CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble
Sorry Mike, I meant with no items in ie jewelry etc., just fluid. Normally there would be items in the cleaner with the water and, not being technical, I was just wondering whether that would make a difference. No, I always go way past the minimum level. I'm getting more convinced of it being a problem with the lecithin. The last machine a tried was a bona fide professional cleaner with a 60 minute timer and 2 year guarantee. That was broken in little over 15 minutes of continuous use and the tank temperature was below 30 degrees when it was designed to go up to 80 degrees (Centigrade). All the best Richard
Re: CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble
Why do you think it is the lecithin? And what is your recipe? When I make my let C it is just slightly thicker than water. PT - Original Message - From: Richard Pells To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 9:31 AM Subject: CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble Sorry Mike, I meant with no items in ie jewelry etc., just fluid. Normally there would be items in the cleaner with the water and, not being technical, I was just wondering whether that would make a difference. No, I always go way past the minimum level. I'm getting more convinced of it being a problem with the lecithin. The last machine a tried was a bona fide professional cleaner with a 60 minute timer and 2 year guarantee. That was broken in little over 15 minutes of continuous use and the tank temperature was below 30 degrees when it was designed to go up to 80 degrees (Centigrade). All the best Richard
CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble
The lecithin mixture I'm using is exactly as instructed...3 tablespoons in 8oz of distilled water, plus 1 tablespoon of AA and half a tablespoon of baking soda in 4oz dw. For the larger, professional machine I had to double everything because of the larger tank capacity. I've only ever used James Products though. I've now ordered the large Harbor Freight type. I only thought it must be the lecithin because it's not water. Is there some sort of feed back to the transducer? Does it have to work too hard producing the effect in a thicker solution? I can't think what else it could be. Anyway, I'll try the new one and see how that goes. Thanks Richard
Re: CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble
Sorry Mike, I meant with no items in ie jewelry etc., just fluid. Ahh, that's sensible! lol I don't see why it should break the unit(s). I've run proper professional units with just water in them for extended periods without problems. I can't imagine that the lecithin is going to cause a problem, but without testing, how could we know? My suspicion is you got a couple of bad units... but that seems so unlikely if they're indeed a solid brand. If you get to try another one, try running it for an hour with just water, first? sigh Dunno what else to say... ...except, good luck with the Harbor Freight unit! Peace, Mike D. Normally there would be items in the cleaner with the water and, not being technical, I was just wondering whether that would make a difference. No, I always go way past the minimum level. I'm getting more convinced of it being a problem with the lecithin. The last machine a tried was a bona fide professional cleaner with a 60 minute timer and 2 year guarantee. That was broken in little over 15 minutes of continuous use and the tank temperature was below 30 degrees when it was designed to go up to 80 degrees (Centigrade). All the best Richard [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble
Do you let the lecithin dissolve completely in the water before mixing? I usually let mine set for about 5-6 hours and then whir it in the blender. I also make sure that the AA is thoroughly dissolved. I don't use any baking soda in mine. PT - Original Message - From: Richard Pells To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 3:46 PM Subject: CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble The lecithin mixture I'm using is exactly as instructed...3 tablespoons in 8oz of distilled water, plus 1 tablespoon of AA and half a tablespoon of baking soda in 4oz dw. For the larger, professional machine I had to double everything because of the larger tank capacity. I've only ever used James Products though. I've now ordered the large Harbor Freight type. I only thought it must be the lecithin because it's not water. Is there some sort of feed back to the transducer? Does it have to work too hard producing the effect in a thicker solution? I can't think what else it could be. Anyway, I'll try the new one and see how that goes. Thanks Richard
CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble
Thanks for the comments. A subscriber has kindly contacted me and recommended the larger Harbor Freight machine. He has been using this model for a year now and runs it at 2 x 480 seconds with an hour interval between. Dick did mention that he'd had two smaller models burn out prior to this. The last model I bought was a James 2200m (professional) with the transducer welded to the underside of the tank. The timer had a maximum run time of 60 mins, I only ran it for just over 15 mins. So with those machines it must either be the consistency of the lecithin mixture, or the fact that there's nothing in the tank. I did get to speak with James of James Products and he didn't seem to think there would be a problem running them in this way and assured me that they sell thousands world wide with no problems. Thanks for the advice about looking on Ebay, there's a couple I've added to my watch list, but if the model Dick recommends is available here and I think I've found the same model on Amazon.co.uk, I'll go for that as it's also a bit of a bargain at £30! Thanks again! Richard
Re: CSUltrasonic cleaner trouble
... So with those machines it must either be the consistency of the lecithin mixture, or the fact that there's nothing in the tank. Umm, Richard, what did you mean by there's nothing in the tank? Aren't you making your product directly in the tank of the machine? An ultrasonic cleaner does need to be full to the minimum operating line with *some* kind of liquid if it's not to damage itself. Running it empty or low is not good. Peace, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
