Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage...
Jack, When I replied, I hadn't seen your reply, it had not arrived in my inbox at that time. That is one thing I do know about email, the time someone sends a message and the time it arrives somewhere else are wildly variable, and things often get out of order. What exactly was wrong with my reply (it was supposed to be a joke!) other than I missed yours? Since you think I need to learn to do replies better, why not help? paula - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com Hi paula, I think you need to put in a little time learning how to extract portions of previous posts before including extracts in your Replies. Yes, I did reply to Dan's query about TBS IIRC, but was it your intention to ignore my reply? *** -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but...
Pasteurization kills most, but not all the bacteria. That is why there is an expiration date on unopened milk, and it requires refrigeration. Super pasteurization kills more, and some things will have expiration dates months off if they have had this done. But neither is total sterilization. I do not know if the temperature and time used for pasteurization are sufficient to break down the antibodies or not. But I don't think it makes a lot of difference, what good would antibodies against bovine diseases have for a human anyway? Marshall colloidal.sil...@cox.net wrote: I'm confused about the statement, that the C.S. is going to kill off the friendly flora in the milk as well as the bad... Pasteurization initially kills them all... Correct ? Therefore, the natural mother cows antibodies friendly flora are long gone from the Mothers milk. Right ? --- If there is something I'm missing here, like for example, that the same good bacteria, that were all killed by the pasteurization, re-colonize the milk shortly after the pasteurization, and that the c.s. then kills them. Please let me know about this... Are you possibly talking about Acidophilus milk ? In that case, yes, it would be silly to add c.s. to either it or yogurt... --- Also, raw milk contains the natural mothers antibodies, so using c.s. with it is going to kill off the good and bad bacteria. I would think the idea would be to use c.s. with it so that you could get the benefits of the raw-milk enzymes amino acids etc... without worry of the deadly bacteria viruses that can crop up in Raw-Milk from time to time ! It's a good trade off... The loss of only the bacteria, but still having a living-food product, that has not been reduced to the typical dead-food-state, that most all of are foods are these days for the ever necessary gods of product shelf life extension --- I would never think of using the c.s. with the Acidophilus milk or yogurt. Rather, those I would consume only on a separate schedule in order to balance out my intestinal flora etc... Which I do by the way... :) Regards,Alexander - Original Message -From: James Holmes ami...@starband.netTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:52 PMSubject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... Yes, a little CS does stop spoilage of milk and cream. It also kills the bacteria that are responsible for about the only benefit drinking milk gives; replacing the friendly flora of the gut. JOH -Original Message- From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... At 10:06 AM 9/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: Gretings Alexander, As the only 1% milk user in my household, I purchase 1/2 gal at the time, use only on cereal about 3 days a week. It usually passes the Exp date while I still have almost a qt. My granddaddy's name was Burns (about as Scotch as you can get) I was raised during the Depression and learned to NOT WASTE anything; especially food. I added an ounce of 10-20ppm CS soon after opening the 1/2 gal it stays fresh until I use the last drop. Also, the City water lines were broken last year we were ordered to boil the city water to use safely. I filled 4 1 gal jugs, added 1 ounce CS, Was that 1 oz for the 4 gal. or 1oz per gal? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but...
