RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
From Circa 80's Dead..too much is just enough. Finances notwithstanding, you can take as much as does not give you diarrhea. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: rob gr [SMTP:brownin...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 3:58 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Hey James, i would really like to know the answer to that one too. If I am going to use Silver properly to treat my Lyme- the right dosage concentration seems to have some correlation. Just curious - have there been research on what concentration of CS is required to inhibit/kill Lyme? Also how does that translate into the ppm and dosage that should be taken? rob in memphis From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com Reply-To: a...@trail.com a...@trail.com To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:56:08 -0600 What is the source of the silver and the amount taken per dose per day? See also the Clark and Beck stuff. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Scharbach [SMTP:myf...@mwt.net] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:57 AM To:silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Sure, James! The basic stuff is, the CS I was taking seemed to hold everything off, wasn't getting any better, wasn't getting any worse, until I ended up in ICU with heart problems. The Docs decided it was the Lyme, they finally DIAGNOSED it as Lyme, and I took 6 weeks of IV Rocephrin. Felt fabulous!! Back to my old self. My SIL who has never known me without Lyme, said she didn't think I was the same person. Anyhow, I've been doing pretty well, a few little ups and downs, here and there, but the Doc's said it was just residual effects, which I believed since it was all joint pain, or tendon type pain, and it had mostly faded. About 3 weeks ago, though, I started getting really tired, and spacey. Then the mood swings, REALLY forgetful, and now my knees and elbows are aching again. Gee, seems like I've been down THIS road before, and thought I'd never want to do it again. . . . . . Sparrow Hi Sparrow, I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened. Can you offer any details, off or on list? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
I'm sorry, it seems that in my last message, I sent along the KAK virus *heavy sigh* Please go to http://vil.nai.com/villib/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=10509 in order to find out how to get rid of it. Once again, sorry. Yours in health, James Allison - Allisons Apothecary - Your On-Line Apothecary Visit Us Soon - http://allisonsapothecary.com Home of the $39.95 Colloidal Silver Generator And Wonderful Prices On Quality Products Like MSM, Ionic Mineral Waters and Apricot Kernels - - Original Message - From: Scharbach To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:57 AM Subject: Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Sure, James! The basic stuff is, the CS I was taking seemed to hold everything off, wasn't getting any better, wasn't getting any worse, until I ended up in ICU with heart problems. The Docs decided it was the Lyme, they finally DIAGNOSED it as Lyme, and I took 6 weeks of IV Rocephrin. Felt fabulous!! Back to my old self. My SIL who has never known me without Lyme, said she didn't think I was the same person. Anyhow, I've been doing pretty well, a few little ups and downs, here and there, but the Doc's said it was just residual effects, which I believed since it was all joint pain, or tendon type pain, and it had mostly faded. About 3 weeks ago, though, I started getting really tired, and spacey. Then the mood swings, REALLY forgetful, and now my knees and elbows are aching again. Gee, seems like I've been down THIS road before, and thought I'd never want to do it again. . . . . . Sparrow Hi Sparrow, I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened. Can you offer any details, off or on list? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
It has been sent 3 or 4 times before on this list, so most likely those who would get it already have. Marshall James Allison wrote: I'm sorry, it seems that in my last message, I sent along the KAK virus *heavy sigh* Please go to http://vil.nai.com/villib/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=10509 in order to find out how to get rid of it. Once again, sorry. Yours in health, James Allison - Allisons Apothecary - Your On-Line Apothecary Visit Us Soon - http://allisonsapothecary.com Home of the $39.95 Colloidal Silver Generator And Wonderful Prices On Quality Products Like MSM, Ionic Mineral Waters and Apricot Kernels - - Original Message - From: Scharbach To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:57 AM Subject: Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Sure, James! The basic stuff is, the CS I was taking seemed to hold everything off, wasn't getting any better, wasn't getting any worse, until I ended up in ICU with heart problems. The Docs decided it was the Lyme, they finally DIAGNOSED it as Lyme, and I took 6 weeks of IV Rocephrin. Felt fabulous!! Back to my old self. My SIL who has never known me without Lyme, said she didn't think I was the same person. Anyhow, I've been doing pretty well, a few little ups and downs, here and there, but the Doc's said it was just residual effects, which I believed since it was all joint pain, or tendon type pain, and it had mostly faded. About 3 weeks ago, though, I started getting really tired, and spacey. Then the mood swings, REALLY forgetful, and now my knees and elbows are aching again. Gee, seems like I've been down THIS road before, and thought I'd never want to do it again. . . . . . Sparrow Hi Sparrow, I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened. Can you offer any details, off or on list? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
