Re: CSgrey matter
In other words, all that crap in your head that holds you back...is just that.
Looking at it just lowers your resistance to clearing it out. You don't have to look at ALL of it..just enough to realize that it's crap. Crap is there because reasons for keeping it were formulated, this life, past life, trauma, it doesn't matter. The crap is from the past and is irrelevent to 'now' regardless of 'reasons'. Nothing you can do 'now' will ever change the past, but it can completely change the values you placed on those events and change heir meanings to the point that they're totally irrelevant, so, easily let go of and forgotten. [Reasons are excuses that YOU've accepted]
Some folks hang onto every bit of it like it was them they were shaking loose. They feel like they wouldn't be themselves without all that crap. [But really, they're not themselves 'with' it]
Ken
At 06:29 PM 5/25/02 -0600, you wrote:
Hi Ken,
Actually I once was into the Scientology thing about 10 years ago. What they believe is that all of the emotional and physical trauma in your memory has an inhibiting effect on your future actions. If you don't relieve yourself of the inhibiting effect by going through a repetitive verbal recollection of the traumatic event, then you won't clear your mind of the inhibition. They call this auditing. Supposedly, each soul may have previous lives. Some are old souls, some are new. If your soul has previous lives then there's probably emotional and physical trauma that has been carried along with you to your current life. That stuff needs to be cleared also in order for one to become a true 'clear.' I fell out of the Scientology/Dianetics thing because I went back to being a drug addict. But I'm over all that now, and just want to get through this life healthy and having accomplished something GREAT that people will remember me by. Maybe it will be through the Colloidal Silver. I've currently got a lot of time on my hands right now, maybe I can stir up some stuff in Washington.
- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 11:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>grey matter
EST turned into the Family Forum.
You attend a $300 seminar, sit for 48 hrs of brainwashing while they
attempt to enlighten you as to what IT is. They say that when you have
completed enough education, you will get IT
In the end, IT is...taking control of your own mind and emotions, going
the heck home and ,henceforth, leading your own live rather than being
victimized by the expectations of others.
Some people pay $1000s and invest in years of study and training before
they finally learn that IT involves telling the mentors to go screw
themselves.
At that point, the student is offered mentorship.
Scientology works the same way...only much more drastic. Their
brainwashing is designed to scrub really hard. They make you look at all
the bullshit in there until you realize that, that's exactly what it
is...bullshit. If you don't believe you have nothing but bullshit in your
head, they'll load a big pile in for you to look at..as big a pile as
you'll take , then demostrate just how far you'll go to take bullshit
seriously with all sorts of mental/emotional/physical abuse. But there's a
method to that maddness.
When you finally say, That's bullshit!..you might make the connection
that everything else in there was aquired the same way and is also bullshit.
The Scientologists make very damned SURE that you get IT.
A simple screw off ain't enough.
You gotta really mean it and repeatedly ACT like you do.
Then, you are a clear and are offered a position.
Or, you go about your business in a new and effective way.
IT is that the mind of a victim is what victimizes the mind.
The common thread is that it's not likely that an unreasonable mind will
listen to reason, so, unreason is employed to its breaking
point...victimize the victim until he will no longer play the victim game.
They know that it's the person that heals himself and there's no other way.
[They just provide the incentive by making your particular illness
unbearable]
L Ron Hubbert was not stupid...no..not by a long shot.
Dianetics IS total bullshit..bullshit with the purpose of exposing dearly
held and defended bullshit.
His other books makes very clear that he knew what was what.
Silva Mind Control is for people who already know they can control their
own minds [most people don't] and want to learn better techniques of
getting in touch with what it really is.
For the victim mentality mindset folks who believe that their thoughts and
emotions are controlled by others, it will be la la land.
Ken {I, 'made' me say that.}
At 06:57 PM 5/24/02 -0500, you wrote:
>Jack:
> I heard about it a long time ago. I had a feeling that it went to
the
>la la land along with EST. Is it still going on?
