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Thanks for your reply, Trudy. The Lord bless you, too, . Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 22:17:04 +0200 Yes Ruth thats the best you can do...at the meetingsgood idea. I also drink a lot of well-water and tea...rooibos and mosttimes green tea. Now I know that I have to make more pure food...not the salades from the grocery...no ve-tsin and msg and E-numbers from more than 200... and take fresh oranges ...apples.. carrots a.s. o. ,I have a juicer too. So we will be healthier to make and bring our own food. Thank you Ruth, Be blessed. Trudy - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:33 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Hi, Trudy! I have the same problem, like with our ladies' group at church. Most of what they have to eat after a meeting are food I don't eat. I almost said can't, but that wouldn't necessarily be true. I'm not sure what I reallycan and can't eat, I just try to eat whole foods that will help my body and not hurt it. Then I juice some vegetables and cook others over low heat, or steam or bake them. I just drink water at the meetings and use the time to talk with friends. When I go to someone's home, or to a church supper, and so forth, I bring my own food. Sometimes there are foods provided that I feel safe with, but when I have my own, I know I'm okay. Mostly I only eat meals outside my home with other members of family. I let the others know how delicious their food looks, but stick to what I think is good for me. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:31:10 +0200 Ruth I have learned a lot these days! http://www.truthinlabeling.org/index.html http://www.truthinlabeling.org/UnwantedAdverseReactions.html The D-Mannose I can buy in The Netherlands. I have a lovely Indonesian daughter in lawnow I have to tell her to cook without vetsin...and soja sauses...maybe we have to look in a bio shop for other products. . She makes such a nice mealsalways nices snacks...always cooking...always so coosy...how can I tell her not to cook so often for me.??? Trudy - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:17 PM Subject: RE: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Hi again, I don't use Msg either, and almost never eat in restaurants. I use a celiac diet, although I am not a diagnosed celiac patient. I read labels. Stick to fruits, vegetables, still eat meat daily since I have been losing weight and feel I need that. I use brown rice and old-fashioned oatmeal for grains, also have trouble with the tomato-potato family and get alot of gas with cabbage family, but try some now and then. Am also working on getting away from drugstore variety vitamins. This is hard because so much of theorganic food, etc. is so expensive. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: noblemet...@bellsouth.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 7:42:15 -0400 I,too, have the high stomach pain . I believe mine is sugar related. I have found that many restaurants are using sugar to make all their foods taste better. Msg also causes the pain. From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Date: 2006/09/03 Sun PM 05:27:38 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Yes, I have had it at other times. Still have it today, though the diarrhea and nausea has stopped. This isn't under my right ribcage, though, it is more centered, if anything slightly to the left of center. I have to see a cardiologist at the end of this month for mild abnormalities in the imaging portion of a recent stress test. At the moment, I'm not sure what is causing what. Whole bunch of stuff happening to me that I'm trying to get figured out. I have had this high stomach pain off and on for quite a while now. Supposed to try Nexium (changed to Protonix), but neither seemed to do anything and both have what I consider unacceptable side effects. sol ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods
Re: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections
Hi, Trudy! I have the same problem, like with our ladies' group at church. Most of what they have to eat after a meeting are food I don't eat. I almost said can't, but that wouldn't necessarily be true. I'm not sure what I reallycan and can't eat, I just try to eat whole foods that will help my body and not hurt it. Then I juice some vegetables and cook others over low heat, or steam or bake them. I just drink water at the meetings and use the time to talk with friends. When I go to someone's home, or to a church supper, and so forth, I bring my own food. Sometimes there are foods provided that I feel safe with, but when I have my own, I know I'm okay. Mostly I only eat meals outside my home with other members of family. I let the others know how delicious their food looks, but stick to what I think is good for me. