Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Yes But you can also just use 12 volts and it'll work just fine..a bit slower and probably make better CS because of the slowdown. Ken At 11:54 PM 5/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: Just got my 12 VDC 1.5 watt Solar Panels from Harbor Freight. Could I connect 3 panels in series to produce 36 VDC? This would be a way to generate CS if the power was out or out camping. Brickey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels From: Ode Coyote Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 05:08:52 At 11:54 PM 5/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: Just got my 12 VDC 1.5 watt Solar Panels from Harbor Freight. Could I connect 3 panels in series to produce 36 VDC? This would be a way to generate CS if the power was out or out camping. Brickey Yes But you can also just use 12 volts and it'll work just fine..a bit slower and probably make better CS because of the slowdown. Ken It will work great! The reason is the initial resistance of dw is not constant with applied voltage. It decreases, so the initial current will still be enough to get the process started. Put a 33k to 75k in series to limit the current to ~200 uA per square inch of wetted surface. This is the ULVDC process (ULV for short). Run for 4 to 6 hrs and test with salt. Try it with an ordinary battery to verify. You will be very pleased with the results. The lower voltage gradient means the ion cloud at the cathode is not as concentrated. This reduces the probability the ions will form particles, and the particles that do form are smaller. So they don't coat the cathode with as much black crud, and don't fall to the bottom of the glass. The glass doesn't become coated with black stuff that you have to clean off, and less silver is wasted. More silver stays in solution, so it does a better job when you drink it. I sometimes get a faint straw color after several hours, but none of the stuff I've made has turned yellow and plated out. The stuff I made before was highly prone to plateout. More information should be posted soon. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Here is the over night, isn't good but it does work. Start new CS solar test 8:07 pm 0.8 1 hr 1.6 2 hr 1.9 Boy is it slow. 3 hr 2.2 but it is making CS 4 hr 2.6 not fast but going I went to bed 12 hr 5.0 put outside 8:25am 9:25 5.2 10:25 5.6 11:25 5.7 something isn't right 12:25 6.0 1:40 pm 6.4 I quit I will drink this and go to my 15vdc again We do know it will work. As Ole Bob will say I don't know what I have but I do know it is something. I don't care what it is as long as it helps me. hdka writes: Ok I couldn't wait till dark. I retested the D/W and got 0.08 on Hanna I guess the old glass had something in it. I have it set up where no outside light can get to it. It is 100 watt light bulb. I am going to test it every hour. PS: Brickey if the light is blinking it is putting out juice. Start new CS solar test 8:07 pm 0.08 1 hr Will post in one hr. hdka writes: Brickey, I have a qt of D/W tested at 0.05 on Hanna set up now, As soon as the sun goes down and it gets dark I will put the solar panel under a 100 watt light bulb and see what happens, Let you know tomorrow Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
I went all night and all day Start new CS solar test 8:07 pm 0.8 under 100 watt light bulb 1 hr 1.6 2 hr 1.9 Boy is it slow. 3 hr 2.2 but it is making CS 4 hr 2.6 not fast but going I went to sleep 12 hr 5.0 put outside 8:25am but in the shade. 9:25 am 5.2 10:25 5.6 11:25 5.7 don't know why only .1 advance, maybe I didn't have it plugged up right. 12:25 pm 6.0 1:40 pm 6.4 I quit I will drink this and go to my 15vdc again 7:45 pm 7.2 stopped, Clear, no flakes, very light tydall in dark room. Mike Monett writes: Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels From: Ode Coyote Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 05:08:52 At 11:54 PM 5/10/2003 -0400, you wrote: Just got my 12 VDC 1.5 watt Solar Panels from Harbor Freight. Could I connect 3 panels in series to produce 36 VDC? This would be a way to generate CS if the power was out or out camping. Brickey Yes But you can also just use 12 volts and it'll work just fine..a bit slower and probably make better CS because of the slowdown. Ken It will work great! The reason is the initial resistance of dw is not constant with applied voltage. It decreases, so the initial current will still be enough to get the process started. Put a 33k to 75k in series to limit the current to ~200 uA per square inch of wetted surface. This is the ULVDC process (ULV for short). Run for 4 to 6 hrs and test with salt. Try it with an ordinary battery to verify. You will be very pleased with the results. The lower voltage gradient means the ion cloud at the cathode is not as concentrated. This reduces the probability the ions will form particles, and the particles that do form are smaller. So they don't coat the cathode with as much black crud, and don't fall to the bottom of the glass. The glass doesn't become coated with black stuff that you have to clean off, and less silver is wasted. More silver stays in solution, so it does a better job when you drink it. I sometimes get a faint straw color after several hours, but none of the stuff I've made has turned yellow and plated out. The stuff I made before was highly prone to plateout. More information should be posted soon. Best Regards, Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels From: hdka (view other messages by this author) Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 18:48:15 I went all night and all day Start new CS solar test I did some research on solar panels. They only produce their rated output at noon, at summer solstice on a clear day, at the equator, with the panel facing the sun, with the surface of the panel cleaned with isopropyl alcohol, during a sunspot maximum, and only on the first day after purchase. The output quickly degrades if any of these conditions are not met. For typical 12 ga 4 rods and an 8 oz glass, get a 9V battery and put a 22k in series. You can stick this in your pocket, and a new battery should last for a long, long time. It will make your cs while you sleep. Mike Monett -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Yes. Just make sure they are all illuminated. If one of them is in shadow, you will get no output. --Steve Y. By the way, your panels are way overkill, and you still should use a current limiting device. Production of CS only takes 1 ma x a few volts = just a few milliwatts. You can use your panels to charge 9 volt nicads so you can make CS at night as well! --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: brick...