Re: Richard: Re: CS>CS and HIV
a Silvergen generator producing around 20 ppm - Richard On 14/05/2009, at 19:47, jenny goodhealth wrote: What brand of CS or what CS generator your friend use to reduce her HIV virus load to 0? Pls. advise. Thanks. jen - --- On Tue, 5/12/09, ATOMICSILVER wrote: From: ATOMICSILVER Subject: Re: CS>CS and HIV To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 8:44 AM roughly 20 ppm along with apple cider vinegar seperately On 12/05/2009, at 3:31, Hanneke wrote: > Hi Richard, > > What strength was your friend using? > > Hanneke > > At 04:06 AM 12/05/2009, you wrote: >> Last year I treated a friend with HIV with a liter a week of strong >> cs over a periond of three months and brought her viral load down to >> zero- there was no trace of Hiv left in her body ! She now has more >> energy, her periods are back and generally more positive. By the way, >> the doctor showed no interest in her recovery or how it came >> about .. Richard >> On 11/05/2009, at 1:24, Hanneke wrote: >> >>> Thanks Smitty, great suggestion. I had forgotten about that. Got >>> the books here so that would help. Not sure if her command of >>> English is such that she will fully comprehend it. >>> >>> Before I suggest MMS, I have to find out first if this is available >>> in Holland. >>> >>> At 02:49 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: >>>> > A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive . . . >>>> > Any suggestions? >>>> > Thanks >>>> > Hanneke >>>> >>>> Yes. . .tell her to read this = >>>> >>>> http://mmsadvisor.com/ >>>> >>>> Smitty >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal >>>> Silver. >>>> >>>> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >>>> >>>> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >>>> >>>> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >>>> >>>> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >>>> >>>> List maintainer: Mike Devour >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >>>> Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >>>> Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:52:53 PM >>>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >>>> http://www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >>> Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >>> Tested on: 11/05/2009 3:54:11 PM >>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >>> http://www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> ATOMICSILVER >> atomicsil...@gmail.com >> www.atomicsilver.info >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >> Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:49:54 AM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 > Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:01:46 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info
Richard: Re: CS>CS and HIV
What brand of CS or what CS generator your friend use to reduce her HIV virus load to 0? Pls. advise. Thanks. jen - --- On Tue, 5/12/09, ATOMICSILVER wrote: From: ATOMICSILVER Subject: Re: CS>CS and HIV To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 8:44 AM roughly 20 ppm along with apple cider vinegar seperately On 12/05/2009, at 3:31, Hanneke wrote: > Hi Richard, > > What strength was your friend using? > > Hanneke > > At 04:06 AM 12/05/2009, you wrote: >> Last year I treated a friend with HIV with a liter a week of strong >> cs over a periond of three months and brought her viral load down to >> zero- there was no trace of Hiv left in her body ! She now has more >> energy, her periods are back and generally more positive. By the way, >> the doctor showed no interest in her recovery or how it came >> about .. Richard >> On 11/05/2009, at 1:24, Hanneke wrote: >> >>> Thanks Smitty, great suggestion. I had forgotten about that. Got >>> the books here so that would help. Not sure if her command of >>> English is such that she will fully comprehend it. >>> >>> Before I suggest MMS, I have to find out first if this is available >>> in Holland. >>> >>> At 02:49 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: >>>> > A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive . . . >>>> > Any suggestions? >>>> > Thanks >>>> > Hanneke >>>> >>>> Yes. . .tell her to read this = >>>> >>>> http://mmsadvisor.com/ >>>> >>>> Smitty >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal >>>> Silver. >>>> >>>> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >>>> >>>> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >>>> >>>> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >>>> >>>> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >>>> >>>> List maintainer: Mike Devour >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >>>> Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >>>> Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:52:53 PM >>>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >>>> http://www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >>> Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >>> Tested on: 11/05/2009 3:54:11 PM >>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >>> http://www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> ATOMICSILVER >> atomicsil...@gmail.com >> www.atomicsilver.info >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >> Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:49:54 AM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 > Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:01:46 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info
Re: CS>CS and HIV
roughly 20 ppm along with apple cider vinegar seperately On 12/05/2009, at 3:31, Hanneke wrote: Hi Richard, What strength was your friend using? Hanneke At 04:06 AM 12/05/2009, you wrote: Last year I treated a friend with HIV with a liter a week of strong cs over a periond of three months and brought her viral load down to zero- there was no trace of Hiv left in her body ! She now has more energy, her periods are back and generally more positive. By the way, the doctor showed no interest in her recovery or how it came about .. Richard On 11/05/2009, at 1:24, Hanneke wrote: Thanks Smitty, great suggestion. I had forgotten about that. Got the books here so that would help. Not sure if her command of English is such that she will fully comprehend it. Before I suggest MMS, I have to find out first if this is available in Holland. At 02:49 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: > A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive . . . > Any suggestions? > Thanks > Hanneke Yes. . .tell her to read this = http://mmsadvisor.com/ Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:52:53 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 3:54:11 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:49:54 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:01:46 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info
Re: CS>CS and HIV
