Re: CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements
I think if you eat a healthy diet Dan, this would be true i.e. that we would get everything we need from our food. Unfortunately, hardly any of us here (UK) actually grow our own food anymore so have to have what we get in supermarkets. This of course, is less than perfect so hence we don't get the proper nutrition because it isn't actually *in* the food we eat. We also have pollution and acid rain etc., which contaminates everything. Plus if you are like me, I don't eat very well because I'm too lazy and tend to eat junk, so I feel that if I take good supplements, I am at least having *something* healthy! dee On 25 Oct 2009, at 17:37, Dan Nave wrote: It seems wrong to me, somehow, that we find it necessary to spend large amounts of money on supplements in order to ensure our health. Given that many peoples have been living for thousands of years in relative good health by eating food and food products, I wonder why we find it necessary to spend so much money on supplements... I mean, I personally buy glucosamine for my joints (and it works fairly well) but I think that this same material is available as food (for non vegetarians) in cartilage and things like soups or bone broth made from bones or chicken carcases, etc. I find myself eating more gristle and cartilige instead of cutting it out and throwing it away. These things were used as food by our forefathers... Also, Dr. David Williams MD points out that hyaluronic acid, which can be taken as an injection or supplement for arthritis (extracted from cock's combs), can be extracted by boiling chicken bones and cartilage, as well as the membranes of eggs. Speaking of eggs, can a bio available calcium be made by dissolving the eggshells in vinegar?... Does anyone have any experience in this sort of thing, or have any insight into this subject? Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements
About 750 to 800 mg according to this site: http://nourishedmagazine.com.au/blog/articles/how-to-make-calcium-using-egg-shells Marshall Annie B Smythe wrote: So if the carbonate separates from the calcium and disperses as carbon dioxide bubbles, how much calcium do you get from one egg shell? Anyone know? That should be an easily absorbed form of calcium. Well, unless it turns into something else? Annie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements
I've seen a recommendation to dry the shell, grind it up, and add lemon juice, but that turns the calcium into calcium citrate. Does Apple Cider Vinegar turn it into something else? Will the ascetic acid in the vinegar bind with the calcium to give you another form of calcium? I've also seen a study on how the body handles this type of calcium. It seems that this form of calcium is much better used by the body and increases bone density without increasing blood levels of calcium. Very interesting. Annie Marshall Dudley wrote: About 750 to 800 mg according to this site: http://nourishedmagazine.com.au/blog/articles/how-to-make-calcium-using-egg-shells Marshall Annie B Smythe wrote: So if the carbonate separates from the calcium and disperses as carbon dioxide bubbles, how much calcium do you get from one egg shell? Anyone know? That should be an easily absorbed form of calcium. Well, unless it turns into something else? Annie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements
Annie B Smythe wrote: I've seen a recommendation to dry the shell, grind it up, and add lemon juice, but that turns the calcium into calcium citrate. Does Apple Cider Vinegar turn it into something else? Will the ascetic acid in the vinegar bind with the calcium to give you another form of calcium? Calcium acetate. To get calcium citrate requires using citric acid. Marshall I've also seen a study on how the body handles this type of calcium. It seems that this form of calcium is much better used by the body and increases bone density without increasing blood levels of calcium. Very interesting. Annie Marshall Dudley wrote: About 750 to 800 mg according to this site: http://nourishedmagazine.com.au/blog/articles/how-to-make-calcium-using-egg-shells Marshall Annie B Smythe wrote: So if the carbonate separates from the calcium and disperses as carbon dioxide bubbles, how much calcium do you get from one egg shell? Anyone know? That should be an easily absorbed form of calcium. Well, unless it turns into something else? Annie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements
It seems wrong to me, somehow, that we find it necessary to spend large amounts of money on supplements in order to ensure our health. Given that many peoples have been living for thousands of years in relative good health by eating food and food products, I wonder why we find it necessary to spend so much money on supplements... I mean, I personally buy glucosamine for my joints (and it works fairly well) but I think that this same material is available as food (for non vegetarians) in cartilage and things like soups or bone broth made from bones or chicken carcases, etc. I find myself eating more gristle and cartilige instead of cutting it out and throwing it away. These things were used as food by our forefathers... Also, Dr. David Williams MD points out that hyaluronic acid, which can be taken as an injection or supplement for arthritis (extracted from cock's combs), can be extracted by boiling chicken bones and cartilage, as well as the membranes of eggs. Speaking of eggs, can a bio available calcium be made by dissolving the eggshells in vinegar?... Does anyone have any experience in this sort of thing, or have any insight into this subject? Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements
