Re: Richard: Re: CS>CS and HIV
a Silvergen generator producing around 20 ppm - Richard On 14/05/2009, at 19:47, jenny goodhealth wrote: What brand of CS or what CS generator your friend use to reduce her HIV virus load to 0? Pls. advise. Thanks. jen - --- On Tue, 5/12/09, ATOMICSILVER wrote: From: ATOMICSILVER Subject: Re: CS>CS and HIV To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 8:44 AM roughly 20 ppm along with apple cider vinegar seperately On 12/05/2009, at 3:31, Hanneke wrote: > Hi Richard, > > What strength was your friend using? > > Hanneke > > At 04:06 AM 12/05/2009, you wrote: >> Last year I treated a friend with HIV with a liter a week of strong >> cs over a periond of three months and brought her viral load down to >> zero- there was no trace of Hiv left in her body ! She now has more >> energy, her periods are back and generally more positive. By the way, >> the doctor showed no interest in her recovery or how it came >> about .. Richard >> On 11/05/2009, at 1:24, Hanneke wrote: >> >>> Thanks Smitty, great suggestion. I had forgotten about that. Got >>> the books here so that would help. Not sure if her command of >>> English is such that she will fully comprehend it. >>> >>> Before I suggest MMS, I have to find out first if this is available >>> in Holland. >>> >>> At 02:49 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: >>>> > A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive . . . >>>> > Any suggestions? >>>> > Thanks >>>> > Hanneke >>>> >>>> Yes. . .tell her to read this = >>>> >>>> http://mmsadvisor.com/ >>>> >>>> Smitty >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal >>>> Silver. >>>> >>>> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >>>> >>>> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >>>> >>>> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >>>> >>>> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >>>> >>>> List maintainer: Mike Devour >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >>>> Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >>>> Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:52:53 PM >>>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >>>> http://www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >>> Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >>> Tested on: 11/05/2009 3:54:11 PM >>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >>> http://www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> ATOMICSILVER >> atomicsil...@gmail.com >> www.atomicsilver.info >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >> Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:49:54 AM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 > Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:01:46 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info
Richard: Re: CS>CS and HIV
What brand of CS or what CS generator your friend use to reduce her HIV virus load to 0? Pls. advise. Thanks. jen - --- On Tue, 5/12/09, ATOMICSILVER wrote: From: ATOMICSILVER Subject: Re: CS>CS and HIV To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 8:44 AM roughly 20 ppm along with apple cider vinegar seperately On 12/05/2009, at 3:31, Hanneke wrote: > Hi Richard, > > What strength was your friend using? > > Hanneke > > At 04:06 AM 12/05/2009, you wrote: >> Last year I treated a friend with HIV with a liter a week of strong >> cs over a periond of three months and brought her viral load down to >> zero- there was no trace of Hiv left in her body ! She now has more >> energy, her periods are back and generally more positive. By the way, >> the doctor showed no interest in her recovery or how it came >> about .. Richard >> On 11/05/2009, at 1:24, Hanneke wrote: >> >>> Thanks Smitty, great suggestion. I had forgotten about that. Got >>> the books here so that would help. Not sure if her command of >>> English is such that she will fully comprehend it. >>> >>> Before I suggest MMS, I have to find out first if this is available >>> in Holland. >>> >>> At 02:49 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: >>>> > A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive . . . >>>> > Any suggestions? >>>> > Thanks >>>> > Hanneke >>>> >>>> Yes. . .tell her to read this = >>>> >>>> http://mmsadvisor.com/ >>>> >>>> Smitty >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal >>>> Silver. >>>> >>>> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org >>>> >>>> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com >>>> >>>> Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com >>>> >>>> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >>>> >>>> List maintainer: Mike Devour >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >>>> Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >>>> Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:52:53 PM >>>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >>>> http://www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> >>> --- >>> avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >>> Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >>> Tested on: 11/05/2009 3:54:11 PM >>> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >>> http://www.avast.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> ATOMICSILVER >> atomicsil...@gmail.com >> www.atomicsilver.info >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >> Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >> Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:49:54 AM >> avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >> http://www.avast.com >> >> > > > > --- > avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. > Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 > Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:01:46 PM > avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info
Re: CS>CS and HIV