Well, I am of the opinion that the HIV virus, if it exists, is really nothing more than a marker. There are several reasons for this. One is if you give the HIV test to anyone, without diluting the specimen by 50:1 or so, it will always indicate positive. HIV is the ONLY blood test where you have to do this, and it seems to mean that EVERYONE has the virus, but by diluting the blood, it will only appear that a person is HIV positive if they have more than some minimum level of the virus. Apparently a healthy immune system is able to keep it down to low levels in a healthy person. So using something to simply reduce the HIV count is working on the symptom, not the cause. I think that there is good evidence that most immune system problems which can progress into AIDS are caused by toxins, benzine and its derivatives are major players, or parasites, which is the primary cause in Africa. If you look at the statistics, many many people who test HIV positive never ever develop AIDS, except those who take the medications for it, and virtually all of them do develop it. Marshall Hanneke wrote: Thanks Marshall, I had sent out an email to her asking her reasons for thinking why she believes her immune system is terribly low. Also if she had any details about viral load (up-down over a period of time). I was already thinking of separating the HIV part from her immune system problems, or perceived as such. Haven't received a response as yet. What is the strength of CS you'd suggest for killing off the HIV virus (even writing this down makes me wonder.. always accepted the fact that there was never an HIV virus identified and that most of the mainstream writing about it just works on the myth and the beliefs created). Perhaps time to watch Len Horowitz again in one of his documentaries... At 01:22 AM 12/05/2009, you wrote: Hanneke wrote: A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? CS does kill the HIV virus, but I think she need to figure out why her immunity is so low that the virus can present itself. If she can get it below the high threshold of the test it would be good. I would recommend avoiding anything that might have benzene or its derivatives in it. That includes products with benzoic acid in them, Marshall Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:49:47 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:00:08 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: CS>CS and HIV
Thanks Ode. That's another great example that CS will help her with her HIV virus. Are you aware of the time it took her for the HIV become undetectable? If she were closer (living in the same country) she could use one of my silverpuppies. Will encourage her to search around in Holland where she can get an affordable generator. Got the description here for the 3 battery one so can always pass that on if none available. At 08:10 PM 12/05/2009, you wrote: I gave a friend a generator to try out on her Hep C. At 1 pint a day @15 PPM, it didn't do anything to the Hep C but her HIV tests went to undetectable. As a welder and sheet metal worker, she said she was healing from burns and cuts faster than she ever had and she felt better than she had for years. Ode At 11:52 AM 5/11/2009 -0400, you wrote: Hanneke wrote: A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? CS does kill the HIV virus, but I think she need to figure out why her immunity is so low that the virus can present itself. If she can get it below the high threshold of the test it would be good. I would recommend avoiding anything that might have benzene or its derivatives in it. That includes products with benzoic acid in them, Marshall Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 8:32:08 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 8:44:02 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: CS>CS and HIV
I gave a friend a generator to try out on her Hep C. At 1 pint a day @15 PPM, it didn't do anything to the Hep C but her HIV tests went to undetectable. As a welder and sheet metal worker, she said she was healing from burns and cuts faster than she ever had and she felt better than she had for years. Ode At 11:52 AM 5/11/2009 -0400, you wrote: Hanneke wrote: A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? CS does kill the HIV virus, but I think she need to figure out why her immunity is so low that the virus can present itself. If she can get it below the high threshold of the test it would be good. I would recommend avoiding anything that might have benzene or its derivatives in it. That includes products with benzoic acid in them, Marshall Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS and HIV
Hi Richard, What strength was your friend using? Hanneke At 04:06 AM 12/05/2009, you wrote: Last year I treated a friend with HIV with a liter a week of strong cs over a periond of three months and brought her viral load down to zero- there was no trace of Hiv left in her body ! She now has more energy, her periods are back and generally more positive. By the way, the doctor showed no interest in her recovery or how it came about .. Richard On 11/05/2009, at 1:24, Hanneke wrote: Thanks Smitty, great suggestion. I had forgotten about that. Got the books here so that would help. Not sure if her command of English is such that she will fully comprehend it. Before I suggest MMS, I have to find out first if this is available in Holland. At 02:49 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: > A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive . . . > Any suggestions? > Thanks > Hanneke Yes. . .tell her to read this = http://mmsadvisor.com/ Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:52:53 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 3:54:11 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:49:54 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:01:46 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: CS>CS and HIV
Thanks Marshall, I had sent out an email to her asking her reasons for thinking why she believes her immune system is terribly low. Also if she had any details about viral load (up-down over a period of time). I was already thinking of separating the HIV part from her immune system problems, or perceived as such. Haven't received a response as yet. What is the strength of CS you'd suggest for killing off the HIV virus (even writing this down makes me wonder.. always accepted the fact that there was never an HIV virus identified and that most of the mainstream writing about it just works on the myth and the beliefs created). Perhaps time to watch Len Horowitz again in one of his documentaries... At 01:22 AM 12/05/2009, you wrote: Hanneke wrote: A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? CS does kill the HIV virus, but I think she need to figure out why her immunity is so low that the virus can present itself. If she can get it below the high threshold of the test it would be good. I would recommend avoiding anything that might have benzene or its derivatives in it. That includes products with benzoic acid in them, Marshall Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:49:47 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:00:08 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
RE: CS>CS and HIV
Thank you so much, I will check that out for her. I might give her a call over the weekend and discuss things then. It appears she is pretty much unaware of what HIV is about (or is not about) except for the possibility of developing AIDS, prtty much mainstream thinking. I understand that she is totally new to alternative approaches. It would be great if she reads English web sites which apparently she doesn't. And truth be told, I am totally lost if I have to find info on Dutch websites even though I am fluent in Dutch. To me it seems that a lot of info is being surpressed or just not translated at all. I have read some websites on CS, in the Dutch language. which gives the newcomer to CS the impression that you really take your life into your own hands with even thinking about CS let alone taking it. At least one can purchase it. At 10:25 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: Bloesem Remedies The Netherlands Bram Zaalberg St. Jansstraat 5 5964 AA Horst Meterik The Netherlands Tel: 31 77 398 7826 Fax: 31 77 398 7827 Email: i...