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:31:10 +0200 Ruth I have learned a lot these days! http://www.truthinlabeling.org/index.html http://www.truthinlabeling.org/UnwantedAdverseReactions.html The D-Mannose I can buy in The Netherlands. I have a lovely Indonesian daughter in lawnow I have to tell her to cook without vetsin...and soja sauses...maybe we have to look in a bio shop for other products. . She makes such a nice mealsalways nices snacks...always cooking...always so coosy...how can I tell her not to cook so often for me.??? Trudy - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:17 PM Subject: RE: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Hi again, I don't use Msg either, and almost never eat in restaurants. I use a celiac diet, although I am not a diagnosed celiac patient. I read labels. Stick to fruits, vegetables, still eat meat daily since I have been losing weight and feel I need that. I use brown rice and old-fashioned oatmeal for grains, also have trouble with the tomato-potato family and get alot of gas with cabbage family, but try some now and then. Am also working on getting away from drugstore variety vitamins. This is hard because so much of theorganic food, etc. is so expensive. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: noblemet...@bellsouth.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 7:42:15 -0400 I,too, have the high stomach pain . I believe mine is sugar related. I have found that many restaurants are using sugar to make all their foods taste better. Msg also causes the pain. From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Date: 2006/09/03 Sun PM 05:27:38 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Yes, I have had it at other times. Still have it today, though the diarrhea and nausea has stopped. This isn't under my right ribcage, though, it is more centered, if anything slightly to the left of center. I have to see a cardiologist at the end of this month for mild abnormalities in the imaging portion of a recent stress test. At the moment, I'm not sure what is causing what. Whole bunch of stuff happening to me that I'm trying to get figured out. I have had this high stomach pain off and on for quite a while now. Supposed to try Nexium (changed to Protonix), but neither seemed to do anything and both have what I consider unacceptable side effects. sol ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods. Today I had it right after eating a yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of peanut butter. I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have this sensation at other times? Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Yes Ruth thats the best you can do...at the meetingsgood idea. I also drink a lot of well-water and tea...rooibos and mosttimes green tea. Now I know that I have to make more pure food...not the salades from the grocery...no ve-tsin and msg and E-numbers from more than 200... and take fresh oranges ...apples.. carrots a.s. o. ,I have a juicer too. So we will be healthier to make and bring our own food. Thank you Ruth, Be blessed. Trudy - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 7:33 PM Subject: Re: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Hi, Trudy! I have the same problem, like with our ladies' group at church. Most of what they have to eat after a meeting are food I don't eat. I almost said can't, but that wouldn't necessarily be true. I'm not sure what I reallycan and can't eat, I just try to eat whole foods that will help my body and not hurt it. Then I juice some vegetables and cook others over low heat, or steam or bake them. I just drink water at the meetings and use the time to talk with friends. When I go to someone's home, or to a church supper, and so forth, I bring my own food. Sometimes there are foods provided that I feel safe with, but when I have my own, I know I'm okay. Mostly I only eat meals outside my home with other members of family. I let the others know how delicious their food looks, but stick to what I think is good for me. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 23:31:10 +0200 Ruth I have learned a lot these days! http://www.truthinlabeling.org/index.html http://www.truthinlabeling.org/UnwantedAdverseReactions.html The D-Mannose I can buy in The Netherlands. I have a lovely Indonesian daughter in lawnow I have to tell her to cook without vetsin...and soja sauses...maybe we have to look in a bio shop for other products. . She makes such a nice mealsalways nices snacks...always cooking...always so coosy...how can I tell her not to cook so often for me.??? Trudy - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:17 PM Subject: RE: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Hi again, I don't use Msg either, and almost never eat in restaurants. I use a celiac diet, although I am not a diagnosed celiac patient. I read labels. Stick to fruits, vegetables, still eat meat daily since I have been losing weight and feel I need that. I use brown rice and old-fashioned oatmeal for grains, also have trouble with the tomato-potato family and get alot of gas with cabbage family, but try some now and then. Am also working on getting away from drugstore variety vitamins. This is hard because so much of theorganic food, etc. is so expensive. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: noblemet...@bellsouth.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 7:42:15 -0400 I,too, have the high stomach pain . I believe mine is sugar related. I have found that many restaurants are using sugar to make all their foods taste better. Msg also causes the pain. From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Date: 2006/09/03 Sun PM 05:27:38 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Yes, I have had it at other times. Still have it today, though the diarrhea and nausea has stopped. This isn't under my right ribcage, though, it is more centered, if anything slightly to the left of center. I have to see a cardiologist at the end of this month for mild abnormalities in the imaging portion of a recent stress test. At the moment, I'm not sure what is causing what. Whole bunch of stuff happening to me that I'm trying to get figured out. I have had this high stomach pain off and on for quite a while now. Supposed to try Nexium (changed to Protonix), but neither seemed to do anything and both have what I consider unacceptable side effects. sol ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods. Today I had it right after eating a yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of peanut butter. I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have this sensation at other times? Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver
