RE: CSVirus and address book

2003-06-12 Thread James-Osborn: Holmes-Junior
For amazing info about MS Internet Explorer, see (pardon me, but this is the
site name) 

www.fuckmicrosoft.com

The National Security Agency has a trap door into it. 

JOH

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Re: CSVirus and address book
From: Robert Berger
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:33:26

   Mike,

   Anybody that uses Microsoft browsers are soft in the head !!!

   Go to Netscape or Eudora or some other one.

   Ole Bob

I agree. I run Win 3.1 and use Netscape 2.02 for email. It doesn't open 
attachments and doesn't respond to scripts. The I run my simple spam kill 
software and put the spam into a separate file so I can look at it.

It is amazing the tricks spammers use to try to get past spam filters. 
Unfortunately for them, the tricks are easy to spot by simply analyzing 
the header. 

For example, someone who forges an originating date several days or years 
in the future tries to put his message at the top of the list. Similarly, 
a date months or years in the past shows he is trying to appear at the 
bottom.

None of my friends are this fast or this slow:)

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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RE: CSVirus and address book

2003-06-12 Thread Joseph Fritz

Scary I need to learn UNIX and teach my wife:)
Joseph Fritz

At 02:03 AM 6/12/2003 -0600, you wrote:

For amazing info about MS Internet Explorer, see (pardon me, but this is the
site name)

www.fuckmicrosoft.com

The National Security Agency has a trap door into it.

JOH

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From: Mike Monett [mailto:fcue0n...@sneakemail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:42 PM
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Subject: Re: CSVirus and address book


Re: CSVirus and address book
From: Robert Berger
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:33:26

   Mike,

   Anybody that uses Microsoft browsers are soft in the head !!!

   Go to Netscape or Eudora or some other one.

   Ole Bob

I agree. I run Win 3.1 and use Netscape 2.02 for email. It doesn't open
attachments and doesn't respond to scripts. The I run my simple spam kill
software and put the spam into a separate file so I can look at it.

It is amazing the tricks spammers use to try to get past spam filters.
Unfortunately for them, the tricks are easy to spot by simply analyzing
the header.

For example, someone who forges an originating date several days or years
in the future tries to put his message at the top of the list. Similarly,
a date months or years in the past shows he is trying to appear at the
bottom.

None of my friends are this fast or this slow:)

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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Re: CSVirus and address book

2003-06-09 Thread Marshall Dudley
Mike Monett wrote:

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 CSVirus and address book
 From: Robert Berger
 Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:24:00

EIS'ers,

About 4  years ago this thing raised it head and  the  solution is
very simple.

Make a new entry in your address book that consists of five zero's
0 When the virus hit the  is recognizes that this  is no
a valid address and stops.

Ole Bob

   Hi Robert,

   That is  about  the  silliest  thing I  have  heard  of.  Are  you a
   programmer? It  would  take  a really sloppy  one  to  fail  on that
   condition.

Actually that is done by sloppy programmers, those that work for Microsoft.
I don't think it keeps the virus from infecting your computer, only from
successfully sending out emails.  Apparently if you put that in as an email
address outlook express will refuse to send it, saying it is an invalid
address and abort the email attempted by the virus. Actually that is not
slopply programming, it is the kind of error checking and recovery I wish
the Microsoft programmers would do more often.  But I don't think it does a
thing to prevent the virus from infecting your computer.  Also it is my
understanding that the  has to be the first email address, otherwise the
ones before will still go out but since I don't run Outlook, I am really not
sure about that.

As far as being sloppy programming by the virus author, if you ever looked
at viruses they typically use system facilities as much as possible.  If
they don't then they become dependent on the hardware, version of the
operating system, version of the outlook express, and become extremely
large.  So using the system and program calls to do the work is not really
sloppy programming either.

And yes, I am a programmer..

Marshall


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Re: CSVirus and address book

2003-06-09 Thread Robert Berger
Mike,

Anybody that uses Microsoft browsers are soft in the head !!!

Go to Netscape or Eudora or some other one.

Ole Bob




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Re: CSVirus and address book

2003-06-09 Thread Mike Monett
Re: CSVirus and address book
From: Robert Berger
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 15:33:26

   Mike,

   Anybody that uses Microsoft browsers are soft in the head !!!

