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If Obamacare ever gets repealed on account of the fact that it forces people to buy a product they don't want, that could set precedence, since paying to opt out of smart meters is also essentially forcing people to buy a product. David
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I always make judgement in my decisions. and people should have the god given right to choose when it comes to there health and not have someone stuff something down there throat and tell them that it is good for them.. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:16 PM Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info That may be so, but you don't appear to be the one who could make a judgement about it... Dan On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Mike W-H th...@telus.net wrote: No amount of exposure is a good amount of exposure of this crap... sorry i don't buy it.. the exposure so called safe limits, who is claiming it is safe? Should you trust them? I don't...are they health professionals?? NO!! So who are they to say what is safe Why take the risk Should we wait for the bodies to pile up before we determine that yes they are unsafe? - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere with other wireless devices in my home? Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is 2.4 GHz (gigahertz). The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will interfere with any wireless devices in the home. Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart Meters been assessed? The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the FCC exposure guidelines. The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on public health: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Amen. - Original Message - From: Mike W-H th...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:31 AM Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info I always make judgement in my decisions. and people should have the god given right to choose when it comes to there health and not have someone stuff something down there throat and tell them that it is good for them.. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:16 PM Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info That may be so, but you don't appear to be the one who could make a judgement about it... Dan On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Mike W-H th...@telus.net wrote: No amount of exposure is a good amount of exposure of this crap... sorry i don't buy it.. the exposure so called safe limits, who is claiming it is safe? Should you trust them? I don't...are they health professionals?? NO!! So who are they to say what is safe Why take the risk Should we wait for the bodies to pile up before we determine that yes they are unsafe? - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere with other wireless devices in my home? Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is 2.4 GHz (gigahertz). The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will interfere with any wireless devices in the home. Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart Meters been assessed? The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the FCC exposure guidelines. The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on public health: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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The point is that you certainly are able to have an emotional response, but if you are not willing to look at the facts of what you are actually dealing with then you will not be able to move beyond an emotional response. Dan On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Mike W-H th...@telus.net wrote: I always make judgement in my decisions. and people should have the god given right to choose when it comes to there health and not have someone stuff something down there throat and tell them that it is good for them.. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:16 PM Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info That may be so, but you don't appear to be the one who could make a judgement about it... Dan On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Mike W-H th...@telus.net wrote: No amount of exposure is a good amount of exposure of this crap... sorry i don't buy it.. the exposure so called safe limits, who is claiming it is safe? Should you trust them? I don't...are they health professionals?? NO!! So who are they to say what is safe Why take the risk Should we wait for the bodies to pile up before we determine that yes they are unsafe? - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere with other wireless devices in my home? Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is 2.4 GHz (gigahertz). The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will interfere with any wireless devices in the home. Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart Meters been assessed? The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the FCC exposure guidelines. The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on public health: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I am not sure they would tell you anything. My K2, which is similar goes off scale near even the analog ones. Marshall On 10/23/2011 11:23 PM, Dan Nave wrote: I don't know. You could read up on it or just try it. Dan On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote: Hi Dan, Would a tri-field meter be able to pick up these emissions? I have one, but need to buy a nine volt battery for it, as I am out, *sigh*. Thanks, Craig Dan Nave wrote: Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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I have a Multidetector II Profi High Sensitive Electrosmog-Analyser It has EMF scales from 1 MV/Meter to 1000 MV/Meter and frequency bands for below 500 Hertz and also above 500 hertz. It goes off scale on about half the ranges most anywhere in my house. Of course it's seeing the fields from the house wiring and there's no way to see microwave energy from the Power meter. It's all the same. Go figger. Trem - Original Message - From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 9:31 AM Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info I am not sure they would tell you anything. My K2, which is similar goes off scale near even the analog ones. Marshall On 10/23/2011 11:23 PM, Dan Nave wrote: I don't know. You could read up on it or just try it. Dan On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote: Hi Dan, Would a tri-field meter be able to pick up these emissions? I have one, but need to buy a nine volt battery for it, as I am out, *sigh*. Thanks, Craig Dan Nave wrote: Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions:mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devourmailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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You should watch the movie Full Signal , to get better educated on the subject Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoDUCryS6LY Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYBtxjJbmDsfeature=related Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzxp1CCtILofeature=related Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMI8RCKUHE4feature=related Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ8F81tJwywfeature=related there is qualified people on this movie that you should listen to, then you will know what you are dealing with and you might just have an emotional response when you see that someone is violating your rights, my point is that these meters are not optional, when there is other alternatives they can use such as wired meters using telephone lines, they can give customers an option but don't,,, NOT FAIR, but life never is sometimes, people should have the right to choose i believe in my humble opinion... If I came into your house everday and sprayed rat poison, Just a little bit into your water every day and told you it is not proven, that in those small quantities that it would harm you and that you would need to hear from a qualified individual that it is perfectly safe , would you wait to hear from that person, then go to bed at night feeling much better? there is evidence to prove that RF is not good for humans...Physicists will tell you otherwise, What long term tests have they don't on this technology before launching this on people? NONE I don't like being a guinea pig, forgive me for having an emotional response. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 7:33 AM Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info The point is that you certainly are able to have an emotional response, but if you are not willing to look at the facts of what you are actually dealing with then you will not be able to move beyond an emotional response. Dan On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Mike W-H th...@telus.net wrote: I always make judgement in my decisions. and people should have the god given right to choose when it comes to there health and not have someone stuff something down there throat and tell them that it is good for them.. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 8:16 PM Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info That may be so, but you don't appear to be the one who could make a judgement about it... Dan On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Mike W-H th...@telus.net wrote: No amount of exposure is a good amount of exposure of this crap... sorry i don't buy it.. the exposure so called safe limits, who is claiming it is safe? Should you trust them? I don't...are they health professionals?? NO!! So who are they to say what is safe Why take the risk Should we wait for the bodies to pile up before we determine that yes they are unsafe? - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere with other wireless devices in my home? Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is 2.4 GHz (gigahertz). The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will interfere with any wireless devices in the home. Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart Meters been assessed? The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the FCC exposure guidelines. The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on public health: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Thankyou jane, In my opinion this is a criminal act exposing people to this, and if this technology is potentially harmful wich it is, why won't they give people insurance against this technology? I was told that if i refuse a smart meter, they will cut the power off to my house.. Now that is what you call respecting peoples rights...or should i say ,,WHAT RIGHTS? Mike - Original Message - From: Jane MacRoss highfie...@internode.on.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 2:52 AM Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info Of course you can make an assessment Mike, you and everyone else - either by your own sensitivity experience or by the myriad records of the negative impact these meters have had recorded by the many people who have not been able to avoid having them installed Jane From: Mike W-H th...