication factor has to be used? There is really no answer as it is a variable, as you can see from prior posts here. Ivan says 0.59uS/PPM for the silver ion, Trem and a few others say 1 and sometimes 1.6uS/PPM and I hold to Hanna's origional suggestion of 1.6uS/PPM, not because of faith but because it is very conservative - what I sell as 5PPM may actually be 10 or 20 PPM! When measuring water, it is well established that there are 2uS/PPM usually calcium carbonate. You will learn in time that wether you have 5 or 10 PPM is not important, since an ion is well over 300 times more effective then silver salts or crystals. Your water and process controls are important! The link to that 300 times data is: A HREF=http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/epd/cpr/criteria/awqcfs.html;Can. Gov./A f...@health2us.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@id.net
