Re: CSstaph in dogs

2008-10-16 Thread Ode Coyote



  Direct application works best.
 Soak a pup.

ode




At 02:34 PM 10/14/2008 -0500, you wrote:

Hi All,

I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems to 
have one that has not gone away for  months. I was able to keep it in 
check, but then  a week ago, she suddenly got much worse.  I have been 
unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I just give it 
to her in place of water, she quits drinking at all.  She seems to be on 
her last legs.


As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of 
atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or 
possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the entire 
belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point.


I am feeling like grinding up the silver and feeding it to her with the 
next batch of soup which is all she wil eat.


I had been giving her some supplements to lesson her toxic burden on her 
liver, but the infection is trumping everything else I do.


Any ideas will be appreciated, thank you for your attention and possible 
input.


Sincerely, Kathryn


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Re: CSstaph in dogs

2008-10-16 Thread Clayton Family
Hadn't thought of that. I did give her a soda bath yesterday, had to. I 
had been out of town, and she would not let anyone else clean her 
belly, so the fur around it was caked, it took  3 soakings to get it 
off. She also seems more lucid since I bathed her- the stuff coming out 
of her is toxic in some degree, I would guess.


She was a one eyed doggie this morning- her eye was sealed shut with 
gunk, but I soaked it off and she is two eyed once again. Pirate pup, 
she is, and very patient.


Guess I better get started making massive amounts of cs- Thanks, Ode.

kathryn

On Oct 16, 2008, at 7:52 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:




  Direct application works best.
 Soak a pup.

ode




At 02:34 PM 10/14/2008 -0500, you wrote:

Hi All,

I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog 
seems to have one that has not gone away for  months. I was able to 
keep it in check, but then  a week ago, she suddenly got much worse.  
I have been unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. 
If I just give it to her in place of water, she quits drinking at 
all.  She seems to be on her last legs.


As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of 
atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or 
possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the 
entire belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point.


I am feeling like grinding up the silver and feeding it to her with 
the next batch of soup which is all she wil eat.


I had been giving her some supplements to lesson her toxic burden on 
her liver, but the infection is trumping everything else I do.


Any ideas will be appreciated, thank you for your attention and 
possible input.


Sincerely, Kathryn



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Re: CSstaph in dogs

2008-10-16 Thread Ruth Bertella
My grand dog had a similar wound.  I mixed 50/50 combo of CS and DMSO and my 
daughter syringed it under the skin flap twice a day as well as applying it 
topically to it and some smaller punctures (also applied an antibiotic salve).  
Vet was amazed and said she had never ever seen any animal with that severe of 
a wound heal anywhere near that fast.  Bad thing was my daughter was 
embarrassed to tell the vet how we treated the wounds.  sigh

Ruth
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  Subject: RE: CSstaph in dogs



  my neighbor has an older, 15 year,  deaf female, that got put in with a 
younger female. settling territories, the young one took a big patch of meat, 
3 x 4, off the back of the older dog. up to the vet, drain tube inserted, and 
an estimate of around 800 bucks. it was gettin close to decision time, about 
the treatment.


  i offered the guy some CS. told him to keep it in a spray bottle, and to 
spritz the open wound area with cs spray, and to just let it airdry. try to at 
least get two spritzings per day, and preferrably 3-4-or 5. i checked with him 
in about 4 days, and he said, man!, look at this! the tube was gone, the 
gapping wound was closing back in, with nice, pink skin. needless to say, the 
vet was amazed. in about 10 days, the wound was fully skinned over. and hair 
started to show about day 20. not bad for 1.29 gallon of distilled water, and 
5c of silver.whoooaaa, cool,,,   jim


  On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Clayton Family wrote:


   Hi All,


  I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems to 
have one that has not gone away for  months. I was able to keep it in check, 
but then  a week ago, she suddenly got much worse.  I have been unable to get 
enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I just give it to her in place of 
water, she quits drinking at all.  She seems to be on her last legs.


  As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of atopic 
dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or possibly internal 
inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the entire belly, and some on her 
face. It is very tender at this point.


  I am feeling like grinding up the silver and feeding it to her with the next 
batch of soup which is all she wil eat.


  I had been giving her some supplements to lesson her toxic burden on her 
liver, but the infection is trumping everything else I do.


  Any ideas will be appreciated, thank you for your attention and possible 
input.


  Sincerely, Kathryn



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Re: CSstaph in dogs

2008-10-16 Thread Kathy
Also- I would add some DMSO at 10 parts CS to 1 part DMSO. apply topically 
several times a day. Make sure that the areas are clean as the DMSO will 
pull anything on the skin in- you don't want that.


