RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

2000-05-26 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
From Circa 80's Dead..too much is just enough.   Finances 
notwithstanding, you can take as much as does not give you diarrhea.
 
James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
FTNWO


-Original Message-
From:   rob gr [SMTP:brownin...@hotmail.com]
Sent:   Thursday, May 25, 2000 3:58 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

Hey James, i would really like to know the answer to that one too.

If I am going to use Silver properly to treat my Lyme- the right dosage 
concentration seems to have some correlation.

Just curious - have there been research on what concentration of CS is 
required to inhibit/kill Lyme? Also how does that translate into the ppm and 
dosage that should be taken?

rob
in memphis


From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com
Reply-To: a...@trail.com a...@trail.com
To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:56:08 -0600

What is the source of the silver and the amount taken per dose per day?

See also the Clark and Beck stuff.

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
FTNWO


-Original Message-
From:  Scharbach [SMTP:myf...@mwt.net]
Sent:  Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:57 AM
To:silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:   Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

Sure, James!

The basic stuff is, the CS I was taking seemed to hold everything off,
wasn't getting any better, wasn't getting any worse, until I ended up in 
ICU
with heart problems.   The Docs decided
it was the Lyme, they finally DIAGNOSED it as Lyme, and I took 6 weeks of 
IV
Rocephrin.

Felt fabulous!!   Back to my old self.   My SIL who has never known me
without Lyme, said
she didn't think I was the same person.

Anyhow, I've been doing pretty well, a few little ups and downs, here and
there, but the Doc's
said it was just residual effects, which I believed since it was all joint
pain, or tendon type pain, and it had mostly faded.

About 3 weeks ago, though, I started getting really tired, and spacey.
Then the mood swings,  REALLY forgetful, and now my knees and elbows are
aching again. Gee,
seems like I've been down THIS road before, and thought I'd never want to 
do
it again. . . . . .


Sparrow


 Hi Sparrow,
 
 I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened.
 
 Can you offer any details, off or on list?
 
 James Osbourne Holmes
 a...@trail.com
 FTNWO



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Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

2000-05-25 Thread James Allison
I'm sorry, it seems that in my last message, I sent along the KAK virus *heavy 
sigh*

Please go to http://vil.nai.com/villib/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=10509 in order to 
find out how to get rid of it.

Once again, sorry.

Yours in health,
James Allison

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Scharbach 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:57 AM
  Subject: Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics


  Sure, James!

  The basic stuff is, the CS I was taking seemed to hold everything off,
  wasn't getting any better, wasn't getting any worse, until I ended up in ICU
  with heart problems.   The Docs decided
  it was the Lyme, they finally DIAGNOSED it as Lyme, and I took 6 weeks of IV
  Rocephrin.

  Felt fabulous!!   Back to my old self.   My SIL who has never known me
  without Lyme, said
  she didn't think I was the same person.

  Anyhow, I've been doing pretty well, a few little ups and downs, here and
  there, but the Doc's
  said it was just residual effects, which I believed since it was all joint
  pain, or tendon type pain, and it had mostly faded.

  About 3 weeks ago, though, I started getting really tired, and spacey.
  Then the mood swings,  REALLY forgetful, and now my knees and elbows are
  aching again. Gee,
  seems like I've been down THIS road before, and thought I'd never want to do
  it again. . . . . .


  Sparrow


  Hi Sparrow,
  
  I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened.
  
  Can you offer any details, off or on list?
  
  James Osbourne Holmes
  a...@trail.com
  FTNWO



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Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

2000-05-25 Thread Marshall Dudley
It has been sent 3 or 4 times before on this list, so most likely those
who would get it already have.

Marshall

James Allison wrote:

 I'm sorry, it seems that in my last message, I sent along the KAK
 virus *heavy sigh* Please go to
 http://vil.nai.com/villib/dispVirus.asp?virus_k=10509 in order to find
 out how to get rid of it. Once again, sorry.
 Yours in health,
 James Allison -
 Allisons Apothecary - Your On-Line Apothecary
 Visit Us Soon - http://allisonsapothecary.com
 Home of the $39.95 Colloidal Silver Generator
 And Wonderful Prices On Quality Products Like
 MSM, Ionic Mineral Waters and Apricot Kernels
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  - Original Message -
  From: Scharbach
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com
  Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2000 9:57 AM
  Subject: Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for
  antibiotics
   Sure, James!

  The basic stuff is, the CS I was taking seemed to hold
  everything off,
  wasn't getting any better, wasn't getting any worse, until I
  ended up in ICU
  with heart problems.   The Docs decided
  it was the Lyme, they finally DIAGNOSED it as Lyme, and I
  took 6 weeks of IV
  Rocephrin.

  Felt fabulous!!   Back to my old self.   My SIL who has
  never known me
  without Lyme, said
  she didn't think I was the same person.

  Anyhow, I've been doing pretty well, a few little ups and
  downs, here and
  there, but the Doc's
  said it was just residual effects, which I believed since it
  was all joint
  pain, or tendon type pain, and it had mostly faded.

  About 3 weeks ago, though, I started getting really tired,
  and spacey.
  Then the mood swings,  REALLY forgetful, and now my knees
  and elbows are
  aching again. Gee,
  seems like I've been down THIS road before, and thought I'd
  never want to do
  it again. . . . . .


  Sparrow


  Hi Sparrow,
  
  I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened.
  
  Can you offer any details, off or on list?
  
  James Osbourne Holmes
  a...@trail.com
  FTNWO



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Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

2000-05-25 Thread Scharbach
Sure, James!

The basic stuff is, the CS I was taking seemed to hold everything off,
wasn't getting any better, wasn't getting any worse, until I ended up in ICU
with heart problems.   The Docs decided
it was the Lyme, they finally DIAGNOSED it as Lyme, and I took 6 weeks of IV
Rocephrin.

Felt fabulous!!   Back to my old self.   My SIL who has never known me
without Lyme, said
she didn't think I was the same person.

Anyhow, I've been doing pretty well, a few little ups and downs, here and
there, but the Doc's
said it was just residual effects, which I believed since it was all joint
pain, or tendon type pain, and it had mostly faded.

About 3 weeks ago, though, I started getting really tired, and spacey.
Then the mood swings,  REALLY forgetful, and now my knees and elbows are
aching again. Gee,
seems like I've been down THIS road before, and thought I'd never want to do
it again. . . . . .


Sparrow


Hi Sparrow,

I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened.

Can you offer any details, off or on list?

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
FTNWO



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RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

2000-05-25 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
What is the source of the silver and the amount taken per dose per day?

See also the Clark and Beck stuff. 

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
FTNWO


-Original Message-
From:   Scharbach [SMTP:myf...@mwt.net]
Sent:   Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:57 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

Sure, James!

The basic stuff is, the CS I was taking seemed to hold everything off,
wasn't getting any better, wasn't getting any worse, until I ended up in ICU
with heart problems.   The Docs decided
it was the Lyme, they finally DIAGNOSED it as Lyme, and I took 6 weeks of IV
Rocephrin.

Felt fabulous!!   Back to my old self.   My SIL who has never known me
without Lyme, said
she didn't think I was the same person.

Anyhow, I've been doing pretty well, a few little ups and downs, here and
there, but the Doc's
said it was just residual effects, which I believed since it was all joint
pain, or tendon type pain, and it had mostly faded.

About 3 weeks ago, though, I started getting really tired, and spacey.
Then the mood swings,  REALLY forgetful, and now my knees and elbows are
aching again. Gee,
seems like I've been down THIS road before, and thought I'd never want to do
it again. . . . . .


Sparrow


Hi Sparrow,

I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened.

Can you offer any details, off or on list?

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
FTNWO



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RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

2000-05-25 Thread rob gr

Hey James, i would really like to know the answer to that one too.

If I am going to use Silver properly to treat my Lyme- the right dosage 
concentration seems to have some correlation.


Just curious - have there been research on what concentration of CS is 
required to inhibit/kill Lyme? Also how does that translate into the ppm and 
dosage that should be taken?


rob
in memphis



From: James Osbourne, Holmes a...@trail.com
Reply-To: a...@trail.com a...@trail.com
To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
Date: Thu, 25 May 2000 11:56:08 -0600

What is the source of the silver and the amount taken per dose per day?

See also the Clark and Beck stuff.

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
FTNWO


-Original Message-
From:   Scharbach [SMTP:myf...@mwt.net]
Sent:   Thursday, May 25, 2000 10:57 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

Sure, James!

The basic stuff is, the CS I was taking seemed to hold everything off,
wasn't getting any better, wasn't getting any worse, until I ended up in 
ICU

with heart problems.   The Docs decided
it was the Lyme, they finally DIAGNOSED it as Lyme, and I took 6 weeks of 
IV

Rocephrin.

Felt fabulous!!   Back to my old self.   My SIL who has never known me
without Lyme, said
she didn't think I was the same person.

Anyhow, I've been doing pretty well, a few little ups and downs, here and
there, but the Doc's
said it was just residual effects, which I believed since it was all joint
pain, or tendon type pain, and it had mostly faded.

About 3 weeks ago, though, I started getting really tired, and spacey.
Then the mood swings,  REALLY forgetful, and now my knees and elbows are
aching again. Gee,
seems like I've been down THIS road before, and thought I'd never want to 
do

it again. . . . . .


Sparrow


Hi Sparrow,

I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened.

Can you offer any details, off or on list?

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
FTNWO



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Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

2000-05-25 Thread Ritz3131
I would like to know this also.

Thanks,

Christy

In a message dated 5/25/00 2:59:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
brownin...@hotmail.com writes:

 Subj: RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
 Date:  5/25/00 2:59:53 PM Pacific Daylight Time
 From:  brownin...@hotmail.com (rob gr)
 Reply-to:  silver-list@eskimo.com
 To:silver-list@eskimo.com
 
 Hey James, i would really like to know the answer to that one too.
 
 If I am going to use Silver properly to treat my Lyme- the right dosage 
 concentration seems to have some correlation.
 
 Just curious - have there been research on what concentration of CS is 
 required to inhibit/kill Lyme? Also how does that translate into the ppm and 
 dosage that should be taken?
 
 rob
 in memphis 


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Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

2000-05-24 Thread Scharbach

I'd be a Gunea pig!!I seem to be out of remision, and back into full
fledged neuro
Lyme.   You're right, it's a tough bug, and it really SUCKS   :~(

Sparrow


That is Cool... But I wonder how effective it is against Lyme Disease. That
is one Tough Bug!!!

Rob



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RE: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

2000-05-24 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Sparrow,

I am very sorry to hear that your condition has worsened.  

Can you offer any details, off or on list?

James Osbourne Holmes
a...@trail.com
FTNWO


-Original Message-
From:   Scharbach [SMTP:myf...@mwt.net]
Sent:   Wednesday, May 24, 2000 1:37 PM
To: rob gr; silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics


I'd be a Gunea pig!!I seem to be out of remision, and back into full
fledged neuro
Lyme.   You're right, it's a tough bug, and it really SUCKS   :~(

Sparrow


That is Cool... But I wonder how effective it is against Lyme Disease. That
is one Tough Bug!!!

Rob



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Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

2000-05-23 Thread Scharbach
Cool!!!   Sounds great!!

Sparrow

Using substances like PPO to treat infections could also help solve
the
growing problem of antibiotic resistance, says Cowan. The
destruction of
bacteria sensitive to antibiotics is a primary requisite for the
rise of
resistant mutants. Since these compounds don't kill the sensitive
bacteria,
they remain around to compete and crowd out any individual resistant
bacteria that may develop. 



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Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

2000-05-23 Thread rob gr
That is Cool... But I wonder how effective it is against Lyme Disease. That 
is one Tough Bug!!!


Rob



From: Scharbach myf...@mwt.net
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: George Martin gmar...@dragonbyte.net, sIlver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics
Date: Tue, 23 May 2000 10:21:40 -0700

Cool!!!   Sounds great!!

Sparrow

Using substances like PPO to treat infections could also help solve
the
growing problem of antibiotic resistance, says Cowan. The
destruction of
bacteria sensitive to antibiotics is a primary requisite for the
rise of
resistant mutants. Since these compounds don't kill the sensitive
bacteria,
they remain around to compete and crowd out any individual resistant
bacteria that may develop.



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CSPotato extract: A new direction for antibiotics

2000-05-22 Thread George Martin
source:
EurekAlert!
http://www.eurekalert.org/releases/asm-pea051700.html

Contact: Jim Sliwa
jsl...@asmusa.org
202-942-9297
American Society for Microbiology 

Potato extract: A new direction for antibiotics  

A potato extract may offer us insight into a new strategy for
antibiotic
research: Don't kill the bacteria, just prevent them from attaching
to our
cells. Researchers from the Miami University of Ohio report the
results of
their study on this potato extract at the 100th General Meeting of
the
American Society for Microbiology. 

 In the past several years many scientists have come to believe
that there
is another way to prevent or cure infections, besides simply killing
the
causitive organisms, says researcher Dr. Marjorie Cowan. Nearly
all
microorganisms must secure themselves firmly to their target tissue
in
order to cause disease. Preventing or disrupting the attachment of
microorganisms to host tissue could provide a kinder, gentler
approach to
curing or preventing disease. 

All current antibiotics work by essentially killing bacteria. In the
search
for new antibiotics, one strategy used has been to screen plant
extracts,
long used by traditional healers, for their killing ability. The
researchers in this study chose a different strategy. They decided
to study
a plant extract that was known to have anti-infective properties but
had
previously been discounted as an antibiotic because it did not kill
the
bacteria. They chose the potato. 

 We found that a water extract of the outer few millimeters of a
potato
inhibited the attachment of an oral streptococcus to the substance
it uses
for attachment to the tooth surface. It also prevented the
attachment of E.
coli which cause urinary tract infections to its host cells, says
Cowan. 

 The researchers have identified the specific compound within the
extract
responsible for inhibiting bacterial adhesion. It is called
polyphenol
oxidase, or PPO, and is a common enzyme in plants and is responsible
for
browning of a variety of fruits and vegetables including apples,
potatoes
and mushrooms. 

Using substances like PPO to treat infections could also help solve
the
growing problem of antibiotic resistance, says Cowan. The
destruction of
bacteria sensitive to antibiotics is a primary requisite for the
rise of
resistant mutants. Since these compounds don't kill the sensitive
bacteria,
they remain around to compete and crowd out any individual resistant
bacteria that may develop. 


This release is a summary of a presentation from the 100th General
Meeting
of the American Society for Microbiology, May 21-25, 2000, in Los
Angeles.
Additional information on these and other presentations at the 100th
ASM
General Meeting can be found online at
http://www.asmusa.org/pcsrc/gm2000/presskit.htm or by contacting Jim
Sliwa
jsl...@asmusa.org in the ASM Office of Communications. 
The phone number for the General Meeting Press Room is 213-765-4660
and
will be active from 10:00 a.m., May 21 until 12:00 noon, May 25.



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