Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
There is double distilled available easily via eBay. Although I haven't ever found any in a retail store. Lots of demin available for kettles and car purposes Best way to go is a distiller. Even then double distill. Even when I have started off with RO water .. I have still had to double distill. Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick d...@deetroy.org Date: 09/04/2015 08:56 (GMT+00:00) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water? I am in the UK and there are many outlets you can buy distilled water from online as I used to. I now make my own with an OdeV counter top distiller, so I don’t know why they think there isn’t any available here. You can’t buy it in big sizes in the supermarkets though….dee On 9 Apr 2015, at 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a person in the UK wants to make some EIS. Apparently the only water available in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS? I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps. I don't think a home distiller is an option here either. Thanks N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=subscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
On 04/09/2015 11:01 AM, Reece Maxey wrote: Or just take some CS from your last batch to pollute the distilled water. That should start current flow. Opa Certainly. That will work for every batch but the first. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
Lived twice in a residential compound in Riyadh that had a central RO unit for the potable water source. All we knew is that the water didn't smell or make us sick. It hard to imagine Distilled water would have to be order. 5 minutes from Wal mart and distilled water. Thankful! Sent from my iPad On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:03 AM, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: Thanks Kirsteen, and Thank You to everyone else also. I checked this one out and it appears to be the only one so far that advertises DW without it's been through several purification processes. Most go through several purification processes, including Revers Osmosis, and this would make the water too pure for electrolysis to start, it would add hours and hours and hours to the brewing process. I have forwarded this one on to the person concerned. Thanks again for all your help everyone. N. Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:48:40 +0100 Subject: Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water? From: kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com The Distilled water co. sells both distilled and demineralized. You just order which you want cheers Kirsteen On 9 Apr 2015 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a person in the UK wants to make some EIS. Apparently the only water available in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS? I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps. I don't think a home distiller is an option here either. Thanks N.
Re: Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
That's 12 hours running the machine for one gallon. Or maybe 1.5 liters. Thinking out loud here - but I see your point and point taken. Joy On 4/9/2015 10:07 AM, asifnathekar wrote: There is double distilled available easily via eBay. Although I haven't ever found any in a retail store. Lots of demin available for kettles and car purposes Best way to go is a distiller. Even then double distill. Even when I have started off with RO water .. I have still had to double distill. Sent from Samsung Mobile
Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
I am in the UK and there are many outlets you can buy distilled water from online as I used to. I now make my own with an OdeV counter top distiller, so I don’t know why they think there isn’t any available here. You can’t buy it in big sizes in the supermarkets though….dee On 9 Apr 2015, at 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a person in the UK wants to make some EIS. Apparently the only water available in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS? I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps. I don't think a home distiller is an option here either. Thanks N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
Can you please tell me if Kangen water is better than/as good as distilled or Reverse Osmosis water? Also, Is the Silver Puppy better than the Silver Edge colloidal silver generator? Thank you, Jo On Thu, 09 Apr 2015 11:49:57 -0300 John Popelishlt;jpopel...@gmail.comgt; wrote On 04/09/2015 10:03 AM, Neville wrote: gt; Thanks Kirsteen, and Thank You to everyone else also. gt; gt; I checked this one out and it appears to be the only one gt; so far that advertises DW without it's been through gt; several purification processes. Most go through several gt; purification processes, including Revers Osmosis, and gt; this would make the water too pure for electrolysis to gt; start, it would add hours and hours and hours to the gt; brewing process. I have forwarded this one on to the gt; person concerned. gt; gt; Thanks again for all your help everyone. Reverse osmosis is less effective at removing atomic sized contamination than distilling is. RO is just forcing water through a filter that has very small holes. But the holes are not perfectly uniform, so they only reduce the amount of contamination, being more effective for large stuff, like bacteria, virus particles and large organic molecules. They do a pretty good job of removing metals and halogens, but they are not perfect. RO is sometimes used as a pretreatment before distillation, to keep the still cleaner. And if you start with very pure water that is not conductive enough, a few minutes exposure to air will contaminate it with carbon dioxide enough to make silver water. Or you could just dip the tip of your finger in it, and that will do it. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: lt;mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribegt; Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: lt;mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.comgt; List Owner: Mike Devour lt;mailto:mdev...@eskimo.comgt;
Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
