Re: CShard science on homozon

2001-12-14 Thread John A. Stanley
In article 3c170297.748a2...@home.com,
Tel Tofflemire telt...@home.com wrote:
I have   2   of  them,  the Alpine ozone x15 works  well for mold, and knock
down dust.  Also motels use them for removing smoke smell, or any oder.. The
draw back, is the co is out of business, and the glass plate inside will crack
and no longer work after a couple yrs of use..If you know where I can find 
parts
let me know, only one of mine is working. now again.

If the company is out of business then whose websites are these:

http://www.alpine-air-purifiers-usa.com/replacement-plates.htm

http://www.alpine-replacement-filters.com/alpine-usa.htm

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Re: CShard science on homozon

2001-12-12 Thread FHLew
Chuck wrote:

Try to get it on approval in case the ozone smell bothers you. It
doesn't bother me, but my wife can't stand it.

The unit of 5 in 1 Ozone processor installed in my clinic premises
keeps purring away  merrily non-stop for
the past 7 days. It is an add-on for evaluation and research.  My fish enjoy
the 15 minute of ozonated
bath at 15 mg/hour because ozone cleans up their moldy
left-overs. My canine friend, Jimmy, who sleeps beside me was a bit restless
the past few days. This morning I found him sleeping in the store-room . It
could be the odour. Definitely, Gentle Jim,smells better now.

 In passing, it is found that animals like elephants
communicate  by generating extremely low frequencies [ELF]. It may come as a
surprise that the feline family,
with exception of tigers, generates atmospheric electro-
magnetic waves of 14 Hz [Extremely Low Frequencies
- ELF ] which have anecdotally provided relief to
rheumatic patients.Hence, the proverbial picture of an
old lady carrying a cat in her arms.The skeletal components in the human
system  form a crystalline
organ regulating the resonance of  internal and external
vibrational signatures. The skin,bones and muscles are good sonic
conductors. The thoughts, as visible speech,
we hear in silent reading, are osseous vibrations,amplified by mineralised
body cavities. Hugging a cat, a dog or a tree for that matter, has healing
effects,emotionally and physically, due to the  filtering and rectifying
transmission of  healthy oscillations to the human organism by resonance. As
proven by Russian Tesla  technology experiments in the 1950s, prokaryo
organisms  produce an external electromagnetic field which consists of the
combined radiations from the millions of moving molecules in the biological
system. Humans also produce electrofield
frequences in much the same way, except that the nervous
system plays a more significant role. The Kaznacheyev
experiments proved conlusively that cellular death and disease pattern due
to absorbed Ultra-Violet  Death
photons from dead cells, can be transmitted and induced
electromagnetically.
In Rife's technology, it is the Universal Vibratory Language
that Rife wanted to share : the resonance of vibrational signatures. The
French biologist, Jacques
Beneviste, demonstrated in Digital Biology that healing can be effected
electronically  through the internet for transmission with a sample, as the
vibratory signature of the medicine.

With regards
Lew

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Subject: Re: CShard science on homozon

 Try to get it on approval in case the ozone smell bothers you.
 It doesn't bother me, but my wife can't stand it.
 I'll put it on for a day if I see the need, rather than run continuous.
 Seems to work good for mold.
 Chuck
 Honk If You Love Peace and Quiet.

 On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:02:51 -0500, TJ Garland goldenok...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

 Does onyone have any experience with the Alpine ozone and ion air
cleaners..
 They apparently use Tesla Tech. and claim that they send their radio
waves
 through walls to kill bugs inc. mites. Rife technology? I am considering
 buying one for molds in the basement.  Thanks.


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Re: CShard science on homozon

2001-12-12 Thread TJ Garland
I am 50 miles from the manuf. plant. in Greenville , TN.  It's called 
Ecoquest 423-638-7246   www.EcoQuestIntl.com   Now they call it Living Air. 
Now where did I get Alpine  ? hm. It uses 4 screens.



