RE: CSImmunization OT
In some of the early mass inoculations, nations which did not vaccinate had rates of the disease an order of magnitude lower than those who did use the stuff. To see the writings of a Dr. unafraid to speak, search Dr. Richard Moskowitz. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: John Rigby [SMTP:ri...@fablor.com] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 9:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSImmunization OT Ha there Roger folks, Subject: Re: CSImmunization OT For what it is worth: As a statistician I can say that there is absolutely no empirical evidence for the efficacy of vaccination at all, rather evidence to its exceptional dangers. John John: I was intrigued by your last statement. In light of the virtual elimination of a number of infectious diseases during the last century, I would like to know how you arrived at this conclusion. Roger WOW! Far too big a topic for an easy answer and certainly too big and far off-topic for the list. Just look in the Cyberbog under anti-vaccination and information that was totally hidden as short a time ago as 5 years is all out there *with* names, dates and places to satisfy any REAL scientist. ( A person trying to objectively ascertain truth by test) ANY statistician/epedemiologist worth his salt can show that there is statistically insignificant support for the theory of Vaccination. But would be professionally insane to do so - or exceptionally brave - and there are heroes out there! Actually, on the last major eval that an interest group that I am in, ran on this very matter ( as a test for a different process), running water availability has the highest correlation of all. HOWEVER the fundamental failure of the concept is simple: WHY does the percentage of the population affected remain constant? WHY is it that only 30% of the grouped population contracts the disease? WHY don't the vaccinations work comparatively? Odd point: Even in nature it was rare, until recently, for her to eliminate more than the magic 30%. Although it might be unfair to blame Mother Nature anymore. We seem to have taken over and far more effectively. BTW: We haven't eliminated any major killers in the last century at all. Many of these scourges have (apparently) a 150 year cycle - the actual lifespan probable for a healthy human... from a biologists point of view. ? Nightmares potential: Haven't you noticed how they are all coming back? For anyone interested in such occult matters - I can point you to some odd things - but always with the disclaimer: I'm just the messenger - don't blame/shoot me! Cheers, John -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSImmunization OT
Hi John, I am always interested in ...odd things. Please share, on or off list. Thanks in advance. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: John Rigby [SMTP:ri...@fablor.com] Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 9:17 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSImmunization OT Ha there Roger folks, Subject: Re: CSImmunization OT For what it is worth: As a statistician I can say that there is absolutely no empirical evidence for the efficacy of vaccination at all, rather evidence to its exceptional dangers. John John: I was intrigued by your last statement. In light of the virtual elimination of a number of infectious diseases during the last century, I would like to know how you arrived at this conclusion. Roger WOW! Far too big a topic for an easy answer and certainly too big and far off-topic for the list. Just look in the Cyberbog under anti-vaccination and information that was totally hidden as short a time ago as 5 years is all out there *with* names, dates and places to satisfy any REAL scientist. ( A person trying to objectively ascertain truth by test) ANY statistician/epedemiologist worth his salt can show that there is statistically insignificant support for the theory of Vaccination. But would be professionally insane to do so - or exceptionally brave - and there are heroes out there! Actually, on the last major eval that an interest group that I am in, ran on this very matter ( as a test for a different process), running water availability has the highest correlation of all. HOWEVER the fundamental failure of the concept is simple: WHY does the percentage of the population affected remain constant? WHY is it that only 30% of the grouped population contracts the disease? WHY don't the vaccinations work comparatively? Odd point: Even in nature it was rare, until recently, for her to eliminate more than the magic 30%. Although it might be unfair to blame Mother Nature anymore. We seem to have taken over and far more effectively. BTW: We haven't eliminated any major killers in the last century at all. Many of these scourges have (apparently) a 150 year cycle - the actual lifespan probable for a healthy human... from a biologists point of view. ? Nightmares potential: Haven't you noticed how they are all coming back? For anyone interested in such occult matters - I can point you to some odd things - but always with the disclaimer: I'm just the messenger - don't blame/shoot me! Cheers, John -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSImmunization OT
