Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children
Real studies are getting such a bad reputation now that really real ones don't get much more credibility with some of us. Real really real studies, where you try it out yourself, are far more believable. One or two miracles soon convince, but consistent results, that's on-going credibility material. Being through nasty shingles near the eye in a week tends to convince. (Rhus Tox initially, self administered, followed by Herpes Zoster from practitioner at earliest possible appointment). Seeing the disappearance of nasty bugs in double quick time also tends to convince. It's so sad that any test/study of homeopathic remedies by orthodox personnel makes a test invalid already to some of us. One has grown to expect dirty tricks and manipulation, sabotage, whatever. Never mind, even if they manage to make homeopathy unavailable, some of us won't want their orthodox pharmaceutical products. Sad, because even if they work (which they should, because some of them at least are tested for frequency compatibility by the kind of programs that produce tailor-made homeopathic remedies) some of us won't believe the results haven't been stroked, manipulated, strangled and shredded because of the actions of a percentage of study organisers. There's a fuss going on in Australia at the moment about bogus or incorrect 'study' results. http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2013/s3823977.htm SOPHIE SCOTT, REPORTER: In May this year, details of a ground-breaking new skin cancer treatment were revealed. The discovery of the so-called super drug was led by renowned biologist Professor Levon Khachigian. LEVON KHACHIGIAN, SCIENTIST, UNSW: It sends the tumour into a death spiral and as a consequence the body's own defence systems clean up the tumour. SOPHIE SCOTT: The drug is a DNA enzyme called DZ13. It targets cancer cells by switching off a master gene, slowing down the growth of tumours. The potential of the drug was hailed by experts in the field. The study has been halted, but the person who raised the alarm didn't have her contract renewed. R On 13/08/2013 12:13 PM, Steve G wrote: I don't think that any study conducted by a homoeopathist would be very credible considering that these are people who believe that homeopathy is a real medical treatment. Are there any real studies that lead us to such findings?
Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children
Did you not read the article In 1992, a New Zealand group called the /Immunization Awareness Society/ (IAS) surveyed 245 families with a total of 495 children. The children were divided with 226 vaccinated and 269 unvaccinated. Eighty-one families had both vaccinated and unvaccinated children. The differences were dramatic, with unvaccinated children showing far less incidence of common childhood ailments than vaccinated children (http://www.vaccineinjury.info/images/stories/ias1992study.pdf). From a different survey in the South Island New Zealand city of Christchurch, among children born during or after 1977, none of the unvaccinated children had asthma events where nearly 25% of the vaccinated children were treated for asthma by age 10 (http://www.vaccineinjury.info/images/stories/ias1992study.pdf). A PhD immunologist who wrote the book /Vaccine Illusion/, Dr. Tetyana Obukhanych, has gone against the dogma of her medical training and background. She asserts that true immunity to any disease is not conferred by vaccines. Exposure to the disease, whether contracted or not, does (http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/06/13/interview-with-phd-immunologist-dr-tetyana-obukhanych-by-catherine-frompovich/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Feed%3A+vaccinationcouncil+%28International+Medical+Council+on+Vaccination%29). Perhaps the most informal grass-roots survey going on now is by Tim O'Shea, DC, author of /Vaccination is Not Immunization/. He simply has non-vaccinating parents email him with comparisons of their children's health to friends and families they know with vaccinated children. That and more is available on his site (http://www.thedoctorwithin.com http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/unvaccinated/parents-of-unvaccinated-children/). Marshall On 8/13/2013 12:13 AM, Steve G wrote: I don't think that any study conducted by a homoeopathist would be very credible considering that these are people who believe that homeopathy is a real medical treatment. Are there any real studies that lead us to such findings? Steve *From:* Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 11:13 PM *Subject:* CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children Vaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children: http://worldtruth.tv/vaccinated-children-have-up-to-500-more-disease-than-unvaccinated-children/ Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6073 - Release Date: 08/12/13
Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children