>
>Regards
>Harsha Godavari
>
>Jack Dayton wrote:
>
>> Hi Gary, I can tell by your reply to Larry's post that you have never
>>
Re: CSgrey matter
http://skepdic.com/landmark.html My mistake EST became Landmark Forum It is still operating. Ken EST turned into the Family Forum. You attend a $300 seminar, sit for 48 hrs of brainwashing while they attempt to enlighten you as to what IT is. They say that when you have completed enough education, you will get IT[snip] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgrey matter
According to Scientology, the past isn't irrelevant because subconsciously it will supposedly affect you. Let's say for example, you were six years old. You were riding your skateboard and fell off and ripped a big hole in your knee. All the sounds, temperature and light distribution (your environment) going on around were recorded by your mind subconsciously. So ten years later your at your championship skateboard tournament and during your ride, some of the EXACT same environmental factors that were prevalent the day you ripped open your knee mysteriously occur. Suddenly that same queasy feeling you had when you saw the hole in your knee creeps back up into your stomach and you flop. SO, according to the Scientologist, if you don't go through the cleansing of your mind of all the bad schtuff in your mind, it will affect you for the rest of your life. It's tough to be able to test this theory because you would have be able to remember all of the environmental factors that were occurring during every traumatic time in your life and then know that those environmental factors were being repeated, causing you to screw up. I don't know about you, but I can't even remember what I had for dinner last Sunday, nevermind the environmental factors that were going on around me last time (or any time for that matter) I had a physical or emotional trauma. So that's their story. I'm not sure that I could overcome anything like that, but I'm also not sure that I am really being affected by my past. I want to do good in my future so I will learn and strive to do my best and try not to let my past mess me up! And if it does, I'll learn from that and try again. That's all that really matters is not giving up. Anyway, this has nothing to do with CS so I'll stop now. - Original Message - From: Ode Coyote Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 8:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSgrey matter In other words, all that crap in your head that holds you back...is just that. Looking at it just lowers your resistance to clearing it out. You don't have to look at ALL of it..just enough to realize that it's crap. Crap is there because reasons for keeping it were formulated, this life, past life, trauma, it doesn't matter. The crap is from the past and is irrelevent to 'now' regardless of 'reasons'. Nothing you can do 'now' will ever change the past, but it can completely change the values you placed on those events and change heir meanings to the point that they're totally irrelevant, so, easily let go of and forgotten. [Reasons are excuses that YOU've accepted] Some folks hang onto every bit of it like it was them they were shaking loose. They feel like they wouldn't be themselves without all that crap. [But really, they're not themselves 'with' it] Ken
Re: CSgrey matter
EST turned into the Family Forum.
You attend a $300 seminar, sit for 48 hrs of brainwashing while they
attempt to enlighten you as to what IT is. They say that when you have
completed enough education, you will get IT
In the end, IT is...taking control of your own mind and emotions, going
the heck home and ,henceforth, leading your own live rather than being
victimized by the expectations of others.
Some people pay $1000s and invest in years of study and training before
they finally learn that IT involves telling the mentors to go screw
themselves.
At that point, the student is offered mentorship.
Scientology works the same way...only much more drastic. Their
brainwashing is designed to scrub really hard. They make you look at all
the bullshit in there until you realize that, that's exactly what it
is...bullshit. If you don't believe you have nothing but bullshit in your
head, they'll load a big pile in for you to look at..as big a pile as
you'll take , then demostrate just how far you'll go to take bullshit
seriously with all sorts of mental/emotional/physical abuse. But there's a
method to that maddness.
When you finally say, That's bullshit!..you might make the connection
that everything else in there was aquired the same way and is also bullshit.
The Scientologists make very damned SURE that you get IT.
A simple screw off ain't enough.
You gotta really mean it and repeatedly ACT like you do.
Then, you are a clear and are offered a position.
Or, you go about your business in a new and effective way.
IT is that the mind of a victim is what victimizes the mind.
The common thread is that it's not likely that an unreasonable mind will
listen to reason, so, unreason is employed to its breaking
point...victimize the victim until he will no longer play the victim game.
They know that it's the person that heals himself and there's no other way.