From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@home.com
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Subject: Re: CShard science on homozon
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:09:11 -0700

I have   2   of  them,  the Alpine ozone x15 works  well for mold, and 
knock
down dust.  Also motels use them for removing smoke smell, or any oder.. 
The
draw back, is the co is out of business, and the glass plate inside will 
crack
and no longer work after a couple yrs of use..If you know where I can find 
parts

let me know, only one of mine is working. now again.
Tel Tofflemire
Phoenix, AZ

TJ Garland wrote:

 Does onyone have any experience with the Alpine ozone and ion air 
cleaners..
 They apparently use Tesla Tech. and claim that they send their radio 
waves

 through walls to kill bugs inc. mites. Rife technology? I am considering
 buying one for molds in the basement.  Thanks.

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Re: CShard science on homozon

2001-12-12 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Thank You so much TJ Garland for the information, I used my Alpine Ozone for a
personal experiment, (I am not dead yet) I placed the Ozone above my model  777
silver generator while I was making  CS, I use a fish pump and I let it suck
ozone charged air into my CSit really had a nice sparkle to it and it tasted
great and I had it set for 15 ppm, and it tested 20ppm with a hanna tester.  I
know the settings are only aprox, and the Hanna tester is only ballpark, but
this seems like away to get ozone into the cs at a small amount in a short time
and very easy method...Useing the fish pump and aerator I have made perfectly
clear cs at 30ppm, and it stays clear for several weeks, by then its all gone.
(used up) I haven't stored it longer than 3 or 4 weeks yet to see if it stays
clear, I use clear glass to make it in and have stored it in clear fruit jars, I
didn't see nay difference in color, even if it is in the sunlight..
I gave James Allison a pt of my clear 28ppm cs so he could send in a sample to
ole Bob no word yet?
Tel Tofflemire
Phoeniz,AZ

TJ Garland wrote:

 I am 50 miles from the manuf. plant. in Greenville , TN.  It's called
 Ecoquest 423-638-7246   www.EcoQuestIntl.com   Now they call it Living Air.
 Now where did I get Alpine  ? hm. It uses 4 screens.

 From: Tel Tofflemire telt...@home.com
 Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 To: silver-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: CShard science on homozon
 Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 00:09:11 -0700
 
 I have   2   of  them,  the Alpine ozone x15 works  well for mold, and
 knock
 down dust.  Also motels use them for removing smoke smell, or any oder..
 The
 draw back, is the co is out of business, and the glass plate inside will
 crack
 and no longer work after a couple yrs of use..If you know where I can find
 parts
 let me know, only one of mine is working. now again.
 Tel Tofflemire
 Phoenix, AZ
 
 TJ Garland wrote:
 
   Does onyone have any experience with the Alpine ozone and ion air
 cleaners..
   They apparently use Tesla Tech. and claim that they send their radio
 waves
   through walls to kill bugs inc. mites. Rife technology? I am considering
   buying one for molds in the basement.  Thanks.
  
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CShard science on homozon

2001-12-11 Thread Kevin Nolan
Probably someone else is doing the same - but here's an interesting and not too 
flattering take on ozone use from the oxyplus list.

Kevin Nolan

I am researching and putting content together for a website that will
sell homozon.
 
I asked a friend of mine who has a PHD in neuroscience and knows a great
deal about chemistry and science in general .I showed him the content I
had so far and gave him a few links on homozon.hoping to get more
perspectives on it and see what he thought about it and after reading
various things about it he had this to say:
**
Mike,
 
I have looked over the homozon stuff a bit and I think that the claims
are way off base. There isn't enough information (like its exact
chemical formula or controlled studies) for me to properly evaluate the
claims but I think this is what is going on:

There is no stabilized ozone in the product you are receiving. Such a
thing is probably not chemically possible (at least not for the
biological activity described). The positive effects you and others are
experiencing probably comes from mineral supplementation. Magnesium in
decent doses increase energy, has anti-viral effects, works
synergistically with nootropics. The cheapest form is milk of magnesia.
I take this myself and find I get good results with it.