I'm confused about the statement, that the C.S. is going to kill off the friendly flora in the milk as well as the bad... Pasteurization initially kills them all... Correct ? Therefore, the natural mother cows antibodies friendly flora are long gone from the Mothers milk. Right ? If there is something I'm missing here, like for example, that the same good bacteria, that were all killed by the pasteurization, re-colonize the milk shortly after the pasteurization, and that the c.s. then kills them. Please let me know about this... Are you possibly talking about Acidophilus milk ? In that case, yes, it would be silly to add c.s. to either it or yogurt... Also, raw milk contains the natural mothers antibodies, so using c.s. with it is going to kill off the good and bad bacteria. I would think the idea would be to use c.s. with it so that you could get the benefits of the raw-milk enzymes amino acids etc... without worry of the deadly bacteria viruses that can crop up in Raw-Milk from time to time ! It's a good trade off... The loss of only the bacteria, but still having a living-food product, that has not been reduced to the typical dead-food-state, that most all of are foods are these days for the ever necessary gods of product shelf life extension I would never think of using the c.s. with the Acidophilus milk or yogurt. Rather, those I would consume only on a separate schedule in order to balance out my intestinal flora etc... Which I do by the way... :) Regards, Alexander - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... Yes, a little CS does stop spoilage of milk and cream. It also kills the bacteria that are responsible for about the only benefit drinking milk gives; replacing the friendly flora of the gut. JOH -Original Message- From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... At 10:06 AM 9/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: Gretings Alexander, As the only 1% milk user in my household, I purchase 1/2 gal at the time, use only on cereal about 3 days a week. It usually passes the Exp date while I still have almost a qt. My granddaddy's name was Burns (about as Scotch as you can get) I was raised during the Depression and learned to NOT WASTE anything; especially food. I added an ounce of 10-20ppm CS soon after opening the 1/2 gal it stays fresh until I use the last drop. Also, the City water lines were broken last year we were ordered to boil the city water to use safely. I filled 4 1 gal jugs, added 1 ounce CS, Was that 1 oz for the 4 gal. or 1oz per gal? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but...
Hey folks, I agree 100 % here, but I been cheetin', as I was able to find a brand of 100% organic milk, that in addition, has no m.g.h., etc... what-so-ever ! Look around for the stuff before you give up on that there moo juice ! Hope this helps, Alexander - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 11:18 PM Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... Hello all, Yes, I agree with Bill about Notmilk.com. I do so much love chocolate malts. But I have not done one in a couple of years. Most of the unnaturally giant-titted adolescent girls that are cropping up are probably due to the fact that bovine hormones are similar (some structurally identical) to human. My dairy products consumption was cut by about 85% after perusing that site. JOH -Original Message- From: missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... Check out NotMilk.com before you start consuming any milk products. - Original Message - From: Charles Sutton cds...@earthlink.net To: James Holmes ami...@starband.net; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... The milk from the grocery store is dead. Killed by pasteurization. No good bugs at all. The best treatise on this is The Milk Book can't remember the author...list; who knows who wrote it? - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... Yes, a little CS does stop spoilage of milk and cream. It also kills the bacteria that are responsible for about the only benefit drinking milk gives; replacing the friendly flora of the gut. JOH -Original Message- From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... At 10:06 AM 9/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: Gretings Alexander, As the only 1% milk user in my household, I purchase 1/2 gal at the time, use only on cereal about 3 days a week. It usually passes the Exp date while I still have almost a qt. My granddaddy's name was Burns (about as Scotch as you can get) I was raised during the Depression and learned to NOT WASTE anything; especially food. I added an ounce of 10-20ppm CS soon after opening the 1/2 gal it stays fresh until I use the last drop. Also, the City water lines were broken last year we were ordered to boil the city water to use safely. I filled 4 1 gal jugs, added 1 ounce CS, Was that 1 oz for the 4 gal. or 1oz per gal? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage...
Hi paula, I think you need to put in a little time learning how to extract portions of previous posts before including extracts in your Replies. Yes, I did reply to Dan's query about TBS IIRC, but was it your intention to ignore my reply? *** sol 9/16/03 8:31 AM Wrote: Sorry, TBS = tablespoon (geez haven't you guys ever read a recipe?) and IIRC = If I Recall Correctly paula - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... Dan Nave 9/15/03 7:32 AM Wrote: Alright, What's a TBS and an IIRC? *** -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. -- Be Nice
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage...
Sorry, TBS = tablespoon (geez haven't you guys ever read a recipe?) and IIRC = If I Recall Correctly paula - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 4:50 PM Subject: Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... Dan Nave 9/15/03 7:32 AM Wrote: Alright, What's a TBS and an IIRC? *** -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but...
You can put good bugs back in milk...I don't drink milk per se...I buy organic whole milk and culture it to kefir drink it that way. Since I don't eat cereal, I can't think of any reason to drink uncultured milk myself. I'm not a calf after all...turn your milk into probiotic food by creating kefir. It tastes great is better for you than just plain cow milk. I do wait a few hours before taking CS, though...just to make sure the kefir's made it out of the stomach. Lots of good reading here: http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html Heather -Original Message- From: Charles Sutton [mailto:cds...@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:49 PM To: James Holmes; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... The milk from the grocery store is dead. Killed by pasteurization. No good bugs at all. The best treatise on this is The Milk Book can't remember the author...list; who knows who wrote it? - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage...
