Re: CSJuice fasts... yin and yang
I'm glad you're having this discussion, folks, as I've been looking at Dr. Wilson's page on yin/yang that Carol kindly posted, and it's hard to reconcile a lot of it with what I'm understanding about what's healthy and what's not. I get the impression (s)he's torturing things a bit to force them into a western and/or scientific framework, and it's losing something in the translation. I'll check out a few more pages from Dr. Wilson's site, just to see if it comes together more... And then check out these sources you've come up with, Dan. Interesting stuff! Thanks! Mike D. On Thu, 2013-02-07 at 12:58 -0600, Dan Nave wrote: I have to cite a source to have any credibility in this, so this is one I found on the net which is more in line with my understanding of yin and yang: http://www.tcmbasics.com/basics_yinyang.htm “Generally, anything that is moving, ascending, bright, progressing, hyperactive, including functional disease of the body, pertains to yang. http://www.tcmbasics.com/basics_yinyang.htm The characteristics of stillness, descending, darkness, degeneration, hypoactivity, including organic disease, pertain to yin.” (Definition) http://www.gsmcweb.com/?p=156 “Functional Symptoms vs. Organic Disease Many, if not most, health complaints are termed functional, meaning that no known associated organic or pathological tissue changes can be found by the physician investigating possible causes of the symptoms. Functional symptoms can include headaches, fatigue, insomnia, irritability, abdominal pain, indigestion, low back pain, or simply not feeling well. Organic or pathological disease are terms used to describe more advanced stages of disease that are accompanied by physical, cellular changes that can be identified by diagnostic testing. Examples of organic diseases include cancer, arthritis, heart disease, gastric ulcers, and emphysema.” Contradicting this is Dr Wilson’s description: http://drlwilson.com/Articles/yin%20yang%20healing.htm “Yang tends to be more contracted, more dense, condensing, increasing in mass,”…” and often more physical.” “Yang tends to be inward-moving or centripetal. It is also generally downward-moving toward the center of the earth.“ “Yin tends to be more expanded, evaporating, less dense, more chaotic, less massive, and in some cases more ethereal.” ““In contrast, yin tends to be more outward-moving, split apart or centrifugal. It also tends to be upward moving away from the earth.” Then he gives a rule which is not supported in any interpretation of yin or yang that I know of, and then shows that is the case in about half of his examples, and not in the other half. So, not a great theory: “Yang tends to be a lower frequency or slower moving waves, while yin tends to be a higher frequency of energy or faster moving waves of energy. This is not always the case, but it is often true.” Another bogus rule: “In contrast, yin tends to be more outward-moving, split apart or centrifugal. It also tends to be upward moving away from the earth.” “For example, foods that grow up in the air on trees, such as fruits, are further away from the earth and this is one reason they tend to be more yin. Root vegetables are much more yang, in part because they grow under the earth.” http://drlwilson.com/Articles/yin%20yang%20healing.htm “What are yin and yang? A general introduction to the concept is to understand them as follows: • Qualities of matter. Yang tends to be more contracted, more dense, condensing, increasing in mass, warm with more internal heat, dryer and often more physical. Yin tends to be more expanded, evaporating, less dense, more chaotic, less massive, cold, dampand in some cases more ethereal. For example, water is more yin, while land is more yang. The warm tropics are more yang, while the areas near the north and south poles are far more yin because they are cold. • Frequencies of energies. Yang tends to be a lower frequency or slower moving waves, while yin tends to be a higher frequency of energy or faster moving waves of energy. This is not always the case, but it is often true. For example, the color red is a lower frequency and more yang, while the color blue is a higher frequency and somewhat more yin. Infrared is an even lower frequency and tends to be more yang than red, although infrared contains some frequencies that are yin as well, so this criteria is variable. • Directions of movement. Yang tends to be inward-moving or centripetal. It is also generally downward-moving toward the center of the earth. In contrast, yin tends to be more outward-moving, split apart or centrifugal. It also tends to beupward moving away from the earth. Once again, this is not always true, but is often the case. For example, foods that
Re: CSJuice fasts... yin and yang