@bloesem-remedies.com Web: www.bloesem-remedies.com there is a little write up on each essence in Dutch she might like to read, but with out a book she will need a practioner. You have to search in the menu under Bloesem Remedies then Australian Flower essences as they have more than one type of essences. The Australian ones though IMO are more curative than the others though She will be able to get a practioner I am sure from this companies recommendation, as she will then get the best help for her. I have ordered some Emergency Essence once from this company for a fellow list member on another list when she had deep grief and problems with her dogs (was a dog behaviour list) and knew the dog was picking up on her grief and both could use it. My shipping her some would have taken too long. The company was very good in allowing me to pay with PayPal :o))) Even though they had never taken an order from over seas before. They knew I was trying to help. By the way the Emergency Essence was of great help for her and her dog. Louise -Original Message- From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 2:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>CS and HIV Thanks Louise. I believe she is able to buy CS in Holland which means she can take it as suggested. Re Ian White's book, there might be a problem as in language barrier not knowing is she has English language skills.. I can guide her but I believe it is best if people understand what they are doing rather than following my suggestions. At 02:27 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: >She might look into Australian Bush Flower Essences Australian Bush Flower >Healing book by Ian White has a section on boosting the immune system on >page 310, but repertorizing for all symptoms is a good idea to find the best >mix for that particular person. The also on the same page have some >essences suggestions for viral infections that might also be helpful. > >Some Emergency Essence might also be useful as well >http://www.copper-tree.ca/essences/combo-info08a.pdf >gives not on this combinations as well as others. > >I think that CS is good but in Europe they are using it as IV with some >herbal tinctures to treat viral infections. > >Louise > >-Original Message- >From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] >Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:31 PM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: CS>CS and HIV > > >A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been >for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. >In general she appears to be doing ok. >She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS >would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was >going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more >clues). > >I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS >whilst looking further into it on her behalf. > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks >Hanneke > > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >http://www.avast.com > > > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:32
Re: CS>CS and HIV
Last year I treated a friend with HIV with a liter a week of strong cs over a periond of three months and brought her viral load down to zero- there was no trace of Hiv left in her body ! She now has more energy, her periods are back and generally more positive. By the way, the doctor showed no interest in her recovery or how it came about .. Richard On 11/05/2009, at 1:24, Hanneke wrote: Thanks Smitty, great suggestion. I had forgotten about that. Got the books here so that would help. Not sure if her command of English is such that she will fully comprehend it. Before I suggest MMS, I have to find out first if this is available in Holland. At 02:49 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: > A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive . . . > Any suggestions? > Thanks > Hanneke Yes. . .tell her to read this = http://mmsadvisor.com/ Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:52:53 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 3:54:11 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info
Re: CS>CS and HIV
Hanneke wrote: A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? CS does kill the HIV virus, but I think she need to figure out why her immunity is so low that the virus can present itself. If she can get it below the high threshold of the test it would be good. I would recommend avoiding anything that might have benzene or its derivatives in it. That includes products with benzoic acid in them, Marshall Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>CS and HIV
Some have been translated, will check if one is Dutch. Louise -Original Message- From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 2:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>CS and HIV Thanks Louise. I believe she is able to buy CS in Holland which means she can take it as suggested. Re Ian White's book, there might be a problem as in language barrier not knowing is she has English language skills.. I can guide her but I believe it is best if people understand what they are doing rather than following my suggestions. At 02:27 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: >She might look into Australian Bush Flower Essences Australian Bush Flower >Healing book by Ian White has a section on boosting the immune system on >page 310, but repertorizing for all symptoms is a good idea to find the best >mix for that particular person. The also on the same page have some >essences suggestions for viral infections that might also be helpful. > >Some Emergency Essence might also be useful as well >http://www.copper-tree.ca/essences/combo-info08a.pdf >gives not on this combinations as well as others. > >I think that CS is good but in Europe they are using it as IV with some >herbal tinctures to treat viral infections. > >Louise > >-Original Message- >From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] >Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:31 PM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: CS>CS and HIV > > >A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been >for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. >In general she appears to be doing ok. >She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS >would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was >going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more >clues). > >I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS >whilst looking further into it on her behalf. > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks >Hanneke > > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >http://www.avast.com > > > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:32:21 PM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 4:01:50 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
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Bloesem Remedies The Netherlands Bram Zaalberg St. Jansstraat 5 5964 AA Horst Meterik The Netherlands Tel: 31 77 398 7826 Fax: 31 77 398 7827 Email: i...@bloesem-remedies.com Web: www.bloesem-remedies.com there is a little write up on each essence in Dutch she might like to read, but with out a book she will need a practioner. You have to search in the menu under Bloesem Remedies then Australian Flower essences as they have more than one type of essences. The Australian ones though IMO are more curative than the others though She will be able to get a practioner I am sure from this companies recommendation, as she will then get the best help for her. I have ordered some Emergency Essence once from this company for a fellow list member on another list when she had deep grief and problems with her dogs (was a dog behaviour list) and knew the dog was picking up on her grief and both could use it. My shipping her some would have taken too long. The company was very good in allowing me to pay with PayPal :o))) Even though they had never taken an order from over seas before. They knew I was trying to help. By the way the Emergency Essence was of great help for her and her dog. Louise -Original Message- From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 2:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>CS and HIV Thanks Louise. I believe she is able to buy CS in Holland which means she can take it as suggested. Re Ian White's book, there might be a problem as in language barrier not knowing is she has English language skills.. I can guide her but I believe it is best if people understand what they are doing rather than following my suggestions. At 02:27 