Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika
This message is getting louder and louder by the minute, thank God! Thank you for this video. Faith G. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:00 AM Subject: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika http://waronyou.com/2008/05/chemical-dumbing-down-of-america/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika
No problem, just pass it along to those you know, and hopefully they'll do the same. Kurt Faith Gagne wrote: > This message is getting louder and louder by the minute, thank God! Thank > you for this video. Faith G. > > > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:00 AM > Subject: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika > > > > http://waronyou.com/2008/05/chemical-dumbing-down-of-america/ > > > > > > -- > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > >
Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika
I will pass it along. the problem is that some people are not willing to listen to this yet. Faith G, - Original Message - From: To: Cc: "Faith Gagne" Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:39 AM Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika No problem, just pass it along to those you know, and hopefully they'll do the same. Kurt Faith Gagne wrote: This message is getting louder and louder by the minute, thank God! Thank you for this video. Faith G. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:00 AM Subject: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika > http://waronyou.com/2008/05/chemical-dumbing-down-of-america/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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No need to tell me about that Faith! lol Faith Gagne wrote: > I will pass it along. the problem is that some people are not willing to > listen to this yet. Faith G, > > > - Original Message - > From: > To: > Cc: "Faith Gagne" > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:39 AM > Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika > > > > No problem, just pass it along to those you know, and hopefully they'll do > > the same. > > > > Kurt > > Faith Gagne wrote: > >> This message is getting louder and louder by the minute, thank God! > >> Thank > >> you for this video. Faith G. > >> > >> > >> - Original Message - > >> From: > >> To: > >> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:00 AM > >> Subject: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika > >> > >> > >> > http://waronyou.com/2008/05/chemical-dumbing-down-of-america/ > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
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e claimed as true, when the whole truth is bigger than even CAN be acknowledged even if we DO use the limited tools we DO have TO USE, properly] Ode The builders of personal reality creed: "Gee, that looks like shit, but at least it took a long time and hurt a lot" [ Maaaybe I oughta scrap it and call wasted time and effort a waste? ] Naww... God gave me the ability to swing a hammer, sore thumbs are HIS fault. Now look what you made me do! [But, you see. God doesn't care what you do with hammers. It's not at all hard to see: "They know not what they do"...despite any nonsensical beliefs. ] At 09:41 AM 5/24/2008 -0400, you wrote: I will pass it along. the problem is that some people are not willing to listen to this yet. Faith G, - Original Message - From: To: Cc: "Faith Gagne" Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:39 AM Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika No problem, just pass it along to those you know, and hopefully they'll do the same. Kurt Faith Gagne wrote: This message is getting louder and louder by the minute, thank God! Thank you for this video. Faith G. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:00 AM Subject: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika > http://waronyou.com/2008/05/chemical-dumbing-down-of-america/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 3:36 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008
Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika
How about "use the power you have" NO ONE can sell you something you won't buy. If you "buy" fluoridated water and toothpaste, who's the uncaring idiot? If you don't want lead in kid paint, stop buying toys made in China. Arguing that buying that stuff made you too stupid to not buy that stuff doesn't quite wash. Without "you", THEY are out of business...right NOW. It's a no quibble deal. And another thing: If you the consumer is not willing to pay the wages you demand to make something the right way, where do you suppose the jobs will go? ...exactly where they went and done the way they were done? The "consumer" has 100% of the power...but we always want someone else who couldn't care less, to use it the way we want it to be used. "Help me, help me be helplessno, not like that. " What's amazing is that "they" actually care a little bit more than you do. [sometimes not much more] ..and the truth is, not all errors are intentional. "They" know everything beforehand because YOU discovered something after the fact? Even *you* don't work that way. "I'm" mad as Hell and I won't take it anymore" has nothing to do with what "they" are, or aren't, handing out. There is always an alternative if you are willing to risk taking it...but no one to blame. [Except you, if you start supplying it, right? ] I'll just buy a bigger car with more air bags so I can be safe in a crash and no one has to learn how to drive well enough that we don't roll those top heavy behemoths into the ditches that keep the roads safe to drive on in the rain. Then blame the oil company for the cost of all the gas it takes to haul my heavy safe ass around after not buying a smaller car I have to actually steer to avoid getting hurt and blame GM for not making stuff now, that I didn't buy when they did. [Yes, GM DID make a car that got over 50 MPG and it was inexpensive, but not enough of them sold to make continued production worth while and demand for more safety legislated them out of producability...ya'll got what ya'll wanted. Suck it up. That new $7,000 car is now 14-19 years old and rare, is selling for $8,000+ today] Most states demand that you carry liability insurance, but no state says you can't be that insurer...but then, you are betting on yourself instead of paying someone else to take the risk. Hospitals kill ALL of the people who chose to not die at home relying on themselves to be their own doctor and pharmacist. Those that survive either case are never counted. Lookie. "If" Company A is putting waste into your water and you start buying Company Bs water that doesn't have it, Company A is going to have to stop doing that to stay in business...BUT...Company C will also have to find something else to do with that waste and you will have to pay that cost whenever you buy whatever they produce that you wanted to buy. It doesn't matter if that waste is or isn't harmful. If no one buys it, even for the wrong reasons, it won't be in the water that sells. If any water company no longer sells water, it's no longer a company any more. It committed suicide. Don't like the pill pushers? Stop buying pills and they'll go away. You'll be no worse off than your great grandpa who had no pills to buy available...back in the good old days. Ode At 09:41 AM 5/24/2008 -0400, you wrote: I will pass it along. the problem is that some people are not willing to listen to this yet. Faith G, - Original Message - From: To: Cc: "Faith Gagne" Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:39 AM Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika No problem, just pass it along to those you know, and hopefully they'll do the same. Kurt Faith Gagne wrote: This message is getting louder and louder by the minute, thank God! Thank you for this video. Faith G. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:00 AM Subject: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika > http://waronyou.com/2008/05/chemical-dumbing-down-of-america/ -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 3:36 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008
Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika
So when a parent takes thier 5 year old to the dentist for the mercury and the flouride and to the quack for the vaccines, the 5 year old should've known better?? The parents should've but they trusted the quacks and the government, that was a big mistake as history pretty clearly shows. Ode Coyote wrote: > > > How about "use the power you have" > > NO ONE can sell you something you won't buy. > If you "buy" fluoridated water and toothpaste, who's the uncaring idiot? > If you don't want lead in kid paint, stop buying toys made in China. > > Arguing that buying that stuff made you too stupid to not buy that stuff > doesn't quite wash. > Without "you", THEY are out of business...right NOW. > It's a no quibble deal. > > And another thing: If you the consumer is not willing to pay the wages you > demand to make something the right way, where do you suppose the jobs will go? > ...exactly where they went and done the way they were done? > > The "consumer" has 100% of the power...but we always want someone else who > couldn't care less, to use it the way we want it to be used. > "Help me, help me be helplessno, not like that. " > > What's amazing is that "they" actually care a little bit more than you do. > [sometimes not much more] > ..and the truth is, not all errors are intentional. "They" know everything > beforehand because YOU discovered something after the fact? > Even *you* don't work that way. > > "I'm" mad as Hell and I won't take it anymore" has nothing to do with > what "they" are, or aren't, handing out. > There is always an alternative if you are willing to risk taking > it...but no one to blame. [Except you, if you start supplying it, right? > ] > > I'll just buy a bigger car with more air bags so I can be safe in a crash > and no one has to learn how to drive well enough that we don't roll those > top heavy behemoths into the ditches that keep the roads safe to drive on > in the rain. > Then blame the oil company for the cost of all the gas it takes to haul my > heavy safe ass around after not buying a smaller car I have to actually > steer to avoid getting hurt and blame GM for not making stuff now, that I > didn't buy when they did. [Yes, GM DID make a car that got over 50 MPG and > it was inexpensive, but not enough of them sold to make continued > production worth while and demand for more safety legislated them out of > producability...ya'll got what ya'll wanted. Suck it up. That new $7,000 > car is now 14-19 years old and rare, is selling for $8,000+ today] > > Most states demand that you carry liability insurance, but no state says > you can't be that insurer...but then, you are betting on yourself instead > of paying someone else to take the risk. > Hospitals kill ALL of the people who chose to not die at home relying on > themselves to be their own doctor and pharmacist. Those that survive > either case are never counted. > > Lookie. "If" Company A is putting waste into your water and you start > buying Company Bs water that doesn't have it, Company A is going to have to > stop doing that to stay in business...BUT...Company C will also have to > find something else to do with that waste and you will have to pay that > cost whenever you buy whatever they produce that you wanted to buy. > > It doesn't matter if that waste is or isn't harmful. > If no one buys it, even for the wrong reasons, it won't be in the water > that sells. > If any water company no longer sells water, it's no longer a company any > more. It committed suicide. > Don't like the pill pushers? Stop buying pills and they'll go > away. You'll be no worse off than your great grandpa who had no pills to > buy available...back in the good old days. > > Ode > > > > At 09:41 AM 5/24/2008 -0400, you wrote: > > >I will pass it along. the problem is that some people are not willing to > >listen to this yet. Faith G, > > > > > >- Original Message - From: > >To: > >Cc: "Faith Gagne" > >Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 9:39 AM > >Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika > > > > > >>No problem, just pass it along to those you know, and hopefully they'll > >>do the same. > >> > >>Kurt > >> Faith Gagne wrote: > >>>This message is getting louder and louder by the minute, thank God! Thank > >>>you for this video. Faith G. >
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>Yes, GM DID make a car that got over 50 MPG . . . . What make & year was this car ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Sprint 3 cylinder. i bought my son one for collefe. Those who would give up a little Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety-- Benjamin Franklin, 1755 - Original Message - From: "Smitty" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika >Yes, GM DID make a car that got over 50 MPG . . . . What make & year was this car ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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It got over 60 miles to the imperial gallon. It was a pretty tough little car for what it was made out of. A friend had the sprint and I had the geo tracker. Just a little cramped for space if more than 2 people. or when the kids get bigger. : ) T. J. Garland wrote: Sprint 3 cylinder. i bought my son one for collefe. Those who would give up a little Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety-- Benjamin Franklin, 1755 - Original Message - From: "Smitty" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:02 PM Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika >Yes, GM DID make a car that got over 50 MPG . . . . What make & year was this car ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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> It got over 60 miles to the imperial gallon. It was a pretty tough little > car for what it was made out of. A friend had the sprint and I had the geo > tracker. Just a little cramped for space if more than 2 people. or when the > kids get bigger. : ) What year were these ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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We bought 1989 models but the sprint may have been out a year or so before that and they were produced for 6-8 years for sure, maybe longer. Smitty wrote: It got over 60 miles to the imperial gallon. It was a pretty tough little car for what it was made out of. A friend had the sprint and I had the geo tracker. Just a little cramped for space if more than 2 people. or when the kids get bigger. : ) What year were these ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Ode, Please... I mean get real my friend. Nobody buys fluoridated water, it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government. Lead paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the governments job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on almost all fronts. The EPA has become a criminal organization set up to protect polluters and allow industry to pollute our air, water, and food without government interference. It isn't the consumer that isn't willing to pay the wages needed to make something the right way, it is the EMPLOYERS, the CORPORATIONS that are unwilling to pay the wages necessary. You have it all backwards Ode. You say we aren't willing to buy cars that get 50mpg yet the Toyota Prius hybrid is one of the biggest sellers in America while Ford, GM, and Chrysler loose more market share due to their lack of quality economical "green" cars. Give us a good car that gets 40 - 50mpg and I GUARANTEE you they will sell like hotcakes. People are STUCK with their SUV's, nobody wants them anymore and used car lots are overflowing with them.I could go on, but the consumer is NOT "in control" when big business, big pharma, big oil and big government is DICTATING what is to be available. - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 9:01 AM Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika How about "use the power you have" NO ONE can sell you something you won't buy. If you "buy" fluoridated water and toothpaste, who's the uncaring idiot? If you don't want lead in kid paint, stop buying toys made in China. Arguing that buying that stuff made you too stupid to not buy that stuff doesn't quite wash. Without "you", THEY are out of business...right NOW. It's a no quibble deal. And another thing: If you the consumer is not willing to pay the wages you demand to make something the right way, where do you suppose the jobs will go? ...exactly where they went and done the way they were done? The "consumer" has 100% of the power...but we always want someone else who couldn't care less, to use it the way we want it to be used. "Help me, help me be helplessno, not like that. " What's amazing is that "they" actually care a little bit more than you do. [sometimes not much more] ..and the truth is, not all errors are intentional. "They" know everything beforehand because YOU discovered something after the fact? Even *you* don't work that way. "I'm" mad as Hell and I won't take it anymore" has nothing to do with what "they" are, or aren't, handing out. There is always an alternative if you are willing to risk taking it...but no one to blame. [Except you, if you start supplying it, right? ] I'll just buy a bigger car with more air bags so I can be safe in a crash and no one has to learn how to drive well enough that we don't roll those top heavy behemoths into the ditches that keep the roads safe to drive on in the rain. Then blame the oil company for the cost of all the gas it takes to haul my heavy safe ass around after not buying a smaller car I have to actually steer to avoid getting hurt and blame GM for not making stuff now, that I didn't buy when they did. [Yes, GM DID make a car that got over 50 MPG and it was inexpensive, but not enough of them sold to make continued production worth while and demand for more safety legislated them out of producability...ya'll got what ya'll wanted. Suck it up. That new $7,000 car is now 14-19 years old and rare, is selling for $8,000+ today] Most states demand that you carry liability insurance, but no state says you can't be that insurer...but then, you are betting on yourself instead of paying someone else to take the risk. Hospitals kill ALL of the people who chose to not die at home relying on themselves to be their own doctor and pharmacist. Those that survive either case are never counted. Lookie. "If" Company A is putting waste into your water and you start buying Company Bs water that doesn't have it, Company A is going to have to stop doing that to stay in business...BUT...Company C will also have to find something else to do with that waste and you will have to pay that cost whenever you buy whatever they produce that you wanted to buy. It doesn't matter if that waste is or isn't harmful. If no one buys it, even for the wrong reasons, it won't be in the water that sells. If any water company no longer sells water, it's no longer a company any more. It committed suicide. Don't like the pill pushers? Stop buying pills and they'll go away. You
Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika
Mine was an '87 got 60+ miles/ gal. Those who would give up a little Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety-- Benjamin Franklin, 1755 - Original Message - From: "Smitty" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 8:10 PM Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika It got over 60 miles to the imperial gallon. It was a pretty tough little car for what it was made out of. A friend had the sprint and I had the geo tracker. Just a little cramped for space if more than 2 people. or when the kids get bigger. : ) What year were these ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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1989 Sprint 1990-1994 Metro XFI versions get up to 60 MPG.mine only does 54 in reality. Top speed @ around 85 MPH. 1995-2001 models were made bigger and heavier and get around 45 MPG IF it has the 3 cyl engine with 5 speed transmission. Deduct ~8 MPG for automatic, all models. 4 cyl engines are almost as efficient. Made by GM in Canada based on the Suzuki Swift designs, sold both under the Geo and Chevy bowtie badges. I pulled the head off one at 120,000 miles to do a valve job and the engine looked NEW. I was "SOLD" on that alone and bought 7 of them while they were still as cheap as gas was. Ode At 09:02 AM 5/27/2008 -1000, you wrote: >Yes, GM DID make a car that got over 50 MPG . . . . What make & year was this car ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 3:36 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008
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At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote: Ode, Please... I mean get real my friend. Nobody buys fluoridated water, it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government. Lead paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the governments job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on almost all fronts. ## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so that it CAN do that job. Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 gallons is plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your back] and can be bought elsewhere. The EPA has become a criminal organization set up to protect polluters and allow industry to pollute our air, water, and food without government interference. It isn't the consumer that isn't willing to pay the wages needed to make something the right way, it is the EMPLOYERS, the CORPORATIONS that are unwilling to pay the wages necessary. ## Who buys the cheapest product they can find and where do the costs get cut to make that price possible? The "people" work at cross purposes to themselves. Laws are all fine and dandy till the results and costs of enforcement come in...no business operates in a vacuum, nor can it. Gov't sneaks around the back door to resolve conflicting consumer demands, making a "show" for the voters who want and vote for the impossible. You have it all backwards Ode. You say we aren't willing to buy cars that get 50mpg yet the Toyota Prius hybrid is one of the biggest sellers in America while Ford, GM, and Chrysler loose more market share due to their lack of quality economical "green" cars. Give us a good car that gets 40 - 50mpg and I GUARANTEE you they will sell like hotcakes. ## NOW they will. With all that hindsight at work. But "Now" due to all the consumers clamoring for big and heavy safety to protect against collisions with big and heavy safe cars, a heavy Prious NEEDS an expensive hybrid setup to get WORSE mileage than the cars that DIDN'T sell back when they WERE made. People are STUCK with their SUV's, nobody wants them anymore and used car lots are overflowing with them.I could go on, but the consumer is NOT "in control" when big business, big pharma, big oil and big government is DICTATING what is to be available. ## The Gov't dictates to satisfy conflicting consumer demands. [which is the sort of nonsense that make dictates necessary ] If consumers had bought what they needed for the *utterly predictable future* rather than for their egoic present "desire", no dictate would have been necessary to make the difficult and expensive possible when cheap and simple economy that already exceeded the dictates was already a proven fact...IN USE. So now people are "stuck" with their short sighted decisions and once AGAIN a nearly new 1975 Cadillac Fleetwood will sell for $50...and once AGAIN, I'll not be able to sell that 60,000 mile Buick Electra 225 that was given to me for anything but scrap. 3 really big warnings and no one learned a damned thing. On top of that, even an SUV can get over 200 miles per gallon, per person.all it takes is some organization and planning, but "people" just will not do it. The Gov't is always 3 steps behind us, trying to make things work in SPITE of what we bought into and want. So long as they can rob Peter to pay Paul to get elected to accomplish the impossible and retire before the bill gets passed back to them, they'll do just that. "They" are people too. "We" claim to love our grand kids, but expect someone else to BEHAVE like that's true. No different than any politician we hired to be the *us* we deny we are. I do not have it backwards. Denial has warped reality perception to where the after effect and resultant stop gap emergency dictate, becomes the cause. People believe they can live on credit cards too, then blame the banks when they go broke paying the interest they didn't have in their own futures. [DUH! ] Dumb as posts and voting for more of the same, done by a new bunch of representatives to kick later on. Meanwhile, the one guy that has the guts to say the Gov't can't do it, [because it CAN'T and never could for very long without stepping on the same toes it's trying to sidestep and wasting enormous sums of money doing it ] gets shot to Hell in the polls. Good luck..that has "historically" always worked. [to do exactly "this" ] If it has never worked, do it harder to someone else, using someone else to do it. ..and when you run out of someone elses, it's their fault. Ode -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.
Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika
Got one to sell? I am not far from you. Those who would give up a little Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety-- Benjamin Franklin, 1755 - Original Message - From: "Ode Coyote" To: Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 9:51 AM Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika 1989 Sprint 1990-1994 Metro XFI versions get up to 60 MPG.mine only does 54 in reality. Top speed @ around 85 MPH. 1995-2001 models were made bigger and heavier and get around 45 MPG IF it has the 3 cyl engine with 5 speed transmission. Deduct ~8 MPG for automatic, all models. 4 cyl engines are almost as efficient. Made by GM in Canada based on the Suzuki Swift designs, sold both under the Geo and Chevy bowtie badges. I pulled the head off one at 120,000 miles to do a valve job and the engine looked NEW. I was "SOLD" on that alone and bought 7 of them while they were still as cheap as gas was. Ode At 09:02 AM 5/27/2008 -1000, you wrote: >Yes, GM DID make a car that got over 50 MPG . . . . What make & year was this car ? Smitty -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 3:36 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008
Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika
The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to take a guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the ones we are going to blast next-Iran. Kurt Ode Coyote wrote: > At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote: > > >Ode, > > > >Please... I mean get real my friend. Nobody buys fluoridated water, > > it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government. Lead > > paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of > > knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the governments > > job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on almost > > all fronts. > >## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so that > it CAN do that job. > Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 gallons is > plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your back] > and can be bought elsewhere. > > > > > The EPA has become a criminal organization set up to protect polluters > > and allow industry to pollute our air, water, and food without government > > interference. It isn't the consumer that isn't willing to pay the wages > > needed to make something the right way, it is the EMPLOYERS, the > > CORPORATIONS that are unwilling to pay the wages necessary. > > ## Who buys the cheapest product they can find and where do the costs get > cut to make that price possible? > The "people" work at cross purposes to themselves. > Laws are all fine and dandy till the results and costs of enforcement come > in...no business operates in a vacuum, nor can it. > Gov't sneaks around the back door to resolve conflicting consumer > demands, making a "show" for the voters who want and vote for the impossible. > > > You have it all backwards Ode. You say we aren't willing to buy cars > > that get 50mpg yet the Toyota Prius hybrid is one of the biggest sellers > > in America while Ford, GM, and Chrysler loose more market share due to > > their lack of quality economical "green" cars. Give us a good car that > > gets 40 - 50mpg and I GUARANTEE you they will sell like hotcakes. > > ## NOW they will. With all that hindsight at work. > But "Now" due to all the consumers clamoring for big and heavy safety to > protect against collisions with big and heavy safe cars, a heavy Prious > NEEDS an expensive hybrid setup to get WORSE mileage than the cars that > DIDN'T sell back when they WERE made. > > > People are STUCK with their SUV's, nobody wants them anymore and used > > car lots are overflowing with them.I could go on, but the consumer is > > NOT "in control" when big business, big pharma, big oil and big > > government is DICTATING what is to be available. > > ## The Gov't dictates to satisfy conflicting consumer demands. [which is > the sort of nonsense that make dictates necessary ] > If consumers had bought what they needed for the *utterly predictable > future* rather than for their egoic present "desire", no dictate would have > been necessary to make the difficult and expensive possible when cheap and > simple economy that already exceeded the dictates was already a proven > fact...IN USE. > So now people are "stuck" with their short sighted decisions and once AGAIN > a nearly new 1975 Cadillac Fleetwood will sell for $50...and once AGAIN, > I'll not be able to sell that 60,000 mile Buick Electra 225 that was given > to me for anything but scrap. > 3 really big warnings and no one learned a damned thing. > > On top of that, even an SUV can get over 200 miles per gallon, per > person.all it takes is some organization and planning, but "people" > just will not do it. > > The Gov't is always 3 steps behind us, trying to make things work in SPITE > of what we bought into and want. > So long as they can rob Peter to pay Paul to get elected to accomplish the > impossible and retire before the bill gets passed back to them, they'll do > just that. > "They" are people too. > "We" claim to love our grand kids, but expect someone else to BEHAVE like > that's true. No different than any politician we hired to be the *us* we > deny we are. > > I do not have it backwards. > Denial has warped reality perception to where the after effect and > resultant stop gap emergency dictate, becomes the cause. > People believe they can live on credit cards too, then blame the banks when > they go broke paying the interest they didn't have in their own > futures. [DUH! ] > Dumb as posts and voting for more of the same, done by a new bunch of > representatives to kick later on. > Meanwhile, the one guy that has the guts to say the Gov't can't do it, > [be
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Just a reminder...we do have an off topic list! Hanneke At 05:30 AM 30/05/2008, you wrote: The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to take a guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the ones we are going to blast next-Iran. Kurt Ode Coyote wrote: > At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote: > > >Ode, > > > >Please... I mean get real my friend. Nobody buys fluoridated water, > > it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government. Lead > > paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of > > knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the governments > > job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on almost > > all fronts. > >## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so that > it CAN do that job. > Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 gallons is > plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your back] > and can be bought elsewhere. > > > > > The EPA has become a criminal organization set up to protect polluters > > and allow industry to pollute our air, water, and food without government > > interference. It isn't the consumer that isn't willing to pay the wages > > needed to make something the right way, it is the EMPLOYERS, the > > CORPORATIONS that are unwilling to pay the wages necessary. > > ## Who buys the cheapest product they can find and where do the costs get > cut to make that price possible? > The "people" work at cross purposes to themselves. > Laws are all fine and dandy till the results and costs of enforcement come > in...no business operates in a vacuum, nor can it. > Gov't sneaks around the back door to resolve conflicting consumer > demands, making a "show" for the voters who want and vote for the impossible. > > > You have it all backwards Ode. You say we aren't willing to buy cars > > that get 50mpg yet the Toyota Prius hybrid is one of the biggest sellers > > in America while Ford, GM, and Chrysler loose more market share due to > > their lack of quality economical "green" cars. Give us a good car that > > gets 40 - 50mpg and I GUARANTEE you they will sell like hotcakes. > > ## NOW they will. With all that hindsight at work. > But "Now" due to all the consumers clamoring for big and heavy safety to > protect against collisions with big and heavy safe cars, a heavy Prious > NEEDS an expensive hybrid setup to get WORSE mileage than the cars that > DIDN'T sell back when they WERE made. > > > People are STUCK with their SUV's, nobody wants them anymore and used > > car lots are overflowing with them.I could go on, but the consumer is > > NOT "in control" when big business, big pharma, big oil and big > > government is DICTATING what is to be available. > > ## The Gov't dictates to satisfy conflicting consumer demands. [which is > the sort of nonsense that make dictates necessary ] > If consumers had bought what they needed for the *utterly predictable > future* rather than for their egoic present "desire", no dictate would have > been necessary to make the difficult and expensive possible when cheap and > simple economy that already exceeded the dictates was already a proven > fact...IN USE. > So now people are "stuck" with their short sighted decisions and once AGAIN > a nearly new 1975 Cadillac Fleetwood will sell for $50...and once AGAIN, > I'll not be able to sell that 60,000 mile Buick Electra 225 that was given > to me for anything but scrap. > 3 really big warnings and no one learned a damned thing. > > On top of that, even an SUV can get over 200 miles per gallon, per > person.all it takes is some organization and planning, but "people" > just will not do it. > > The Gov't is always 3 steps behind us, trying to make things work in SPITE > of what we bought into and want. > So long as they can rob Peter to pay Paul to get elected to accomplish the > impossible and retire before the bill gets passed back to them, they'll do > just that. > "They" are people too. > "We" claim to love our grand kids, but expect someone else to BEHAVE like > that's true. No different than any politician we hired to be the *us* we > deny we are. > > I do not have it backwards. > Denial has warped reality perception to where the after effect and > resultant stop gap emergency dictate, becomes the cause. > People believe they can live on credit cards too, then blame the banks when > they go broke paying the interest they didn't have in their own > futures. [DUH! ] > Dumb as posts and voting for more of the same, done by a new bunch of > representatives to kick later on. > Meanwhile, the one guy
Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika
Sure...get your globe out, take the longitudinal line north and south of Baghdad, the next phase will be eastward to Alaska. Where else? Those earthquakes really softened them up, so cut off the Iranian pipeline to China. Should be a piece of cake, don't get excited, think of the opportunities ...the power!!! Wait a minute, isn't the world radioactive enough? Dig..dig dig dig dig a fallout shelter that is. I'm going to bury an old school bus in concrete, how deep? Shep The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to take a guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the ones we are going to blast next-Iran. Kurt Ode Coyote wrote: At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote: Ode, Please... I mean get real my friend. Nobody buys fluoridated water, it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government. Lead paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the governments job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on almost all fronts. ## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so that it CAN do that job. Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 gallons is plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your back] and can be bought elsewhere. The EPA has become a criminal organization set up to protect polluters and allow industry to pollute our air, water, and food without government interference. It isn't the consumer that isn't willing to pay the wages needed to make something the right way, it is the EMPLOYERS, the CORPORATIONS that are unwilling to pay the wages necessary. ## Who buys the cheapest product they can find and where do the costs get cut to make that price possible? The "people" work at cross purposes to themselves. Laws are all fine and dandy till the results and costs of enforcement come in...no business operates in a vacuum, nor can it. Gov't sneaks around the back door to resolve conflicting consumer demands, making a "show" for the voters who want and vote for the impossible. You have it all backwards Ode. You say we aren't willing to buy cars that get 50mpg yet the Toyota Prius hybrid is one of the biggest sellers in America while Ford, GM, and Chrysler loose more market share due to their lack of quality economical "green" cars. Give us a good car that gets 40 - 50mpg and I GUARANTEE you they will sell like hotcakes. ## NOW they will. With all that hindsight at work. But "Now" due to all the consumers clamoring for big and heavy safety to protect against collisions with big and heavy safe cars, a heavy Prious NEEDS an expensive hybrid setup to get WORSE mileage than the cars that DIDN'T sell back when they WERE made. People are STUCK with their SUV's, nobody wants them anymore and used car lots are overflowing with them.I could go on, but the consumer is NOT "in control" when big business, big pharma, big oil and big government is DICTATING what is to be available. ## The Gov't dictates to satisfy conflicting consumer demands. [which is the sort of nonsense that make dictates necessary ] If consumers had bought what they needed for the *utterly predictable future* rather than for their egoic present "desire", no dictate would have been necessary to make the difficult and expensive possible when cheap and simple economy that already exceeded the dictates was already a proven fact...IN USE. So now people are "stuck" with their short sighted decisions and once AGAIN a nearly new 1975 Cadillac Fleetwood will sell for $50...and once AGAIN, I'll not be able to sell that 60,000 mile Buick Electra 225 that was given to me for anything but scrap. 3 really big warnings and no one learned a damned thing. On top of that, even an SUV can get over 200 miles per gallon, per person.all it takes is some organization and planning, but "people" just will not do it. The Gov't is always 3 steps behind us, trying to make things work in SPITE of what we bought into and want. So long as they can rob Peter to pay Paul to get elected to accomplish the impossible and retire before the bill gets passed back to them, they'll do just that. "They" are people too. "We" claim to love our grand kids, but expect someone else to BEHAVE like that's true. No different than any politician we hired to be the *us* we deny we are. I do not have it backwards. Denial has warped reality perception to where the afte
Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika
Pretty darn, Shepper! Jeff Shepler wrote: -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika
I'll tell you why. The decision was made back in the 70's to make sure our country had some for the future, and in the meantime, we decided to buy oil from the rest of the world. Deplete their reserves, which were much larger than ours. I have been out of touch with the industry for more than 20 years, so I have no idea about the current state of affairs. It was also decided we would use all those smarts to make more fuel efficient cars, furnaces, and decrease our consumption to improve our chances at survival in the case of a world war, with the reserves waiting for some future day's need. Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big problem before) when it is really just an ego trip, and putting our own desires before what I have seen as a national security issue for our grandkids. This was inevitable. kathryn On May 29, 2008, at 3:00 PM, wrote: The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to take a guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the ones we are going to blast next-Iran. Kurt Ode Coyote wrote: At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote: Ode, Please... I mean get real my friend. Nobody buys fluoridated water, it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government. Lead paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the governments job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on almost all fronts. ## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so that it CAN do that job. Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 gallons is plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your back] and can be bought elsewhere. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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You think it was all done in our best interest?? It was done in the elites best interest, they don't give a shit about any of us, that's why they're killing us off. They have technology that's also been surpressed that would eneable a big ol' SUV to go 300 miles on a single gallon of gas. So who's interests do they have in mind by keeping that a secret?? Kurt Clayton Family wrote: > I'll tell you why. The decision was made back in the 70's to make sure > our country had some for the future, and in the meantime, we decided to > buy oil from the rest of the world. Deplete their reserves, which were > much larger than ours. I have been out of touch with the industry for > more than 20 years, so I have no idea about the current state of > affairs. > > It was also decided we would use all those smarts to make more fuel > efficient cars, furnaces, and decrease our consumption to improve our > chances at survival in the case of a world war, with the reserves > waiting for some future day's need. > > Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas > guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big > problem before) when it is really just an ego trip, and putting our own > desires before what I have seen as a national security issue for our > grandkids. > > This was inevitable. > > kathryn > > On May 29, 2008, at 3:00 PM, wrote: > > > The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to > > realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they > > doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's > > the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, > > why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to take a > > guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the ones we > > are going to blast next-Iran. > > > > Kurt > > Ode Coyote wrote: > >> At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote: > >> > >>> Ode, > >>> > >>>Please... I mean get real my friend. Nobody buys fluoridated > >>> water, > >>> it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government. Lead > >>> paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of > >>> knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the > >>> governments > >>> job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on > >>> almost > >>> all fronts. > >> > >>## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so > >> that > >> it CAN do that job. > >> Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 > >> gallons is > >> plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your > >> back] > >> and can be bought elsewhere. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour >
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I agree with the libertarian pull your own damn ass up by your boot straps, and if you don't comprehend usury and it's enslavement ? It's for sure the banksters aren't going to fill you in. Henry Ford said the best invention in the world was 6% compound interest. I paid cash for my home and have been spending the interest I would have paid to some fat pencil pushing slob fixing it up and can say it was a good move. I do borrow money for cars unfortunately, 2 more years and we'll have her 2006 VW Beetle 1.9 diesel ( 50mpg) paid. I'd sell for what I paid HAHA ...I asked my brother way back (accountant works for Marathon) if gas was ever going down and he just laughed evilly and said probably not. They are investing billions up in the ND huge oil field w/new horizontal drilling techniques. Shep I'll tell you why. The decision was made back in the 70's to make sure our country had some for the future, and in the meantime, we decided to buy oil from the rest of the world. Deplete their reserves, which were much larger than ours. I have been out of touch with the industry for more than 20 years, so I have no idea about the current state of affairs. It was also decided we would use all those smarts to make more fuel efficient cars, furnaces, and decrease our consumption to improve our chances at survival in the case of a world war, with the reserves waiting for some future day's need. Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big problem before) when it is really just an ego trip, and putting our own desires before what I have seen as a national security issue for our grandkids. This was inevitable. kathryn On May 29, 2008, at 3:00 PM, wrote: The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to take a guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the ones we are going to blast next-Iran. Kurt Ode Coyote wrote: At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote: Ode, Please... I mean get real my friend. Nobody buys fluoridated water, it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government. Lead paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the governments job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on almost all fronts. ## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so that it CAN do that job. Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 gallons is plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your back] and can be bought elsewhere. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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What does this message have to do with CS anyway? I am really tired of this discussion. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Shepler" To: Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:59 PM Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika I agree with the libertarian pull your own damn ass up by your boot straps, and if you don't comprehend usury and it's enslavement ? It's for sure the banksters aren't going to fill you in. Henry Ford said the best invention in the world was 6% compound interest. I paid cash for my home and have been spending the interest I would have paid to some fat pencil pushing slob fixing it up and can say it was a good move. I do borrow money for cars unfortunately, 2 more years and we'll have her 2006 VW Beetle 1.9 diesel ( 50mpg) paid. I'd sell for what I paid HAHA ...I asked my brother way back (accountant works for Marathon) if gas was ever going down and he just laughed evilly and said probably not. They are investing billions up in the ND huge oil field w/new horizontal drilling techniques. Shep I'll tell you why. The decision was made back in the 70's to make sure our country had some for the future, and in the meantime, we decided to buy oil from the rest of the world. Deplete their reserves, which were much larger than ours. I have been out of touch with the industry for more than 20 years, so I have no idea about the current state of affairs. It was also decided we would use all those smarts to make more fuel efficient cars, furnaces, and decrease our consumption to improve our chances at survival in the case of a world war, with the reserves waiting for some future day's need. Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big problem before) when it is really just an ego trip, and putting our own desires before what I have seen as a national security issue for our grandkids. This was inevitable. kathryn On May 29, 2008, at 3:00 PM, wrote: The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to take a guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the ones we are going to blast next-Iran. Kurt Ode Coyote wrote: At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote: Ode, Please... I mean get real my friend. Nobody buys fluoridated water, it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government. Lead paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the governments job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on almost all fronts. ## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so that it CAN do that job. Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 gallons is plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your back] and can be bought elsewhere. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Sorry I'm new, don't want to step on any toes here, the discussion was intriguing for me, although off topic. The genius of the chemical lobotomizing is the almost complete control with no self realization. It was one of the best attacks on the zombie slave system I've seen. This system is why we have to go underground to discuss CS etc. Now do you see grasshopper? I have a silver puppy, BTW..Shepdog and his silver puppy hahahahah What does this message have to do with CS anyway? I am really tired of this discussion. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Shepler" To: Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:59 PM Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika I agree with the libertarian pull your own damn ass up by your boot straps, and if you don't comprehend usury and it's enslavement ? It's for sure the banksters aren't going to fill you in. Henry Ford said the best invention in the world was 6% compound interest. I paid cash for my home and have been spending the interest I would have paid to some fat pencil pushing slob fixing it up and can say it was a good move. I do borrow money for cars unfortunately, 2 more years and we'll have her 2006 VW Beetle 1.9 diesel ( 50mpg) paid. I'd sell for what I paid HAHA ...I asked my brother way back (accountant works for Marathon) if gas was ever going down and he just laughed evilly and said probably not. They are investing billions up in the ND huge oil field w/new horizontal drilling techniques. Shep I'll tell you why. The decision was made back in the 70's to make sure our country had some for the future, and in the meantime, we decided to buy oil from the rest of the world. Deplete their reserves, which were much larger than ours. I have been out of touch with the industry for more than 20 years, so I have no idea about the current state of affairs. It was also decided we would use all those smarts to make more fuel efficient cars, furnaces, and decrease our consumption to improve our chances at survival in the case of a world war, with the reserves waiting for some future day's need. Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big problem before) when it is really just an ego trip, and putting our own desires before what I have seen as a national security issue for our grandkids. This was inevitable. kathryn On May 29, 2008, at 3:00 PM, wrote: The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to take a guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the ones we are going to blast next-Iran. Kurt Ode Coyote wrote: At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote: Ode, Please... I mean get real my friend. Nobody buys fluoridated water, it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government. Lead paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the governments job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on almost all fronts. ## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so that it CAN do that job. Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 gallons is plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your back] and can be bought elsewhere. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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...this is pretty far from "underground" actually. > -Original Message- > This system is why we have to go underground to discuss CS etc. Now do > you see grasshopper? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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bob Larson wrote: ...this is pretty far from "underground" actually. "didgital alternitive undergroung"??? geez -Original Message- This system is why we have to go underground to discuss CS etc. Now do you see grasshopper? -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Yeah, be careful here Shep, there are a few english teachers around. :) marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: > > > > -- Original message from Jeff Shepler : > -- > > "didgital alternitive undergroung"??? geez > > Did you mean *digital alternative underground*? Pretty funny, > considering the topic. MA > > > > > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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But didn't America *always* have huge cars? In the seventies, I had a Chevrolet Camarro, a Dodge van, and a Mach 1 Mustang, and my son had a Dodge Challenger; all huge and from America and all massively gas guzzling. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Clayton Family Date: 05/29/08 22:25:27 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas Guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big Problem before) when it is really just an ego trip, and putting our own Desires before what I have seen as a national security issue for our Grandkids. This was inevitable. Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Then I guess you had some too. Faith g. - Original Message - From: "Dee " To: Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:09 AM Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika But didn't America *always* have huge cars? In the seventies, I had a Chevrolet Camarro, a Dodge van, and a Mach 1 Mustang, and my son had a Dodge Challenger; all huge and from America and all massively gas guzzling. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Clayton Family Date: 05/29/08 22:25:27 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas Guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big Problem before) when it is really just an ego trip, and putting our own Desires before what I have seen as a national security issue for our Grandkids. This was inevitable. Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Some of us drove a VW microbus -- JudyDownMaine -Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika But didn't America *always* have huge cars? In the seventies, I had a Chevrolet Camarro, a Dodge van, and a Mach 1 Mustang, and my son had a Dodge Challenger; all huge and from America and all massively gas guzzling. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Clayton Family Date: 05/29/08 22:25:27 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas Guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big Problem before) when it is really just an ego trip, and putting our own Desires before what I have seen as a national security issue for our Grandkids. This was inevitable. Kathryn -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1474 - Release Date: 05/30/2008 7:44 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1474 - Release Date: 05/30/2008 7:44 AM
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No we didn't (apart from RRS which ordinary people would not have owned) which is why we bought them from America; being into the whole 'muscle car' scene. This was in the days of romance when PC and the whole green thing wasn't thought of. At least, not by the masses. Dee ---Original Message--- From: Faith Gagne Date: 30/05/2008 15:49:35 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika Then I guess you had some too. Faith g.