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I,too, have the high stomach pain . I believe mine is sugar related. I have found that many restaurants are using sugar to make all their foods taste better. Msg also causes the pain. From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Date: 2006/09/03 Sun PM 05:27:38 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Yes, I have had it at other times. Still have it today, though the diarrhea and nausea has stopped. This isn't under my right ribcage, though, it is more centered, if anything slightly to the left of center. I have to see a cardiologist at the end of this month for mild abnormalities in the imaging portion of a recent stress test. At the moment, I'm not sure what is causing what. Whole bunch of stuff happening to me that I'm trying to get figured out. I have had this high stomach pain off and on for quite a while now. Supposed to try Nexium (changed to Protonix), but neither seemed to do anything and both have what I consider unacceptable side effects. sol ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods. Today I had it right after eating a yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of peanut butter. I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have this sensation at other times? Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hmmm, sugar related---that is a possibility for me, I wonder if too much of any carbs could do it. I severely limit sugars to near zero, but have been liberalizing my low carb diet in recent months since I seemed to be able to tolerate it without blood sugar problems. I think I'll try tightening up my diet again and see if that helps. Or at least keep a food journal for a while and see if there is correlation between higher carb days and the stomach pain. Thanks! sol noblemet...@bellsouth.net wrote: I,too, have the high stomach pain . I believe mine is sugar related. I have found that many restaurants are using sugar to make all their foods taste better. Msg also causes the pain. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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From Ruth Strackbein From: noblemet...@bellsouth.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 7:42:15 -0400 I,too, have the high stomach pain . I believe mine is sugar related. I have found that many restaurants are using sugar to make all their foods taste better. Msg also causes the pain. From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Date: 2006/09/03 Sun PM 05:27:38 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Yes, I have had it at other times. Still have it today, though the diarrhea and nausea has stopped. This isn't under my right ribcage, though, it is more centered, if anything slightly to the left of center. I have to see a cardiologist at the end of this month for mild abnormalities in the imaging portion of a recent stress test. At the moment, I'm not sure what is causing what. Whole bunch of stuff happening to me that I'm trying to get figured out. I have had this high stomach pain off and on for quite a while now. Supposed to try Nexium (changed to Protonix), but neither seemed to do anything and both have what I consider unacceptable side effects. sol ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods. Today I had it right after eating a yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of peanut butter. I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have this sensation at other times? Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi again, I don't use Msg either, and almost never eat in restaurants. I use a celiac diet, although I am not a diagnosed celiac patient. I read labels. Stick to fruits, vegetables, still eat meat daily since I have been losing weight and feel I need that. I use brown rice and old-fashioned oatmeal for grains, also have trouble with the tomato-potato family and get alot of gas with cabbage family, but try some now and then. Am also working on getting away from drugstore variety vitamins. This is hard because so much of theorganic food, etc. is so expensive. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: noblemet...@bellsouth.