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 9:54 PM Subject: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels Just got my 12 VDC 1.5 watt Solar Panels from Harbor Freight. Could I connect 3 panels in series to produce 36 VDC? This would be a way to generate CS if the power was out or out camping. Brickey -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Brickey, I received my solar panel a few days ago, I made a batch of CS, just run the panel to the wire, the panel was setting inside where the sun didn't shine, I got a reading of 16.4 on the hanna with a light gold color CS, Sorry I don't know how long it run. You only need one panel and it can be used on a cloudy day I do know that I put the solar panel under a 100 watt light bulb and it works, So forget the statement of it being in the shadow. S J Young writes: Yes. Just make sure they are all illuminated. If one of them is in shadow, you will get no output. --Steve Y. By the way, your panels are way overkill, and you still should use a current limiting device. Production of CS only takes 1 ma x a few volts = just a few milliwatts. You can use your panels to charge 9 volt nicads so you can make CS at night as well! --Steve Y. - Original Message - From: brick...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 10, 2003 9:54 PM Subject: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels Just got my 12 VDC 1.5 watt Solar Panels from Harbor Freight. Could I connect 3 panels in series to produce 36 VDC? This would be a way to generate CS if the power was out or out camping. Brickey Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Brickey, I have a qt of D/W tested at 0.05 on Hanna set up now, As soon as the sun goes down and it gets dark I will put the solar panel under a 100 watt light bulb and see what happens, Let you know tomorrow. Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
I hate Myecom.net mail but it is free. I don't know if this was sent or not so am resending. Love ya'll BR Hank BR BTY ole bob and some others will say I don't know what I have (as I haven't had it tested by them). I don't care I do know I will have some CS, Some is better than none right? You can't beat the price for two silver wires and a solar panel. Love you all. BR BR hdka writes: BR BR BR Brickey, I have a qt of D/W tested at 0.05 on Hanna set up now, As soon as BR the sun goes down and it gets dark I will put the solar panel under a 100 BR watt light bulb and see what happens, Let you know tomorrow. BR BR Sincerely Yours, Hank. BR Very Interesting Sites BR http://www.babelmagazine.com BR http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html BR http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html BR http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html BR http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html BR http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html BR
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Ok I couldn't wait till dark. I retested the D/W and got 0.08 on Hanna I guess the old glass had something in it. I have it set up where no outside light can get to it. It is 100 watt light bulb. I am going to test it every hour. PS: Brickey if the light is blinking it is putting out juice. Start new CS solar test 8:07 pm 0.08 1 hr Will post in one hr. hdka writes: Brickey, I have a qt of D/W tested at 0.05 on Hanna set up now, As soon as the sun goes down and it gets dark I will put the solar panel under a 100 watt light bulb and see what happens, Let you know tomorrow. Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Okay it has been one hour and I now have 1.6 on the Hanna. It was .8 not .08 to start. the #12 wire is 1 1/2 in apart 4 1/2 wet. I'll post again in one hr. hdka writes: Ok I couldn't wait till dark. I retested the D/W and got 0.08 on Hanna I guess the old glass had something in it. I have it set up where no outside light can get to it. It is 100 watt light bulb. I am going to test it every hour. PS: Brickey if the light is blinking it is putting out juice. Start new CS solar test 8:07 pm 0.08 1 hr Will post in one hr. hdka writes: Brickey, I have a qt of D/W tested at 0.05 on Hanna set up now, As soon as the sun goes down and it gets dark I will put the solar panel under a 100 watt light bulb and see what happens, Let you know tomorrow. Sincerely Yours, Hank. Very Interesting Sites http://www.babelmagazine.com http://hdka.stormpages.com/indexf.html http://www.babelmagazine.com/wing.html http://members.myecom.net/hdka/ct/ct.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/911.html http://www.idownline.com/sites/hdka/investigation77.html Now MyECom FreeMail gives you what you've been asking for. More storage space (10MB), large attachments that get delivered, WEB, IMAP, POP3 and SMTP access at no extra charge, Calendar, spell checker, mail filtering and auto-responders. http://freemail.myecom.net -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS Generation with Solar Panels
Just got my 12 VDC 1.5 watt Solar Panels from Harbor Freight. Could I connect 3 panels in series to produce 36 VDC? This would be a way to generate CS if the power was out or out camping. Brickey