I was taught that the immune system is an organ that needs to be exercised in order to grow strong. Vaccinations short circuit the immune system and we lose the protection it offers. There are people who argue that the AIDs plague to the generation it did because they were the first generation to be vaccinated. Food for thought. PT From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:03 AM Subject: Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children Did you not read the article In 1992, a New Zealand group called the Immunization Awareness Society (IAS) surveyed 245 families with a total of 495 children. The children were divided with 226 vaccinated and 269 unvaccinated. Eighty-one families had both vaccinated and unvaccinated children. The differences were dramatic, with unvaccinated children showing far less incidence of common childhood ailments than vaccinated children (http://www.vaccineinjury.info/images/stories/ias1992study.pdf). From a different survey in the South Island New Zealand city of Christchurch, among children born during or after 1977, none of the unvaccinated children had asthma events where nearly 25% of the vaccinated children were treated for asthma by age 10 (http://www.vaccineinjury.info/images/stories/ias1992study.pdf). A PhD immunologist who wrote the book Vaccine Illusion, Dr. Tetyana Obukhanych, has gone against the dogma of her medical training and background. She asserts that true immunity to any disease is not conferred by vaccines. Exposure to the disease, whether contracted or not, does (http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/06/13/interview-with-phd-immunologist-dr-tetyana-obukhanych-by-catherine-frompovich/?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Feed%3A+vaccinationcouncil+%28International+Medical+Council+on+Vaccination%29). Perhaps the most informal grass-roots survey going on now is by Tim O'Shea, DC, author of Vaccination is Not Immunization. He simply has non-vaccinating parents email him with comparisons of their children's health to friends and families they know with vaccinated children. That and more is available on his site (http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/unvaccinated/parents-of-unvaccinated-children/). Marshall On 8/13/2013 12:13 AM, Steve G wrote: I don't think that any study conducted by a homoeopathist would be very credible considering that these are people who believe that homeopathy is a real medical treatment. Are there any real studies that lead us to such findings? Steve From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:13 PM Subject: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children Vaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children: http://worldtruth.tv/vaccinated-children-have-up-to-500-more-disease-than-unvaccinated-children/ Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6073 - Release Date: 08/12/13
Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children
Well prior to the take over of the medical schools by Rockefeller, who pushed allopathy, ALL MEDICAL TREATMENT was homeopathy. Olushola On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Steve G chube...@yahoo.com wrote: I don't think that any study conducted by a homoeopathist would be very credible considering that these are people who believe that homeopathy is a real medical treatment. Are there any real studies that lead us to such findings? Steve -- *From:* Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Sent:* Monday, August 12, 2013 11:13 PM *Subject:* CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children Vaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children: http://worldtruth.tv/vaccinated-children-have-up-to-500-more-disease-than-unvaccinated-children/ Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children
I don’t think so, dear Olushola! Herbal medicine has had a far longer and ancient heritage than any other form of medical treatment. It goes way back to the stone age. Do a little more research. Homeopathy is relatively new in the general scheme of things and is still less popular today than herbal remedies. doug From: olushola camara [mailto:camaramah...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:20 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children Well prior to the take over of the medical schools by Rockefeller, who pushed allopathy, ALL MEDICAL TREATMENT was homeopathy. Olushola
RE: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children
Whenever opportunity presents itself I tell people that the establishment will
eventually vaccinate the human species to a point whereby we won't have a
natural immune system anymore, and will end up being totally dependant on one
medication or another for survival. Of course I'm considered a dickhead for
holding my own views on things {the road to give a hoot is ummm...That way}.
Speaking of food for thought...
I bought what I thought was chicken schnitzels from a supermarket several weeks
ago when we travelled interstate to Melbourne, only to realise when I was
preparing to cook them, they all looked *identical* in their heart shape. I
pondered this for a while thinking it looked strange, then suddenly realised it
was processed chicken made in the form of a fritz, or long sausage if you like,
and sliced up like a loaf of bread and sold as chicken schnitzels, I was
utterly gobsmacked cos I had never seen this before, it could have been road
kill with flavouring added for all I knew? Let's hope butchers don't become
another extinct species for the statisticians.
Sorry if this was off topic, but it riles me that the Corporation and the
Establishment are killing us all - - slowly - - and most people are too dumb or
stupid to see what it's doing to their health. No organisation can spend
billions over decades on cancer research for example and all they can show for
it is more 'treatments'...What The...?
George Carlin did a brilliant skit about 'Germs', hilarious, but so true. I'm
so lucky I grew up in the country in that era as a kid.
Sorry for highjacking your thread too PT, I'll get back in my box now.
N.
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 07:21:58 -0700
From: ptf2...@bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than
unvaccinated children
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
I was taught that the immune system is an organ that needs to be exercised in
order to grow strong. Vaccinations short circuit the immune system and we lose
the protection it offers. There are people who argue that the AIDs plague to
the generation it did because they were the first generation to be vaccinated.
Food for thought.