@telus.net I always make judgement in my decisions. and people should have the god given right to choose when it comes to there health and not have someone stuff something down there throat and tell them that it is good for them.. From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com That may be so, but you don't appear to be the one who could make a judgement about it... -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ambient Microwave Radiation From Wireless Technologies Linked to Higher Residential Electricity Cost _http://electromagnetichealth.org/media-stories/#Ambient-Microwave_ (http://electromagnetichealth.org/media-stories/#Ambient-Microwave) High Frequencies from Neighborhood Cell Phone Antennas Found to Speed Up Utility Meters, Increasing Bills Might you be paying for electricity you did not use? A couple in upstate New York noticed their electricity bill had almost doubled, even though the rates had not increased and their utility usage had not changed. The utility company said they could not explain what had happened. The couple was aware a cell phone tower had been erected near their home and every time they added new antennas, their electricity bill increased. This couple contacted Dr. Magda Havas of Trent University in Canada, who investigated their situation. Dr. Havas reviewed four years of the couple’ s utility bills and discovered the utility bills had increased dramatically when the antennas went online. She measured high levels of microwave radiation in the home as well as dirty electricity, or high frequency transients, on the electrical wiring. When RF chokes were placed near the hour-watt meter the cost of monthly bills decreased substantially… almost to pre-tower levels. After installing a $10 choke, this couple saved almost $1000 annually on electricity. The explanation is simple. Mechanical hour-watt meters can give inaccurate readings if frequencies higher than 60 Hz (cycles per second) are present on the wiring. The utilities know this and they have technology to keep the electrical power operating at a pure 60 Hz. However, when higher frequencies are loaded onto the line, these frequencies make the hour-watt meters spin faster, giving the appearance that more electricity is being consumed. These false readings are costing American families hundreds to thousands of dollars each year. If your electricity bills are increasing without any obvious explanation and if you go on vacation and are using minimal power but your electricity bill is still high you may want to investigate this situation. You may be paying for power you are not consuming. This case study suggests that further analysis of electrical utility bills pre- and post-erection of a cell phone tower is warranted in cases where utility bills in homes and offices have increased without explanation. Credentialed journalists interested in pursuing a story on the impact of ambient RF on utility meter readings may contact Dr. Magda Havas at HYPERLINK **mailto:mha...@trentu.ca** _mhavas@trentu.ca_ (mailto:mha...@trentu.ca) . - Original Message - From: Mike W-H th...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:21 PM Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info You should watch the movie Full Signal , to get better educated on the subject Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoDUCryS6LY Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYBtxjJbmDsfeature=related Part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzxp1CCtILofeature=related Part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMI8RCKUHE4feature=related Part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ8F81tJwywfeature=related there is qualified people on this movie that you should listen to, then you will know what you are dealing with and you might just have an emotional response when you see that someone is violating your rights, my point is that these meters are not optional, when there is other alternatives they can use such as wired meters using telephone lines, they can give customers an option but don't,,, NOT FAIR, but life never is sometimes, people should have the right to choose i believe in my humble opinion... If I came into your house everday and sprayed rat poison, Just a little bit into your water every day and told you it is not proven, that in those small quantities that it would harm you and that you would need to hear from a qualified individual that it is perfectly safe , would you wait to hear from that person, then go to bed at night feeling much better? there is evidence to prove that RF is not good for humans...Physicists will tell you otherwise, What long term tests have they don't on this technology before launching this on people? NONE I don't like being a guinea pig, forgive me for having an emotional response. - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 7:33 AM Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info The point is that you certainly are able to have an emotional response, but if you are not willing to look at the facts of what you are actually dealing with then you will not be able to move beyond an emotional response. Dan On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:31 AM, Mike W-H th...@telus.net wrote: I always make judgement in my decisions. and people should have
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No amount of exposure is a good amount of exposure of this crap... sorry i don't buy it.. the exposure so called safe limits, who is claiming it is safe? Should you trust them? I don't...are they health professionals?? NO!! So who are they to say what is safe Why take the risk Should we wait for the bodies to pile up before we determine that yes they are unsafe? - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere with other wireless devices in my home? Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is 2.4 GHz (gigahertz). The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will interfere with any wireless devices in the home. Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart Meters been assessed? The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the FCC exposure guidelines. The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on public health: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Mike, RF readings have shown that smart meters emit far stronger fields than they admit, and they emit them for 24/7 in a pulsed arrangement. From what I have read, these smart meters are dangerous. Nobody knows the health effects of microwave radiation, and studies do show increased risk of cancer, high blood pressure, cardiac abnormalities, allergies, and other health effects. I have also read that the microwaves can be blocked using thick aluminum foil or aluminum screening. It's best to block in back of the meter so no waves enter your house. If you block the front of the meter they won't be able to be read and that might trigger law enforcement of some sort. I'm no expert but I'm reading as much as I can on this. If you live in California you can complain to SC Edison or PGE. Bob - Original Message - From: Mike W-H th...