Or just take some CS from your last batch to pollute the distilled water. That should start current flow. Opa Sent from my iPad On Apr 9, 2015, at 9:49 AM, John Popelish jpopel...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/09/2015 10:03 AM, Neville wrote: Thanks Kirsteen, and Thank You to everyone else also. I checked this one out and it appears to be the only one so far that advertises DW without it's been through several purification processes. Most go through several purification processes, including Revers Osmosis, and this would make the water too pure for electrolysis to start, it would add hours and hours and hours to the brewing process. I have forwarded this one on to the person concerned. Thanks again for all your help everyone. Reverse osmosis is less effective at removing atomic sized contamination than distilling is. RO is just forcing water through a filter that has very small holes. But the holes are not perfectly uniform, so they only reduce the amount of contamination, being more effective for large stuff, like bacteria, virus particles and large organic molecules. They do a pretty good job of removing metals and halogens, but they are not perfect. RO is sometimes used as a pretreatment before distillation, to keep the still cleaner. And if you start with very pure water that is not conductive enough, a few minutes exposure to air will contaminate it with carbon dioxide enough to make silver water. Or you could just dip the tip of your finger in it, and that will do it. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
On 04/09/2015 10:03 AM, Neville wrote: Thanks Kirsteen, and Thank You to everyone else also. I checked this one out and it appears to be the only one so far that advertises DW without it's been through several purification processes. Most go through several purification processes, including Revers Osmosis, and this would make the water too pure for electrolysis to start, it would add hours and hours and hours to the brewing process. I have forwarded this one on to the person concerned. Thanks again for all your help everyone. Reverse osmosis is less effective at removing atomic sized contamination than distilling is. RO is just forcing water through a filter that has very small holes. But the holes are not perfectly uniform, so they only reduce the amount of contamination, being more effective for large stuff, like bacteria, virus particles and large organic molecules. They do a pretty good job of removing metals and halogens, but they are not perfect. RO is sometimes used as a pretreatment before distillation, to keep the still cleaner. And if you start with very pure water that is not conductive enough, a few minutes exposure to air will contaminate it with carbon dioxide enough to make silver water. Or you could just dip the tip of your finger in it, and that will do it. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
On 04/09/2015 11:22 AM, sand27144 wrote: Can you please tell me if Kangen water is better than/as good as distilled or Reverse Osmosis water? Also, Is the Silver Puppy better than the Silver Edge colloidal silver generator? As I understand it, Kangen water is just bout the opposite of distilled water. It is alkaline and very conductive. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_ionizer DM water is a lot closer to distilled from the standpoint of making silver water. It is made by passing water through a filter filled with resin beads that replace metal ions (cations) with hydrogen ions and halogen ions (anions) with hydroxyl ions. Then the hydrogen and hydroxyl ions combine to make water. They don't remove insoluble particles or bacteria, but those are no problem for silver water. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purified_water If you use a DM filter, you should probably also have a conductivity or salt concentration meter, to test the water after you filter it, to see when the resin beads have been saturated and are no longer working. When this happens, the conductivity reading will rise significantly, compared to the result when the filter was new. I can't give you the benefit of experience on the two silver generators, because I make my own. -- Regards, John Popelish -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
Please see answers below Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Neville one.red...@hotmail.com Date: 09/04/2015 02:27 (GMT+00:00) To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water? I'll reply to you Asif, and is also a reply to you Nenah, Thanks. I did some googling before asking the question but the mistake I made when asking the question here was listing those as separate entities. Several suppliers I googled in the UK have DW in large print on the label - but - in fine print below it also states Demin and Deionised, in other words the water is all three? * I think they mean. It was demin/ro to start with and then distilled.* I'd be thinking if it's listed as all three, i.e. Distilled-Demineralised-Deionised it would then be produced using RO would it not? RO removes everything from the water doesn't it? Why would they list it as Distilled *and* Demineralised *and* Deionised on the same label and not just list it as RO water on the label? Sorry for the questions but am trying to help someone out here. DW apparently is not available in the UK, well not as I know it as available in Supermarkets here in Australia, and with DW printed on the label only, in the UK it seemingly always incorporates the other two. If this is the case, is this water OK for making EIS? I'm thinking it would be OK, but RO water may take a week to become conductive enough for electrolysis to occur, if you get my drift. I mean there has to be some impurities in the water for electrolysis to happen. I suggested the individual get Pure water from a Supermarket or chemist shop, so Asif, Pure water IS available in chemist shops in the UK? Yes/No? Or is it the Distilled+Demineralised+Deionised water they use, the same which can be bought at...Halfords is it? *pure water is similar to water for injections which is usually just demin or RO... I looked into this to avoid having to distill and also for alternatives to distill ing when abroad* Perhaps this is why I see this water as being so expensive in the UK, it's actually RO water and not just Distilled *or* Demineralised *or* Deionised. We can buy Distilled and/or Demin water here as separate products {never seen Deionised though}. I'd be thinking RO water would constitute all three? Perhaps if the aforesaid water is no good, and this individual wishes to get involved with EIS, a home distiller is the only option? *double distilled water is easily available on eBay here with out issue. Delivered of course... But it is expensive Best to buy a distiller* N. Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 01:16:18 +0100 Subject: Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water? From: asifnathe...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com I've only been successful with double distilled in the UK Demin and ro not worked at all On 9 Apr 2015 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a person in the UK wants to make some EIS. Apparently the only water available in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS? I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps. I don't think a home distiller is an option here either. Thanks N.
Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
The Distilled water co. sells both distilled and demineralized. You just order which you want cheers Kirsteen On 9 Apr 2015 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a person in the UK wants to make some EIS. Apparently the only water available in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS? I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps. I don't think a home distiller is an option here either. Thanks N.
RE: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
Thanks Kirsteen, and Thank You to everyone else also. I checked this one out and it appears to be the only one so far that advertises DW without it's been through several purification processes. Most go through several purification processes, including Revers Osmosis, and this would make the water too pure for electrolysis to start, it would add hours and hours and hours to the brewing process. I have forwarded this one on to the person concerned. Thanks again for all your help everyone. N. Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:48:40 +0100 Subject: Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water? From: kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com The Distilled water co. sells both distilled and demineralized. You just order which you want cheers Kirsteen On 9 Apr 2015 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a person in the UK wants to make some EIS. Apparently the only water available in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS? I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps. I don't think a home distiller is an option here either. Thanks N.
Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
Interesting. We use demineralized (DI) water at work. It is made using hydrochloric acid and caustic, essentially a chemical process. Distilled water is the same (demineralized), it's just 'made' differently, using heat to 'evaporate' and seperate minerals from the water. Kenneth Karen is Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise From:Kirsteen Wright kirsteen.falcons...@gmail.com Date:Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 8:50 Subject:Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water? The Distilled water co. sells both distilled and demineralized. You just order which you want cheers Kirsteen On 9 Apr 2015 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a person in the UK wants to make some EIS. Apparently the only water available in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS? I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps. I don't think a home distiller is an option here either. Thanks N.
CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a person in the UK wants to make some EIS. Apparently the only water available in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS? I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps. I don't think a home distiller is an option here either. Thanks N.
RE: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
I'll reply to you Asif, and is also a reply to you Nenah, Thanks. I did some googling before asking the question but the mistake I made when asking the question here was listing those as separate entities. Several suppliers I googled in the UK have DW in large print on the label - but - in fine print below it also states Demin and Deionised, in other words the water is all three? I'd be thinking if it's listed as all three, i.e. Distilled-Demineralised-Deionised it would then be produced using RO would it not? RO removes everything from the water doesn't it? Why would they list it as Distilled *and* Demineralised *and* Deionised on the same label and not just list it as RO water on the label? Sorry for the questions but am trying to help someone out here. DW apparently is not available in the UK, well not as I know it as available in Supermarkets here in Australia, and with DW printed on the label only, in the UK it seemingly always incorporates the other two. If this is the case, is this water OK for making EIS? I'm thinking it would be OK, but RO water may take a week to become conductive enough for electrolysis to occur, if you get my drift. I mean there has to be some impurities in the water for electrolysis to happen. I suggested the individual get Pure water from a Supermarket or chemist shop, so Asif, Pure water IS available in chemist shops in the UK? Yes/No? Or is it the Distilled+Demineralised+Deionised water they use, the same which can be bought at...Halfords is it? Perhaps this is why I see this water as being so expensive in the UK, it's actually RO water and not just Distilled *or* Demineralised *or* Deionised. We can buy Distilled and/or Demin water here as separate products {never seen Deionised though}. I'd be thinking RO water would constitute all three? Perhaps if the aforesaid water is no good, and this individual wishes to get involved with EIS, a home distiller is the only option? N. Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 01:16:18 +0100 Subject: Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water? From: asifnathe...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com I've only been successful with double distilled in the UK Demin and ro not worked at all On 9 Apr 2015 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a person in the UK wants to make some EIS. Apparently the only water available in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS? I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps. I don't think a home distiller is an option here either. Thanks N.
RE: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
It sounds as though de-ionized is the same thing as distilled. Distilled water does not contain any minerals, so there is no ionic activity across the cell membrane. Nenah Sylver, PhD author, The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy and Holistic Health healing from cancer and other diseases with non-invasive, effective technology suppressed by the medical cartel until recently http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com _ From: Neville [mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 4:11 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water? I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a person in the UK wants to make some EIS. Apparently the only water available in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS? I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps. I don't think a home distiller is an option here either. Thanks N. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5863 / Virus Database: 4328/9489 - Release Date: 04/08/15
Re: CSDistilled/Demin/Deionised/RO water?
I've only been successful with double distilled in the UK Demin and ro not worked at all On 9 Apr 2015 00:11, Neville one.red...@hotmail.com wrote: I know nothing about making EIS using Demin, RO or Deionised water, but a person in the UK wants to make some EIS. Apparently the only water available in the UK are those mentioned above, is it OK to use this water for making EIS? I would be thinking it's OK, it will just take longer to brew a batch perhaps. I don't think a home distiller is an option here either. Thanks N.