Re: CS> SILVER PULSER? (Electronic Healing)
Are you wetting the paper? If they aren't wet it won't carry currnent. If they are wet and you got a paper cut on then you must be very unlucky, I don't see how you did it. To test that my unit is working I will hold one of the electrodes in one hand and put the other to my tongue for a second. It is easy to "feel" if you are getting current. Sharon L. House wrote: > In a recent post I mentioned that had used the Hulda Clark zapper with no > results. Because nothing was happening for me, I began to wonder if I was > getting any current at all as I didn't feel a thing. I used the paper > towels as suggested (although I don't remember reading that they should be > wetted with a saline solution). Then one day, as I was using the unit, I > felt a sharp little ZING on my finger. Like I'd been bitten. I looked at > the finger and found a tiny paper cut. Boy! I sure could feel the current > on that cut! Well, at least I discovered the thing was working after all! > > Sharon > > >You CAN feel the current many times. You do not grasp copper pipes, but > >paper towels which are wrapped around the pipes that have been wetted with a > >saline solution. This provides excellent conductivity throught the skin so > >the current is essentially set by the internal limiting resistor. > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> SILVER PULSER? (Electronic Healing)
In a recent post I mentioned that had used the Hulda Clark zapper with no results. Because nothing was happening for me, I began to wonder if I was getting any current at all as I didn't feel a thing. I used the paper towels as suggested (although I don't remember reading that they should be wetted with a saline solution). Then one day, as I was using the unit, I felt a sharp little ZING on my finger. Like I'd been bitten. I looked at the finger and found a tiny paper cut. Boy! I sure could feel the current on that cut! Well, at least I discovered the thing was working after all! Sharon >You CAN feel the current many times. You do not grasp copper pipes, but >paper towels which are wrapped around the pipes that have been wetted with a >saline solution. This provides excellent conductivity throught the skin so >the current is essentially set by the internal limiting resistor. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> SILVER PULSER? (Electronic Healing)
Marshall, Regarding our friendly discussion concerning the output voltage of the Clark Zapper: When I stated that the average voltage of an AC signal is not zero I was actually referring to the average USABLE voltage. You are correct, technically speaking, that the average voltage is zero. However this is meaningless to most of the non- technical people reading this. There is enough power to light an L.E.D. lamp. This is not zero voltage. It is important that these people know something about this device that may help them in some way. I had stated that the skin resistance of our body is usually over 100,000 ohms. You say that while holding one of the copper pipes (covered with a wet paper towel) in each hand your meter measured a resistance of 3 to 5 ohms from hand to hand. PLEASE!! Get another meter! If this were true then with as little as 5 volts you could have around 1 amp flowing through your body and you'd be fried. I made the same test this evening. I cleaned the copper pipes nice and bright, wrapped one wet (strong saline solution) paper towel around each one. With my digital meter probes clipped to each of the pipes, while grabbing them very firmly the lowest reading from pipe to pipe was 8,000 ohms. Much higher than 3 to 5 ohms. My earlier statement that the body's resistance is usually over 100,000 ohms does not seem correct in this case. I had never measured it using the copper pipes. I do hold my ground concerning the Zapper supplying only DC. AC stands for Alternating Current (a voltage that reverses polarity). The pulsating DC voltage coming out of this device absolutely does not do this. Bil - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: 2001 TV VCR ; Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 1:09 PM Subject: Re: CS> SILVER PULSER? (Electronic Healing) > 2001 TV VCR wrote: > > > Marshall, > > > > Thank you for your response regarding > > the Zapper and Beck units. I am sorry > > that I have to disagree with some of your > > statements. The following electrical > > measurements are incorrect: > > > > The average voltage of an AC signal is > > not zero. The Beck unit outputs approx > > 50 volts peak equal to around 30 volts > > AC RMS (in layman's terms: average > > voltage). > > > > The wave is square so the peak voltage is the same as the RMS. The .707 factor > is only valid for a sine wave, which the BECK unit is not. The Beck unit > reverses polarity so that the positive is negative and the negative is positive > after the polarity switch. I stand by my statement that the average is 0, you > can put an integrator on it and see. The RMS is not 0, it is 50 volts, but I > did not reference