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On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 4:43 PM, Dee wrote: >. This was in the days of romance when PC and the whole green thing > wasn't thought of. At least, not by the masses. Dee > I guess I've always been a bit of an eco freak. I don't drive at all - never did. cheers Kirsteen > > > ** > > >
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I've always loved driving and always loved cars; since I was a little girl. We had the use of a car when no-one else of our station did, so I suppose this is where the love affair started. I quite honestly would rather be dead than unable to drive, extreme as this sounds, I love speed that's all. Not PC I'm afraid. Dee ---Original Message--- I guess I've always been a bit of an eco freak. I don't drive at all - never did. cheers Kirsteen
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I'm with you on the speed thingie! I've always been a speed freak. Had a GTI once that would do 120 top speed, used to make record setting trips from New York to Vermont. Dee wrote: > I've always loved driving and always loved cars; since I was a little girl. > We had the use of a car when no-one else of our station did, so I suppose > this is where the love affair started. I quite honestly would rather be > dead than unable to drive, extreme as this sounds, I love speed that's all. > Not PC I'm afraid. Dee > > > > ---Original Message--- > > > > > > I guess I've always been a bit of an eco freak. I don't drive at all - never > did. > > > > cheers > > Kirsteen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Right..and gone there. Ode At 05:42 AM 5/30/2008 +0930, you wrote: Just a reminder...we do have an off topic list! Hanneke At 05:30 AM 30/05/2008, you wrote: The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to take a guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the ones we are going to blast next-Iran. Kurt -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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and some of us drove mazdas, hondas, datsuns, and toyotas. On May 30, 2008, at 10:39 AM, Judy K wrote: Some of us drove a VW microbus -- JudyDownMaine -Original Message- From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika But didn't America *always* have huge cars? In the seventies, I had a Chevrolet Camarro, a Dodge van, and a Mach 1 Mustang, and my son had a Dodge Challenger; all huge and from America and all massively gas guzzling. Dee -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Shep is about intelligent independence through inquisitiveness and progressive learning that allows side stepping the rules. Making your own CS is one of those side steps that a total drone would never attempt. When people give responsibility to others, they automatically give those others the need to rule, then complain when they do. If you have to borrow money, no, you can't afford it. Planning behind? Ode At 11:07 PM 5/29/2008 -0400, you wrote: Sorry I'm new, don't want to step on any toes here, the discussion was intriguing for me, although off topic. The genius of the chemical lobotomizing is the almost complete control with no self realization. It was one of the best attacks on the zombie slave system I've seen. This system is why we have to go underground to discuss CS etc. Now do you see grasshopper? I have a silver puppy, BTW..Shepdog and his silver puppy hahahahah What does this message have to do with CS anyway? I am really tired of this discussion. Faith G. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Shepler" To: Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:59 PM Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika I agree with the libertarian pull your own damn ass up by your boot straps, and if you don't comprehend usury and it's enslavement ? It's for sure the banksters aren't going to fill you in. Henry Ford said the best invention in the world was 6% compound interest. I paid cash for my home and have been spending the interest I would have paid to some fat pencil pushing slob fixing it up and can say it was a good move. I do borrow money for cars unfortunately, 2 more years and we'll have her 2006 VW Beetle 1.9 diesel ( 50mpg) paid. I'd sell for what I paid HAHA ...I asked my brother way back (accountant works for Marathon) if gas was ever going down and he just laughed evilly and said probably not. They are investing billions up in the ND huge oil field w/new horizontal drilling techniques. Shep I'll tell you why. The decision was made back in the 70's to make sure our country had some for the future, and in the meantime, we decided to buy oil from the rest of the world. Deplete their reserves, which were much larger than ours. I have been out of touch with the industry for more than 20 years, so I have no idea about the current state of affairs. It was also decided we would use all those smarts to make more fuel efficient cars, furnaces, and decrease our consumption to improve our chances at survival in the case of a world war, with the reserves waiting for some future day's need. Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big problem before) when it is really just an ego trip, and putting our own desires before what I have seen as a national security issue for our grandkids. This was inevitable. kathryn On May 29, 2008, at 3:00 PM, wrote: The government is 3 steps ahead of us, not 3 steps behind. You have to realize who the government is, they don't get elected. What are they doing with all that oil up in Alaska, that we'll never see??? That's the 4th largest oil deposit in the world and it's just sitting there, why? The largest is in Suadi, second largest is Iraq. Want to take a guess at where the 3rd largest oil deposit is?? You know, the ones we are going to blast next-Iran. Kurt Ode Coyote wrote: At 09:56 PM 5/27/2008 -0700, you wrote: Ode, Please... I mean get real my friend. Nobody buys fluoridated water, it was mandated by criminal elements within our own government. Lead paint was illegal BEFORE the recent recalls. Consumers had no way of knowing there was lead in the paint on their kids toys... the governments job it to PROTECT the consumer, and they have failed miserably on almost all fronts. ## The public has failed to fund the consumer protection agency so that it CAN do that job. Water consumption averages around 40 gallons per person, but 2 gallons is plenty [especially when you pack it up a hill from the spring on your back] and can be bought elsewhere. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 3:36 PM -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.24.1/1463 - Release Date: 5/23/2008 -- No virus found in this o
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Great! I hit that in my Subaru the other day (shh!) fantastic car like the Golf! Dee ---Original Message--- From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com Date: 30/05/2008 17:33:27 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Dee Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika I'm with you on the speed thingie! I've always been a speed freak. Had a GTI once that would do 120 top speed, used to make record setting trips from New York to Vermont.