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 7:42:15 -0400 I,too, have the high stomach pain . I believe mine is sugar related. I have found that many restaurants are using sugar to make all their foods taste better. Msg also causes the pain. From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Date: 2006/09/03 Sun PM 05:27:38 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Yes, I have had it at other times. Still have it today, though the diarrhea and nausea has stopped. This isn't under my right ribcage, though, it is more centered, if anything slightly to the left of center. I have to see a cardiologist at the end of this month for mild abnormalities in the imaging portion of a recent stress test. At the moment, I'm not sure what is causing what. Whole bunch of stuff happening to me that I'm trying to get figured out. I have had this high stomach pain off and on for quite a while now. Supposed to try Nexium (changed to Protonix), but neither seemed to do anything and both have what I consider unacceptable side effects. sol ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods. Today I had it right after eating a yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of peanut butter. I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have this sensation at other times? Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ruth I have learned a lot these days! http://www.truthinlabeling.org/index.html http://www.truthinlabeling.org/UnwantedAdverseReactions.html The D-Mannose I can buy in The Netherlands. I have a lovely Indonesian daughter in lawnow I have to tell her to cook without vetsin...and soja sauses...maybe we have to look in a bio shop for other products. . She makes such a nice mealsalways nices snacks...always cooking...always so coosy...how can I tell her not to cook so often for me.??? Trudy - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:17 PM Subject: RE: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Hi again, I don't use Msg either, and almost never eat in restaurants. I use a celiac diet, although I am not a diagnosed celiac patient. I read labels. Stick to fruits, vegetables, still eat meat daily since I have been losing weight and feel I need that. I use brown rice and old-fashioned oatmeal for grains, also have trouble with the tomato-potato family and get alot of gas with cabbage family, but try some now and then. Am also working on getting away from drugstore variety vitamins. This is hard because so much of theorganic food, etc. is so expensive. Ruth From Ruth Strackbein From: noblemet...@bellsouth.net Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSRe: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 7:42:15 -0400 I,too, have the high stomach pain . I believe mine is sugar related. I have found that many restaurants are using sugar to make all their foods taste better. Msg also causes the pain. From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Date: 2006/09/03 Sun PM 05:27:38 EDT To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Yes, I have had it at other times. Still have it today, though the diarrhea and nausea has stopped. This isn't under my right ribcage, though, it is more centered, if anything slightly to the left of center. I have to see a cardiologist at the end of this month for mild abnormalities in the imaging portion of a recent stress test. At the moment, I'm not sure what is causing what. Whole bunch of stuff happening to me that I'm trying to get figured out. I have had this high stomach pain off and on for quite a while now. Supposed to try Nexium (changed to Protonix), but neither seemed to do anything and both have what I consider unacceptable side effects. sol ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods. Today I had it right after eating a yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of peanut butter. I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have this sensation at other times? Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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How does one muscle test? Seems to me I saw something about that sometime in another message, but failed to save it. Thanks, Ruth From: Mike and Nancy nancym...@delisefamily.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 21:51:53 -0500 Ruth, Have you tried to muscle test to see if you are allergic to these foods? Nancy - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 4:01 PM Subject: RE: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods. Today I had it right after eating a yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of peanut butter. I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have this sensation at other times? Ruth From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:44:37 -0600 This is extremely interesting. I was just looking up Nitrofurantoin, as I was just given a prescription for it, for low grade bladder infection. After what I read about it online I decided not to fill the Rx. And what Gertrude says adds extra emphasis to my concerns about its side effects. I have decided to simply take more oral EIS (haven't been using much orally this past year), and add a little DMSO to a mouthful once or twice a day. Also have some D-mannose, but got a big attack of nausea, stomach pain (high stomach, almost under the breastbone) and diarrhea this morning after my first dose, wondering if anyone else has had this happen or if it is just a coincidence. I had also taken some MSM and Ribose, neither of which has bothered me previously. Whatever the cause, a couple glasses of EIS fixed it in a couple of hours. sol Gertrude wrote: Mike I can tell you the same story...I had an e-coli and got anti-bioticait did not work...later Nitrofurantoine.it did not heal and in an alternative medicine book I saw that even Nitrofurantoine causes bladder disease.! I make the CS about 4 years now...but for the bladder I have to take more than normal,that is my experience. Trudy ..66 years of age. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006