Ozone DOES effectively kill bacteria, viruses, and destroy toxins and
odors BUT it does so by a method that is almost identical to chlorine
Bleach. Bleach contains nothing more than the elements in salt water Na
Cl H and O, but because of a slight difference in chemical structure it
becomes highly reactive and caustic. Bleach kills by savaging organic
molecules it comes into contact with.

Ozone is a bleach (an oxygen bleach) and sterilizes by being a violently
reactive chemical with organic molecules. It is not caustic (an alkali)
like chlorine bleach but it will cause oxidative burns in tissue.
Further ozone has a major toxic effect that bleach does not. It binds to
hemoglobin and cytochromes irreversibly and prevents them from carrying
a usable form of oxygen (O2). This is the same mechanism of action as
the poison cyanide, and in fact ozone is more powerful in its toxic
effect. Ozone does not increase the available oxygen to cells in fact it
decreases it. From my work in O-chem I know that we treat even a 4%
concentration of ozone as a terrible poison.

Here is a typical material safety data sheet on ozone:

http://www.hankinozone.com/msds.html
http://www.arcesystems.com/products/ozone/msds.htm

Ozone is good for eliminatinating viruses, bacteria, and contaminants,
but it does so by burning them up, much the way the bleach does. I hope
that you don't find my response to depressing. If you can refer me to
more scientifrically detailed cites I will evaluate them as I have time.
In the meantime go buy yourself a bottle of milk of magnesia. Its good
stuff taken in moderation. Tastes like chalk though ;-) ...


Re: CShard science on homozon

2001-12-11 Thread Duncan Crow
Having read a lot of available material on ozone inclding an ozone therapy
course I can say the fella doesn't have more than a partial grasp. His
paragraph below is all wrong. If he had read some published works on the
successes of ozone therapy he wouldn't have said that. It looks like he's
getting the bulk of his info from the FDA.

And his textbooks were apparently vetted by a quasi-authoritative body with
dubious credentials.

The terrible poison of up to 4% ozone is used all the time in Europe and
about dozen countries around the world. (Of course you couldn't live in a 4%
mix, but neither does any 4% mix achieve those levels in the body)

Ozone is a bleach (an oxygen bleach) and sterilizes by being a violently
reactive chemical with organic molecules. It is not caustic (an alkali)
like chlorine bleach but it will cause oxidative burns in tissue.
Further ozone has a major toxic effect that bleach does not. It binds to
hemoglobin and cytochromes irreversibly and prevents them from carrying
a usable form of oxygen (O2). This is the same mechanism of action as
the poison cyanide, and in fact ozone is more powerful in its toxic
effect. Ozone does not increase the available oxygen to cells in fact it
decreases it. From my work in O-chem I know that we treat even a 4%
concentration of ozone as a terrible poison.



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Re: CShard science on homozon

2001-12-11 Thread TJ Garland


Does onyone have any experience with the Alpine ozone and ion air cleaners.. 
They apparently use Tesla Tech. and claim that they send their radio waves 
through walls to kill bugs inc. mites. Rife technology? I am considering 
buying one for molds in the basement.  Thanks.




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Re: CShard science on homozon

2001-12-11 Thread CKing001
Try to get it on approval in case the ozone smell bothers you.
It doesn't bother me, but my wife can't stand it.
I'll put it on for a day if I see the need, rather than run continuous.
Seems to work good for mold.
Chuck
Honk If You Love Peace and Quiet.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001 20:02:51 -0500, TJ Garland goldenok...@hotmail.com
wrote:

Does onyone have any experience with the Alpine ozone and ion air cleaners.. 
They apparently use Tesla Tech. and claim that they send their radio waves 
through walls to kill bugs inc. mites. Rife technology? I am considering 
buying one for molds in the basement.  Thanks.


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