Sure, James! The basic stuff is, the CS I was taking seemed to hold everything off, wasn't getting any better, wasn't getting any worse, until I ended up in ICU with heart problems. The Docs decided it was the Lyme, they finally DIAGNOSED it as Lyme, and I took 6 weeks of IV Rocephrin. Felt fabulous!! Back to my old self. My SIL who has never known me without Lyme, said she didn't think I was the same person. Anyhow, I've been doing pretty well, a few little ups and downs, here and there, but the Doc's said it was just residual effects, which I believed since it was all joint pain, or tendon type pain, and it had mostly faded. About 3 weeks ago, though, I started getting really tired, and spacey. Then the mood swings, REALLY forgetful, and now my knees and elbows are aching again. Gee, seems like I've been down THIS road before, and thought I'd never want to do it again. . . . . . Sparrow Hi Sparrow, I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened. Can you offer any details, off or on list? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
What is the source of the silver and the amount taken per dose per day? See also the Clark and Beck stuff. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Scharbach [SMTP:myf...@mwt.net] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Sure, James! The basic stuff is, the CS I was taking seemed to hold everything off, wasn't getting any better, wasn't getting any worse, until I ended up in ICU with heart problems. The Docs decided it was the Lyme, they finally DIAGNOSED it as Lyme, and I took 6 weeks of IV Rocephrin. Felt fabulous!! Back to my old self. My SIL who has never known me without Lyme, said she didn't think I was the same person. Anyhow, I've been doing pretty well, a few little ups and downs, here and there, but the Doc's said it was just residual effects, which I believed since it was all joint pain, or tendon type pain, and it had mostly faded. About 3 weeks ago, though, I started getting really tired, and spacey. Then the mood swings, REALLY forgetful, and now my knees and elbows are aching again. Gee, seems like I've been down THIS road before, and thought I'd never want to do it again. . . . . . Sparrow Hi Sparrow, I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened. Can you offer any details, off or on list? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
Hey James, i would really like to know the answer to that one too. If I am going to use Silver properly to treat my Lyme- the right dosage concentration seems to have some correlation. Just curious - have there been research on what concentration of CS is required to inhibit/kill Lyme? Also how does that translate into the ppm and dosage that should be taken? rob in memphis From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com Reply-To: a...@trail.com a...@trail.com To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:56:08 -0600 What is the source of the silver and the amount taken per dose per day? See also the Clark and Beck stuff. James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Scharbach [SMTP:myf...@mwt.net] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:57 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Sure, James! The basic stuff is, the CS I was taking seemed to hold everything off, wasn't getting any better, wasn't getting any worse, until I ended up in ICU with heart problems. The Docs decided it was the Lyme, they finally DIAGNOSED it as Lyme, and I took 6 weeks of IV Rocephrin. Felt fabulous!! Back to my old self. My SIL who has never known me without Lyme, said she didn't think I was the same person. Anyhow, I've been doing pretty well, a few little ups and downs, here and there, but the Doc's said it was just residual effects, which I believed since it was all joint pain, or tendon type pain, and it had mostly faded. About 3 weeks ago, though, I started getting really tired, and spacey. Then the mood swings, REALLY forgetful, and now my knees and elbows are aching again. Gee, seems like I've been down THIS road before, and thought I'd never want to do it again. . . . . . Sparrow Hi Sparrow, I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened. Can you offer any details, off or on list? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
I would like to know this also. Thanks, Christy In a message dated 5/25/00 2:59:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, brownin...@hotmail.com writes: Subj: RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Date: 5/25/00 2:59:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time From: brownin...@hotmail.com (rob gr) Reply-to: silver-list@eskimo.com To:silver-list@eskimo.com Hey James, i would really like to know the answer to that one too. If I am going to use Silver properly to treat my Lyme- the right dosage concentration seems to have some correlation. Just curious - have there been research on what concentration of CS is required to inhibit/kill Lyme? Also how does that translate into the ppm and dosage that should be taken? rob in memphis -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