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I have the same experience with Nexium, Protonix and many other drugs. Am presently working with a chiropractor who is also well informed about nutrition. So far we have not had success getting on top of my problems, but are still working on it. It may still come down to adhesions from 3 abdominal surgeries, all on the right side. Am working on juicing veggies at present. My chiropractor would like to see me get more variety into my diet, hence the attempt at yellow tomato. Also have tried watermelon and potato with skins on to get more vitamin c from whole foods. I believe that it is true that most vitamin c in pills nowadays is not the best. It is better to use whole foods if once can tolerate them! Ruth From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:27:38 -0600 Yes, I have had it at other times. Still have it today, though the diarrhea and nausea has stopped. This isn't under my right ribcage, though, it is more centered, if anything slightly to the left of center. I have to see a cardiologist at the end of this month for mild abnormalities in the imaging portion of a recent stress test. At the moment, I'm not sure what is causing what. Whole bunch of stuff happening to me that I'm trying to get figured out. I have had this high stomach pain off and on for quite a while now. Supposed to try Nexium (changed to Protonix), but neither seemed to do anything and both have what I consider unacceptable side effects. sol ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods. Today I had it right after eating a yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of peanut butter. I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have this sensation at other times? Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi, Pat, My right ribcage pain isn't sporadic, but rather quite steady, just lessens at times and then worsens. The spot where it seems to originate is always sore to the touch. Have had all the tests that anybody can think of. Dr. says there is slight irritation in a portion of my upper digestive tract, noted by upper endoscopy, but I can take antacids or not as I choose. Ha! Ruth From: Pat pattycake29...@yahoo.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Sun, 3 Sep 2006 19:31:49 -0700 (PDT) Hi. I get a bit queasy feeling when I take a D-mannose capsule. Not much and not long lasting, but it has puzzled me. I've had some under the right rib pain since I was in my 20s. I had testing for pain in middle of tummy at waist (he came up with irritable bowel to explain that away) and they did several other tests. Never complain to doctor about a not so bad problem.all I wanted was for insurance to pay for my first colonoscopy hahaha. I had a HIDA scan of the gallbladder and they said it was fine, but I'd swear I've had a few gallbladder attacks in my life, with pain radiating through to my back. Too painful to breathe one time after eating pizza (after a few weeks on a diet). Pain was under shoulder blade. Only thing they ever found was a liver cyst which is fairly common I guesshe wasn't concerned. Who knows about temporary pains...maybe it's a cramp of an internal organ?? Pat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/acerola.html http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/acerola.htm Ruth maybe you can take ACEROLA for the Vit C But is is a berrie...maybe not good for de UTI??? Difficult...I take Acerola...every day a teaspoon. Trudy - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:44 PM Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections I have the same experience with Nexium, Protonix and many other drugs. Am presently working with a chiropractor who is also well informed about nutrition. So far we have not had success getting on top of my problems, but are still working on it. It may still come down to adhesions from 3 abdominal surgeries, all on the right side. Am working on juicing veggies at present. My chiropractor would like to see me get more variety into my diet, hence the attempt at yellow tomato. Also have tried watermelon and potato with skins on to get more vitamin c from whole foods. I believe that it is true that most vitamin c in pills nowadays is not the best. It is better to use whole foods if once can tolerate them! Ruth From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:27:38 -0600 Yes, I have had it at other times. Still have it today, though the diarrhea and nausea has stopped. This isn't under my right ribcage, though, it is more centered, if anything slightly to the left of center. I have to see a cardiologist at the end of this month for mild abnormalities in the imaging portion of a recent stress test. At the moment, I'm not sure what is causing what. Whole bunch of stuff happening to me that I'm trying to get figured out. I have had this high stomach pain off and on for quite a while now. Supposed to try Nexium (changed to Protonix), but neither seemed to do anything and both have what I consider unacceptable side effects. sol ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods. Today I had it right after eating a yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of peanut butter. I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have this sensation at other times? Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi, Trudy, I know c from acerola berries is better for one than the synthetic, (man-made) pills. Don''t know if Ican tolerate the acerola. My chiropractor says they are an excellent source. Seems like he mentioned something else , too. Actually, I have never had real success taking Vitamin C alone. The recommended daily allowance in over the counter multi vitamins doesn't seem to bother me that much. Sometimes I kind of want to pull my hair out. Ruth From: Gertrude dj...@home.nl Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 23:30:08 +0200 http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/acerola.html http://www.tradewindsfruit.com/acerola.htm Ruth maybe you can take ACEROLA for the Vit C But is is a berrie...maybe not good for de UTI??? Difficult...I take Acerola...every day a teaspoon. Trudy - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 10:44 PM Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections I have the same experience with Nexium, Protonix and many other drugs. Am presently working with a chiropractor who is also well informed about nutrition. So far we have not had success getting on top of my problems, but are still working on it. It may still come down to adhesions from 3 abdominal surgeries, all on the right side. Am working on juicing veggies at present. My chiropractor would like to see me get more variety into my diet, hence the attempt at yellow tomato. Also have tried watermelon and potato with skins on to get more vitamin c from whole foods. I believe that it is true that most vitamin c in pills nowadays is not the best. It is better to use whole foods if once can tolerate them! Ruth From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:27:38 -0600 Yes, I have had it at other times. Still have it today, though the diarrhea and nausea has stopped. This isn't under my right ribcage, though, it is more centered, if anything slightly to the left of center. I have to see a cardiologist at the end of this month for mild abnormalities in the imaging portion of a recent stress test. At the moment, I'm not sure what is causing what. Whole bunch of stuff happening to me that I'm trying to get figured out. I have had this high stomach pain off and on for quite a while now. Supposed to try Nexium (changed to Protonix), but neither seemed to do anything and both have what I consider unacceptable side effects. sol ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods. Today I had it right after eating a yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of peanut butter. I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have this sensation at other times? Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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This is extremely interesting. I was just looking up Nitrofurantoin, as I was just given a prescription for it, for low grade bladder infection. After what I read about it online I decided not to fill the Rx. And what Gertrude says adds extra emphasis to my concerns about its side effects. I have decided to simply take more oral EIS (haven't been using much orally this past year), and add a little DMSO to a mouthful once or twice a day. Also have some D-mannose, but got a big attack of nausea, stomach pain (high stomach, almost under the breastbone) and diarrhea this morning after my first dose, wondering if anyone else has had this happen or if it is just a coincidence. I had also taken some MSM and Ribose, neither of which has bothered me previously. Whatever the cause, a couple glasses of EIS fixed it in a couple of hours. sol Gertrude wrote: Mike I can tell you the same story...I had an e-coli and got anti-bioticait did not work...later Nitrofurantoine.it did not heal and in an alternative medicine book I saw that even Nitrofurantoine causes bladder disease.! I make the CS about 4 years now...but for the bladder I have to take more than normal,that is my experience. Trudy ..66 years of age. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections
Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods. Today I had it right after eating a yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of peanut butter. I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have this sensation at other times? Ruth From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:44:37 -0600 This is extremely interesting. I was just looking up Nitrofurantoin, as I was just given a prescription for it, for low grade bladder infection. After what I read about it online I decided not to fill the Rx. And what Gertrude says adds extra emphasis to my concerns about its side effects. I have decided to simply take more oral EIS (haven't been using much orally this past year), and add a little DMSO to a mouthful once or twice a day. Also have some D-mannose, but got a big attack of nausea, stomach pain (high stomach, almost under the breastbone) and diarrhea this morning after my first dose, wondering if anyone else has had this happen or if it is just a coincidence. I had also taken some MSM and Ribose, neither of which has bothered me previously. Whatever the cause, a couple glasses of EIS fixed it in a couple of hours. sol Gertrude wrote: Mike I can tell you the same story...I had an e-coli and got anti-bioticait did not work...later Nitrofurantoine.it did not heal and in an alternative medicine book I saw that even Nitrofurantoine causes bladder disease.! I make the CS about 4 years now...but for the bladder I have to take more than normal,that is my experience. Trudy ..66 years of age. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Yes, I have had it at other times. Still have it today, though the diarrhea and nausea has stopped. This isn't under my right ribcage, though, it is more centered, if anything slightly to the left of center. I have to see a cardiologist at the end of this month for mild abnormalities in the imaging portion of a recent stress test. At the moment, I'm not sure what is causing what. Whole bunch of stuff happening to me that I'm trying to get figured out. I have had this high stomach pain off and on for quite a while now. Supposed to try Nexium (changed to Protonix), but neither seemed to do anything and both have what I consider unacceptable side effects. sol ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods. Today I had it right after eating a yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of peanut butter. I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have this sensation at other times? Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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For what it`s worth, my rib pain was my gallbladder, don`t forget to get that checked! My best friend went to the doc to find out about her little pain in the right side. It was stage 4 liver cancer, she died 6 months later. sigh... Marshalee Yes, I have had it at other times. Still have it today, though the diarrhea and nausea has stopped. This isn't under my right ribcage, though, it is more centered, if anything slightly to the left of center. I have to see a cardiologist at the end of this month for mild abnormalities in the imaging portion of a recent stress test. At the moment, I'm not sure what is causing what. Whole bunch of stuff happening to me that I'm trying to get figured out. I have had this high stomach pain off and on for quite a while now. Supposed to try Nexium (changed to Protonix), but neither seemed to do anything and both have what I consider unacceptable side effects. sol ruth strackbein wrote: Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods. Today I had it right after eating a yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of peanut butter. I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have this sensation at other times? Ruth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Hi. I get a bit queasy feeling when I take a D-mannose capsule. Not much and not long lasting, but it has puzzled me. I've had some under the right rib pain since I was in my 20s. I had testing for pain in middle of tummy at waist (he came up with irritable bowel to explain that away) and they did several other tests. Never complain to doctor about a not so bad problem.all I wanted was for insurance to pay for my first colonoscopy hahaha. I had a HIDA scan of the gallbladder and they said it was fine, but I'd swear I've had a few gallbladder attacks in my life, with pain radiating through to my back. Too painful to breathe one time after eating pizza (after a few weeks on a diet). Pain was under shoulder blade. Only thing they ever found was a liver cyst which is fairly common I guesshe wasn't concerned. Who knows about temporary pains...maybe it's a cramp of an internal organ?? Pat __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Ruth, Have you tried to muscle test to see if you are allergic to these foods? Nancy - Original Message - From: ruth strackbein ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 4:01 PM Subject: RE: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Hi, This message is interesting to me, because of your comment about having sharp pain under your right ribcage immediately after taking the D Mannose. I get such a pain almost every day . Am trying to track it down to certain foods. Today I had it right after eating a yellow tomato and again later in the afternoon after eating a dab of peanut butter. I am keeping a record of these things. Do you have this sensation at other times? Ruth From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CScomment and D-mannose question, was Re: CSKidney Infections Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 14:44:37 -0600 This is extremely interesting. I was just looking up Nitrofurantoin, as I was just given a prescription for it, for low grade bladder infection. After what I read about it online I decided not to fill the Rx. And what Gertrude says adds extra emphasis to my concerns about its side effects. I have decided to simply take more oral EIS (haven't been using much orally this past year), and add a little DMSO to a mouthful once or twice a day. Also have some D-mannose, but got a big attack of nausea, stomach pain (high stomach, almost under the breastbone) and diarrhea this morning after my first dose, wondering if anyone else has had this happen or if it is just a coincidence. I had also taken some MSM and Ribose, neither of which has bothered me previously. Whatever the cause, a couple glasses of EIS fixed it in a couple of hours. sol Gertrude wrote: Mike I can tell you the same story...I had an e-coli and got anti-bioticait did not work...later Nitrofurantoine.it did not heal and in an alternative medicine book I saw that even Nitrofurantoine causes bladder disease.! I make the CS about 4 years now...but for the bladder I have to take more than normal,that is my experience. Trudy ..66 years of age. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/436 - Release Date: 9/1/2006