Sorry, I must know 1,000 acronyms. Just have to get onto the right page... Dan PS Never heard or IIRC before, though. Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... From: sol (view other messages by this author) Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 08:33:37 Sorry, TBS = tablespoon (geez haven't you guys ever read a recipe?) and IIRC = If I Recall Correctly paula -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage...
I think a TBS would do just as well, that is all I put into a quart of mild or cream and it has kept the contents fresh, IIRC up to a month past the sell by date (in the fridge). paula - Request to All... Will others please repeat this test up to point of spoilage at least... I'm getting suspicious that the C.S. will keep the half half spoilage free almost indefinitely ??? -- I will also begin test of Creamer with C.S. at room temperature... Regards to All, Alexander J. Federowicz Providence, Rhode Island
RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage...
Gretings Alexander, As the only 1% milk user in my household, I purchase 1/2 gal at the time, use only on cereal about 3 days a week. It usually passes the Exp date while I still have almost a qt. My granddaddy's name was Burns (about as Scotch as you can get) I was raised during the Depression and learned to NOT WASTE anything; especially food. I added an ounce of 10-20ppm CS soon after opening the 1/2 gal it stays fresh until I use the last drop. Also, the City water lines were broken last year we were ordered to boil the city water to use safely. I filled 4 1 gal jugs, added 1 ounce CS, turned over to mix we stayed well using this water until the City okayed a return to using City water. Good luck to you with your experiments--hope each one will continue to read, ask, learn share with the rest of us so we can become better informed more helpful to others who have problems in which we might be helpful. Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: sol [mailto:pcar...@wyoming.com] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:27 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... I think a TBS would do just as well, that is all I put into a quart of mild or cream and it has kept the contents fresh, IIRC up to a month past the sell by date (in the fridge). paula - Request to All... Will others please repeat this test up to point of spoilage at least... I'm getting suspicious that the C.S. will keep the half half spoilage free almost indefinitely ??? I will also begin test of Creamer with C.S. at room temperature... Regards to All, Alexander J. Federowicz Providence, Rhode Island
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage...
Alright, What's a TBS and an IIRC? Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... From: sol (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 06:37:18 I think a TBS would do just as well, that is all I put into a quart of mild or cream and it has kept the contents fresh, IIRC up to a month past the sell by date (in the fridge). paula -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage...
At 10:06 AM 9/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: Gretings Alexander, As the only 1% milk user in my household, I purchase 1/2 gal at the time, use only on cereal about 3 days a week. It usually passes the Exp date while I still have almost a qt. My granddaddy's name was Burns (about as Scotch as you can get) I was raised during the Depression and learned to NOT WASTE anything; especially food. I added an ounce of 10-20ppm CS soon after opening the 1/2 gal it stays fresh until I use the last drop. Also, the City water lines were broken last year we were ordered to boil the city water to use safely. I filled 4 1 gal jugs, added 1 ounce CS, Was that 1 oz for the 4 gal. or 1oz per gal? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but...
Yes, a little CS does stop spoilage of milk and cream. It also kills the bacteria that are responsible for about the only benefit drinking milk gives; replacing the friendly flora of the gut. JOH -Original Message- From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... At 10:06 AM 9/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: Gretings Alexander, As the only 1% milk user in my household, I purchase 1/2 gal at the time, use only on cereal about 3 days a week. It usually passes the Exp date while I still have almost a qt. My granddaddy's name was Burns (about as Scotch as you can get) I was raised during the Depression and learned to NOT WASTE anything; especially food. I added an ounce of 10-20ppm CS soon after opening the 1/2 gal it stays fresh until I use the last drop. Also, the City water lines were broken last year we were ordered to boil the city water to use safely. I filled 4 1 gal jugs, added 1 ounce CS, Was that 1 oz for the 4 gal. or 1oz per gal? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage...