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: >She might look into Australian Bush Flower Essences Australian Bush Flower >Healing book by Ian White has a section on boosting the immune system on >page 310, but repertorizing for all symptoms is a good idea to find the best >mix for that particular person. The also on the same page have some >essences suggestions for viral infections that might also be helpful. > >Some Emergency Essence might also be useful as well >http://www.copper-tree.ca/essences/combo-info08a.pdf >gives not on this combinations as well as others. > >I think that CS is good but in Europe they are using it as IV with some >herbal tinctures to treat viral infections. > >Louise > >-Original Message- >From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] >Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:31 PM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: CS>CS and HIV > > >A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been >for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. >In general she appears to be doing ok. >She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS >would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was >going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more >clues). > >I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS >whilst looking further into it on her behalf. > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks >Hanneke > > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >http://www.avast.com > > > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:32:21 PM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 4:01:50 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
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Thanks Louise. I believe she is able to buy CS in Holland which means she can take it as suggested. Re Ian White's book, there might be a problem as in language barrier not knowing is she has English language skills.. I can guide her but I believe it is best if people understand what they are doing rather than following my suggestions. At 02:27 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: She might look into Australian Bush Flower Essences Australian Bush Flower Healing book by Ian White has a section on boosting the immune system on page 310, but repertorizing for all symptoms is a good idea to find the best mix for that particular person. The also on the same page have some essences suggestions for viral infections that might also be helpful. Some Emergency Essence might also be useful as well http://www.copper-tree.ca/essences/combo-info08a.pdf gives not on this combinations as well as others. I think that CS is good but in Europe they are using it as IV with some herbal tinctures to treat viral infections. Louise -Original Message- From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>CS and HIV A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:32:21 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 4:01:50 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
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Thanks Smitty, great suggestion. I had forgotten about that. Got the books here so that would help. Not sure if her command of English is such that she will fully comprehend it. Before I suggest MMS, I have to find out first if this is available in Holland. At 02:49 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: > A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive . . . > Any suggestions? > Thanks > Hanneke Yes. . .tell her to read this = http://mmsadvisor.com/ Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:52:53 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 3:54:11 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
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Henneke, If it were me I'd follow the Beck protocol of blood electrification along with taking CS (probably much larger amounts). In addition I would look into possibly taking MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement or chlorine dioxide) and perhaps some anti viral herbs such as bloodroot and chaparral. Good luck. Bob - Original Message - From: "Hanneke" To: Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:31 PM Subject: CS>CS and HIV A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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> A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive . . . > Any suggestions? > Thanks > Hanneke Yes. . .tell her to read this = http://mmsadvisor.com/ Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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She might look into Australian Bush Flower Essences Australian Bush Flower Healing book by Ian White has a section on boosting the immune system on page 310, but repertorizing for all symptoms is a good idea to find the best mix for that particular person. The also on the same page have some essences suggestions for viral infections that might also be helpful. Some Emergency Essence might also be useful as well http://www.copper-tree.ca/essences/combo-info08a.pdf gives not on this combinations as well as others. I think that CS is good but in Europe they are using it as IV with some herbal tinctures to treat viral infections. Louise -Original Message- From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>CS and HIV A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS>CS and HIV
A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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...cough up the info.. - Original Message - From: James Allison To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 9:42 AM Subject: Re: CS and HIV You said... Some of the tests we have been running at a university show a new and better protocol for using CS. We would be glad to share this information with you. And I say... Only him? ;) Yours in health, James Allison
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HI. I was wondering how much you are taking of the CS and how many times a day. Also, when in January did you start it and when was your blood drawn for the tests? Do you know what parts per million you are taking. It sounds like there has been improvement so that is good!! I would NOT assume you have reached a plateau b/c people with other chronic infections like Lyme from what I understand I believe slowly improve over many months for example. I would not be too excited about prescription drugs for AIDS. Keep with the CS and possibly increase? Also, you may want to check out www.sota-inc.com and also look into "rifing" just in case you may be interested. To start looking into that go to www.rt66.com/~rifetech/ and follow the links. Best wishes. Hang in there and don't give up. It sounds like you are making progress. Christy n a message dated 5/3/00 7:55:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time, corni...@hotmail.com writes: << Subj: CS and HIV Date: 5/3/00 7:55:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time From: corni...