the RMS before. RMS voltage is not the same as average > voltage, in any terms, laymans or otherwise. They are very distinct mathmatical > constructs. For the average you take the integral over time, and divide by > time. For the RMS you take the integral of the square over time, divide by > time, then take the square root. The former can give any value from negative > infinity to postive infinty, but the latter can only be 0 or positive. The > latter is useful for power measurements. The average voltage on a wall outlet > is 0, but the RMS is about 120. > > > The Clark unit (Zapper) could supply > > 5 mA uf your skin resistance was as > > low as 1500 ohms. But your skin > > resistance is usually above 100,000 > > ohms ( less than 0.1 mA). > > > > Skin resistance cannot be expressed in ohms. Since we are talking about a > surface phenomenon it must be in ohms per square cm or square inch. I just took > a digital voltmeter and measured from one hand to the other holding the small > probes. My hands were dry and I measured about 50K. I then connected up the > electrodes I use on the Clark unit and measured about 500 ohms, because it was > contacting about 100 times as much surface area. It kept dropping though > because my hands would immediately start sweating. I then wrapped wet paper > towels around each electrode and measured the resistance when I held them in > each hand. The resistance was around 5 ohms (3 to 10), depending on how hard I > held them. > > I stand by my statement before that when holding a large electrode with a wet > paper towel on it, skin resistance is so low as to be virtually irrelevent. > > > With skin resistance at 1500 ohms, > > contacting a car battery's terminals > > would be a very shocking experience > > ( yet you don't even feel anything). > > > > That is true, because it is DC only. But both units have an AC component and > thus a tingling can be felt. > > > The Clark unit does not put out any > > form of AC. The 555 timer
Re: CS> SILVER PULSER? (Electronic Healing)
Marshall, Thank you for your response regarding the Zapper and Beck units. I am sorry that I have to disagree with some of your statements. The following electrical measurements are incorrect: The average voltage of an AC signal is not zero. The Beck unit outputs approx 50 volts peak equal to around 30 volts AC RMS (in layman's terms: average voltage). The Clark unit (Zapper) could supply 5 mA uf your skin resistance was as low as 1500 ohms. But your skin resistance is usually above 100,000 ohms ( less than 0.1 mA). With skin resistance at 1500 ohms, contacting a car battery's terminals would be a very shocking experience ( yet you don't even feel anything). The Clark unit does not put out any form of AC. The 555 timer circuit inside is not capable of doing that. The output is pulsating DC (no AC). I apologize for not mentioning the wet paper towels placed around the copper pipes. I way trying to be as brief as possible. Bil - Original Message - From: Marshall Dudley To: Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 1999 7:09 AM Subject: Re: CS> SILVER PULSER? (Electronic Healing) > 2001 TV VCR wrote: > > > Kent, > > > > The Silver Pulser and other similar devices > > approved by the inventor: Bob Beck are very > > different than the Zapper (Hulda Clark). The > > Zapper outputs approx. 5 volts DC pulsating > > at around 20 kHz (20,000 cycles per second) > > square wave. > > > > It gives about 8 volts peak. The average voltage may be around 5 volts, but > then the average voltage of the Beck unit is around 0V, so that is not a > good way to measure it. > > > The usual method using the Zapper is to apply > > this voltage to your hands by grasping onto two > > copper pipes. You cannot feel the electric > > current and it may not be strong enough to kill > > viruses and bacteria (inside your body) directly. > > > > You CAN feel the current many times. You do not grasp copper pipes, but > paper towels which are wrapped around the pipes that have been wetted with a > saline solution. This provides excellent conductivity throught the skin so > the current is essentially set by the internal limiting resistor. > > > The Beck type devices are much more powerful. > > They output around 27 volts AC (approx 50 V > > peak to peak) ~4 Hz square wave. Using two > > electrodes which are applied to the wrist (one on > > each side of the artery, the voltage can be > > adjusted to a comfortable level using the output > > control. > > > > The current flowing thru the skin is well over 100 > > microamps (millionths of an amp). This current is > > said to penetrate the blood vessels and damage > > viruses, bacteria, parasites, etc. According to > > research done at Albert Einstein University as > > little as 50 microamps are needed to kill viruses. > > > > 5 volts will barely supply 50 microamps IF your > > skin resistance is low enough at the time of > > treatment. And using DC instead of AC is said > > to cause problems. So I use the Beck type unit > > when I get a cold or flu and I am usually