CScs testing
I recently had my cs tested by soverein silver, and was very disappointed. They didn't tell me particle size, or content of particles vs. ions, and I was hoping for some more conclusive testing. ( They are the ones that said my cs pH was over 9). I paid $150. for info that really didn't tell me very much. Is there someone cheaper out there that will tell me more info? I got photos of my cs, but didn't get very much pertinent info. for all the hype on their website. I would like some very detailed testing. thanks - Bethany
RE: CSCS testing and Hot water for making colloidal silver
measurement and multiplying the result by 2 will give you an approximate value of the EIS ppm. The TDS meter only measures the ionic component if the EIS and not the particulate portion so you will need to take in to consideration what percentage of your EIS is ionic vs particulate and that will depend on your particular brewing process. Another method to estimate silver ppm is use of a Faraday's Equation Calculator available at: http://www.silvermedicine.org/faradaycalculator.html You can get a relatively accurate calculation of an EIS solutions ppm by measuring the EIS anode current vs time during the generation of the EIS and then plugging that info into the Faraday's Equation Calculator. Some questions others on the silverlist might be able to answer: ** What is an acceptable measurement accuracy? +/- 10 percent?? ** They say you cannot adjust the ppm of an EIS solution by adding distilled water to dilute it. Can you blend two different EIS solutions to create a specific ppm? ** After generating EIS, is there a minimum/maximum period that you should wait to let the solution stabilize before a final measurement with a TDS meter? I hope this helps a little. - Steve N From: Bethany Methven [mailto:mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 5:26 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSHot water for making colloidal silver I am confused about the best temperature for making SMALL particle colloidal silver. Some websites say to use very hot water, some sites say to use room temperature water. Different websites claim small particles for using hot or cold water. Which is true? and how do I know for sure? If I have a DC silver generator, do I need to use hot water? Am I making the particles large by heating my water. I still have absolutely clear CS when I do heat my water almost to the boiling point. From: Bethany Methven [mailto:mrs_ak_h...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 10:20 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CSCS testing Hi, just wondering if anyone out there gets there CS tested frequently, and where they test it. I am looking for a cheaper place. So far, the cheapest place chargest around $150. for complete testing. I have been selling it for almost 6 months, but feel that I should know exactly what ppm, amount of ions vs. particles and perhaps particle size, too. Do you think it would be sufficient to buy a hanna meter or something like that and just figure out what percentage of ions I have? Because I'm selling it, should I get as much info as possible about it? Are there any regulations that I haven't heard about that require it to be tested if I'm selling it? Thanks - Beth -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSCS testing and Hot water for making colloidal silver
- Original Message - From: Norton, Steve stephen.nor...@ngc.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 10:35 AM Subject: RE: CSCS testing and Hot water for making colloidal silver The following are only my experiences, my methods and using my equipment, which includes a magnetic stirrer, and will differ from others. Some questions others on the silverlist might be able to answer: ** What is an acceptable measurement accuracy? +/- 10 percent?? -I'll leave that one alone. ** They say you cannot adjust the ppm of an EIS solution by adding distilled water to dilute it. Can you blend two different EIS solutions to create a specific ppm? -In my opinion this is a question which you don't need to consider concerning 'blending to create a specific ppm' Beth. To my knowledge it's all about particle surface area, and this would apply to particles, not ions. ppm is weight ratio to a given quantity of liquid when speaking of CS, 1 gram of silver to 1 litre of liquid, or 1 ounce to 1 gallon,(example for description purposes only!!). By adding water to an existing solution you would effectively be reducing the surface area the particles would cover, but still have the 1 gram of silver, (ppm), only now it would be in 2 litres of liquid, (again, just an example for description purposes!!). ** After generating EIS, is there a minimum/maximum period that you should wait to let the solution stabilize before a final measurement with a TDS meter? -My experience is that some of my CS can take anywhere up to a week to stabilise. It all depends on whether I part my hair on the left or right side when I get up in the morning g Quotes: [Some websites say to use very hot water, some sites say to use room temperature water] -I use room temperature. Have played around a little with a warmer to heat water while brewing but found it to be too inconvenient for me, I like to keep it simple, and I don't particularly want particles, I prefer ions to particles. [I am confused about the best temperature for making SMALL particle colloidal silver] -I'll leave this 'particle size' one to the electronics experts, but I have found that if I produce anything over around 10ppm the solution sometimes turns from clear to colour during stabilization time frame, which I believe signifies ions 'sticking' to existing particles making them larger. I prefer to call this stuff EICS, (Electrolytic or Electro-Ionic Colloidal Silver), as you have both particles of silver in suspension, (colloids) and ions present but due to the high proportion of ions to particles I believe it more accurate to refer to CS as a 'solution' rather than Colloidal Silver, the CS term is mostly for 'convenience' sake if you like to me. Well that's my input Beth. Everyone here will give freely of their knowledge and experiences, I'm not overly 'expert' on the subject but know enough to satisfy me. Cheers...N. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSCS testing
Hi, just wondering if anyone out there gets there CS tested frequently, and where they test it. I am looking for a cheaper place. So far, the cheapest place chargest around $150. for complete testing. I have been selling it for almost 6 months, but feel that I should know exactly what ppm, amount of ions vs. particles and perhaps particle size, too. Do you think it would be sufficient to buy a hanna meter or something like that and just figure out what percentage of ions I have? Because I'm selling it, should I get as much info as possible about it? Are there any regulations that I haven't heard about that require it to be tested if I'm selling it? Thanks - Beth Methven Colloidal Silver - Try a natural antibiotic that has been used for thousands of years! (907) 357-8954
CSCS Testing
What ever happened to the CS testing at hospitals in Africa, seems I remembered they cured Malaria. Never heard any thing further. You would think there would be lots of testing due to benefits versus cost. Has any thing else been done, I wonder if some of the Drug Companies got to them. Bob