@hotmail.com (Chad Powell) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Hey, Listers... I have been part of this list for a few months now. I have HIV, and I turned to CS to see what the effects would be for me. I went to get my results yesterday from my lab tests after using the CS since January. I talked to my doctor very briefly about CS. He's trying to warn me about the long term side effects. Then again, no one knows the long term effects of the HIV drugs, either. Anyway. My viral load the last time I was tested was at 22,000 copies per CC of blood, and my T-Cell count was at 598. This time my T-cell count was 594 and my viral load was at 16,000 copies per CC of blood. Not the changes I was expecting, by any means. It was a good sign that the viral load went down, but it was not as low as I was thinking the CS would get it to. The questions I am thinking of now...was the CS effective in slowly bringing my load down, or has my body hit a plateau for the time being, and is it successfully holding off the virus right now? I am not sure what to think or believe. I am not too concerned about the viral load right now, unless it gets up over 20,000 again. I should be fine until then because my T-Cell count is high. The next question isdo I just continue taking the CS, or do I begin taking the medications that will get my viral load down to undetectable? Kinda crazy. I am at a loss what to think or do right now. I am disapointed, but I have to continue the fight. Let me know what you think. >> -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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amen Marshall Dudley wrote: > > There are lots of use who would like to know a new and better protocol for CS. > How about posting it here? > > Marshall > > Annex wrote: > > > Chad, > > > > Read your message today. Would you contact me by E-mail bill...@flosc.net. > > Some of the tests we have been running at a university show a new and better > > protocol for using CS. We would be glad to share this information with you. > > > > Our feeling is that it might be of great help to you in your battle with the > > virus. > > > > Bill Biagioli > > Annex Manufacturing Co. > > > > -- > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > List maintainer: Mike Devour
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I wonder how long my generator would have to be on to make a quart of CS??? Trem, do you know that answer? Chad Original Message Follows From: Marshall Dudley Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS and HIV Date: Wed, 03 May 2000 18:05:34 -0400 Looking at a graph of the viral load. it appears that if the growth rate had continued at the same rate as it was in the preceding months, then you would expect the load to be at about 40,000 if that last test was in Feb, or 100,000 or so if in April. I don't know if these tend to plateau or not, but if they don't, then the CS appears to have dropped the load by 60 to 84% from what it might have been if CS had not been taken. I would double up on the CS and add the other protocols personally. Do not drink anything with nutrasweet in it, avoid all benzene, including benzoic acid and sodium benzoate. The majority of what I would drink would be pure CS, at least a quart a day, and if possible two quarts a day. If the herx becomes too much I would cut back until I could increase it without undue herx. I would also take Elderberry extract, Sambucol specifically. Sambucol does not kill viruses, but does prevent their replication, so CS and Sambucol have a great synergy between them. Keep us posted. Marshall Chad Powell wrote: > Ah!, IC. > > My first test was done in September. My viral load was at 4,000 copies and > T-cells at 480. My second test was in December and my viral load was at > 13,000 copies and T-cells at 596. My third test was in January and my viral > was at 22,000 copies and T-cells at 598. My last test was after using > silver. My viral was at 16,000 and T-cells at 594. > > silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS and HIV > Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 16:43:25 EDT > > In a message dated 00-05-03 15:49:43 EDT, you write: > > << What type of Blood Data are you referring to? >> > > Chad: > > Simply more data of the type you have already reported. > > Roger > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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Bill Biagioli I also hope that this information can be shared with the people on this list in due course. I believe that this is one of the main purposes of this list. Gaston === - Message d'origine - De : Annex À : Envoyé : 4 mai, 2000 09:34 Objet : Re: CS and HIV > Chad, > > Read your message today. Would you contact me by E-mail bill...@flosc.net. > Some of the tests we have been running at a university show a new and better > protocol for using CS. We would be glad to share this information with you. > > Our feeling is that it might be of great help to you in your battle with the > virus. > > Bill Biagioli > Annex Manufacturing Co. > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
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There are lots of use who would like to know a new and better protocol for CS. How about posting it here? Marshall Annex wrote: > Chad, > > Read your message today. Would you contact me by E-mail bill...@flosc.net. > Some of the tests we have been running at a university show a new and better > protocol for using CS. We would be glad to share this information with you. > > Our feeling is that it might be of great help to you in your battle with the > virus. > > Bill Biagioli > Annex Manufacturing Co. > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
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You said... Some of the tests we have been running at a university show a new and better protocol for using CS. We would be glad to share this information with you. And I say... Only him? ;) Yours in health, James Allison
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Chad, Read your message today. Would you contact me by E-mail bill...@flosc.net. Some of the tests we have been running at a university show a new and better protocol for using CS. We would be glad to share this information with you. Our feeling is that it might be of great help to you in your battle with the virus. Bill Biagioli Annex Manufacturing Co. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Looking at a graph of the viral load. it appears that if the growth rate had continued at the same rate as it was in the preceding months, then you would expect the load to be at about 40,000 if that last test was in Feb, or 100,000 or so if in April. I don't know if these tend to plateau or not, but if they don't, then the CS appears to have dropped the load by 60 to 84% from what it might have been if CS had not been taken. I would double up on the CS and add the other protocols personally. Do not drink anything with nutrasweet in it, avoid all benzene, including benzoic acid and sodium benzoate. The majority of what I would drink would be pure CS, at least a quart a day, and if possible two quarts a day. If the herx becomes too much I would cut back until I could increase it without undue herx. I would also take Elderberry extract, Sambucol specifically. Sambucol does not kill viruses, but does prevent their replication, so CS and Sambucol have a great synergy between them. Keep us posted. Marshall Chad Powell wrote: > Ah!, IC. > > My first test was done in September. My viral load was at 4,000 copies and > T-cells at 480. My second test was in December and my viral load was at > 13,000 copies and T-cells at 596. My third test was in January and my viral > was at 22,000 copies and T-cells at 598. My last test was after using > silver. My viral was at 16,000 and T-cells at 594. > > silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS and HIV > Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 16:43:25 EDT > > In a message dated 00-05-03 15:49:43 EDT, you write: > > << What type of Blood Data are you referring to? >> > > Chad: > > Simply more data of the type you have already reported. > > Roger > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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In a message dated 00-05-03 17:26:38 EDT, you write: << My first test was done in September. My viral load was at 4,000 copies and T-cells at 480. My second test was in December and my viral load was at 13,000 copies and T-cells at 596. My third test was in January and my viral was at 22,000 copies and T-cells at 598. My last test was after using silver. My viral was at 16,000 and T-cells at 594. >> Chad: Please keep us abreast of your latest viral load and T-cell count. I can do a "t-test" (statistical) analysis which would provide some guidance if the numbers themselves aren't clear enough to tell us if the CS is helping. It would be better if you got an analysis of the ppm CS you're taking. I'm sure there are "silver-listers" who could help in this regard. Also try to measure how many ounces you take in a day. themselves. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Ah!, IC. My first test was done in September. My viral load was at 4,000 copies and T-cells at 480. My second test was in December and my viral load was at 13,000 copies and T-cells at 596. My third test was in January and my viral was at 22,000 copies and T-cells at 598. My last test was after using silver. My viral was at 16,000 and T-cells at 594. silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS and HIV Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 16:43:25 EDT In a message dated 00-05-03 15:49:43 EDT, you write: << What type of Blood Data are you referring to? >> Chad: Simply more data of the type you have already reported. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