Kathy 




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Re: CSstaph in dogs

2008-10-16 Thread Malcolm
Hi Kathryn

You might try Vitamin D, skin problems in dogs are sometimes related to
D deficiencies.  Dunno if you should nip the capsule and dribble it on,
or feed it to her direct.  My limited experience has been that it helps
internally but it could be like vit. E and useful externally as well;
prob'ly can't do any harm.  Pirate Indeed!G

Take care,  Malcolm


On Thu, 2008-10-16 at 11:05 -0500, Clayton Family wrote:
 Hadn't thought of that. I did give her a soda bath yesterday, had to. I 
 had been out of town, and she would not let anyone else clean her 
 belly, so the fur around it was caked, it took  3 soakings to get it 
 off. She also seems more lucid since I bathed her- the stuff coming out 
 of her is toxic in some degree, I would guess.
 
 She was a one eyed doggie this morning- her eye was sealed shut with 
 gunk, but I soaked it off and she is two eyed once again. Pirate pup, 
 she is, and very patient.
 
 Guess I better get started making massive amounts of cs- Thanks, Ode.
 
 kathryn
 
 On Oct 16, 2008, at 7:52 AM, Ode Coyote wrote:
 
 
 
Direct application works best.
   Soak a pup.
 
  ode
 
 


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Re: CSstaph in dogs

2008-10-15 Thread Paula Perry
Kathrine,
Have you tried painting the area several times a day with iodine? I would
give that a try. I would try tea tree oil if that didn't work.
Paula


 On Oct 14, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Clayton Family wrote:

 
   
  As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of
  atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or
  possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the
  entire belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point.
 

  Sincerely, Kathryn
 


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Re: CSstaph in dogs

2008-10-15 Thread Dee
Can you not use something like a Metacam syringe and dribble it into the 
sides of her mouth?  This is what I do with my dog when he gets an upset 
stomach or something.  I do this every half hours or so.  dee


Clayton Family wrote:

Hi All,

I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems 
to have one that has not gone away for  months. I was able to keep it 
in check, but then  a week ago, she suddenly got much worse.  I have 
been unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I 
just give it to her in place of water, she quits drinking at all.  She 
seems to be on her last legs.






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Re: CSstaph in dogs

2008-10-15 Thread cyndiann9

Paula Perry wrote:

Kathrine,
Have you tried painting the area several times a day with iodine? I would
give that a try. I would try tea tree oil if that didn't work.
Paula



Pure tea tree oil can be fatal to dogs. It's only used in a very watered 
down state because of that, and honestly I'd not use it even then.


You have to remember that most dogs will be licking at whatever you put 
on him.


Cyndi


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Re: CSstaph in dogs

2008-10-15 Thread Clayton Family

Thank you all for the input. I really appreciate it.

kathryn

On Oct 15, 2008, at 9:18 AM, cyndiann9 wrote:


Paula Perry wrote:

Kathrine,
Have you tried painting the area several times a day with iodine? I 
would

give that a try. I would try tea tree oil if that didn't work.
Paula


Pure tea tree oil can be fatal to dogs. It's only used in a very 
watered down state because of that, and honestly I'd not use it even 
then.


You have to remember that most dogs will be licking at whatever you 
put on him.


Cyndi




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CSstaph in dogs

2008-10-14 Thread Clayton Family

Hi All,

I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems 
to have one that has not gone away for  months. I was able to keep it 
in check, but then  a week ago, she suddenly got much worse.  I have 
been unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I just 
give it to her in place of water, she quits drinking at all.  She seems 
to be on her last legs.


As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of 
atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or 
possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the 
entire belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point.


I am feeling like grinding up the silver and feeding it to her with the 
next batch of soup which is all she wil eat.


I had been giving her some supplements to lesson her toxic burden on 
her liver, but the infection is trumping everything else I do.


Any ideas will be appreciated, thank you for your attention and 
possible input.


Sincerely, Kathryn


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RE: CSstaph in dogs

2008-10-14 Thread Acmeair



my neighbor has an older, 15 year,  deaf female, that got put in with a 
younger female. settling territories, the young one took a big patch of 
meat, 3 x 4, off the back of the older dog. up to the vet, drain tube 
inserted, and an estimate of around 800 bucks. it was gettin close to 
decision time, about the treatment.


i offered the guy some CS. told him to keep it in a spray bottle, and to 
spritz the open wound area with cs spray, and to just let it airdry. try 
to at least get two spritzings per day, and preferrably 3-4-or 5. i 
checked with him in about 4 days, and he said, man!, look at this! the 
tube was gone, the gapping wound was closing back in, with nice, pink 
skin. needless to say, the vet was amazed. in about 10 days, the wound 
was fully skinned over. and hair started to show about day 20. not bad 
for 1.29 gallon of distilled water, and 5c of silver.whoooaaa, 
cool,,,   jim


On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Clayton Family wrote:


Hi All,


I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems 
to have one that has not gone away for  months. I was able to keep it in 
check, but then  a week ago, she suddenly got much worse.  I have been 
unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I just give 
it to her in place of water, she quits drinking at all.  She seems to be 
on her last legs.