better in > > a day or two. Otherwise I am usually sick for > > about 5 days or more. > > > > The Clark unit supplies about 5 mA, which is 100 times more than you > indicate. Also it does not use just DC. It uses AC and DC together, > whereas the Beck unit uses only AC. Clark indicates that her unit will not > work without the DC component. The skin resistance is almost nil in my > measurements with the wetted electrodes so open circuit voltage is almost > irrelevent with wetted skin as long as it is 4 V or more, the current limit > will deteremine how powerful the unit is as it will set the current. > > > Go to these websites for much more information: > > > > www.sota-inc.com > > (check out the Silver Pulser and testimonials) > > > > www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/bbstuff.html > > (click on links at left side of menu) > > > > www.rarebooks.net/beck/ > > (many pages from Bob Beck) > > > > Have fun and good health, > > > > Bil > > >From what I have seen they both work quite well. > > Marshall > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
Re: CS> SILVER PULSER? (Electronic Healing)
2001 TV VCR wrote: > Marshall, > > Thank you for your response regarding > the Zapper and Beck units. I am sorry > that I have to disagree with some of your > statements. The following electrical > measurements are incorrect: > > The average voltage of an AC signal is > not zero. The Beck unit outputs approx > 50 volts peak equal to around 30 volts > AC RMS (in layman's terms: average > voltage). > The wave is square so the peak voltage is the same as the RMS. The .707 factor is only valid for a sine wave, which the BECK unit is not. The Beck unit reverses polarity so that the positive is negative and the negative is positive after the polarity switch. I stand by my statement that the average is 0, you can put an integrator on it and see. The RMS is not 0, it is 50 volts, but I did not reference the RMS before. RMS voltage is not the same as average voltage, in any terms, laymans or otherwise. They are very distinct mathmatical constructs. For the average you take the integral over time, and divide by time. For the RMS you take the integral of the square over time, divide by time, then take the square root. The former can give any value from negative infinity to postive infinty, but the latter can only be 0 or positive. The latter is useful for power measurements. The average voltage on a wall outlet is 0, but the RMS is about 120. > The Clark unit (Zapper) could supply > 5 mA uf your skin resistance was as > low as 1500 ohms. But your skin > resistance is usually above 100,000 > ohms ( less than 0.1 mA). > Skin resistance cannot be expressed in ohms. Since we are talking about a surface phenomenon it must be in ohms per square cm or square inch. I just took a digital voltmeter and measured from one hand to the other holding the small probes. My hands were dry and I measured about 50K. I then connected up the electrodes I use on the Clark unit and measured about 500 ohms, because it was contacting about 100 times as much surface area. It kept dropping though because my hands would immediately start sweating. I then wrapped wet paper towels around each electrode and measured the resistance when I held them in each hand. The resistance was around 5 ohms (3 to 10), depending on how hard I held them. I stand by my statement before that when holding a large electrode with a wet paper towel on it, skin resistance is so low as to be virtually irrelevent. > With skin resistance at 1500 ohms, > contacting a car battery's terminals > would be a very shocking experience > ( yet you don't even feel anything). > That is true, because it is DC only. But both units have an AC component and thus a tingling can be felt. > The Clark unit does not put out any > form of AC. The 555 timer circuit > inside is not capable of doing that. > The output is pulsating DC (no AC). > Pulsing DC is by definition the same as AC plus DC. A 10 volt pulsing DC is exactly the same thing as a 10 volt square wave AC riding on a DC offset of 5 volts. They are equivalent and simply two different ways to express the same thing. A capacitor will pass AC but not DC. Put a capacitor in series with the Clark unit and you will end up with a +/- 4 volt square wave AC signal. All the capacitor does is block the DC component. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> SILVER PULSER? (Electronic Healing)
