Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-09 Thread asifnathekar
There is double distilled available easily via eBay.
Although I haven't ever found any in a retail store.
Lots of demin available for kettles and car purposes
Best way to go is a distiller. Even then double distill.

Even when I have started off with RO water .. I have still had to double 
distill.


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 Original message 
From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org
Date: 09/04/2015  08:56  (GMT+00:00)
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

I am in the UK and there are many outlets you can buy distilled water from 
online as I used to.  I now make my own with an OdeV counter top distiller, so 
I don’t know why they think there isn’t any available here.  You can’t buy it 
in big sizes in the supermarkets though….dee


 On 9 Apr 2015, at 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a 
 person in the UK wants to make some EIS.  Apparently the only water available 
 in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making 
 EIS?

 I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps.

 I don't think a home distiller is an option here either.

 Thanks

 N.


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Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-09 Thread John Popelish

On 04/09/2015 11:01 AM, Reece Maxey wrote:

Or just take some CS from your last batch to pollute
the distilled water. That should start current flow. Opa


Certainly. That will work for every batch but the first.

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Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-09 Thread Reece Maxey
Lived twice in a residential compound in Riyadh that had a central RO unit for 
the potable
water source. All we knew is that the water didn't smell or make us sick. It 
hard to imagine 
Distilled water would have to be order. 5 minutes from Wal mart and distilled 
water. Thankful!

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 On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:03 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Kirsteen, and Thank You to everyone else also.
 
 I checked this one out and it appears to be the only one so far that 
 advertises DW without it's been through several purification processes.  Most 
 go through several purification processes, including Revers Osmosis, and this 
 would make the water too pure for electrolysis to start, it would add hours 
 and hours and hours to the brewing process.  I have forwarded this one on to 
 the person concerned.
 
 Thanks again for all your help everyone.
 
 N.
 
 Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:48:40 +0100
 Subject: Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
 From: kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 The Distilled water co. sells both distilled and demineralized. You just 
 order which you want
 
 cheers 
 Kirsteen
 
 On 9 Apr 2015 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
 I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a 
 person in the UK wants to make some EIS.  Apparently the only water available 
 in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making 
 EIS?
 
 I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps.
 
 I don't think a home distiller is an option here either.
 
 Thanks
 
 N.


Re: Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-09 Thread 2Words

That's 12 hours running the machine for one gallon. Or maybe 1.5 liters.

Thinking out loud here - but I see your point and point taken.

Joy

On 4/9/2015 10:07 AM, asifnathekar wrote:

There is double distilled available easily via eBay.
Although I haven't ever found any in a retail store.
Lots of demin available for kettles and car purposes
Best way to go is a distiller. Even then double distill.

Even when I have started off with RO water .. I have still had to 
double distill.



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Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-09 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I am in the UK and there are many outlets you can buy distilled water from 
online as I used to.  I now make my own with an OdeV counter top distiller, so 
I don’t know why they think there isn’t any available here.  You can’t buy it 
in big sizes in the supermarkets though….dee


 On 9 Apr 2015, at 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a 
 person in the UK wants to make some EIS.  Apparently the only water available 
 in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making 
 EIS?
 
 I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps.
 
 I don't think a home distiller is an option here either.
 
 Thanks
 
 N.


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Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-09 Thread sand27144
Can you please tell me if Kangen water is better than/as good as distilled or 
Reverse Osmosis water?

Also, Is the Silver Puppy better than the Silver Edge colloidal silver 
generator?

Thank you,

Jo

 On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 11:49:57 -0300 John 
Popelishlt;jpopel...@gmail.comgt; wrote  

On 04/09/2015 10:03 AM, Neville wrote: 
gt; Thanks Kirsteen, and Thank You to everyone else also. 
gt; 
gt; I checked this one out and it appears to be the only one 
gt; so far that advertises DW without it's been through 
gt; several purification processes. Most go through several 
gt; purification processes, including Revers Osmosis, and 
gt; this would make the water too pure for electrolysis to 
gt; start, it would add hours and hours and hours to the 
gt; brewing process. I have forwarded this one on to the 
gt; person concerned. 
gt; 
gt; Thanks again for all your help everyone. 
 