[They just provide the incentive by making your particular illness
unbearable]
L Ron Hubbert was not stupid...no..not by a long shot.
Dianetics IS total bullshit..bullshit with the purpose of exposing dearly
held and defended bullshit.
His other books makes very clear that he knew what was what.
Silva Mind Control is for people who already know they can control their
own minds [most people don't] and want to learn better techniques of
getting in touch with what it really is.
For the victim mentality mindset folks who believe that their thoughts and
emotions are controlled by others, it will be la la land.
Ken {I, 'made' me say that.}
At 06:57 PM 5/24/02 -0500, you wrote:
Jack:
I heard about it a long time ago. I had a feeling that it went to
the
la la land along with EST. Is it still going on?
Regards
Harsha Godavari
Jack Dayton wrote:
Hi Gary, I can tell by your reply to Larry's post that you have never
attended a Silva Mind Control program. The mind can be powerfull tool.
Jack
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Re: CSgrey matter
On Saturday, May 25, 2002, at 09:05 PM, Ode Coyote wrote: L Ron Hubbert was not stupid...no..not by a long shot. He was once quoted as saying that if you ever wanted to make a lot of money just invent your own religion. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgrey matter
Happen to know that this particular quote wasn't made by him - it's actually from George Orwell. RegardsTerry - Original Message - From: Gary Green lim...@pc.jaring.my To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: Re: CSgrey matter On Saturday, May 25, 2002, at 09:05 PM, Ode Coyote wrote: L Ron Hubbert was not stupid...no..not by a long shot. He was once quoted as saying that if you ever wanted to make a lot of money just invent your own religion. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgrey matter
Thanks Ken, I needed that. :-)
Jack
From: Ode Coyote coy...@alltel.net
Silva Mind Control is for people who already know they can control their
own minds [most people don't] and want to learn better techniques of
getting in touch with what it really is.
For the victim mentality mindset folks who believe that their thoughts and
emotions are controlled by others, it will be la la land.
Ken {I, 'made' me say that.}
At 06:57 PM 5/24/02 -0500, you wrote:
Jack:
I heard about it a long time ago. I had a feeling that it went to
the
la la land along with EST. Is it still going on?
Regards
Harsha Godavari
Jack Dayton wrote:
Hi Gary, I can tell by your reply to Larry's post that you have never
attended a Silva Mind Control program. The mind can be powerfull tool.
Jack
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Re: CSgrey matter
Hi Ken,
Actually I once was into the Scientology thing about 10 years ago. What they
believe is that all of the emotional and physical trauma in your memory has an
inhibiting effect on your future actions. If you don't relieve yourself of the
inhibiting effect by going through a repetitive verbal recollection of the
traumatic event, then you won't clear your mind of the inhibition. They call
this auditing. Supposedly, each soul may have previous lives. Some are old
souls, some are new. If your soul has previous lives then there's probably
emotional and physical trauma that has been carried along with you to your
current life. That stuff needs to be cleared also in order for one to become a
true 'clear.' I fell out of the Scientology/Dianetics thing because I went back
to being a drug addict. But I'm over all that now, and just want to get through
this life healthy and having accomplished something GREAT that people will
remember me by. Maybe it will be through the Colloidal Silver. I've currently
got a lot of time on my hands right now, maybe I can stir up some stuff in
Washington.
- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 11:00 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSgrey matter
EST turned into the Family Forum.
You attend a $300 seminar, sit for 48 hrs of brainwashing while they
attempt to enlighten you as to what IT is. They say that when you have
completed enough education, you will get IT
In the end, IT is...taking control of your own mind and emotions, going
the heck home and ,henceforth, leading your own live rather than being
victimized by the expectations of others.
Some people pay $1000s and invest in years of study and training before
they finally learn that IT involves telling the mentors to go screw
themselves.
At that point, the student is offered mentorship.