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In a message dated 00-05-03 15:49:43 EDT, you write: << What type of Blood Data are you referring to? >> Chad: Simply more data of the type you have already reported. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS and HIV
What type of Blood Data are you referring to? Original Message Follows From: rogalt...@aol.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS and HIV Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 11:30:14 EDT In a message dated 00-05-03 10:55:59 EDT, you write: << Hey, Listers... I have been part of this list for a few months now. I have HIV, and I turned to CS to see what the effects would be for me. I went to get my results yesterday from my lab tests after using the CS since January. I talked to my doctor very briefly about CS. He's trying to warn me about the long term side effects. Then again, no one knows the long term effects of the HIV drugs, either. Anyway. My viral load the last time I was tested was at 22,000 copies per CC of blood, and my T-Cell count was at 598. This time my T-cell count was 594 and my viral load was at 16,000 copies per CC of blood. Not the changes I was expecting, by any means. It was a good sign that the viral load went down, but it was not as low as I was thinking the CS would get it to. The questions I am thinking of now...was the CS effective in slowly bringing my load down, or has my body hit a plateau for the time being, and is it successfully holding off the virus right now? I am not sure what to think or believe. I am not too concerned about the viral load right now, unless it gets up over 20,000 again. I should be fine until then because my T-Cell count is high. The next question isdo I just continue taking the CS, or do I begin taking the medications that will get my viral load down to undetectable? Kinda crazy. I am at a loss what to think or do right now. I am disapointed, but I have to continue the fight. Let me know what you think. >> Chad: Please tell us how the CS you're taking now was prepared, how often you take it and what the concertration is. Also, how long you've been taking CS in general and/or this particular CS prep? Do you have any more (blood?) data you can share with us? Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CS and HIV
How much are you taking daily? -Original Message- From: Chad Powell To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 1:28 PM Subject: Re: CS and HIV >The PPM I am using is roughly 12-18ppm. I use a generator from SilverGen. >I love the generator. It is easy to use, and it seems to make a consistent >product every time. > > >Original Message Follows >From: "James Allison" >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com >To: >Subject: Re: CS and HIV >Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:15:25 -0700 > >Hi Chad, I just read your message on the silver list and have a few of >questions. How much CS are you taking, what is the PPM (roughly), and by >what process is the CS made? > >I ask because we are doing some testing on people with Hepatitis C and are >having good luck with CS as far as getting the live enzymes down and red >blood cell counts back to normal. > >Yours in health, >James Allison > >- >Allisons Apothecary - Your On-Line Apothecary >Visit Us Soon - http://allisonsapothecary.com >Home of the $39.95 Colloidal Silver Generator >And Wonderful Prices On Quality Products Like >MSM, Ionic Mineral Waters and Apricot Kernels >- > > > - Original Message - > From: Chad Powell > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 7:54 AM > Subject: CS and HIV > > > Hey, Listers... > > I have been part of this list for a few months now. I have HIV, and I > turned to CS to see what the effects would be for me. I went to get my > results yesterday from my lab tests after using the CS since January. I > talked to my doctor very briefly about CS. He's trying to warn me about >the > long term side effects. Then again, no one knows the long term effects >of > the HIV drugs, either. > > Anyway. My viral load the last time I was tested was at 22,000 copies >per > CC of blood, and my T-Cell count was at 598. This time my T-cell count >was > 594 and my viral load was at 16,000 copies per CC of blood. Not the >changes > I was expecting, by any means. It was a good sign that the viral load >went > down, but it was not as low as I was thinking the CS would get it to. >The > questions I am thinking of now...was the CS effective in slowly bringing >my > load down, or has my body hit a plateau for the time being, and is it > successfully holding off the virus right now? I am not sure what to >think > or believe. I am not too concerned about the viral load right now, >unless > it gets up over 20,000 again. I should be fine until then because my >T-Cell > count is high. The next question isdo I just continue taking the CS, >or > do I begin taking the medications that will get my viral load down to > undetectable? > > Kinda crazy. I am at a loss what to think or do right now. I am > disapointed, but I have to continue the fight. Let me know what you >think. > > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > >
Re: CS and HIV
Oooops, I forgot to finish. I also take gulps at a time of the cs. I don't sip or gargle, I just swallow a lot of it. Original Message Follows From: "James Allison" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: Re: CS and HIV Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:15:25 -0700 Hi Chad, I just read your message on the silver list and have a few of questions. How much CS are you taking, what is the PPM (roughly), and by what process is the CS made? I ask because we are doing some testing on people with Hepatitis C and are having good luck with CS as far as getting the live enzymes down and red blood cell counts back to normal. Yours in health, James Allison - Allisons Apothecary - Your On-Line Apothecary Visit Us Soon - http://allisonsapothecary.com Home of the $39.95 Colloidal Silver Generator And Wonderful Prices On Quality Products Like MSM, Ionic Mineral Waters and Apricot Kernels - - Original Message - From: Chad Powell To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 7:54 AM Subject: CS and HIV Hey, Listers... I have been part of this list for a few months now. I have HIV, and I turned to CS to see what the effects would be for me. I went to get my results yesterday from my lab tests after using the CS since January. I talked to my doctor very briefly about CS. He's trying to warn me about the long term side effects. Then again, no one knows the long term effects of the HIV drugs, either. Anyway. My viral load the last time I was tested was at 22,000 copies per CC of blood, and my T-Cell count was at 598. This time my T-cell count was 594 and my viral load was at 16,000 copies per CC of blood. Not the changes I was expecting, by any means. It was a good sign that the viral load went down, but it was not as low as I was thinking the CS would get it to. The questions I am thinking of now...was the CS effective in slowly bringing my load down, or has my body hit a plateau for the time being, and is it successfully holding off the virus right now? I am not sure what to think or believe. I am not too concerned about the viral load right now, unless it gets up over 20,000 again. I should be fine until then because my T-Cell count is high. The next question isdo I just continue taking the CS, or do I begin taking the medications that will get my viral load down to undetectable? Kinda crazy. I am at a loss what to think or do right now. I am disapointed, but I have to continue the fight. Let me know what you think. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CS and HIV