roughly 20 ppm along with apple cider vinegar seperately On 12/05/2009, at 3:31, Hanneke wrote: Hi Richard, What strength was your friend using? Hanneke At 04:06 AM 12/05/2009, you wrote: Last year I treated a friend with HIV with a liter a week of strong cs over a periond of three months and brought her viral load down to zero- there was no trace of Hiv left in her body ! She now has more energy, her periods are back and generally more positive. By the way, the doctor showed no interest in her recovery or how it came about .. Richard On 11/05/2009, at 1:24, Hanneke wrote: Thanks Smitty, great suggestion. I had forgotten about that. Got the books here so that would help. Not sure if her command of English is such that she will fully comprehend it. Before I suggest MMS, I have to find out first if this is available in Holland. At 02:49 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: > A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive . . . > Any suggestions? > Thanks > Hanneke Yes. . .tell her to read this = http://mmsadvisor.com/ Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:52:53 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 3:54:11 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:49:54 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:01:46 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info
Re: CS>CS and HIV
Well, I am of the opinion that the HIV virus, if it exists, is really nothing more than a marker. There are several reasons for this. One is if you give the HIV test to anyone, without diluting the specimen by 50:1 or so, it will always indicate positive. HIV is the ONLY blood test where you have to do this, and it seems to mean that EVERYONE has the virus, but by diluting the blood, it will only appear that a person is HIV positive if they have more than some minimum level of the virus. Apparently a healthy immune system is able to keep it down to low levels in a healthy person. So using something to simply reduce the HIV count is working on the symptom, not the cause. I think that there is good evidence that most immune system problems which can progress into AIDS are caused by toxins, benzine and its derivatives are major players, or parasites, which is the primary cause in Africa. If you look at the statistics, many many people who test HIV positive never ever develop AIDS, except those who take the medications for it, and virtually all of them do develop it. Marshall Hanneke wrote: Thanks Marshall, I had sent out an email to her asking her reasons for thinking why she believes her immune system is terribly low. Also if she had any details about viral load (up-down over a period of time). I was already thinking of separating the HIV part from her immune system problems, or perceived as such. Haven't received a response as yet. What is the strength of CS you'd suggest for killing off the HIV virus (even writing this down makes me wonder.. always accepted the fact that there was never an HIV virus identified and that most of the mainstream writing about it just works on the myth and the beliefs created). Perhaps time to watch Len Horowitz again in one of his documentaries... At 01:22 AM 12/05/2009, you wrote: Hanneke wrote: A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? CS does kill the HIV virus, but I think she need to figure out why her immunity is so low that the virus can present itself. If she can get it below the high threshold of the test it would be good. I would recommend avoiding anything that might have benzene or its derivatives in it. That includes products with benzoic acid in them, Marshall Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:49:47 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:00:08 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: CS>CS and HIV
Thanks Ode. That's another great example that CS will help her with her HIV virus. Are you aware of the time it took her for the HIV become undetectable? If she were closer (living in the same country) she could use one of my silverpuppies. Will encourage her to search around in Holland where she can get an affordable generator. Got the description here for the 3 battery one so can always pass that on if none available. At 08:10 PM 12/05/2009, you wrote: I gave a friend a generator to try out on her Hep C. At 1 pint a day @15 PPM, it didn't do anything to the Hep C but her HIV tests went to undetectable. As a welder and sheet metal worker, she said she was healing from burns and cuts faster than she ever had and she felt better than she had for years. Ode At 11:52 AM 5/11/2009 -0400, you wrote: Hanneke wrote: A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? CS does kill the HIV virus, but I think she need to figure out why her immunity is so low that the virus can present itself. If she can get it below the high threshold of the test it would be good. I would recommend avoiding anything that might have benzene or its derivatives in it. That includes products with benzoic acid in them, Marshall Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 8:32:08 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 8:44:02 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: CS>CS and HIV
I gave a friend a generator to try out on her Hep C. At 1 pint a day @15 PPM, it didn't do anything to the Hep C but her HIV tests went to undetectable. As a welder and sheet metal worker, she said she was healing from burns and cuts faster than she ever had and she felt better than she had for years. Ode At 11:52 AM 5/11/2009 -0400, you wrote: Hanneke wrote: A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? CS does kill the HIV virus, but I think she need to figure out why her immunity is so low that the virus can present itself. If she can get it below the high threshold of the test it would be good. I would recommend avoiding anything that might have benzene or its derivatives in it. That includes products with benzoic acid in them, Marshall Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS and HIV
