Re: CSCS for Eye Infections
From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 16:07:05 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS for Eye Infections Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 14:07:21 -0700 Honestly, I don't think CS ever killed anyone, unless they fell into a large tank and drowned. Maybe you have some information we have missed. ** Hi Wayne, I don't have the faintest idea as to how to find either of those sites again, if I could remember I would have returned and reread both. At time I had on plan on using a nebulizer, or I'm sure I would have paid more attention. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS for Eye Infections
Since the DMSO is so rapidly distributed throughout the tissues of the entire body, it seems that it would pass out of the membranes as easily as it passes in, and balance the osmotic pressure rapidly, rather than build up in any one area. I am also curious about the solvent effect on the vitreous and aqueous humors. In the animal studies with large long-term doses, the negative effects were in the eye. I think it was the lens that was affected. I am going to write the Jacobsons (? is that their name) and see what they have to say. Perhaps BB will drop by with something. Another subject: I am also trying to track down someone who does particle sizing with one of those new machines. They sell for about 50K. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 5:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS for Eye Infections Without research I would be concerned about osmotic pressures. The eye is very sensitive to excessive pressure, which could cause blindness. If DMSO were to be absorbed into the eye, I would expect a rather sudden, and possibly excessive pressure increase. I could be wrong, but without any information to the contrary I would be concerned. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Hello Jack, What is your reason for not wanting to use DMSO in the eyes? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 4:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS for Eye Infections From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com Subject: CSCS for Eye Infections Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:25:31 -0700 Now a close friend and neighbor has severe eye infections from time to time. Should I suggest CS without any additives or maybe add some DMSO? Wayne, I sure wouldn't use DMSO in the eyes - it's OK for carrying CS through the skin or maybe a small amount mixed into the CS for fighting an infection in the lungs. Of course I believe he needs to be working on the immune system, but CS will help that as well. I sure agree with you about strengthening the immune system as a way to avoid many nuisance, or worse, problems. I have never had an eye infection or sty or cold sore, and I attribute this to a very active immune system. Any suggestion appreciated. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for Eye Infections
Evening Jack, It helped, so I decided to try CS, then I read in two places about potential unwanted side effects up to and including death. Can you tell us where you read this, or give us a link. So I have become somewhat cautious about what I use CS for and I guess that caution manifested itself when I responded to that post. Of course wise people use caution in every thing we do. I use more caution in most every act of life than I do relative to CS use. Honestly, I don't think CS ever killed anyone, unless they fell into a large tank and drowned. Maybe you have some information we have missed. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for Eye Infections
From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 21:16:39 -0600 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS for Eye Infections Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 20:18:46 -0700 You wrote: ..., so I decided to try CS, then I read in two places about potential unwanted side effects up to and including death. Where did you read that? Sorry Jim, if I could have remembered I would have included the source. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for Eye Infections
THIS comment was very intersting to me, as I have noticed on several occasions after using CS orally (for dental reasons) and after ingesting CS, I sometimes see black, gnat-like specks in my field of vision when moving my eyes. I am not positive whether this is in one eye only or both. A similar effect sometimes occurs of seeing bubbles before my eyes. Very odd, and clearly related to CS ingestion. I have no idea what causes this but will investigate. The effect rarely lasts longer than 10-15 minutes and does not return unless I ingest CS again. It would seem that SOMEHOW CS is directly influencing the transmission of optical information directly, rather than getting into the vitreous humor and causing an optical illusion of the kind produced by vitreous floaters, given the transcience of the effect. Any ideas from any opthamologists online? JBB James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Since the DMSO is so rapidly distributed throughout the tissues of the entire body, it seems that it would pass out of the membranes as easily as it passes in, and balance the osmotic pressure rapidly, rather than build up in any one area. I am also curious about the solvent effect on the vitreous and aqueous humors. In the animal studies with large long-term doses, the negative effects were in the eye. I think it was the lens that was affected. I am going to write the Jacobsons (? is that their name) and see what they have to say. Perhaps BB will drop by with something. Another subject: I am also trying to track down someone who does particle sizing with one of those new machines. They sell for about 50K. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 5:29 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS for Eye Infections Without research I would be concerned about osmotic pressures. The eye is very sensitive to excessive pressure, which could cause blindness. If DMSO were to be absorbed into the eye, I would expect a rather sudden, and possibly excessive pressure increase. I could be wrong, but without any information to the contrary I would be concerned. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Hello Jack, What is your reason for not wanting to use DMSO in the eyes? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 4:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS for Eye Infections From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com Subject: CSCS for Eye Infections Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:25:31 -0700 Now a close friend and neighbor has severe eye infections from time to time. Should I suggest CS without any additives or maybe add some DMSO? Wayne, I sure wouldn't use DMSO in the eyes - it's OK for carrying CS through the skin or maybe a small amount mixed into the CS for fighting an infection in the lungs. Of course I believe he needs to be working on the immune system, but CS will help that as well. I sure agree with you about strengthening the immune system as a way to avoid many nuisance, or worse, problems. I have never had an eye infection or sty or cold sore, and I attribute this to a very active immune system. Any suggestion appreciated. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS for Eye Infections