Scientology works the same way...only much more drastic. Their
brainwashing is designed to scrub really hard. They make you look at all
the bullshit in there until you realize that, that's exactly what it
is...bullshit. If you don't believe you have nothing but bullshit in your
head, they'll load a big pile in for you to look at..as big a pile as
you'll take , then demostrate just how far you'll go to take bullshit
seriously with all sorts of mental/emotional/physical abuse. But there's a
method to that maddness.
When you finally say, That's bullshit!..you might make the connection
that everything else in there was aquired the same way and is also bullshit.
The Scientologists make very damned SURE that you get IT.
A simple screw off ain't enough.
You gotta really mean it and repeatedly ACT like you do.
Then, you are a clear and are offered a position.
Or, you go about your business in a new and effective way.
IT is that the mind of a victim is what victimizes the mind.
The common thread is that it's not likely that an unreasonable mind will
listen to reason, so, unreason is employed to its breaking
point...victimize the victim until he will no longer play the victim game.
They know that it's the person that heals himself and there's no other way.
[They just provide the incentive by making your particular illness
unbearable]
L Ron Hubbert was not stupid...no..not by a long shot.
Dianetics IS total bullshit..bullshit with the purpose of exposing dearly
held and defended bullshit.
His other books makes very clear that he knew what was what.
Silva Mind Control is for people who already know they can control their
own minds [most people don't] and want to learn better techniques of
getting in touch with what it really is.
For the victim mentality mindset folks who believe that their thoughts and
emotions are controlled by others, it will be la la land.
Ken {I, 'made' me say that.}
At 06:57 PM 5/24/02 -0500, you wrote:
Jack:
I heard about it a long time ago. I had a feeling that it went to
the
la la land along with EST. Is it still going on?
Regards
Harsha Godavari
Jack Dayton wrote:
Hi Gary, I can tell by your reply to Larry's post that you have never
attended a Silva Mind Control program. The mind can be powerfull tool.
Jack
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Re: CSgrey matter
Hi Gary, I can tell by your reply to Larry's post that you have never attended a Silva Mind Control program. The mind can be powerfull tool. Jack From: Gary Green lim...@pc.jaring.my Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:10:47 +0800 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS DISTILLED WATER. Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:38:29 -0700 On Saturday, May 11, 2002, at 05:12 AM, larry tankersley wrote: In April I attended the SkaSys lecture by Dr. Hans Lechner. This amazing technology allows one to successfully harness consciousness as a diagnostic and therapeutic tool. After reading this sentence I think anyone with two grey cells to rub together will hit the delete button. No credibility what so ever. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgrey matter
Jack: I'm aware of the work that Jose Silva did with the U.S. Army... I have not attended a program seminar, but I am very, very interested in a first hand account... Perhaps you might be able to comment further ( maybe on the OT list? ). Thank You! Jason - Original Message - From: Jack Dayton jack...@harbornet.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 2:51 PM Subject: Re: CSgrey matter Hi Gary, I can tell by your reply to Larry's post that you have never attended a Silva Mind Control program. The mind can be powerfull tool. Jack From: Gary Green lim...@pc.jaring.my Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 12:10:47 +0800 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS DISTILLED WATER. Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:38:29 -0700 On Saturday, May 11, 2002, at 05:12 AM, larry tankersley wrote: In April I attended the SkaSys lecture by Dr. Hans Lechner. This amazing technology allows one to successfully harness consciousness as a diagnostic and therapeutic tool. After reading this sentence I think anyone with two grey cells to rub together will hit the delete button. No credibility what so ever. -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgrey matter
Jack: I heard about it a long time ago. I had a feeling that it went to the la la land along with EST. Is it still going on? Regards Harsha Godavari Jack Dayton wrote: Hi Gary, I can tell by your reply to Larry's post that you have never attended a Silva Mind Control program. The mind can be powerfull tool. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSgrey matter
Well I really don't, it was 1973 when the wife and I first attended, at that time it was advertised in the local newspaper. Jack Jack: I heard about it a long time ago. I had a feeling that it went to the la la land along with EST. Is it still going on? Regards Harsha Godavari Jack Dayton wrote: Hi Gary, I can tell by your reply to Larry's post that you have never attended a Silva Mind Control program. The mind can be powerfull tool. Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