Hi Richard, What strength was your friend using? Hanneke At 04:06 AM 12/05/2009, you wrote: Last year I treated a friend with HIV with a liter a week of strong cs over a periond of three months and brought her viral load down to zero- there was no trace of Hiv left in her body ! She now has more energy, her periods are back and generally more positive. By the way, the doctor showed no interest in her recovery or how it came about .. Richard On 11/05/2009, at 1:24, Hanneke wrote: Thanks Smitty, great suggestion. I had forgotten about that. Got the books here so that would help. Not sure if her command of English is such that she will fully comprehend it. Before I suggest MMS, I have to find out first if this is available in Holland. At 02:49 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: > A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive . . . > Any suggestions? > Thanks > Hanneke Yes. . .tell her to read this = http://mmsadvisor.com/ Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:52:53 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 3:54:11 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:49:54 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:01:46 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: CS>CS and HIV
Thanks Marshall, I had sent out an email to her asking her reasons for thinking why she believes her immune system is terribly low. Also if she had any details about viral load (up-down over a period of time). I was already thinking of separating the HIV part from her immune system problems, or perceived as such. Haven't received a response as yet. What is the strength of CS you'd suggest for killing off the HIV virus (even writing this down makes me wonder.. always accepted the fact that there was never an HIV virus identified and that most of the mainstream writing about it just works on the myth and the beliefs created). Perhaps time to watch Len Horowitz again in one of his documentaries... At 01:22 AM 12/05/2009, you wrote: Hanneke wrote: A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? CS does kill the HIV virus, but I think she need to figure out why her immunity is so low that the virus can present itself. If she can get it below the high threshold of the test it would be good. I would recommend avoiding anything that might have benzene or its derivatives in it. That includes products with benzoic acid in them, Marshall Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:49:47 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090511-0, 11/05/2009 Tested on: 12/05/2009 6:00:08 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
RE: CS>CS and HIV
Thank you so much, I will check that out for her. I might give her a call over the weekend and discuss things then. It appears she is pretty much unaware of what HIV is about (or is not about) except for the possibility of developing AIDS, prtty much mainstream thinking. I understand that she is totally new to alternative approaches. It would be great if she reads English web sites which apparently she doesn't. And truth be told, I am totally lost if I have to find info on Dutch websites even though I am fluent in Dutch. To me it seems that a lot of info is being surpressed or just not translated at all. I have read some websites on CS, in the Dutch language. which gives the newcomer to CS the impression that you really take your life into your own hands with even thinking about CS let alone taking it. At least one can purchase it. At 10:25 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: Bloesem Remedies The Netherlands Bram Zaalberg St. Jansstraat 5 5964 AA Horst Meterik The Netherlands Tel: 31 77 398 7826 Fax: 31 77 398 7827 Email: i...@bloesem-remedies.com Web: www.bloesem-remedies.com there is a little write up on each essence in Dutch she might like to read, but with out a book she will need a practioner. You have to search in the menu under Bloesem Remedies then Australian Flower essences as they have more than one type of essences. The Australian ones though IMO are more curative than the others though She will be able to get a practioner I am sure from this companies recommendation, as she will then get the best help for her. I have ordered some Emergency Essence once from this company for a fellow list member on another list when she had deep grief and problems with her dogs (was a dog behaviour list) and knew the dog was picking up on her grief and both could use it. My shipping her some would have taken too long. The company was very good in allowing me to pay with PayPal :o))) Even though they had never taken an order from over seas before. They knew I was trying to help. By the way the Emergency Essence was of great help for her and her dog. Louise -Original Message- From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 2:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>CS and HIV Thanks Louise. I believe she is able to buy CS in Holland which means she can take it as suggested. Re Ian White's book, there might be a problem as in language barrier not knowing is she has English language skills.. I can guide her but I believe it is best if people understand what they are doing rather than following my suggestions. At 02:27 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: >She might look into Australian Bush Flower Essences Australian Bush Flower >Healing book by Ian White has a section on boosting the immune system on >page 310, but repertorizing for all symptoms is a good idea to find the best >mix for that particular person. The also on the same page have some >essences suggestions for viral infections that might also be helpful. > >Some Emergency Essence might also be useful as well >http://www.copper-tree.ca/essences/combo-info08a.pdf >gives not on this combinations as well as others. > >I think that CS is good but in Europe they are using it as IV with some >herbal tinctures to treat viral infections. > >Louise > >-Original Message- >From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] >Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:31 PM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: CS>CS and HIV > > >A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been >for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. >In general she appears to be doing ok. >She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS >would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was >going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more >clues). > >I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS >whilst looking further into it on her behalf. > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks >Hanneke > > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >http://www.avast.com > > > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:32