2001 TV VCR wrote: > Kent, > > The Silver Pulser and other similar devices > approved by the inventor: Bob Beck are very > different than the Zapper (Hulda Clark). The > Zapper outputs approx. 5 volts DC pulsating > at around 20 kHz (20,000 cycles per second) > square wave. > It gives about 8 volts peak. The average voltage may be around 5 volts, but then the average voltage of the Beck unit is around 0V, so that is not a good way to measure it. > The usual method using the Zapper is to apply > this voltage to your hands by grasping onto two > copper pipes. You cannot feel the electric > current and it may not be strong enough to kill > viruses and bacteria (inside your body) directly. > You CAN feel the current many times. You do not grasp copper pipes, but paper towels which are wrapped around the pipes that have been wetted with a saline solution. This provides excellent conductivity throught the skin so the current is essentially set by the internal limiting resistor. > The Beck type devices are much more powerful. > They output around 27 volts AC (approx 50 V > peak to peak) ~4 Hz square wave. Using two > electrodes which are applied to the wrist (one on > each side of the artery, the voltage can be > adjusted to a comfortable level using the output > control. > > The current flowing thru the skin is well over 100 > microamps (millionths of an amp). This current is > said to penetrate the blood vessels and damage > viruses, bacteria, parasites, etc. According to > research done at Albert Einstein University as > little as 50 microamps are needed to kill viruses. > > 5 volts will barely supply 50 microamps IF your > skin resistance is low enough at the time of > treatment. And using DC instead of AC is said > to cause problems. So I use the Beck type unit > when I get a cold or flu and I am usually better in > a day or two. Otherwise I am usually sick for > about 5 days or more. > The Clark unit supplies about 5 mA, which is 100 times more than you indicate. Also it does not use just DC. It uses AC and DC together, whereas the Beck unit uses only AC. Clark indicates that her unit will not work without the DC component. The skin resistance is almost nil in my measurements with the wetted electrodes so open circuit voltage is almost irrelevent with wetted skin as long as it is 4 V or more, the current limit will deteremine how powerful the unit is as it will set the current. > Go to these websites for much more information: > > www.sota-inc.com > (check out the Silver Pulser and testimonials) > > www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/bbstuff.html > (click on links at left side of menu) > > www.rarebooks.net/beck/ > (many pages from Bob Beck) > > Have fun and good health, > > Bil >From what I have seen they both work quite well. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> SILVER PULSER? (Electronic Healing)
Kent, The Silver Pulser and other similar devices approved by the inventor: Bob Beck are very different than the Zapper (Hulda Clark). The Zapper outputs approx. 5 volts DC pulsating at around 20 kHz (20,000 cycles per second) square wave. The usual method using the Zapper is to apply this voltage to your hands by grasping onto two copper pipes. You cannot feel the electric current and it may not be strong enough to kill viruses and bacteria (inside your body) directly. The Beck type devices are much more powerful. They output around 27 volts AC (approx 50 V peak to peak) ~4 Hz square wave. Using two electrodes which are applied to the wrist (one on each side of the artery, the voltage can be adjusted to a comfortable level using the output control. The current flowing thru the skin is well over 100 microamps (millionths of an amp). This current is said to penetrate the blood vessels and damage viruses, bacteria, parasites, etc. According to research done at Albert Einstein University as little as 50 microamps are needed to kill viruses. 5 volts will barely supply 50 microamps IF your skin resistance is low enough at the time of treatment. And using DC instead of AC is said to cause problems. So I use the Beck type unit when I get a cold or flu and I am usually better in a day or two. Otherwise I am usually sick for about 5 days or more. Go to these websites for much more information: www.sota-inc.com (check out the Silver Pulser and testimonials) www.ioa.com/~dragonfly/bbstuff.html (click on links at left side of menu) www.rarebooks.net/beck/ (many pages from Bob Beck) Have fun and good health, Bil -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> SILVER PULSER? (Electronic Healing)
Jeffrey A. Madore wrote: > Chuck, > > Bi-Phasic at > ~3.92 Hertz (cycles per second) +/- 1 Hz > > This is the part that concerns me about metering. I've never heard of > Bi-Phasic > but 3.92 Hz, even if it's not switching polarity, might give wacky readings > on a DVM. Though, with a few additional components, you probably could > use the DVM to provide a consistant relative reading. > The Beck zapper reverses the polarity of the output, so that the average voltage is 0. The Clark zapper is unipolar so that the average is 50% of the peak with a square wave, ie. the polarity does not reverse. I think the BiPhasic is implying that the output polarity is switching. Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> SILVER PULSER? (Electronic Healing)
