Re: CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES
I BELIEVE THEY WERE LASER DIODES. YOU MAY CONTACT THE AUTHOR THROUGH THE SILVER LIST... I SENT ALL INFORMATION TO DO FURTHER INVETIAGATIONS... GOOD HUNTING. realw...@webtv.net RealWort's Instant Messenger ---BeginMessage--- Sir, I am both intrigued and curious about the cost-effective LLLT device described, comprising of 5 laser pointers. Please elighten me whether the 5 laser pointers incorporate the use of Light-Emitting Diodes [LED]. Light rays from light-emitting diodes are not collimated and are also incoherent. Thanks. With regards Lew BROOKS BRADLEY wrote: My attention has just been called to a transmission error in my earlier post. The pointer arrangement should resemble the dots on the face of dicefor the number five. My email program shifted the dots. My apologies. Brooks Bradley. To all interested list members. Since I am, already, at my computer to comment on a post by James Holmes, I will take the occasion to relate an item which may be of some interest. The college-age son of one of our staff researchers came up with an effective---if not cosmetically attractive---unit for use by persons with limiited funds and/or technical expertise. He constructed an effective Low Level Laser Therapy (LLLT) unit by combining five (5) laser pointers in a very simple arrangement. The pointers were purchased from the local Harbor Freight outlet, for a cost of $6.50 ea., plus tax. The configuration is as follows: (1) the physical arrangement provides for the natural arrangement for five similar bodies in an idealized space utilizing configuration. e.g._ _ _ _ _ (2) the operating switches (momentary, normally-open) require some form of constant-pressure to stay activated. This is addressed by using several twists from a rubber band which contacts all of the four outside switches, simultaneously. (3) the center pointer's on/off switch must be taped down prior to arrranging the four outer units. (4) arrange the four outer units in such a manner as to have their ON/OFF switch on a line directly toward the center of the assembly (this provides the maximum contact with the restraining rubber band. (5) assemble the pointers in a manner which causes the lower, sloping sections to be parallel to each other. This furnishes the closest allowable focus of the beams. (6) using tape, or preferably, a properly-sized rubber band, restrain them in the desired configuration. (7) next, apply the rubber band you have chosen to close the Power Switches of the four outside pointers. Some of you more adept-types may chose to use the same rubber band to both hold the assembly togetherand to operate the power switches, of the outside pointers. Since the four outside pointers will be in a divergent configuration toward the top of the assembly, some may desire to mechanically stabilize it. This may be done through using short lengths of popcicle sticks, thin styrofoam inserts, etc., plus a weak rubber band around the top of the assembly. Although this explanation may be overly cumbersome, the unit itself, is exceptionally simple to assemble.and to use. The power is low enough that the bulbs may be placed in direct contact with the outer skin (at least this has been our experience), We have employed this unit for continuous periods up to 15 minutes in a single location, without any, detectable, adverse reactions beyond slight skin reddening. We have found this low-power unit to be quite effective for applications within its power range. The chief advantage of the LLLT over the LED units is that of penetrating power of the coherent light beam. We have found no advantage for LLLT in conditions involving superficial (outer cutaneous) insults- among the experimental populations. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.. P.S. Please do remember NEVER POINT ANY LASER DIRECTLY INTO ANYONE'S EYE/EYES To do so can cause PERMANENT/IRREPARABLE damage to the centra fovea.plus other retinal damage. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com ---End Message---
Re: CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES
Sir, I am both intrigued and curious about the cost-effective LLLT device described, comprising of 5 laser pointers. Please elighten me whether the 5 laser pointers incorporate the use of Light-Emitting Diodes [LED]. Light rays from light-emitting diodes are not collimated and are also incoherent. Thanks. With regards Lew BROOKS BRADLEY wrote: My attention has just been called to a transmission error in my earlier post. The pointer arrangement should resemble the dots on the face of dicefor the number five. My email program shifted the dots. My apologies. Brooks Bradley. To all interested list members. Since I am, already, at my computer to comment on a post by James Holmes, I will take the occasion to relate an item which may be of some interest. The college-age son of one of our staff researchers came up with an effective---if not cosmetically attractive---unit for use by persons with limiited funds and/or technical expertise. He constructed an effective Low Level Laser Therapy (LLLT) unit by combining five (5) laser pointers in a very simple arrangement. The pointers were purchased from the local Harbor Freight outlet, for