Reverse osmosis is less effective at removing atomic sized 
contamination than distilling is. RO is just forcing water 
through a filter that has very small holes. But the holes 
are not perfectly uniform, so they only reduce the amount of 
contamination, being more effective for large stuff, like 
bacteria, virus particles and large organic molecules. They 
do a pretty good job of removing metals and halogens, but 
they are not perfect. RO is sometimes used as a 
pretreatment before distillation, to keep the still cleaner. 
 
And if you start with very pure water that is not conductive 
enough, a few minutes exposure to air will contaminate it 
with carbon dioxide enough to make silver water. Or you 
could just dip the tip of your finger in it, 
and that will do it. 
 
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Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-09 Thread Reece Maxey
Or just take some CS from your last batch to pollute the distilled water. 
That should start current flow.
Opa

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 On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:49 AM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 04/09/2015 10:03 AM, Neville wrote:
 Thanks Kirsteen, and Thank You to everyone else also.
 
 I checked this one out and it appears to be the only one
 so far that advertises DW without it's been through
 several purification processes.  Most go through several
 purification processes, including Revers Osmosis, and
 this would make the water too pure for electrolysis to
 start, it would add hours and hours and hours to the
 brewing process. I have forwarded this one on to the
 person concerned.
 
 Thanks again for all your help everyone.
 
 Reverse osmosis is less effective at removing atomic sized
 contamination than distilling is.  RO is just forcing water
 through a filter that has very small holes.  But the holes
 are not perfectly uniform, so they only reduce the amount of
 contamination, being more effective for large stuff, like
 bacteria, virus particles and large organic molecules.  They
 do a pretty good job of removing metals and halogens, but
 they are not perfect.  RO is sometimes used as a pretreatment before 
 distillation, to keep the still cleaner.
 
 And if you start with very pure water that is not conductive
 enough, a few minutes exposure to air will contaminate it
 with carbon dioxide enough to make silver water.  Or you
 could just dip the tip of your finger in it,
 and that will do it.
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 
 John Popelish
 
 
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Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-09 Thread John Popelish

On 04/09/2015 10:03 AM, Neville wrote:

Thanks Kirsteen, and Thank You to everyone else also.

I checked this one out and it appears to be the only one
so far that advertises DW without it's been through
several purification processes.  Most go through several
 purification processes, including Revers Osmosis, and
this would make the water too pure for electrolysis to
start, it would add hours and hours and hours to the
brewing process. I have forwarded this one on to the
person concerned.

Thanks again for all your help everyone.


Reverse osmosis is less effective at removing atomic sized
contamination than distilling is.  RO is just forcing water
through a filter that has very small holes.  But the holes
are not perfectly uniform, so they only reduce the amount of
contamination, being more effective for large stuff, like
bacteria, virus particles and large organic molecules.  They
do a pretty good job of removing metals and halogens, but
they are not perfect.  RO is sometimes used as a 
pretreatment before distillation, to keep the still cleaner.


And if you start with very pure water that is not conductive
enough, a few minutes exposure to air will contaminate it
with carbon dioxide enough to make silver water.  Or you
could just dip the tip of your finger in it,
and that will do it.

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John Popelish


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Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-09 Thread John Popelish

On 04/09/2015 11:22 AM, sand27144 wrote:

Can you please tell me if Kangen water is better than/as
 good as distilled or Reverse Osmosis water?

Also, Is the Silver Puppy better than the Silver Edge
colloidal silver generator?


As I understand it, Kangen water is just bout the opposite
of distilled water. It is alkaline and very conductive.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_ionizer

DM water is a lot closer to distilled from the standpoint of
making silver water. It is made by passing water through a
filter filled with resin beads that replace metal ions
(cations) with hydrogen ions and halogen ions (anions) with
hydroxyl ions. Then the hydrogen and hydroxyl ions combine
to make water. They don't remove insoluble particles or
bacteria, but those are no problem for silver water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purified_water

If you use a DM filter, you should probably also have a
conductivity or salt concentration meter, to test the water
after you filter it, to see when the resin beads have been
saturated and are no longer working. When this happens, the
conductivity reading will rise significantly, compared to
the result when the filter was new.