1 oz to each gallon, but could be diluted into 4 gals I feel sure. Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist -Original Message- From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... At 10:06 AM 9/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: Gretings Alexander, As the only 1% milk user in my household, I purchase 1/2 gal at the time, use only on cereal about 3 days a week. It usually passes the Exp date while I still have almost a qt. My granddaddy's name was Burns (about as Scotch as you can get) I was raised during the Depression and learned to NOT WASTE anything; especially food. I added an ounce of 10-20ppm CS soon after opening the 1/2 gal it stays fresh until I use the last drop. Also, the City water lines were broken last year we were ordered to boil the city water to use safely. I filled 4 1 gal jugs, added 1 ounce CS, Was that 1 oz for the 4 gal. or 1oz per gal? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage...
Dan Nave 9/15/03 7:32 AM Wrote: Alright, What's a TBS and an IIRC? *** I can't even guess at IIRC, but TBS is probably tablespoon. Jack Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but...
James Holmes 9/15/03 2:52 PM Wrote: Yes, a little CS does stop spoilage of milk and cream. It also kills the bacteria that are responsible for about the only benefit drinking milk gives; replacing the friendly flora of the gut. JOH *** Some day there will be something firm about intestinal bacteria, but in the meanwhile we struggle to know what should be done and when. I thought that pasteurization killed off germs, and that was why milk with acidophilus was added. Jack Be Nice -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but...
The milk from the grocery store is dead. Killed by pasteurization. No good bugs at all. The best treatise on this is The Milk Book can't remember the author...list; who knows who wrote it? - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... Yes, a little CS does stop spoilage of milk and cream. It also kills the bacteria that are responsible for about the only benefit drinking milk gives; replacing the friendly flora of the gut. JOH -Original Message- From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... At 10:06 AM 9/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: Gretings Alexander, As the only 1% milk user in my household, I purchase 1/2 gal at the time, use only on cereal about 3 days a week. It usually passes the Exp date while I still have almost a qt. My granddaddy's name was Burns (about as Scotch as you can get) I was raised during the Depression and learned to NOT WASTE anything; especially food. I added an ounce of 10-20ppm CS soon after opening the 1/2 gal it stays fresh until I use the last drop. Also, the City water lines were broken last year we were ordered to boil the city water to use safely. I filled 4 1 gal jugs, added 1 ounce CS, Was that 1 oz for the 4 gal. or 1oz per gal? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but...
Check out NotMilk.com before you start consuming any milk products. - Original Message - From: Charles Sutton cds...@earthlink.net To: James Holmes ami...@starband.net; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... The milk from the grocery store is dead. Killed by pasteurization. No good bugs at all. The best treatise on this is The Milk Book can't remember the author...list; who knows who wrote it? - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... Yes, a little CS does stop spoilage of milk and cream. It also kills the bacteria that are responsible for about the only benefit drinking milk gives; replacing the friendly flora of the gut. JOH -Original Message- From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... At 10:06 AM 9/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: Gretings Alexander, As the only 1% milk user in my household, I purchase 1/2 gal at the time, use only on cereal about 3 days a week. It usually passes the Exp date while I still have almost a qt. My granddaddy's name was Burns (about as Scotch as you can get) I was raised during the Depression and learned to NOT WASTE anything; especially food. I added an ounce of 10-20ppm CS soon after opening the 1/2 gal it stays fresh until I use the last drop. Also, the City water lines were broken last year we were ordered to boil the city water to use safely. I filled 4 1 gal jugs, added 1 ounce CS, Was that 1 oz for the 4 gal. or 1oz per gal? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but...