I'd be a Gunea pig!!I seem to be out of remision, and back into full fledged neuro Lyme. You're right, it's a tough bug, and it really SUCKS :~( Sparrow That is Cool... But I wonder how effective it is against Lyme Disease. That is one Tough Bug!!! Rob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
Hi Sparrow, I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened. Can you offer any details, off or on list? James Osbourne Holmes a...@trail.com FTNWO -Original Message- From: Scharbach [SMTP:myf...@mwt.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 1:37 PM To: rob gr; silver-list@eskimo.com Subject:Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics I'd be a Gunea pig!!I seem to be out of remision, and back into full fledged neuro Lyme. You're right, it's a tough bug, and it really SUCKS :~( Sparrow That is Cool... But I wonder how effective it is against Lyme Disease. That is one Tough Bug!!! Rob -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
Cool!!! Sounds great!! Sparrow Using substances like PPO to treat infections could also help solve the growing problem of antibiotic resistance, says Cowan. The destruction of bacteria sensitive to antibiotics is a primary requisite for the rise of resistant mutants. Since these compounds don't kill the sensitive bacteria, they remain around to compete and crowd out any individual resistant bacteria that may develop. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
That is Cool... But I wonder how effective it is against Lyme Disease. That is one Tough Bug!!! Rob From: Scharbach myf...@mwt.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: George Martin gmar...@dragonbyte.net, sIlver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:21:40 -0700 Cool!!! Sounds great!! Sparrow Using substances like PPO to treat infections could also help solve the growing problem of antibiotic resistance, says Cowan. The destruction of bacteria sensitive to antibiotics is a primary requisite for the rise of resistant mutants. Since these compounds don't kill the sensitive bacteria, they remain around to compete and crowd out any individual resistant bacteria that may develop. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
source: EurekAlert! http://www.eurekalert.org/releases/asm-pea051700.html Contact: Jim Sliwa jsl...@asmusa.org 202-942-9297 American Society for Microbiology Potato extract: A new direction for antibiotics A potato extract may offer us insight into a new strategy for antibiotic research: Don't kill the bacteria, just prevent them from attaching to our cells. Researchers from the Miami University of Ohio report the results of their study on this potato extract at the 100th General Meeting of the American Society for Microbiology. In the past several years many scientists have come to believe that there is another way to prevent or cure infections, besides simply killing the causitive organisms, says researcher Dr. Marjorie Cowan. Nearly all microorganisms must secure themselves firmly to their target tissue in order to cause disease. Preventing or disrupting the attachment of microorganisms to host tissue could provide a kinder, gentler approach to curing or preventing disease. All current antibiotics work by essentially killing bacteria. In the search for new antibiotics, one strategy used has been to screen plant extracts, long used by traditional healers, for their killing ability. The researchers in this study chose a different strategy. They decided to study a plant extract that was known to have anti-infective properties but had previously been discounted as an antibiotic because it did not kill the bacteria. They chose the potato. We found that a water extract of the outer few millimeters of a potato inhibited the attachment of an oral streptococcus to the substance it uses for attachment to the tooth surface. It also prevented the attachment of E. coli which cause urinary tract infections to its host cells, says Cowan. The researchers have identified the specific compound within the extract responsible for inhibiting bacterial adhesion. It is called polyphenol oxidase, or PPO, and is a common enzyme in plants and is responsible for browning of a variety of fruits and vegetables including apples, potatoes and mushrooms. Using substances like PPO to treat infections could also help solve the growing problem of antibiotic resistance, says Cowan. The destruction of bacteria sensitive to antibiotics is a primary requisite for the rise of resistant mutants. Since these compounds don't kill the sensitive bacteria, they remain around to compete and crowd out any individual resistant bacteria that may develop. This release is a summary of a presentation from the 100th General Meeting of the American Society for Microbiology, May 21-25, 2000, in Los Angeles. Additional information on these and other presentations at the 100th ASM General Meeting can be found online at http://www.asmusa.org/pcsrc/gm2000/presskit.htm or by contacting Jim Sliwa jsl...@asmusa.org in the ASM Office of Communications. The phone number for the General Meeting Press Room is 213-765-4660 and will be active from 10:00 a.m., May 21 until 12:00 noon, May 25. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com