I can't give you the benefit of experience on the two silver
generators, because I make my own.

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Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-09 Thread asifnathekar
Please see answers below


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 Original message 
From: Neville one.red...@hotmail.com 
Date: 09/04/2015  02:27  (GMT+00:00) 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: RE: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water? 
 
I'll reply to you Asif, and is also a reply to you Nenah, Thanks.

I did some googling before asking the question but the mistake I made when 
asking the question here was listing those as separate entities.  Several 
suppliers I googled in the UK have DW in large print on the label - but - in 
fine print below it also states Demin and Deionised, in other words the water 
is all three?

* I think they mean. It was demin/ro to start with and then distilled.*

I'd be thinking if it's listed as all three, i.e. 
Distilled-Demineralised-Deionised it would then be produced using RO would it 
not?  RO removes everything from the water doesn't it?  Why would they list it 
as Distilled *and* Demineralised *and* Deionised on the same label and not just 
list it as RO water on the label?

Sorry for the questions but am trying to help someone out here.  DW apparently 
is not available in the UK, well not as I know it as available in Supermarkets 
here in Australia, and with DW printed on the label only, in the UK it 
seemingly always incorporates the other two.  If this is the case, is this 
water OK for making EIS?  I'm thinking it would be OK, but RO water may take a 
week to become conductive enough for electrolysis to occur, if you get my 
drift.  I mean there has to be some impurities in the water for electrolysis 
to happen.

I suggested the individual get Pure water from a Supermarket or chemist shop, 
so Asif, Pure water IS available in chemist shops in the UK?  Yes/No?  Or is it 
the Distilled+Demineralised+Deionised water they use, the same which can be 
bought at...Halfords is it?

*pure water is similar to water for injections which is usually just demin or 
RO... I looked into this to avoid having to distill and also for alternatives 
to distill ing when abroad*


Perhaps this is why I see this water as being so expensive in the UK, it's 
actually RO water and not just Distilled *or* Demineralised *or* Deionised.  We 
can buy Distilled and/or Demin water here as separate products {never seen 
Deionised though}.  I'd be thinking RO water would constitute all three?

Perhaps if the aforesaid water is no good, and this individual wishes to get 
involved with EIS, a home distiller is the only option?

*double distilled water is easily available on eBay here with out issue. 
Delivered of course... But it is expensive Best to buy a distiller*

N.



Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 01:16:18 +0100
Subject: Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
From: asifnathe...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

I've only  been successful with double distilled in the UK
Demin and ro  not worked at all
On 9 Apr 2015 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a 
person in the UK wants to make some EIS.  Apparently the only water available 
in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS?

I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps.

I don't think a home distiller is an option here either.

Thanks

N.

Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-09 Thread Kirsteen Wright
The Distilled water co. sells both distilled and demineralized. You just
order which you want

cheers
Kirsteen
On 9 Apr 2015 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a
 person in the UK wants to make some EIS.  Apparently the only water
 available in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water
 for making EIS?

 I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch
 perhaps.

 I don't think a home distiller is an option here either.

 Thanks

 N.



RE: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-09 Thread Neville
Thanks Kirsteen, and Thank You to everyone else also.
I checked this one out and it appears to be the only one so far that advertises 
DW without it's been through several purification processes.  Most go through 
several purification processes, including Revers Osmosis, and this would make 
the water too pure for electrolysis to start, it would add hours and hours and 
hours to the brewing process.  I have forwarded this one on to the person 
concerned.
Thanks again for all your help everyone.
N.

Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:48:40 +0100
Subject: Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
From: kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com

The Distilled water co. sells both distilled and demineralized. You just order 
which you want
cheers 

Kirsteen 
On 9 Apr 2015 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:



I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a 
person in the UK wants to make some EIS.  Apparently the only water available 
in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS?
I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps.
I don't think a home distiller is an option here either.

Thanks
N.
  

Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-09 Thread Kenneth Taylor
Interesting. 

We use demineralized (DI)  water at work. It is made using hydrochloric acid 
and caustic, essentially a chemical process.

Distilled water is the same (demineralized), it's just 'made' differently, 
using heat to 'evaporate' and seperate minerals from the water. 


Kenneth

Karen is Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise

From:Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com
Date:Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:50
Subject:Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

The Distilled water co. sells both distilled and demineralized. You just order 
which you want

cheers 
Kirsteen 

On 9 Apr 2015 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:

I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a 
person in the UK wants to make some EIS.  Apparently the only water available 
in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS?


I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps.


I don't think a home distiller is an option here either.


Thanks


N.

 



CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-08 Thread Neville
I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a 
person in the UK wants to make some EIS.  Apparently the only water available 
in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS?
I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps.
I don't think a home distiller is an option here either.

Thanks
N.

RE: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-08 Thread Neville



I'll reply to you Asif, and is also a reply to you Nenah, Thanks.
I did some googling before asking the question but the mistake I made when 
asking the question here was listing those as separate entities.  Several 
suppliers I googled in the UK have DW in large print on the label - but - in 
fine print below it also states Demin and Deionised, in other words the water 
is all three?
I'd be thinking if it's listed as all three, i.e. 
Distilled-Demineralised-Deionised it would then be produced using RO would it 
not?  RO removes everything from the water doesn't it?  Why would they list it 
as Distilled *and* Demineralised *and* Deionised on the same label and not just 
list it as RO water on the label?
Sorry for the questions but am trying to help someone out here.  DW apparently 
is not available in the UK, well not as I know it as available in Supermarkets 
here in Australia, and with DW printed on the label only, in the UK it 
seemingly always incorporates the other two.  If this is the case, is this 
water OK for making EIS?  I'm thinking it would be OK, but RO water may take a 
week to become conductive enough for electrolysis to occur, if you get my 
drift.  I mean there has to be some impurities in the water for electrolysis 
to happen.
I suggested the individual get Pure water from a Supermarket or chemist shop, 
so Asif, Pure water IS available in chemist shops in the UK?  Yes/No?  Or is it 
the Distilled+Demineralised+Deionised water they use, the same which can be 
bought at...Halfords is it?
Perhaps this is why I see this water as being so expensive in the UK, it's 
actually RO water and not just Distilled *or* Demineralised *or* Deionised.  We 
can buy Distilled and/or Demin water here as separate products {never seen 
Deionised though}.  I'd be thinking RO water would constitute all three?
Perhaps if the aforesaid water is no good, and this individual wishes to get 
involved with EIS, a home distiller is the only option?
N.


Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 01:16:18 +0100
Subject: Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
From: asifnathe...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com






I've only  been successful with double distilled in the UK

Demin and ro  not worked at all
On 9 Apr 2015 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:




I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a 
person in the UK wants to make some EIS.  Apparently the only water available 
in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS?



I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps.



I don't think a home distiller is an option here either.




Thanks



N.



  

RE: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-08 Thread Nenah Sylver
It sounds as though de-ionized is the same thing as distilled. Distilled
water does not contain any minerals, so there is no ionic activity across
the cell membrane.

 

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From: Neville [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 4:11 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

 

I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a
person in the UK wants to make some EIS.  Apparently the only water
available in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water
for making EIS?

 

I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch
perhaps.

 

I don't think a home distiller is an option here either.

 

Thanks

 

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Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?

2015-04-08 Thread asif nathekar
I've only  been successful with double distilled in the UK
Demin and ro  not worked at all

On 9 Apr 2015 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote:
I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a 
person in the UK wants to make some EIS.  Apparently the only water available 
in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS?
I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps.
I don't think a home distiller is an option here either.

Thanks
N.