Ha there Roger folks, Subject: Re: CSImmunization OT For what it is worth: As a statistician I can say that there is absolutely no empirical evidence for the efficacy of vaccination at all, rather evidence to its exceptional dangers. John John: I was intrigued by your last statement. In light of the virtual elimination of a number of infectious diseases during the last century, I would like to know how you arrived at this conclusion. Roger WOW! Far too big a topic for an easy answer and certainly too big and far off-topic for the list. Just look in the Cyberbog under anti-vaccination and information that was totally hidden as short a time ago as 5 years is all out there *with* names, dates and places to satisfy any REAL scientist. ( A person trying to objectively ascertain truth by test) ANY statistician/epedemiologist worth his salt can show that there is statistically insignificant support for the theory of Vaccination. But would be professionally insane to do so - or exceptionally brave - and there are heroes out there! Actually, on the last major eval that an interest group that I am in, ran on this very matter ( as a test for a different process), running water availability has the highest correlation of all. HOWEVER the fundamental failure of the concept is simple: WHY does the percentage of the population affected remain constant? WHY is it that only 30% of the grouped population contracts the disease? WHY don't the vaccinations work comparatively? Odd point: Even in nature it was rare, until recently, for her to eliminate more than the magic 30%. Although it might be unfair to blame Mother Nature anymore. We seem to have taken over and far more effectively. BTW: We haven't eliminated any major killers in the last century at all. Many of these scourges have (apparently) a 150 year cycle - the actual lifespan probable for a healthy human... from a biologists point of view. ? Nightmares potential: Haven't you noticed how they are all coming back? For anyone interested in such occult matters - I can point you to some odd things - but always with the disclaimer: I'm just the messenger - don't blame/shoot me! Cheers, John -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSImmunization OT
Ok List; Re: Immunization OT it appears to be a victory; when I handed the school the forms today... they didn't even challenge me. seems others may have already challenged my local system.. they appeared familiar with the forms. End of story for now. Jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSImmunization OT
Hello Jeannine folks, My hat off to you Jeannine! You are a brave person. Being right is beside the point. You are challenging a massive system. Congratulations. For what it is worth: As a statistician I can say that there is absolutely no empirical evidence for the efficacy of vaccination at all, rather evidence to its exceptional dangers. John - Original Message - From: deat...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 11:14 AM Subject: CSImmunization OT Ok List; Re: Immunization OT it appears to be a victory; when I handed the school the forms today... they didn't even challenge me. seems others may have already challenged my local system.. they appeared familiar with the forms. End of story for now. Jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSImmunization
James list: thanks for the suggestion on the form, but I already have the form; Atlantean press supplies all of that and the code for each state for only $10 - not bad in my estimation. I even located the Georgia code on the internet this weekend and downloaded it. However, from a separate source I now have a possible legal representation if I get into a bind the Rutherford Institute... A homeschool Mom told me last night. that represent people whose religious rights are violated. FYI. Thanks all for your comments - I go Wednesday. I'll let the list know what the outcome is. Jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSImmunization
Hi Jeannine, You may also want to look into Dr. Len Horowitz's site at: http://www.tetrahedron.org/ Toll Free 1-888-508-4787 Telephone 208-265-2575 FAX 208-265-2775 Postal address 206 North 4 th Avenue, Suite 147 Sandpoint, ID 83864 Electronic mail General Information: te...@tetrahedron.org Sales: te...@tetrahedron.org Customer Support: te...@tetrahedron.org He has alot of experience and knowledge dealing with the issue of vaccinations. He has forms and information you can download from his site. If you have questons you can call them too. Best of Luck, John - Original Message - From: deat...@aol.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:59 AM Subject: CSImmunization James list: thanks for the suggestion on the form, but I already have the form; Atlantean press supplies all of that and the code for each state for only $10 - not bad in my estimation. I even located the Georgia code on the internet this weekend and downloaded it. However, from a separate source I now have a possible legal representation if I get into a bind the Rutherford Institute... A homeschool Mom told me last night. that represent people whose religious rights are violated. FYI. Thanks all for your comments - I go Wednesday. I'll let the list know what the outcome is. Jeannine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com