Chuck, Bi-Phasic at ~3.92 Hertz (cycles per second) +/- 1 Hz This is the part that concerns me about metering. I've never heard of Bi-Phasic but 3.92 Hz, even if it's not switching polarity, might give wacky readings on a DVM. Though, with a few additional components, you probably could use the DVM to provide a consistant relative reading. Jeff -- Kids in the back seat cause accidents; accidents in the back seat cause kids. (Trying to keep up with Chuck!!) Charles King wrote: > On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:29:44 -0800, "2001 TV VCR" wrote: > > >Silver Pulser spec's and general usage info: > > > >Battery Voltage: 9 Volts DC (Alkaline Battery) > > > >Output Voltage at Colloidal Silver Probes: 27 Volts DC, > >+/- 1 Volt > > > >Output Current: 20 milliamps maximum when silver > >wires are shorted > > Oh, okay, > When I saw "pulser", I thought this was one of those current reversing > devices. > Apparently, Becks device is straight DC when using it for CS generating. > So, my meter suggestion stands ok in my last post. > Chuck > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> SILVER PULSER? (Electronic Healing)
On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 20:29:44 -0800, "2001 TV VCR" wrote: >Silver Pulser spec's and general usage info: > >Battery Voltage: 9 Volts DC (Alkaline Battery) > >Output Voltage at Colloidal Silver Probes: 27 Volts DC, >+/- 1 Volt > >Output Current: 20 milliamps maximum when silver >wires are shorted Oh, okay, When I saw "pulser", I thought this was one of those current reversing devices. Apparently, Becks device is straight DC when using it for CS generating. So, my meter suggestion stands ok in my last post. Chuck "I started out with nothing and still have most of it left." -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS> SILVER PULSER? (Electronic Healing)
If you are talking about the Silver Pulser by Sota Instruments (the one approved by Bob Beck), here is some info and spec's. This is supposed to be very powerful in killing viruses, bacteria and any other foreign organisms in the blood. Probably much more effective if taking CS too. I have built a number of these as well as the Magnetic Pulse Generator, another powerful Baddie Blaster which we can discuss at a later date. Silver Pulser spec's and general usage info: Battery Voltage: 9 Volts DC (Alkaline Battery) Output Voltage at Colloidal Silver Probes: 27 Volts DC, +/- 1 Volt Output Current: 20 milliamps maximum when silver wires are shorted Ionic-Colloid Silver Production: 3 - 5ppm (parts per million) for 20 minutes for 8-16 ounces distilled water. Ionic-Colloid Silver Particle Size: Mostly ionic, with colloidal particles in the range of 0.005 - 0.015 microns when made as directed. Silver Wire Life: Can make approximately 80 gallons of 3 - 5 ppm ionic-colloidal silver per set of silver wires, when made as directed. Output Voltage at Gold Stimulator Probes: 27 Volts (Peak per Cycle, 54 Volts Peak-Peak) Bi-Phasic at ~3.92 Hertz (cycles per second) +/- 1 Hz This conforms to Dr. Beck's specifications exactly. Output Current at Gold Stimulator Probes: ~25 milliamps maximum when probes shorted and control knob on full intensity. You apply the gold probes to your wrist (on either side of the artery) and a few hundred microamps (less than a thousandth of one amp flow thru the blood - not anywhere near enough current to cause damage to your tissues). Treatment time is usually 1/2 hour to 2 hours. Bil - Original Message - From: Jeffrey A. Madore To: Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 6:52 PM Subject: Re: CS>Re: Chuck/meters > Chuck, > > I'm not familiar with what the "pulser" has for an output (frequency, etc). > It sounds like something more than flat DC. Do you know? I'm just > wondering how well it would meter. > > Jeff > (Two can live as cheaply as one... for half as long.) > > Charles King wrote: > > > On Fri, 19 Nov 1999 12:35:29 -0700, "Katarina Wittich" > > wrote: > > > > >Now what do you mean when you say "> > > >> If you place it on the milliamp range, in series with one of your silver > > >> electrodes, you will know the current going through your water. > > >I have the bob beck silver pulser and the electrodes are not detacheable -- > > >does in series mean I would have to put the meter between the electrode and > > >the wire that leads to it? I guess I could dismantle it and figure out how > > >to reattatch. Suggestions? > > > > My comments referred to adding a milliamp meter to the simplest of setups. > > That is: 3 battery, 2 clipleads, 2 silver electrodes that are bent to clip on > > the edge of a glass of distilled water. > > > > Anything else will take some simple innovation. > > > > If your device is complete with silver electrodes attached, you'll have to > > leave your device on the bench and use seperate new silver as above. > > Run one clip lead from the meter to one of the electrodes on the Beck device. > > Run one cliplead from the other meter terminal to a new silver electrode on the > > glass. > > Run a third cliplead from the other Beck electrode to the other silver > > electrode on the glass. > > Set the meter to read current, or milliamps (depend on your meter). > > If you draw it out, it's pretty simple. > > Chuck > > if you think education is expensive -- try ignorance. > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >