Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
Here is a list of all the food additives allowed in the European Union, there are at the moment 300 diffrent ones divided in categories ie, colouring,emulsifiers, sweeteners,etc. Silver is number E174 used as colouring.ie glazing in bakeries etc http://www.food.gov.uk/safereating/additivesbranch/enumberlist laurenz -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
The FDA also allows silver in decorations. http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/humannutrition/_fndigest/1996/marapr96.htm Q. Are those little decorative silver balls that are put on cupcakes and things safe? A. The FDA has a fact sheet on Dragees (their actual name) and states that We have no evidence of harm to health from the extremely small quantity of silver in the coating. Therefore, the FDA has not objected to the presence of silver on these decorations when they are used as a cake decoration. (RB) Marshall l wrote: Here is a list of all the food additives allowed in the European Union, there are at the moment 300 diffrent ones divided in categories ie, colouring,emulsifiers, sweeteners,etc. Silver is number E174 used as colouring.ie glazing in bakeries etc http://www.food.gov.uk/safereating/additivesbranch/enumberlist laurenz -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
and Thank You very much. Ed -Original Message- From: l [mailto:laure...@bluewin.ch] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 12:04 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.) Here is a list of all the food additives allowed in the European Union, there are at the moment 300 diffrent ones divided in categories ie, colouring,emulsifiers, sweeteners,etc. Silver is number E174 used as colouring.ie glazing in bakeries etc http://www.food.gov.uk/safereating/additivesbranch/enumberlist laurenz -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
The FDA only has objection to health claims. I sell CS on my website. I link to the silver list and tell people that they can make it themselves. In a letter the FDA warned me: 1.that any links are to be interrupted as a label. Therefore links that make medical claims are medical claims made by me. 2. That [as a California licensed acupuncturist and herbalist] I may make dietary suggestions. However dietary suggestions - in their view - mean that it must be consumed and not placed on the skin. (I suggested that CS may help when applied directly to the skin in certain cases). Ed -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.) The FDA also allows silver in decorations. http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/humannutrition/_fndigest/1996/marapr96.htm Q. Are those little decorative silver balls that are put on cupcakes and things safe? A. The FDA has a fact sheet on Dragees (their actual name) and states that We have no evidence of harm to health from the extremely small quantity of silver in the coating. Therefore, the FDA has not objected to the presence of silver on these decorations when they are used as a cake decoration. (RB) Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
Hi Ed: What, if you remember, was the exact link? The FDA cannot expect you to control the content on another website not owned by you. If the link is to be interpreted as a label, then were their words in the link text that suggested either diagnosis, prescribe, treat, or otherwise make a health claim with the silver? ...very curious! Best Regards, Jason - Original Message - From: Ed Kasper edkas...@pacbell.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 12:42 PM Subject: RE: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.) The FDA only has objection to health claims. I sell CS on my website. I link to the silver list and tell people that they can make it themselves. In a letter the FDA warned me: 1.that any links are to be interrupted as a label. Therefore links that make medical claims are medical claims made by me. 2. That [as a California licensed acupuncturist and herbalist] I may make dietary suggestions. However dietary suggestions - in their view - mean that it must be consumed and not placed on the skin. (I suggested that CS may help when applied directly to the skin in certain cases). Ed -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.) The FDA also allows silver in decorations. http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/humannutrition/_fndigest/1996/marapr96.htm Q. Are those little decorative silver balls that are put on cupcakes and things safe? A. The FDA has a fact sheet on Dragees (their actual name) and states that We have no evidence of harm to health from the extremely small quantity of silver in the coating. Therefore, the FDA has not objected to the presence of silver on these decorations when they are used as a cake decoration. (RB) Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
That is not true, for instance the FDA approves food additives and colorings, but there are never any health claims for food coloring. Try putting a non approved color in your food, and they will come down on you too. Marshall Ed Kasper wrote: The FDA only has objection to health claims. I sell CS on my website. I link to the silver list and tell people that they can make it themselves. In a letter the FDA warned me: 1.that any links are to be interrupted as a label. Therefore links that make medical claims are medical claims made by me. 2. That [as a California licensed acupuncturist and herbalist] I may make dietary suggestions. However dietary suggestions - in their view - mean that it must be consumed and not placed on the skin. (I suggested that CS may help when applied directly to the skin in certain cases). Ed -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.) The FDA also allows silver in decorations. http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/humannutrition/_fndigest/1996/marapr96.htm Q. Are those little decorative silver balls that are put on cupcakes and things safe? A. The FDA has a fact sheet on Dragees (their actual name) and states that We have no evidence of harm to health from the extremely small quantity of silver in the coating. Therefore, the FDA has not objected to the presence of silver on these decorations when they are used as a cake decoration. (RB) Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
This may be going a bit off topic but if the FDA - Food Drug Adim - why don't they take a closer look at dietary supplements - like the Chinese herbs, etc that I sell. I know they look at supplements but it seems very vague. As I said they did look over my site but their concern was in the use of herbs specially Ginseng in the treatment of a disease - Diabetes and in CS applied topically) Ginseng could not be marketed as a product for treating diabetes. If it did treat diabetes then in the FDA would/will (in their words) classify Ginseng as a new drug and I would need a federal license to dispense the herb (new drug). They did not see me in violation for selling ginseng - a dietary supplement - in the treatment of thirsting and wasting disease (a TCM defined disorder that resembles diabetes in signs and symptoms). I could sell CS as a dietary supplement - but not for the treatment of a disease. My apologies for going off subject but the FDA invites my curiosity. Thanks for responses. ed -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 2:30 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.) That is not true, for instance the FDA approves food additives and colorings, but there are never any health claims for food coloring. Try putting a non approved color in your food, and they will come down on you too. Marshall Ed Kasper wrote: The FDA only has objection to health claims. I sell CS on my website. I link to the silver list and tell people that they can make it themselves. In a letter the FDA warned me: 1.that any links are to be interrupted as a label. Therefore links that make medical claims are medical claims made by me. 2. That [as a California licensed acupuncturist and herbalist] I may make dietary suggestions. However dietary suggestions - in their view - mean that it must be consumed and not placed on the skin. (I suggested that CS may help when applied directly to the skin in certain cases). Ed -Original Message- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@king-cart.com] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.) The FDA also allows silver in decorations. http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/humannutrition/_fndigest/1996/marapr96.htm Q. Are those little decorative silver balls that are put on cupcakes and things safe? A. The FDA has a fact sheet on Dragees (their actual name) and states that We have no evidence of harm to health from the extremely small quantity of silver in the coating. Therefore, the FDA has not objected to the presence of silver on these decorations when they are used as a cake decoration. (RB) Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
i'm glad you posted this. you are correct, that to easily get the fda's attention, just make a claim of any cure or benefit that any product that you sell might bring a person. but,,, take the time to research this move coming out the new EU, to control supplements, warmly known as CODEX ALIMENTARIOUS. if it passes in europe, then, under the rules of the World Trade Organization, them theys will demand that we (sovereign U.S. citizens) will have to follow all the restrictions that they will place on europe, so that there will be no advantage (or disadvantage) in marketing by the big pharmeceutical companies, (both EU and US). we (the people) probably have less than a year to turn this back. it is do-able, if we take the time. Ed Kasper wrote: This may be going a bit off topic but if the FDA - Food Drug Adim - why don't they take a closer look at dietary supplements - like the Chinese herbs, etc that I sell. I know they look at supplements but it seems very vague. As I said they did look over my site but their concern was in the use of herbs specially Ginseng in the treatment of a disease - Diabetes and in CS applied topically) Ginseng could not be marketed as a product for treating diabetes. If it did treat diabetes then in the FDA would/will (in their words) classify Ginseng as a new drug and I would need a federal license to dispense the herb (new drug). They did not see me in violation for selling ginseng - a dietary supplement - in the treatment of thirsting and wasting disease (a TCM defined disorder that resembles diabetes in signs and symptoms). I could sell CS as a dietary supplement - but not for the treatment of a disease. My apologies for going off subject but the FDA invites my curiosity. Thanks for responses. ed -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
The FDA only has objection to health claims...---Ed For a sadly illuminating encounter with these 'protectors', here's the Senate Hearing on Withdrawal of Vioxx Prescription Drug http://tinyurl.com/67c94 for those who missed C-SPAN's broadcast. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
..i'm wondering which supplements would get banned in the end?for instance absihnt (called the green fairy) has been legalized again here in Europe where i live ;-) -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
How is silver used silver as a (legal) food additive (used in bakery etc.) Are there recipes (on the web) on this stuff? ed -Original Message- From: l [mailto:laure...@bluewin.ch] Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Silver Breeze In Switzerland there is a five point poison classification; 1 being the most poisonus- 5 the least , stating how much is lethal to living animals (mostly) rats 1 - 0-5mg/kg 2- 5-50mg/kg 3- 50-500mg/kg 4- 500-2000mg/kg 5- 2000-5000mg/kg so what is being said is that silver breeze does apparently not fall within those catergories ..if it is proven and tested i don't know...also in the European Comunity -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSRE: silver is a legal food additive (used in bakery etc.)
Silver is a trace mineral. Minerals are found in food. Silver is a normal component of the human body. Garnet On Sun, 2004-11-21 at 18:05, Ed Kasper wrote: How is silver used silver as a (legal) food additive (used in bakery etc.) Are there recipes (on the web) on this stuff? ed -Original Message- From: l [mailto:laure...@bluewin.ch] Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2004 12:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Silver Breeze In Switzerland there is a five point poison classification; 1 being the most poisonus- 5 the least , stating how much is lethal to living animals (mostly) rats 1 - 0-5mg/kg 2- 5-50mg/kg 3- 50-500mg/kg 4- 500-2000mg/kg 5- 2000-5000mg/kg so what is being said is that silver breeze does apparently not fall within those catergories ..if it is proven and tested i don't know...also in the European Comunity -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