Hello all, Yes, I agree with Bill about Notmilk.com. I do so much love chocolate malts. But I have not done one in a couple of years. Most of the unnaturally giant-titted adolescent girls that are cropping up are probably due to the fact that bovine hormones are similar (some structurally identical) to human. My dairy products consumption was cut by about 85% after perusing that site. JOH -Original Message- From: missett [mailto:miss...@prodigy.net.mx] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:39 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... Check out NotMilk.com before you start consuming any milk products. - Original Message - From: Charles Sutton cds...@earthlink.net To: James Holmes ami...@starband.net; silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 7:48 PM Subject: Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... The milk from the grocery store is dead. Killed by pasteurization. No good bugs at all. The best treatise on this is The Milk Book can't remember the author...list; who knows who wrote it? - Original Message - From: James Holmes ami...@starband.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage..Yes, but... Yes, a little CS does stop spoilage of milk and cream. It also kills the bacteria that are responsible for about the only benefit drinking milk gives; replacing the friendly flora of the gut. JOH -Original Message- From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx] Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 3:21 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage... At 10:06 AM 9/15/2003 -0400, you wrote: Gretings Alexander, As the only 1% milk user in my household, I purchase 1/2 gal at the time, use only on cereal about 3 days a week. It usually passes the Exp date while I still have almost a qt. My granddaddy's name was Burns (about as Scotch as you can get) I was raised during the Depression and learned to NOT WASTE anything; especially food. I added an ounce of 10-20ppm CS soon after opening the 1/2 gal it stays fresh until I use the last drop. Also, the City water lines were broken last year we were ordered to boil the city water to use safely. I filled 4 1 gal jugs, added 1 ounce CS, Was that 1 oz for the 4 gal. or 1oz per gal? -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage...
Hello All :) I am doing a simple test with the Half Half Creamer... Equipment: Using a Silvergen SG7 tuned at @ 25 PPM per 5 gal. batch... Half Half: Garlick Farms, Pasteurized, no additives, no preservatives brand, Dated use by August, 27, 2003... Common refrigerator at @ 36_f. 1. Produced the C.S. @ August,25,2003... 2. Purchased the Half Half on August, 24, 2003... 3. Added 1/2 cup of the C.S. to the full quart of half half on August, 26, 2003... Results so far: Creamer retains an absolutely fresh pleasant odor to present date ( Sept., 14, 2003 ). Taste remains absolutely fresh and pleasant to date. Absolutely no signs of spoilage / souring what so ever... Request to All... Will others please repeat this test up to point of spoilage at least... I'm getting suspicious that the C.S. will keep the half half spoilage free almost indefinitely ??? I will also begin test of Creamer with C.S. at room temperature... Regards to All, Alexander J. Federowicz Providence, Rhode Island
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage...
Dear Alexander, You said: 1. Produced the C.S. @ August,25,2003... 2. Purchased the Half Half on August, 24, 2003... 3. Added 1/2 cup of the C.S. to the full quart of half half on August, 26, 2003... Results so far: Creamer retains an absolutely fresh pleasant odor to present date ( Sept., 14, 2003 ). Taste remains absolutely fresh and pleasant to date. Absolutely no signs of spoilage / souring what so ever... ** Interesting stuff. I did something similat with a half gallon of my mother's skim milk. She was complaining that I bought her too big of bottle, stating that it seems to go sour on exactly the day of the expiration written on it so she would never be able to finish it by then. I added half an ounce of CS to the half gallon 2 days prior to the expiration date. The milk lasted through the next two weeks until she finished it. I don't know the potential for how long it would have been usable had she not consumed it. Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSC.S. and Coffee Creamer Half and Half Spoilage...
That's the kind of thing I'm looking for. Thanks a bunch, Alexander. At 09:07 AM 9/14/2003 -0400, you wrote: Hello All :) I am doing a simple test with the Half Half Creamer... Equipment: Using a Silvergen SG7 tuned at @ 25 PPM per 5 gal. batch... Half Half: Garlick Farms, Pasteurized, no additives, no preservatives brand, Dated use by August, 27, 2003... Common refrigerator at @ 36_f. -- 1. Produced the C.S. @ August,25,2003... 2. Purchased the Half Half on August, 24, 2003... 3. Added 1/2 cup of the C.S. to the full quart of half half on August, 26, 2003... Results so far: Creamer retains an absolutely fresh pleasant odor to present date ( Sept., 14, 2003 ). Taste remains absolutely fresh and pleasant to date. Absolutely no signs of spoilage / souring what so ever... Request to All... Will others please repeat this test up to point of spoilage at least... I'm getting suspicious that the C.S. will keep the half half spoilage free almost indefinitely ??? -- I will also begin test of Creamer with C.S. at room temperature... Regards to All, Alexander J. Federowicz Providence, Rhode Island -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
