Re: CSstaph in dogs
Direct application works best. Soak a pup. ode At 02:34 PM 10/14/2008 -0500, you wrote: Hi All, I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems to have one that has not gone away for months. I was able to keep it in check, but then a week ago, she suddenly got much worse. I have been unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I just give it to her in place of water, she quits drinking at all. She seems to be on her last legs. As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the entire belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point. I am feeling like grinding up the silver and feeding it to her with the next batch of soup which is all she wil eat. I had been giving her some supplements to lesson her toxic burden on her liver, but the infection is trumping everything else I do. Any ideas will be appreciated, thank you for your attention and possible input. Sincerely, Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.173 / Virus Database: 270.8.1/1727 - Release Date: 10/15/2008 8:02 PM
Re: CSstaph in dogs
Hadn't thought of that. I did give her a soda bath yesterday, had to. I had been out of town, and she would not let anyone else clean her belly, so the fur around it was caked, it took 3 soakings to get it off. She also seems more lucid since I bathed her- the stuff coming out of her is toxic in some degree, I would guess. She was a one eyed doggie this morning- her eye was sealed shut with gunk, but I soaked it off and she is two eyed once again. Pirate pup, she is, and very patient. Guess I better get started making massive amounts of cs- Thanks, Ode. kathryn On Oct 16, 2008, at 7:52 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: Direct application works best. Soak a pup. ode At 02:34 PM 10/14/2008 -0500, you wrote: Hi All, I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems to have one that has not gone away for months. I was able to keep it in check, but then a week ago, she suddenly got much worse. I have been unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I just give it to her in place of water, she quits drinking at all. She seems to be on her last legs. As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the entire belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point. I am feeling like grinding up the silver and feeding it to her with the next batch of soup which is all she wil eat. I had been giving her some supplements to lesson her toxic burden on her liver, but the infection is trumping everything else I do. Any ideas will be appreciated, thank you for your attention and possible input. Sincerely, Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSstaph in dogs
My grand dog had a similar wound. I mixed 50/50 combo of CS and DMSO and my daughter syringed it under the skin flap twice a day as well as applying it topically to it and some smaller punctures (also applied an antibiotic salve). Vet was amazed and said she had never ever seen any animal with that severe of a wound heal anywhere near that fast. Bad thing was my daughter was embarrassed to tell the vet how we treated the wounds. sigh Ruth - Original Message - From: Acmeair To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 3:20 PM Subject: RE: CSstaph in dogs my neighbor has an older, 15 year, deaf female, that got put in with a younger female. settling territories, the young one took a big patch of meat, 3 x 4, off the back of the older dog. up to the vet, drain tube inserted, and an estimate of around 800 bucks. it was gettin close to decision time, about the treatment. i offered the guy some CS. told him to keep it in a spray bottle, and to spritz the open wound area with cs spray, and to just let it airdry. try to at least get two spritzings per day, and preferrably 3-4-or 5. i checked with him in about 4 days, and he said, man!, look at this! the tube was gone, the gapping wound was closing back in, with nice, pink skin. needless to say, the vet was amazed. in about 10 days, the wound was fully skinned over. and hair started to show about day 20. not bad for 1.29 gallon of distilled water, and 5c of silver.whoooaaa, cool,,, jim On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Clayton Family wrote: Hi All, I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems to have one that has not gone away for months. I was able to keep it in check, but then a week ago, she suddenly got much worse. I have been unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I just give it to her in place of water, she quits drinking at all. She seems to be on her last legs. As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the entire belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point. I am feeling like grinding up the silver and feeding it to her with the next batch of soup which is all she wil eat. I had been giving her some supplements to lesson her toxic burden on her liver, but the infection is trumping everything else I do. Any ideas will be appreciated, thank you for your attention and possible input. Sincerely, Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSstaph in dogs
Also- I would add some DMSO at 10 parts CS to 1 part DMSO. apply topically several times a day. Make sure that the areas are clean as the DMSO will pull anything on the skin in- you don't want that. Kathy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSstaph in dogs