The PPM I am using is roughly 12-18ppm. I use a generator from SilverGen. I love the generator. It is easy to use, and it seems to make a consistent product every time. Original Message Follows From: "James Allison" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: Subject: Re: CS and HIV Date: Wed, 3 May 2000 08:15:25 -0700 Hi Chad, I just read your message on the silver list and have a few of questions. How much CS are you taking, what is the PPM (roughly), and by what process is the CS made? I ask because we are doing some testing on people with Hepatitis C and are having good luck with CS as far as getting the live enzymes down and red blood cell counts back to normal. Yours in health, James Allison - Allisons Apothecary - Your On-Line Apothecary Visit Us Soon - http://allisonsapothecary.com Home of the $39.95 Colloidal Silver Generator And Wonderful Prices On Quality Products Like MSM, Ionic Mineral Waters and Apricot Kernels - - Original Message - From: Chad Powell To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 7:54 AM Subject: CS and HIV Hey, Listers... I have been part of this list for a few months now. I have HIV, and I turned to CS to see what the effects would be for me. I went to get my results yesterday from my lab tests after using the CS since January. I talked to my doctor very briefly about CS. He's trying to warn me about the long term side effects. Then again, no one knows the long term effects of the HIV drugs, either. Anyway. My viral load the last time I was tested was at 22,000 copies per CC of blood, and my T-Cell count was at 598. This time my T-cell count was 594 and my viral load was at 16,000 copies per CC of blood. Not the changes I was expecting, by any means. It was a good sign that the viral load went down, but it was not as low as I was thinking the CS would get it to. The questions I am thinking of now...was the CS effective in slowly bringing my load down, or has my body hit a plateau for the time being, and is it successfully holding off the virus right now? I am not sure what to think or believe. I am not too concerned about the viral load right now, unless it gets up over 20,000 again. I should be fine until then because my T-Cell count is high. The next question isdo I just continue taking the CS, or do I begin taking the medications that will get my viral load down to undetectable? Kinda crazy. I am at a loss what to think or do right now. I am disapointed, but I have to continue the fight. Let me know what you think. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CS and HIV
Hi Chad, Free adivce is often worth what it costs, but here are some opinions. 1. What did your Dr. say were the long term effects of CS use, and on what is his opinion based? 2. In about 3 months you have reduced the vial load by about one third. 3. I recommend you look carefully at the toxic effects of AIDs meds. For AZT, the side effects are some of the symptoms of AIDS, short term. Read the PDR for the specific drug, and if you do not understand some of the terms either consult someone who knows the words or consult a medical dictionary. 4. How much CS have you been taking, what is the mg/L concentration and particle size, and what is the source of it; i.e. what process was used, and by whom? Good luck with it all, James Osbourne Holmes FTNWO -Original Message- From: Chad Powell To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 9:00 AM Subject: CS and HIV >Hey, Listers... > >I have been part of this list for a few months now. I have HIV, and I >turned to CS to see what the effects would be for me. I went to get my >results yesterday from my lab tests after using the CS since January. I >talked to my doctor very briefly about CS. He's trying to warn me about the >long term side effects. Then again, no one knows the long term effects of >the HIV drugs, either. > >Anyway. My viral load the last time I was tested was at 22,000 copies per >CC of blood, and my T-Cell count was at 598. This time my T-cell count was >594 and my viral load was at 16,000 copies per CC of blood. Not the changes >I was expecting, by any means. It was a good sign that the viral load went >down, but it was not as low as I was thinking the CS would get it to. The >questions I am thinking of now...was the CS effective in slowly bringing my >load down, or has my body hit a plateau for the time being, and is it >successfully holding off the virus right now? I am not sure what to think >or believe. I am not too concerned about the viral load right now, unless >it gets up over 20,000 again. I should be fine until then because my T-Cell >count is high. The next question isdo I just continue taking the CS, or >do I begin taking the medications that will get my viral load down to >undetectable? > >Kinda crazy. I am at a loss what to think or do right now. I am >disapointed, but I have to continue the fight. Let me know what you think. > > > > >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS and HIV
> getting the live enzymes down and red blood cell counts back to normal. ack! live = liver Yours in health, James Allison - Allisons Apothecary - Your On-Line Apothecary Visit Us Soon - http://allisonsapothecary.com Home of the $39.95 Colloidal Silver Generator And Wonderful Prices On Quality Products Like MSM, Ionic Mineral Waters and Apricot Kernels -
Re: CS and HIV
Hi Chad; Others have had good results with CS, So the question is do you know the strength by actual measurement, and particle size of your CS by looking at the T.E.? The best CS has almost no T.E. when using a laser pointer. See www.natural-immunogenics.com If you can't answer yes to these then contact me off list and I will show you how. "Ole Bob" > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS and HIV
Chad Powell wrote: > Hey, Listers... > > I have been part of this list for a few months now. I have HIV, and I > turned to CS to see what the effects would be for me. I went to get my > results yesterday from my lab tests after using the CS since January. I > talked to my doctor very briefly about CS. He's trying to warn me about the > long term side effects. Then again, no one knows the long term effects of > the HIV drugs, either. > There are no long term side effect of CS that have ever been reported. > > Anyway. My viral load the last time I was tested was at 22,000 copies per > CC of blood, and my T-Cell count was at 598. This time my T-cell count was > 594 and my viral load was at 16,000 copies per CC of blood. Not the changes > I was expecting, by any means. It was a good sign that the viral load went > down, but it was not as low as I was thinking the CS would get it to. >From what I have read, the full 4 step protocol is recommended for HIV. Beck reports 100% success rate if I remember right using all 4 steps. CS is only one of the steps. Remember that virus replication rates can be extremely high, and the kill rate of CS (which depends on the quantity taken) must exceed the replication rate for dramatic reductions. > The > questions I am thinking of now...was the CS effective in slowly bringing my > load down, or has my body hit a plateau for the time being, and is it > successfully holding off the virus right