As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of 
atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or 
possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the 
entire belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point.


I am feeling like grinding up the silver and feeding it to her with the 
next batch of soup which is all she wil eat.


I had been giving her some supplements to lesson her toxic burden on her 
liver, but the infection is trumping everything else I do.


Any ideas will be appreciated, thank you for your attention and possible 
input.


Sincerely, Kathryn

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Re: CSstaph in dogs

2008-10-14 Thread Clayton Family


On Oct 14, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Clayton Family wrote:


Hi All,

I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems 
to have one that has not gone away for  months. I was able to keep it 
in check, but then  a week ago, she suddenly got much worse.  I have 
been unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I 
just give it to her in place of water, she quits drinking at all.  She 
seems to be on her last legs.


As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of 
atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or 
possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the 
entire belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point.


I am feeling like grinding up the silver and feeding it to her with 
the next batch of soup which is all she wil eat.


I had been giving her some supplements to lesson her toxic burden on 
her liver, but the infection is trumping everything else I do.


Any ideas will be appreciated, thank you for your attention and 
possible input.


Sincerely, Kathryn




I just talked to the vet, who said the dog has an inflammatory skin 
disorder, but does not know the cause of it, and suggest a more 
thorough workup to try to determine that; and is not sure if there is 
infection present or if it is just fluid seeping, would have to look at 
it. The dog is also very old- 13, I think.


To me, it looks somewhat like the pictures I saw online of mice with 
atopic dermatitis, which had a staph infection as well. That is why I 
thought that it was still perhaps infected.  The inflammation is pretty 
bad. I am looking to see if I can find reasons for inflammation, I know 
about the biotoxin mediated inflammation, but not sure that is what is 
going on here, and there are not any easily available tests for dogs 
for that. Still looking for other causes of inflammation...


Of course I have been spraying it with CS daily for a long time.

Kathryn


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Re: CSstaph in dogs

2008-10-14 Thread bbanever

Kathryn,

You should give MMS a try.  It may not work in time,but it could.  Go 
to mmsdr.com  for more info and to order.  You will be making chlorine 
dioxide from a 28% solution of sodium chlorite and feeding your dog a 
diluted form of the chlorine dioxide.  It will certainly kill the staph 
without harming your dog.  The dose for animals is 3 drops MMS for every 
25lbs of body weight, so 3 drops of sodium chlorite added to a food acid 
such as citric acid or lemon juice is used.  Wait the 3 minutes as per 
instructions and add 4oz pure water and feed.  Good luck.


Bob
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Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2008 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: CSstaph in dogs




On Oct 14, 2008, at 2:34 PM, Clayton Family wrote:


Hi All,

I reviewed the posts I could find on staph infections, as my dog seems to 
have one that has not gone away for  months. I was able to keep it in 
check, but then  a week ago, she suddenly got much worse.  I have been 
unable to get enough CS in her to make a big difference. If I just give 
it to her in place of water, she quits drinking at all.  She seems to be 
on her last legs.


As far as I have been able to determine, it seems to be a variety of 
atopic dermatitis probably caused by environmental inflammation, or 
possibly internal inflammation. It is mainly on her belly, now the entire 
belly, and some on her face. It is very tender at this point.


I am feeling like grinding up the silver and feeding it to her with the 
next batch of soup which is all she wil eat.


I had been giving her some supplements to lesson her toxic burden on her 
liver, but the infection is trumping everything else I do.


Any ideas will be appreciated, thank you for your attention and possible 
input.


Sincerely, Kathryn




I just talked to the vet, who said the dog has an inflammatory skin 
disorder, but does not know the cause of it, and suggest a more thorough 
workup to try to determine that; and is not sure if there is infection 
present or if it is just fluid seeping, would have to look at it. The dog 
is also very old- 13, I think.


To me, it looks somewhat like the pictures I saw online of mice with 
atopic dermatitis, which had a staph infection as well. That is why I 
thought that it was still perhaps infected.  The inflammation is pretty 
bad. I am looking to see if I can find reasons for inflammation, I know 
about the biotoxin mediated inflammation, but not sure that is what is 
going on here, and there are not any easily available tests for dogs for 
that. Still looking for other causes of inflammation...


Of course I have been spraying it with CS daily for a long time.

Kathryn


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