I remember the egg in the vinegar thing for getting calcium...google it one time and see what comes up, thanks deb From: Dan Nave bhangcha...@gmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, October 25, 2009 10:37:57 AM Subject: CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements It seems wrong to me, somehow, that we find it necessary to spend large amounts of money on supplements in order to ensure our health. Given that many peoples have been living for thousands of years in relative good health by eating food and food products, I wonder why we find it necessary to spend so much money on supplements... I mean, I personally buy glucosamine for my joints (and it works fairly well) but I think that this same material is available as food (for non vegetarians) in cartilage and things like soups or bone broth made from bones or chicken carcases, etc. I find myself eating more gristle and cartilige instead of cutting it out and throwing it away. These things were used as food by our forefathers... Also, Dr. David Williams MD points out that hyaluronic acid, which can be taken as an injection or supplement for arthritis (extracted from cock's combs), can be extracted by boiling chicken bones and cartilage, as well as the membranes of eggs. Speaking of eggs, can a bio available calcium be made by dissolving the eggshells in vinegar?... Does anyone have any experience in this sort of thing, or have any insight into this subject? Dan -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements
[Dan Nave] It seems wrong to me, somehow, that we find it necessary to spend large amounts of money on supplements in order to ensure our health. Given that many peoples have been living for thousands of years in relative good health by eating food and food products, I wonder why we find it necessary to spend so much money on supplements... XXX Probably because our soil is so depleted. And exposure to vaccines, pharmaceuticals, contaminants in air and water, and lousy food (especially gluten, casein and additives like MSG) have ruined our digestion so that even suitably healthy food might not be assimilated properly. I mean, I personally buy glucosamine for my joints (and it works fairly well) but I think that this same material is available as food (for non vegetarians) in cartilage and things like soups or bone broth made from bones or chicken carcases, etc. I find myself eating more gristle and cartilage instead of cutting it out and throwing it away. These things were used as food by our forefathers... XXX The cookbook/reference book Nourishing Traditions discusses this in great detail, and gives mouth-watering recipes. Also, Dr. David Williams MD points out that hyaluronic acid, which can be taken as an injection or supplement for arthritis (extracted from cock's combs), can be extracted by boiling chicken bones and cartilage, as well as the membranes of eggs. Speaking of eggs, can a bio available calcium be made by dissolving the eggshells in vinegar?... XXX Yes. Does anyone have any experience in this sort of thing, or have any insight into this subject? XXX A great list to join is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GFCFNN/ We discuss things like that all the time there. Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author: The Rife Handbook of Frequency Therapy (2009), now available in HARDCOVER The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy http://www.nenahsylver.com www.nenahsylver.com
CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements
So if the carbonate separates from the calcium and disperses as carbon dioxide bubbles, how much calcium do you get from one egg shell? Anyone know? That should be an easily absorbed form of calcium. Well, unless it turns into something else? Annie -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements
[Dan Nave] It seems wrong to me, somehow, that we find it necessary to spend large amounts of money on supplements in order to ensure our health. Given that many peoples have been living for thousands of years in relative good health by eating food and food products, I wonder why we find it necessary to spend so much money on supplements... We do not eat meat the same as our ancestors of even 100 to 150 years go did. LEt alone what humans would have eaten from a killed animal thousands of years ago. We used to eat much more of the animal, liver, kidneys, lungs, etc. What we usually consider offal or guts these days. I buy a lot of our meat from a local butcher, and hardly anyone wants the livers, hearts, or kidneys from either domestic or wild game animals. Not saying I eat either heart of kidney (I've tried and couldn't stomach it), but DH and I both enjoy liver. Eating muscle meat alone just does not provide the same nutrients as eating guts too. LOL. Plus as Nenah said, the planet that supplies our food no longer has clean air or clean water. Nor soils. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSUsing Natural Food (and Food Products) as Supplements
It's an interesting concept but I believe it to be true that our soil, water and air are substandard. My 2 daughters (10 and 12) can't believe there was no such thing as bottled water when I was a kid. I live in rural Ontario, Canada. South of us and sometimes nearby we are not permitted to swim in the lakes due to high bacterial count. IN CANADA??!! If Canada is suffering from polluted water, then %^*! forget it. With all of our melted snow and rainfall and fresh water lakes and we drink filtered water! If this doesn't sum up the problem I don't know what does. The crossover to food isn't hard to make. I have been a customer of a local organic farmer for almost 12 years. But Dan, your point is well-taken. We should consider food as powerful as 'medicine' shouldn't we? In fact, my uber budget-conscious husband often asks me when I come home with organic grapefruits and olive oil for liver cleanses: Should I put this under the category of health or food? Kind regards, Janet -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