PT
Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children
I can agree with that, but homeopathy will eventually replace allopathic drug therapy as it is way better without the side effects. Joe On 13/08/2013 10:56 AM, polo wrote: I don’t think so, dear Olushola! Herbal medicine has had a far longer and ancient heritage than any other form of medical treatment. It goes way back to the stone age. Do a little more research. Homeopathy is relatively new in the general scheme of things and is still less popular today than herbal remedies. doug *From:*olushola camara [mailto:camaramah...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:20 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children Well prior to the take over of the medical schools by Rockefeller, who pushed allopathy, ALL MEDICAL TREATMENT was homeopathy. Olushola
RE: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children
It is indeed food for thought. I was taught NOT to take an aspirin to reduce fever, for example, because the bug would live longer. I am 77 and surprisingly healthy -- and refuse to take Rx meds. (Supplements, yes) JudyDownMaine ___ JOY Is Lovely Liquid Light is a quote from my biography Patched, A Spiritual Memoir Written by me, Judy K. Happily available on Amazon. -Original Message- From: PT Ferrance [mailto:ptf2...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:22 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children I was taught that the immune system is an organ that needs to be exercised in order to grow strong. Vaccinations short circuit the immune system and we lose the protection it offers. There are people who argue that the AIDs plague to the generation it did because they were the first generation to be vaccinated. Food for thought. PT -- -- From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2013 10:03 AM Subject: Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children Did you not read the article In 1992, a New Zealand group called the Immunization Awareness Society (IAS) surveyed 245 families with a total of 495 children. The children were divided with 226 vaccinated and 269 unvaccinated. Eighty-one families had both vaccinated and unvaccinated children. The differences were dramatic, with unvaccinated children showing far less incidence of common childhood ailments than vaccinated children (http://www.vaccineinjury.info/images/stories/ias1 992study.pdf). From a different survey in the South Island New Zealand city of Christchurch, among children born during or after 1977, none of the unvaccinated children had asthma events where nearly 25% of the vaccinated children were treated for asthma by age 10 (http://www.vaccineinjury.info/images/stories/ias1 992study.pdf). A PhD immunologist who wrote the book Vaccine Illusion, Dr. Tetyana Obukhanych, has gone against the dogma of her medical training and background. She asserts that true immunity to any disease is not conferred by vaccines. Exposure to the disease, whether contracted or not, does (http://www.vaccinationcouncil.org/2012/06/13/inte rview-with-phd-immunologist-dr-tetyana-obukhanych- by-catherine-frompovich/?utm_source=feedburnerutm _medium=emailutm_campaign=Feed%3A+vaccinationcoun cil+%28International+Medical+Council+on+Vaccinatio n%29). Perhaps the most informal grass-roots survey going on now is by Tim O'Shea, DC, author of Vaccination is Not Immunization. He simply has non-vaccinating parents email him with comparisons of their children's health to friends and families they know with vaccinated children. That and more is available on his site (http://www.thedoctorwithin.com/unvaccinated/paren ts-of-unvaccinated-children/). Marshall On 8/13/2013 12:13 AM, Steve G wrote: I don't think that any study conducted by a homoeopathist would be very credible considering that these are people who believe that homeopathy is a real medical treatment. Are there any real studies that lead us to such findings? Steve -- From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:13 PM Subject: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children Vaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children: http://worldtruth.tv/vaccinated-children-have-up -to-500-more-disease-than-unvaccinated-children/ Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org/ Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject =unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo .com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1432 / Virus Database: 3204/6073 - Release Date: 08/12/13
Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children
Okay, maybe I don't understand homeopathy well enough, I thought that it was a natural form of medicine that includes herbs. Thanks for the clarification Olushola On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 10:56 AM, polo dah...@centurytel.net wrote: I don’t think so, dear Olushola! ** ** Herbal medicine has had a far longer and ancient heritage than any other form of medical treatment. It goes way back to the stone age. Do a little more research. Homeopathy is relatively new in the general scheme of things and is still less popular today than herbal remedies. ** ** doug ** ** *From:* olushola camara [mailto:camaramah...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, August 13, 2013 9:20 AM *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com *Subject:* Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children ** ** Well prior to the take over of the medical schools by Rockefeller, who pushed allopathy, ALL MEDICAL TREATMENT was homeopathy. Olushola
CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children
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Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children
I don't think that any study conducted by a homoeopathist would be very credible considering that these are people who believe that homeopathy is a real medical treatment. Are there any real studies that lead us to such findings? Steve From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:13 PM Subject: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children Vaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children: http://worldtruth.tv/vaccinated-children-have-up-to-500-more-disease-than-unvaccinated-children/ Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children
Any treatment is real if it works! ;-) Even tho vaccines are 'the enemy' IMO, I have no idea whether results of this study are 'valid' or not. Probably, but that's opinion. What is a real study? Data can be skewed in any way needed, particularly towards the money and who funded the study. Big pharma has much deeper pockets than most anyone in alt med. So you'll find pages and pages of 'data' pushing drugs and other poisons. Not so much so with conflicting data (or opinion). Teri and the Happy Hooligans -Original Message- From: Steve G chube...@yahoo.com Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2013 21:13:08 To: silver-list@eskimo.comsilver-list@eskimo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children I don't think that any study conducted by a homoeopathist would be very credible considering that these are people who believe that homeopathy is a real medical treatment. Are there any real studies that lead us to such findings? Steve From: Marshall mdud...@king-cart.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, August 12, 2013 11:13 PM Subject: CSVaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children Vaccinated children are get 500% more diseases than unvaccinated children: http://worldtruth.tv/vaccinated-children-have-up-to-500-more-disease-than-unvaccinated-children/ Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org Unsubscribe: mailto:silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com?subject=unsubscribe Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html Off-Topic discussions: mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com List Owner: Mike Devour mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