Re: CS>CS and HIV
Last year I treated a friend with HIV with a liter a week of strong cs over a periond of three months and brought her viral load down to zero- there was no trace of Hiv left in her body ! She now has more energy, her periods are back and generally more positive. By the way, the doctor showed no interest in her recovery or how it came about .. Richard On 11/05/2009, at 1:24, Hanneke wrote: Thanks Smitty, great suggestion. I had forgotten about that. Got the books here so that would help. Not sure if her command of English is such that she will fully comprehend it. Before I suggest MMS, I have to find out first if this is available in Holland. At 02:49 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: > A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive . . . > Any suggestions? > Thanks > Hanneke Yes. . .tell her to read this = http://mmsadvisor.com/ Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:52:53 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 3:54:11 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com ATOMICSILVER atomicsil...@gmail.com www.atomicsilver.info
Re: CS>CS and HIV
Hanneke wrote: A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? CS does kill the HIV virus, but I think she need to figure out why her immunity is so low that the virus can present itself. If she can get it below the high threshold of the test it would be good. I would recommend avoiding anything that might have benzene or its derivatives in it. That includes products with benzoic acid in them, Marshall Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>CS and HIV
Some have been translated, will check if one is Dutch. Louise -Original Message- From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 2:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>CS and HIV Thanks Louise. I believe she is able to buy CS in Holland which means she can take it as suggested. Re Ian White's book, there might be a problem as in language barrier not knowing is she has English language skills.. I can guide her but I believe it is best if people understand what they are doing rather than following my suggestions. At 02:27 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: >She might look into Australian Bush Flower Essences Australian Bush Flower >Healing book by Ian White has a section on boosting the immune system on >page 310, but repertorizing for all symptoms is a good idea to find the best >mix for that particular person. The also on the same page have some >essences suggestions for viral infections that might also be helpful. > >Some Emergency Essence might also be useful as well >http://www.copper-tree.ca/essences/combo-info08a.pdf >gives not on this combinations as well as others. > >I think that CS is good but in Europe they are using it as IV with some >herbal tinctures to treat viral infections. > >Louise > >-Original Message- >From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] >Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:31 PM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: CS>CS and HIV > > >A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been >for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. >In general she appears to be doing ok. >She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS >would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was >going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more >clues). > >I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS >whilst looking further into it on her behalf. > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks >Hanneke > > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >http://www.avast.com > > > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:32:21 PM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 4:01:50 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
RE: CS>CS and HIV
Bloesem Remedies The Netherlands Bram Zaalberg St. Jansstraat 5 5964 AA Horst Meterik The Netherlands Tel: 31 77 398 7826 Fax: 31 77 398 7827 Email: i...@bloesem-remedies.com Web: www.bloesem-remedies.com there is a little write up on each essence in Dutch she might like to read, but with out a book she will need a practioner. You have to search in the menu under Bloesem Remedies then Australian Flower essences as they have more than one type of essences. The Australian ones though IMO are more curative than the others though She will be able to get a practioner I am sure from this companies recommendation, as she will then get the best help for her. I have ordered some Emergency Essence once from this company for a fellow list member on another list when she had deep grief and problems with her dogs (was a dog behaviour list) and knew the dog was picking up on her grief and both could use it. My shipping her some would have taken too long. The company was very good in allowing me to pay with PayPal :o))) Even though they had never taken an order from over seas before. They knew I was trying to help. By the way the Emergency Essence was of great help for her and her dog. Louise -Original Message- From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 2:32 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>CS and HIV Thanks Louise. I believe she is able to buy CS in Holland which means she can take it as suggested. Re Ian White's book, there might be a problem as in language barrier not knowing is she has English language skills.. I can guide her but I believe it is best if people understand what they are doing rather than following my suggestions. At 02:27 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: >She might look into Australian Bush Flower Essences Australian Bush Flower >Healing book by Ian White has a section on boosting the