a cost of $6.50 ea., plus tax. The configuration is as follows: (1) the physical arrangement provides for the natural arrangement for five similar bodies in an idealized space utilizing configuration. e.g._ _ _ _ _ (2) the operating switches (momentary, normally-open) require some form of constant-pressure to stay activated. This is addressed by using several twists from a rubber band which contacts all of the four outside switches, simultaneously. (3) the center pointer's on/off switch must be taped down prior to arrranging the four outer units. (4) arrange the four outer units in such a manner as to have their ON/OFF switch on a line directly toward the center of the assembly (this provides the maximum contact with the restraining rubber band. (5) assemble the pointers in a manner which causes the lower, sloping sections to be parallel to each other. This furnishes the closest allowable focus of the beams. (6) using tape, or preferably, a properly-sized rubber band, restrain them in the desired configuration. (7) next, apply the rubber band you have chosen to close the Power Switches of the four outside pointers. Some of you more adept-types may chose to use the same rubber band to both hold the assembly togetherand to operate the power switches, of the outside pointers. Since the four outside pointers will be in a divergent configuration toward the top of the assembly, some may desire to mechanically stabilize it. This may be done through using short lengths of popcicle sticks, thin styrofoam inserts, etc., plus a weak rubber band around the top of the assembly. Although this explanation may be overly cumbersome, the unit itself, is exceptionally simple to assemble.and to use. The power is low enough that the bulbs may be placed in direct contact with the outer skin (at least this has been our experience), We have employed this unit for continuous periods up to 15 minutes in a single location, without any, detectable, adverse reactions beyond slight skin reddening. We have found this low-power unit to be quite effective for applications within its power range. The chief advantage of the LLLT over the LED units is that of penetrating power of the coherent light beam. We have found no advantage for LLLT in conditions involving superficial (outer cutaneous) insults- among the experimental populations. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.. P.S. Please do remember NEVER POINT ANY LASER DIRECTLY INTO ANYONE'S EYE/EYES To do so can cause PERMANENT/IRREPARABLE damage to the centra fovea.plus other retinal damage. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES
I BELIEVE THEY WERE LASER DIODES. YOU MAY CONTACT THE AUTHOR THROUGH THE SILVER LIST... I SENT ALL INFORMATION TO DO FURTHER INVETIAGATIONS... GOOD HUNTING. You don`t need to shout...
Re: CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES
i am new to this list and I do need to shout as I CAN'T SEE ON MY 9 INCH SCREEN SO I APOLOGIZE MY EYE SIGHT IS POOR BUT I MUST HAVE LARGE PRINT... THANKS FOR UNDERSTANDNG... BTW THAT THAT POST WAS AN ERRONIOUS ONE. I POSTED IT ON THE LASER LIST AND RESPONDED WITHOUT CONFIRMING THA IT WAS TO THAT LIST FRST WHICH IT WASN'T AND SO MY RESPONSE WAS INAPPRPRIATE ANYWAS SINCE IT WAS NOT MY POST AS I FORWARDED IT ETC... SORRY FOLKS... laserthe...@listbot.com IS THE EMAIL ADDRESS TO THE LASER LIST. YOU CAN ASK THEM OR ME HOW TO SUBSCRIBE THERE. WAYNE I KEEP FORGETING TO WARN PEOPLE ABOUT MY 9 INCH TV POOR EYESIGHT. realw...@webtv.net RealWort's Instant Messenger
Re: CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES
Dear F.H. Lew. The device I described has nothing to do with LED's. The comment relating to LEDs was simply directed toward distinguishing one of the differences between the effects of LLLTs and LED assemblies. I apologize if my syntax was so constructed as to mislead you. I did not intend to suggest that LEDs generated a coherent beam. I will try to be more explicit in future postings. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. FHLew wrote: Sir, I am both intrigued and curious about the cost-effective LLLT device described, comprising of 5 laser pointers. Please elighten me whether the 5 laser pointers incorporate the use of Light-Emitting Diodes [LED]. Light rays from light-emitting diodes are not collimated and are also incoherent. Thanks. With regards Lew BROOKS BRADLEY wrote: My attention has just been called to a transmission error in my earlier post. The pointer arrangement should resemble the dots on the face of dicefor the number five. My email program shifted the dots. My apologies. Brooks Bradley. To all interested list members. Since I am, already, at my computer to comment on a post by James Holmes, I will take the occasion to relate an item which may be of some interest. The college-age son of one of our staff researchers came up with an effective---if not cosmetically attractive---unit for use by persons with limiited funds and/or technical expertise. He constructed an effective Low Level Laser Therapy (LLLT) unit by combining five (5) laser pointers in a very simple arrangement. The pointers were purchased from the local Harbor Freight outlet, for a cost of $6.50 ea., plus tax. The configuration is as follows: (1) the physical