   Go to Netscape or Eudora or some other one.

   Ole Bob

I agree. I run Win 3.1 and use Netscape 2.02 for email. It doesn't open 
attachments and doesn't respond to scripts. The I run my simple spam kill 
software and put the spam into a separate file so I can look at it.

It is amazing the tricks spammers use to try to get past spam filters. 
Unfortunately for them, the tricks are easy to spot by simply analyzing 
the header. 

For example, someone who forges an originating date several days or years 
in the future tries to put his message at the top of the list. Similarly, 
a date months or years in the past shows he is trying to appear at the 
bottom.

None of my friends are this fast or this slow:)

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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CSVirus and address book

2003-06-08 Thread Robert Berger
EIS'ers,

About 4 years ago this thing raised it head and the solution is very
simple.

Make a new entry in your address book that consists of five zero's
0
When the virus hit the  is recognizes that this is no a valid
address and stops.

Ole Bob


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Re: CSVirus and address book

2003-06-08 Thread Mike Monett
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CSVirus and address book
From: Robert Berger
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:24:00

   EIS'ers,

   About 4  years ago this thing raised it head and  the  solution is
   very simple.

   Make a new entry in your address book that consists of five zero's
   0 When the virus hit the  is recognizes that this  is no
   a valid address and stops.

   Ole Bob

  Hi Robert,

  That is  about  the  silliest  thing I  have  heard  of.  Are  you a
  programmer? It  would  take  a really sloppy  one  to  fail  on that
  condition.

  Viruses have  changed  a great deal in the past 4  years.  They have
  become much more robust and sophisticated. The programmers  have had
  plenty of  time to whet their skills trying to keep up with  all the
  changes Microsoft  has  made.  They have  no  trouble  modifying the
  Registry, or  disabling antivirus software. If they can  do  that, a
  minor flaw in an address book entry is not going to stop them.

  I really  don't  think that is very good advise to  give  people. It
  probably won't  work,  and will only give people  a  false  sense of
  security.

  Tell you what. I'll email you all the viruses I got last  month, and
  you tell me which ones fail on that entry:)

Best Regards,

Mike Monett


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Re: CSVirus and address book

2003-06-08 Thread C Creel
http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/quickfix.htm


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Re: CSVirus and address book

2003-06-08 Thread CKing001
Oh, I dunno.
A false address in the mail list will possibly alert you that something
triggered the mail error alert.
It would make me do a scan at the very least.
It's a easy trap to set.

That bugbear thingy has tried several times to get me this week alone, so be
vewy, vewy cautious out there.

Chuck
I pray for boredom but it never comes 

On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:00:32 -0400, C Creel ccr...@adelphia.net wrote:


http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/quickfix.htm


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Re: CSVirus and address book

2003-06-08 Thread Hank
I don't think the 0 Bob talked about will work anymore. I have all my other 
addresses in each mailbox. (I have 5) If a virus sends to all my list then I 
will get it in each mailbox. At least I will know I am sending it..
Sincerely Yours,
Hank

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  Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:15 PM
  Subject: Re: CSVirus and address book


  Oh, I dunno.
  A false address in the mail list will possibly alert you that something
  triggered the mail error alert.
  It would make me do a scan at the very least.
  It's a easy trap to set.

  That bugbear thingy has tried several times to get me this week alone, so be
  vewy, vewy cautious out there.

  Chuck
  I pray for boredom but it never comes 

  On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:00:32 -0400, C Creel ccr...@adelphia.net wrote:

  
  http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/quickfix.htm


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Re: CSVirus and address book

2003-06-08 Thread d.linen
My isp caught 3 of them for me last night and deleted them before they
could reach me. They sent me a warning about the three emails. 



cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:
 
 Oh, I dunno.
 A false address in the mail list will possibly alert you that something
 triggered the mail error alert.
 It would make me do a scan at the very least.
 It's a easy trap to set.
 
 That bugbear thingy has tried several times to get me this week alone, so be
 vewy, vewy cautious out there.
 
 Chuck
 I pray for boredom but it never comes
 
 On Sun, 08 Jun 2003 23:00:32 -0400, C Creel ccr...@adelphia.net wrote:
 
 
 http://www.snopes.com/computer/virus/quickfix.htm
 
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