Hi There Mike it is good to have you back and active I sincerely hope you are fully back on track. I think most do not understand how energy works, it comes and goes - it changes from minute to minute depending upon what is gong on with the other aspects of the body, be it emotions, physical well being, and more - anything out of balance is not good, juice fasts, water fasts are all good and beneficial to the body for certain maladies, occasions and more - nothing to do with the body is a given - this is why I have chosen not to be so aggressive towards doctors who think, and play, at being Gods !They are trained along certain lines and those lines are all in boxes which deter flexibility, change and the unexpected The are actually working in a loaded mine field ! I personally think it is a huge part of taking responsibility for self that we all educate ourselves on how our body works, to become aware of how our body feels at all times, so that we can have a good idea of what is wrong - doctors do not live in our bodies so how can they really KNOW what is going on with us.I am very sorry to say that this is, in my humble opinion, grossly overlooked and needs to be addressed. In our world of today there is so much good information out there on the Internet into which we can tap to get the knowledge we need to take care of ourselves that there is little excuse for those who put their trust and faith in doctors allowing them to behave and think they are in fact God, and taking no responsibility for their own ailments - sorry guys if I have stepped on anyone's toes however it is something which I feel very strongly about as no doubt this epistle has shown !We are very important players in our health care ! Cheers to all Sandee Attitude is everything ! AliveAgainSilver - Drops Gel sandeemagic.organogold.com OVERSTOCK iPads: $33.93 Get New Apple iPads for $33.93! Limit One Per Customer. Get One Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/51156fb8133f26fb73d15st04duc
Re: CSJuice fasts... yin and yang
Hi Mike Dr Wilson has a really good website that I find myself referring to frequently. Here is his article on Yin and Yang healing Hope this helps: http://drlwilson.com/Articles/yin%20yang%20healing.htm - FROM: M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com TO: silver-list@eskimo.com SENT: Wed, February 6, 2013 11:27:12 AM SUBJECT: Re: CSJuice fasts... PT wrote: I agree with much of what you wrote but I don't think the average person can discriminate between Yin Fire or Yang Fire so avoiding extremist diets should be most helpful. Moderation in everything. I'd like to explore the option of an extremist approach, at least for a start, or if it proves necessary, so I think it would be helpful to understand how to discern Yin from Yang, as you folks are discussing it. Could you explain? Point to some resources on the topic, please? Thanks! Be well, Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org [1] Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html [2] Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com Links: -- [1] http://www.silverlist.org [2] http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Carol Maple Springs Farm http://www.maplesprings.com http://www.maplespringsfarm.com
Re: CSJuice fasts... yin and yang
I'm not an expert of course, but much of what he says about yin and yang does not seem to be consistent with my understanding of yin and yang. It seems to be difficult to make generalities about yin and yang that don't appear contradictory at some point. Dan On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Maple Springs Farm i...@maplesprings.com wrote: Hi Mike Dr Wilson has a really good website that I find myself referring to frequently. Here is his article on Yin and Yang healing Hope this helps: http://drlwilson.com/Articles/yin%20yang%20healing.htm - FROM: M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com TO: silver-list@eskimo.com SENT: Wed, February 6, 2013 11:27:12 AM SUBJECT: Re: CSJuice fasts... PT wrote: I agree with much of what you wrote but I don't think the average person can discriminate between Yin Fire or Yang Fire so avoiding extremist diets should be most helpful. Moderation in everything. I'd like to explore the option of an extremist approach, at least for a start, or if it proves necessary, so I think it would be helpful to understand how to discern Yin from Yang, as you folks are discussing it. Could you explain? Point to some resources on the topic, please? Thanks! Be well, Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSJuice fasts... yin and yang
Dan what was your understanding/interpretation of yin and yang? I musta missed it. On 07.02.2013 12:49, Dan Nave wrote: I'm not an expert of course, but much of what he says about yin and yang does not seem to be consistent with my understanding of yin and yang. It seems to be difficult to make generalities about yin and yang that don't appear contradictory at some point. Dan On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:34 AM, Maple Springs Farm i...@maplesprings.com wrote: Hi Mike Dr Wilson has a really good website that I find myself referring to frequently. Here is his article on Yin and Yang healing Hope this helps: http://drlwilson.com/Articles/yin%20yang%20healing.htm - FROM: M.G. Devour mdev...@gmail.com TO: silver-list@eskimo.com SENT: Wed, February 6, 2013 11:27:12 AM SUBJECT: Re: CSJuice fasts... PT wrote: I agree with much of what you wrote but I don't think the average person can discriminate between Yin Fire or Yang Fire so avoiding extremist diets should be most helpful. Moderation in everything. I'd like to explore the option of an extremist approach, at least for a start, or if it proves necessary, so I think it would be helpful to understand how to discern Yin from Yang, as you folks are discussing it. Could you explain? Point to some resources on the topic, please? Thanks! Be well, Mike D. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com Carol Maple Springs Farm http://www.maplesprings.com http://www.maplespringsfarm.com