arrangement provides for the natural arrangement for five similar bodies in an idealized space utilizing configuration. e.g._ _ _ _ _ (2) the operating switches (momentary, normally-open) require some form of constant-pressure to stay activated. This is addressed by using several twists from a rubber band which contacts all of the four outside switches, simultaneously. (3) the center pointer's on/off switch must be taped down prior to arrranging the four outer units. (4) arrange the four outer units in such a manner as to have their ON/OFF switch on a line directly toward the center of the assembly (this provides the maximum contact with the restraining rubber band. (5) assemble the pointers in a manner which causes the lower, sloping sections to be parallel to each other. This furnishes the closest allowable focus of the beams. (6) using tape, or preferably, a properly-sized rubber band, restrain them in the desired configuration. (7) next, apply the rubber band you have chosen to close the Power Switches of the four outside pointers. Some of you more adept-types may chose to use the same rubber band to both hold the assembly togetherand to operate the power switches, of the outside pointers. Since the four outside pointers will be in a divergent configuration toward the top of the assembly, some may desire to mechanically stabilize it. This may be done through using short lengths of popcicle sticks, thin styrofoam inserts, etc., plus a weak rubber band around the top of the assembly. Although this explanation may be overly cumbersome, the unit itself, is exceptionally simple to assemble.and to use. The power is low enough that the bulbs may be placed in direct contact with the outer skin (at least this has been our experience), We have employed this unit for continuous periods up to 15 minutes in a single location, without any, detectable, adverse reactions beyond slight skin reddening. We have found this low-power unit to be quite effective for applications within its power range. The chief advantage of the LLLT over the LED units is that of penetrating power of the coherent light beam. We have found no advantage for LLLT in conditions involving superficial (outer cutaneous) insults- among the experimental populations. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.. P.S. Please do remember NEVER POINT ANY LASER DIRECTLY INTO ANYONE'S EYE/EYES To do so can cause PERMANENT/IRREPARABLE damage to the centra fovea.plus other retinal damage. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To
Re: CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES
Hello James, My apologies for this tardy response, but you are aware of my time-based pressures. They are obscene for one of my years. I have chosen to answer you with a copy to the list..as some others may have an interest also. First, let me clarify that we have conducted no formal studies ourselves. However, we have conducted several anecdotal-type evaluations,,especially on horses. The laser pointers we have used are 5 MW in power. Our laboratory instruments are HeNe type, and are 10 mw and 25 mw respectively. We have several LED arrays. Some are 13, some 25, and some 50 elements in size. Do be advised, I AM NOT a pundit in matters relating to either LEDT or LLLT. This being the case, do understand I have no positionor verifiable proof.that one methodology is superior to the other. People seem to become somewhat polarized on the merits of oneor the other, as being superior. Useful studies are not very numerous, but I will list several we found of pertinence, both for comparing the effectivity of LEDs versus LLLTs..and for the general information furnished: 1. Gupta, et al. Journal of Dermatological Treatment (1997) This study relates to the use of non-coherent light (LEDs) for addressing damage on superficial structures (e.g. skin, epithelial tissues and very shallow muscle tissue insults). The results, using 660 nm incoherent light, were very positive on slow-healing wounds. 2. Several studies, of which I do not have access here at home, have been conducted which seem to confirm that LLLT is markely superior to LEDT for relieving chronic, deep-seated, pain through raising the ACTH and endorphin levels-where LEDT gives little.or no response. 3. Some researchers have reported positive results using a combination of LLLT and LEDT. e.g. Laser Therapy, 1998, Vol. 10, No.3. For pain and wound healing. 4. LLLT arrays have demonstrated their superiority in addressing severe, non-healing ulcers, among diabetics. Journal of British Podiatric Medicine, 1991, Oct.., 186-189. 5. Another study of possible consequence is: Jilliane James. Primary Care. Care Vol. 410. 1997; pages 18-20. Topic. Use of Laser Therapy on Non-healing Wounds. 