immune system on >page 310, but repertorizing for all symptoms is a good idea to find the best >mix for that particular person. The also on the same page have some >essences suggestions for viral infections that might also be helpful. > >Some Emergency Essence might also be useful as well >http://www.copper-tree.ca/essences/combo-info08a.pdf >gives not on this combinations as well as others. > >I think that CS is good but in Europe they are using it as IV with some >herbal tinctures to treat viral infections. > >Louise > >-Original Message- >From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] >Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:31 PM >To: silver-list@eskimo.com >Subject: CS>CS and HIV > > >A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been >for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. >In general she appears to be doing ok. >She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS >would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was >going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more >clues). > >I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS >whilst looking further into it on her behalf. > >Any suggestions? > >Thanks >Hanneke > > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >http://www.avast.com > > > > >-- >The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > >Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > >The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > >List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > >--- >avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. >Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 >Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:32:21 PM >avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. >http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 4:01:50 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
RE: CS>CS and HIV
Thanks Louise. I believe she is able to buy CS in Holland which means she can take it as suggested. Re Ian White's book, there might be a problem as in language barrier not knowing is she has English language skills.. I can guide her but I believe it is best if people understand what they are doing rather than following my suggestions. At 02:27 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: She might look into Australian Bush Flower Essences Australian Bush Flower Healing book by Ian White has a section on boosting the immune system on page 310, but repertorizing for all symptoms is a good idea to find the best mix for that particular person. The also on the same page have some essences suggestions for viral infections that might also be helpful. Some Emergency Essence might also be useful as well http://www.copper-tree.ca/essences/combo-info08a.pdf gives not on this combinations as well as others. I think that CS is good but in Europe they are using it as IV with some herbal tinctures to treat viral infections. Louise -Original Message- From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>CS and HIV A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:32:21 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 4:01:50 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: CS>CS and HIV
Thanks Smitty, great suggestion. I had forgotten about that. Got the books here so that would help. Not sure if her command of English is such that she will fully comprehend it. Before I suggest MMS, I have to find out first if this is available in Holland. At 02:49 PM 11/05/2009, you wrote: > A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive . . . > Any suggestions? > Thanks > Hanneke Yes. . .tell her to read this = http://mmsadvisor.com/ Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 2:52:53 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 3:54:11 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com
Re: CS>CS and HIV
Henneke, If it were me I'd follow the Beck protocol of blood electrification along with taking CS (probably much larger amounts). In addition I would look into possibly taking MMS (Miracle Mineral Supplement or chlorine dioxide) and perhaps some anti viral herbs such as bloodroot and chaparral. Good luck. Bob - Original Message - From: "Hanneke" To: Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 5:31 PM Subject: CS>CS and HIV A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>CS and HIV
> A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive . . . > Any suggestions? > Thanks > Hanneke Yes. . .tell her to read this = http://mmsadvisor.com/ Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>CS and HIV
She might look into Australian Bush Flower Essences Australian Bush Flower Healing book by Ian White has a section on boosting the immune system on page 310, but repertorizing for all symptoms is a good idea to find the best mix for that particular person. The also on the same page have some essences suggestions for viral infections that might also be helpful. Some Emergency Essence might also be useful as well http://www.copper-tree.ca/essences/combo-info08a.pdf gives not on this combinations as well as others. I think that CS is good but in Europe they are using it as IV with some herbal tinctures to treat viral infections. Louise -Original Message- From: Hanneke [mailto:bloss...@internode.on.net] Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:31 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>CS and HIV A friend's daughter, in her early 30's, is HIV positive and has been for years. Not using any HIV meds, only taking several supplements. In general she appears to be doing ok. She believes her immunity is going down hill and wonders if CS would help. (have asked her what made her think her immunity was going down and further info re any complaints might hopefully give more clues). I have initially suggested for her to take 1 ounce of 10-15 ppm CS whilst looking further into it on her behalf. Any suggestions? Thanks Hanneke --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 090510-0, 10/05/2009 Tested on: 11/05/2009 10:01:07 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