Hi Kathryn You might try Vitamin D, skin problems in dogs are sometimes related to D deficiencies. Dunno if you should nip the capsule and dribble it on, or feed it to her direct. My limited experience has been that it helps internally but it could be like vit. E and useful externally as well; prob'ly can't do any harm. Pirate Indeed!G Take care, Malcolm On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 11:05 -0500, Clayton Family wrote: Hadn't thought of that. I did give her a soda bath yesterday, had to. I had been out of town, and she would not let anyone else clean her belly, so the fur around it was caked, it took 3 soakings to get it off. She also seems more lucid since I bathed her- the stuff coming out of her is toxic in some degree, I would guess. She was a one eyed doggie this morning- her eye was sealed shut with gunk, but I soaked it off and she is two eyed once again. Pirate pup, she is, and very patient. Guess I better get started making massive amounts of cs- Thanks, Ode. kathryn On Oct 16, 2008, at 7:52 AM, Ode Coyote wrote: Direct application works best. Soak a pup. ode -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSstaph in dogs
Kathrine, Have you tried painting the area several times a day with iodine? I would give that a try. I would try tea tree oil if that didn't work. Paula On Oct 14, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Clayton Family wrote: As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the entire belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point. Sincerely, Kathryn -- -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSstaph in dogs
Can you not use something like a Metacam syringe and dribble it into the sides of her mouth? This is what I do with my dog when he gets an upset stomach or something. I do this every half hours or so. dee Clayton Family wrote: Hi All, I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems to have one that has not gone away for months. I was able to keep it in check, but then a week ago, she suddenly got much worse. I have been unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I just give it to her in place of water, she quits drinking at all. She seems to be on her last legs. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSstaph in dogs
Paula Perry wrote: Kathrine, Have you tried painting the area several times a day with iodine? I would give that a try. I would try tea tree oil if that didn't work. Paula Pure tea tree oil can be fatal to dogs. It's only used in a very watered down state because of that, and honestly I'd not use it even then. You have to remember that most dogs will be licking at whatever you put on him. Cyndi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSstaph in dogs
Thank you all for the input. I really appreciate it. kathryn On Oct 15, 2008, at 9:18 AM, cyndiann9 wrote: Paula Perry wrote: Kathrine, Have you tried painting the area several times a day with iodine? I would give that a try. I would try tea tree oil if that didn't work. Paula Pure tea tree oil can be fatal to dogs. It's only used in a very watered down state because of that, and honestly I'd not use it even then. You have to remember that most dogs will be licking at whatever you put on him. Cyndi -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
CSstaph in dogs
Hi All, I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems to have one that has not gone away for months. I was able to keep it in check, but then a week ago, she suddenly got much worse. I have been unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I just give it to her in place of water, she quits drinking at all. She seems to be on her last legs. As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the entire belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point. I am feeling like grinding up the silver and feeding it to her with the next batch of soup which is all she wil eat. I had been giving her some supplements to lesson her toxic burden on her liver, but the infection is trumping everything else I do. Any ideas will be appreciated, thank you for your attention and possible input. Sincerely, Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSstaph in dogs
my neighbor has an older, 15 year, deaf female, that got put in with a younger female. settling territories, the young one took a big patch of meat, 3 x 4, off the back of the older dog. up to the vet, drain tube inserted, and an estimate of around 800 bucks. it was gettin close to decision time, about the treatment. i offered the guy some CS. told him to keep it in a spray bottle, and to spritz the open wound area with cs spray, and to just let it airdry. try to at least get two spritzings per day, and preferrably 3-4-or 5. i checked with him in about 4 days, and he said, man!, look at this! the tube was gone, the gapping wound was closing back in, with nice, pink skin. needless to say, the vet was amazed. in about 10 days, the wound was fully skinned over. and hair started to show about day 20. not bad for 1.29 gallon of distilled water, and 5c of silver.whoooaaa, cool,,, jim On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Clayton Family wrote: Hi All, I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems to have one that has not gone away for months. I was able to keep it in check, but then a week ago, she suddenly got much worse. I have been unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I just give it to her in place of water, she quits drinking at all. She seems to be on her last legs. As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the entire belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point. I am feeling like grinding up the silver and feeding it to her with the next batch of soup which is all she wil eat. I had been giving her some supplements to lesson her toxic burden on her liver, but the infection is trumping everything else I do. Any ideas will be appreciated, thank you for your attention and possible input. Sincerely, Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com mailto:silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com mailto:mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSstaph in dogs
On Oct 14, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Clayton Family wrote: Hi All, I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems to have one that has not gone away for months. I was able to keep it in check, but then a week ago, she suddenly got much worse. I have been unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I just give it to her in place of water, she quits drinking at all. She seems to be on her last legs. As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the entire belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point. I am feeling like grinding up the silver and feeding it to her with the next batch of soup which is all she wil eat. I had been giving her some supplements to lesson her toxic burden on her liver, but the infection is trumping everything else I do. Any ideas will be appreciated, thank you for your attention and possible input. Sincerely, Kathryn I just talked to the vet, who said the dog has an inflammatory skin disorder, but does not know the cause of it, and suggest a more thorough workup to try to determine that; and is not sure if there is infection present or if it is just fluid seeping, would have to look at it. The dog is also very old- 13, I think. To me, it looks somewhat like the pictures I saw online of mice with atopic dermatitis, which had a staph infection as well. That is why I thought that it was still perhaps infected. The inflammation is pretty bad. I am looking to see if I can find reasons for inflammation, I know about the biotoxin mediated inflammation, but not sure that is what is going on here, and there are not any easily available tests for dogs for that. Still looking for other causes of inflammation... Of course I have been spraying it with CS daily for a long time. Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSstaph in dogs
Kathryn, You should give MMS a try. It may not work in time,but it could. Go to mmsdr.com for more info and to order. You will be making chlorine dioxide from a 28% solution of sodium chlorite and feeding your dog a diluted form of the chlorine dioxide. It will certainly kill the staph without harming your dog. The dose for animals is 3 drops MMS for every 25lbs of body weight, so 3 drops of sodium chlorite added to a food acid such as citric acid or lemon juice is used. Wait the 3 minutes as per instructions and add 4oz pure water and feed. Good luck. Bob - Original Message - From: Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:18 PM Subject: Re: CSstaph in dogs On Oct 14, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Clayton Family wrote: Hi All, I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems to have one that has not gone away for months. I was able to keep it in check, but then a week ago, she suddenly got much worse. I have been unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I just give it to her in place of water, she quits drinking at all. She seems to be on her last legs. As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the entire belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point. I am feeling like grinding up the silver and feeding it to her with the next batch of soup which is all she wil eat. I had been giving her some supplements to lesson her toxic burden on her liver, but the infection is trumping everything else I do. Any ideas will be appreciated, thank you for your attention and possible input. Sincerely, Kathryn I just talked to the vet, who said the dog has an inflammatory skin disorder, but does not know the cause of it, and suggest a more thorough workup to try to determine that; and is not sure if there is infection present or if it is just fluid seeping, would have to look at it. The dog is also very old- 13, I think. To me, it looks somewhat like the pictures I saw online of mice with atopic dermatitis, which had a staph infection as well. That is why I thought that it was still perhaps infected. The inflammation is pretty bad. I am looking to see if I can find reasons for inflammation, I know about the biotoxin mediated inflammation, but not sure that is what is going on here, and there are not any easily available tests for dogs for that. Still looking for other causes of inflammation... Of course I have been spraying it with CS daily for a long time. Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com