@telus.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:31 PM Subject: Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info No amount of exposure is a good amount of exposure of this crap... sorry i don't buy it.. the exposure so called safe limits, who is claiming it is safe? Should you trust them? I don't...are they health professionals?? NO!! So who are they to say what is safe Why take the risk Should we wait for the bodies to pile up before we determine that yes they are unsafe? - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere with other wireless devices in my home? Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is 2.4 GHz (gigahertz). The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will interfere with any wireless devices in the home. Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart Meters been assessed? The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the FCC exposure guidelines. The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on public health: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Dan, Here is a sample letter that I signed and sent to SCEdison. California Public Utilities Commission 505 Van Ness Avenue San Francisco, California 94102 This letter is to inform you that as a California utility customer, I demand the removal of wireless utility meters, and wireless Smart Grid infrastructure and an immediate restoration of analog utility meters. The World Health Organization has recently classified radio frequency electromagnetic fields (wireless) a possible carcinogen. It is a violation of our rights to force the installation of wireless devices upon utility customers without fair process of public or environmental review, or proof of safety. I demand an investigation and evidentiary hearings into the safety impacts of wireless meters, including over billing, interference, burned out appliances, fires and explosions, and health complaints. The people of California deserve an opportunity to be heard. The opt-out proposals before the CPUC are inadequate responses to the problems consumers are experiencing. A pay to opt-out option is only available to the wealthy. This option is not equitable and therefore may be illegal. In addition, paying to opt out of a safety hazard is wrong. We are already paying more for the Smart Meter that we don't want. We want the same reliable service of an analog meter with a meter reader, and at no additional cost. Impose an immediate moratorium on wireless utility meters and provide immediate relief by restoring the analog meters! Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter! - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere with other wireless devices in my home? Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is 2.4 GHz (gigahertz). The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will interfere with any wireless devices in the home. Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart Meters been assessed? The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the FCC exposure guidelines. The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on public health: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi Dan, Would a tri-field meter be able to pick up these emissions? I have one, but need to buy a nine volt battery for it, as I am out, *sigh*. Thanks, Craig Dan Nave wrote: Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info
That may be so, but you don't appear to be the one who could make a judgement about it... Dan On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Mike W-H th...@telus.net wrote: No amount of exposure is a good amount of exposure of this crap... sorry i don't buy it.. the exposure so called safe limits, who is claiming it is safe? Should you trust them? I don't...are they health professionals?? NO!! So who are they to say what is safe Why take the risk Should we wait for the bodies to pile up before we determine that yes they are unsafe? - Original Message - From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml At what frequency does the smart meter operate and will it interfere with other wireless devices in my home? Smart meters run on two frequencies. The frequency communicating to the electric meter is 900 MHz (megahertz). If the premise also has a gas meter, the frequency from the electric meter to the gas meter is 2.4 GHz (gigahertz). The electric meter frequency is similar to a cell phone and the gas meter frequency is similar to a computer router. Neither device will interfere with any wireless devices in the home. Have the health effects of radiofrequency (RF) emitted from Smart Meters been assessed? The technology being used in the Smart meter system RF exposures from Smart meters and other devices used in the system are far below the FCC exposure guidelines. The FCC's guidelines for human exposure to RF electromagnetic fields were adopted from limits recommended by the U.S. National Council on Radiation Protection and Measurements and the C95.1-1992 guidelines developed by the American National Standards Institute and Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. Learn more about Smart meter RF exposure and concerns about effects on public health: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSSmart Meter Frequency and Info
I don't know. You could read up on it or just try it. Dan On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Craig Chamberlin craigs...@craigcchamberlin.com wrote: Hi Dan, Would a tri-field meter be able to pick up these emissions? I have one, but need to buy a nine volt battery for it, as I am out, *sigh*. Thanks, Craig Dan Nave wrote: Found some useful info at this link. Below the part I attached is also a list of links that may be relevant. Dan http://www.sdge.com/smartmeter/faq.shtml -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