now? How much CS are you taking. For a severe infection I would take much more than the one to two ounces or so a day one takes for prevention. Remember the saying, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure? Well a pound of CS would be 2 cups. If I had HIV I would take as much CS as I could without getting into too much herx, and would use the other 3 protocols as well, ozonated water, zapping and magnetic pulsing. > I am not sure what to think > or believe. I am not too concerned about the viral load right now, unless > it gets up over 20,000 again. I should be fine until then because my T-Cell > count is high. The next question isdo I just continue taking the CS, or > do I begin taking the medications that will get my viral load down to > undetectable? How much CS are you taking and what is your weight, or if you prefer, how much CS are you taking per 100 pounds? I suspect you are not taking enough to bring it down to 0. What is the ppm of the CS? Marshall -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Dear Chad, Have you read much of the dissident scientists info on HIV & AIDS and PCR testing? I think it is very important and I worry about eveyone taking the cocktail drugs. If you have a chance, please go to a website which I manage (I havent worked on it in months, but it has lots of good links): http://Heal_Portland.tripod.com/ Portland HEAL can send you an info packet for free if you request it. It contains some very interesting articles and a great little booklet called "What if Everything you Knew About AIDS was Wrong?". Kary Mullis, the Nobel prize winning chemist who invented the PCR process does not think PCR should be used to test for HIV, *especially* in a quantitative way. He does not think HIV is the cause of AIDS. Peter Duesberg, a world-renowned Berkeley virologist thinks the drugs used to treat HIV can themselves cause the immune suppressed condition we call "AIDS". Thank God for things like Colloidal Silver! I am very happy that you are open minded about questioning the mainstream medical world. Please also consider trying the full Bob Beck protocol, of which CS is only one step. Go to http://www.padrak.com/beck/index.shtml I hope that you have time... time to study before embarking on the trail of heavy drugs which so many are pushing. Glad that you've found CS! Wishes for good health, Dave -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS and HIV
In a message dated 00-05-03 10:55:59 EDT, you write: << Hey, Listers... I have been part of this list for a few months now. I have HIV, and I turned to CS to see what the effects would be for me. I went to get my results yesterday from my lab tests after using the CS since January. I talked to my doctor very briefly about CS. He's trying to warn me about the long term side effects. Then again, no one knows the long term effects of the HIV drugs, either. Anyway. My viral load the last time I was tested was at 22,000 copies per CC of blood, and my T-Cell count was at 598. This time my T-cell count was 594 and my viral load was at 16,000 copies per CC of blood. Not the changes I was expecting, by any means. It was a good sign that the viral load went down, but it was not as low as I was thinking the CS would get it to. The questions I am thinking of now...was the CS effective in slowly bringing my load down, or has my body hit a plateau for the time being, and is it successfully holding off the virus right now? I am not sure what to think or believe. I am not too concerned about the viral load right now, unless it gets up over 20,000 again. I should be fine until then because my T-Cell count is high. The next question isdo I just continue taking the CS, or do I begin taking the medications that will get my viral load down to undetectable? Kinda crazy. I am at a loss what to think or do right now. I am disapointed, but I have to continue the fight. Let me know what you think. >> Chad: Please tell us how the CS you're taking now was prepared, how often you take it and what the concertration is. Also, how long you've been taking CS in general and/or this particular CS prep? Do you have any more (blood?) data you can share with us? Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS and HIV
Hi Chad, I just read your message on the silver list and have a few of questions. How much CS are you taking, what is the PPM (roughly), and by what process is the CS made? I ask because we are doing some testing on people with Hepatitis C and are having good luck with CS as far as getting the live enzymes down and red blood cell counts back to normal. Yours in health, James Allison - Allisons Apothecary - Your On-Line Apothecary Visit Us Soon - http://allisonsapothecary.com Home of the $39.95 Colloidal Silver Generator And Wonderful Prices On Quality Products Like MSM, Ionic Mineral Waters and Apricot Kernels - - Original Message - From: Chad Powell To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 7:54 AM Subject: CS and HIV Hey, Listers... I have been part of this list for a few months now. I have HIV, and I turned to CS to see what the effects would be for me. I went to get my results yesterday from my lab tests after using the CS since January. I talked to my doctor very briefly about CS. He's trying to warn me about the long term side effects. Then again, no one knows the long term effects of the HIV drugs, either. Anyway. My viral load the last time I was tested was at 22,000 copies per CC of blood, and my T-Cell count was at 598. This time my T-cell count was 594 and my viral load was at 16,000 copies per CC of blood. Not the changes I was expecting, by any means. It was a good sign that the viral load went down, but it was not as low as I was thinking the CS would get it to. The questions I am thinking of now...was the CS effective in slowly bringing my load down, or has my body hit a plateau for the time being, and is it successfully holding off the virus right now? I am not sure what to think or believe. I am not too concerned about the viral load right now, unless it gets up over 20,000 again. I should be fine until then because my T-Cell count is high. The next question isdo I just continue taking the CS, or do I begin taking the medications that will get my viral load down to undetectable? Kinda crazy. I am at a loss what to think or do right now. I am disapointed, but I have to continue the fight. Let me know what you think. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
CS and HIV
Hey, Listers... I have been part of this list for a few months now. I have HIV, and I turned to CS to see what the effects would be for me. I went to get my results yesterday from my lab tests after using the CS since January. I talked to my doctor very briefly about CS. He's trying to warn me about the long term side effects. Then again, no one knows the long term effects of the HIV drugs, either. Anyway. My viral load the last time I was tested was at 22,000 copies per CC of blood, and my T-Cell count was at 598. This time my T-cell count was 594 and my viral load was at 16,000 copies per CC of blood. Not the changes I was expecting, by any means. It was a good sign that the viral load went down, but it was not as low as I was thinking the CS would get it to. The questions I am thinking of now...was the CS effective in slowly bringing my load down, or has my body hit a plateau for the time being, and is it successfully holding off the virus right now? I am not sure what to think or believe. I am not too concerned about the viral load right now, unless it gets up over 20,000 again. I should be fine until then because my T-Cell count is high. The next question isdo I just continue taking the CS, or do I begin taking the medications that will get my viral load down to undetectable? Kinda crazy. I am at a loss what to think or do right now. I am disapointed, but I have to continue the fight. Let me know what you think. Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