6. The most pronounced claim, to date, favoring LLLT over LEDT seems to be that made by Tina Karu (1998: The Science of Low-Power Laser Therapy), wherein she states, the coherence of light is of no importance in low-power laser clinical effects and the primary difference between lasers and LEDs is that the lasers coherent beam produces speckles of relatively high power density which can cause local heating of inhomogeneous tissues. I have a couple more general comments, before I end this extended epistle. The general view among our more knowledgeable staff is that LED arrays are very effective for open wounds and large-area amorphous swellings (e.g. impact trauma, near-surface hematomas). Additionally, LEDs give measureable relief in cases of tightened lean-muscle tissues. These conditions prevail for large domestic mammals (e.g. horses and cows), as well as human volunteers. Although large LED arrays (100 bulbs) will trigger IR detectors on the opposite side of the human hand.demonstrating considerable power of penetrationthey do not seem to yield the degree of pain- relief or the rapid, beneficial, deep-tissue and nerve response modifications-as do 10 mw, and greater, LLLT devices. I hope these observations are of value to you. Sincerely, Brooks. James Osbourne, Holmes wrote: Hi Brooks, Thanks for another great homemade therapy device. Do you have handy references for the types of conditions and protocols with which this device has been demonstrated to be effective? -Original Message- From: BROOKS BRADLEY liat...@flash.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Monday, May 22, 2000 12:48 PM Subject: CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES My attention has just been called to a transmission error in my earlier post. The pointer arrangement should resemble the dots on the face of dicefor the number five. My email program shifted the dots. My apologies. Brooks Bradley. To all interested list members. Since I am, already, at my computer to comment on a post by James Holmes, I will take the occasion to relate an item which may be of some interest. The college-age son of one of our staff researchers came up with an effective---if not cosmetically attractive---unit for use by persons with limiited funds and/or technical expertise. He constructed an effective Low
CSOT:CORRECTION... ECONOMICAL VARIATION FOR LLLT RESEARCHES
My attention has just been called to a transmission error in my earlier post. The pointer arrangement should resemble the dots on the face of dicefor the number five. My email program shifted the dots. My apologies. Brooks Bradley. To all interested list members. Since I am, already, at my computer to comment on a post by James Holmes, I will take the occasion to relate an item which may be of some interest. The college-age son of one of our staff researchers came up with an effective---if not cosmetically attractive---unit for use by persons with limiited funds and/or technical expertise. He constructed an effective Low Level Laser Therapy (LLLT) unit by combining five (5) laser pointers in a very simple arrangement. The pointers were purchased from the local Harbor Freight outlet, for a cost of $6.50 ea., plus tax. The configuration is as follows: (1) the physical arrangement provides for the natural arrangement for five similar bodies in an idealized space utilizing configuration. e.g._ _ _ _ _ (2) the operating switches (momentary, normally-open) require some form of constant-pressure to stay activated. This is addressed by using several twists from a rubber band which contacts all of the four outside switches, simultaneously. (3) the center pointer's on/off switch must be taped down prior to arrranging the four outer units. (4) arrange the four outer units in such a manner as to have their ON/OFF switch on a line directly toward the center of the assembly (this provides the maximum contact with the restraining rubber band. (5) assemble the pointers in a manner which causes the lower, sloping sections to be parallel to each other. This furnishes the closest allowable focus of the beams. (6) using tape, or preferably, a properly-sized rubber band, restrain them in the desired configuration. (7) next, apply the rubber band you have chosen to close the Power Switches of the four outside pointers. Some of you more adept-types may chose to use the same rubber band to both hold the assembly togetherand to operate the power switches, of the outside pointers. Since the four outside pointers will be in a divergent configuration toward the top of the assembly, some may desire to mechanically stabilize it. This may be done through using short lengths of popcicle sticks, thin styrofoam inserts, etc., plus a weak rubber band around the top of the assembly. Although this explanation may be overly cumbersome, the unit itself, is exceptionally simple to assemble.and to use. The power is low enough that the bulbs may be placed in direct contact with the outer skin (at least this has been our experience), We have employed this unit for continuous periods up to 15 minutes in a single location, without any, detectable, adverse reactions beyond slight skin reddening. We have found this low-power unit to be quite effective for applications within its power range. The chief advantage of the LLLT over the LED units is that of penetrating power of the coherent light beam. We have found no advantage for LLLT in conditions involving superficial (outer cutaneous) insults- among the experimental populations. Sincerely, Brooks Bradley.. P.S. Please do remember NEVER POINT ANY LASER DIRECTLY INTO ANYONE'S EYE/EYES To do so can cause PERMANENT/IRREPARABLE damage to the centra fovea.plus other retinal damage. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