Many people have eye infections which I consider a failure of the immune system. One friend used some CS I made that was nearly a year old to stop his infection overnight. I have never had an eye infection in my lifetime. Now a close friend and neighbor has severe eye infections from time to time. Should I suggest CS without any additives or maybe add some DMSO? Of course I believe he needs to be working on the immune system, but CS will help that as well. Any suggestion appreciated. Wayne -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for Eye Infections
From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com Subject: CSCS for Eye Infections Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:25:31 -0700 Now a close friend and neighbor has severe eye infections from time to time. Should I suggest CS without any additives or maybe add some DMSO? Wayne, I sure wouldn't use DMSO in the eyes - it's OK for carrying CS through the skin or maybe a small amount mixed into the CS for fighting an infection in the lungs. Of course I believe he needs to be working on the immune system, but CS will help that as well. I sure agree with you about strengthening the immune system as a way to avoid many nuisance, or worse, problems. I have never had an eye infection or sty or cold sore, and I attribute this to a very active immune system. Any suggestion appreciated. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for Eye Infections
Without research I would be concerned about osmotic pressures. The eye is very sensitive to excessive pressure, which could cause blindness. If DMSO were to be absorbed into the eye, I would expect a rather sudden, and possibly excessive pressure increase. I could be wrong, but without any information to the contrary I would be concerned. Marshall James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Hello Jack, What is your reason for not wanting to use DMSO in the eyes? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 4:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS for Eye Infections From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com Subject: CSCS for Eye Infections Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:25:31 -0700 Now a close friend and neighbor has severe eye infections from time to time. Should I suggest CS without any additives or maybe add some DMSO? Wayne, I sure wouldn't use DMSO in the eyes - it's OK for carrying CS through the skin or maybe a small amount mixed into the CS for fighting an infection in the lungs. Of course I believe he needs to be working on the immune system, but CS will help that as well. I sure agree with you about strengthening the immune system as a way to avoid many nuisance, or worse, problems. I have never had an eye infection or sty or cold sore, and I attribute this to a very active immune system. Any suggestion appreciated. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS for Eye Infections
Hello Jack, What is your reason for not wanting to use DMSO in the eyes? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 4:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS for Eye Infections From: Wayne Fugitt wa...@fugitt.com Subject: CSCS for Eye Infections Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 08:25:31 -0700 Now a close friend and neighbor has severe eye infections from time to time. Should I suggest CS without any additives or maybe add some DMSO? Wayne, I sure wouldn't use DMSO in the eyes - it's OK for carrying CS through the skin or maybe a small amount mixed into the CS for fighting an infection in the lungs. Of course I believe he needs to be working on the immune system, but CS will help that as well. I sure agree with you about strengthening the immune system as a way to avoid many nuisance, or worse, problems. I have never had an eye infection or sty or cold sore, and I attribute this to a very active immune system. Any suggestion appreciated. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS for Eye Infections
From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:39:48 -0600 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS for Eye Infections Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 17:42:00 -0700 What is your reason for not wanting to use DMSO in the eyes? Well I guess it is due to DMSO's other uses, somehow the idea of putting a solvent in my eyes seems like a no no. I have never read any thing about that application, so if I'm in error, please explain. I got a nebulizer about a month ago with the idea of using it to get CS into my lungs to help fight a lowgrade infection that I have had ABx prescribed for. It helped, so I decided to try CS, then I read in two places about potential unwanted side effects up to and including death. So I have become somewhat cautious about what I use CS for and I guess that caution manifested itself when I responded to that post. If I gave out bad info, it was a kind that would cause no harm. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSCS for Eye Infections
I don't know, that is why I asked. I understand that DMSO very quickly is distributed throughout the body. For a lot of useful info on DMSO see: http://www.dmso.org/ You wrote: ..., so I decided to try CS, then I read in two places about potential unwanted side effects up to and including death. Where did you read that? James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Friday, September 13, 2002 7:48 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCS for Eye Infections From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@cybermesa.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:39:48 -0600 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSCS for Eye Infections Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 17:42:00 -0700 What is your reason for not wanting to use DMSO in the eyes? Well I guess it is due to DMSO's other uses, somehow the idea of putting a solvent in my eyes seems like a no no. I have never read any thing about that application, so if I'm in error, please explain. I got a nebulizer about a month ago with the idea of using it to get CS into my lungs to help fight a lowgrade infection that I have had ABx prescribed for. It helped, so I decided to try CS, then I read in two places about potential unwanted side effects up to and including death. So I have become somewhat cautious about what I use CS for and I guess that caution manifested itself when I responded to that post. If I gave out bad info, it was a kind that would cause no harm. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