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My moms' one too, sister PHD fluent German among many others Yeah, be careful here Shep, there are a few english teachers around. :) marmar...@bellsouth.net wrote: -- Original message from Jeff Shepler : -- "didgital alternitive undergroung"??? geez Did you mean *digital alternative underground*? Pretty funny, considering the topic. MA -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Doesn't this belong on the "off topic" list? Cathy --- On Fri, 5/30/08, Dee <d...@deetroy.org> wrote: From: Dee <d...@deetroy.org> Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Friday, May 30, 2008, 9:03 AM #yiv1198872133 v\:* { } #yiv1198872133 v\:* { } I've always loved driving and always loved cars; since I was a little girl. We had the use of a car when no-one else of our station did, so I suppose this is where the love affair started. I quite honestly would rather be dead than unable to drive, extreme as this sounds, I love speed that's all. Not PC I'm afraid. Dee ---Original Message--- I guess I've always been a bit of an eco freak. I don't drive at all - never did. cheers Kirsteen
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I drive a jeep now, so I can't drive that fast, 80 tops. A year ago was out in montana, rented a charger. The thing flew, was doing 100 as an average speed. Montana is a great place to fly! Drove for 2 hours on the highway and saw about 4 other cars. Dee wrote: > Great! I hit that in my Subaru the other day (shh!) fantastic car like the > Golf! Dee > > > > ---Original Message--- > > > > From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com > > Date: 30/05/2008 17:33:27 > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Cc: Dee > > Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika > > > > I'm with you on the speed thingie! I've always been a speed freak. Had a GTI > once that would do 120 top speed, used to make record setting trips from New > York to Vermont. > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Those were the days. I once drove a carload of golfing buddies from Kingsport, Tn. to Miami in a 1984 BMW 718 in 10 hours total-- you do the math--- Those who would give up a little Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety-- Benjamin Franklin, 1755 - Original Message - From: To: Cc: "Dee" Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 12:33 PM Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika I'm with you on the speed thingie! I've always been a speed freak. Had a GTI once that would do 120 top speed, used to make record setting trips from New York to Vermont. Dee wrote: I've always loved driving and always loved cars; since I was a little girl. We had the use of a car when no-one else of our station did, so I suppose this is where the love affair started. I quite honestly would rather be dead than unable to drive, extreme as this sounds, I love speed that's all. Not PC I'm afraid. Dee ---Original Message--- I guess I've always been a bit of an eco freak. I don't drive at all - never did. cheers Kirsteen -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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On May 30, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Dee wrote: I've always loved driving and always loved cars; since I was a little girl. We had the use of a car when no-one else of our station did, so I suppose this is where the love affair started. I quite honestly would rather be dead than unable to drive, extreme as this sounds, I love speed that's all. Not PC I'm afraid. Dee I prefer bicycles but sadly live in an area with no shoulders and steep hills and haven't ridden much for a long time. I would like to have a recumbent tricycle if I lived where I could use one. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika
Why is this still on the CS list? It belongs off-topic Judy Down Maine -Original Message- From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 8:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika On May 30, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Dee wrote: > I've always loved driving and always loved cars; since I was a little > girl. We had the use of a car when no-one else of our station did, so > I suppose this is where the love affair started. I quite honestly > would rather be dead than unable to drive, extreme as this sounds, I > love speed that's all. Not PC I'm afraid. Dee > I prefer bicycles but sadly live in an area with no shoulders and steep hills and haven't ridden much for a long time. I would like to have a recumbent tricycle if I lived where I could use one. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1475 - Release Date: 05/30/2008 2:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1475 - Release Date: 05/30/2008 2:53 PM
Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika
We're all too lazy to change the heading . Those who would give up a little Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety-- Benjamin Franklin, 1755 - Original Message - From: "Judy K" To: Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 9:16 AM Subject: RE: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika Why is this still on the CS list? It belongs off-topic Judy Down Maine -Original Message- From: Tad Winiecki [mailto:winie...@pacifier.com] Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 8:09 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika On May 30, 2008, at 9:03 AM, Dee wrote: I've always loved driving and always loved cars; since I was a little girl. We had the use of a car when no-one else of our station did, so I suppose this is where the love affair started. I quite honestly would rather be dead than unable to drive, extreme as this sounds, I love speed that's all. Not PC I'm afraid. Dee I prefer bicycles but sadly live in an area with no shoulders and steep hills and haven't ridden much for a long time. I would like to have a recumbent tricycle if I lived where I could use one. Nancy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1475 - Release Date: 05/30/2008 2:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1475 - Release Date: 05/30/2008 2:53 PM
Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika
Speak for yorself. Faith g. - Original Message - From: "T. J. Garland" To: Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 9:28 AM Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika We're all too lazy to change the heading . Those who would give up a little Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety-- Benjamin Franklin, 1755 - Original Message - From: "Judy K" To: Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 9:16 AM Subject: RE: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika Why is this still on the CS list? It belongs off-topic Judy Down Maine -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika or sumpthin' lik dat
In 1964 my family drove a VW microbus from India to Holland. It still had the smaller engine at that time. Going up the Khyber pass, a fellow on a 10 speed bicycle passed us. Can't make that trip now... Dan > -Original Message- > From: Judy K [mailto:judydownma...@roadrunner.com] > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:40 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: RE: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika > > Some of us drove a VW microbus -- > JudyDownMaine > > -Original Message- > From: Dee [mailto:d...@deetroy.org] > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:09 AM > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika > > > But didn't America *always* have huge cars? In the seventies, > I had a Chevrolet Camarro, a Dodge van, and a Mach 1 Mustang, > and my son had a Dodge Challenger; all huge and from America > and all massively gas guzzling. Dee > > > > ---Original Message--- > > > > From: Clayton Family > > Date: 05/29/08 22:25:27 > > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Subject: Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika > > > > Ode is correct about how insane it is for people to drive those gas > > Guzzling SUV's in the name of safety (big joke, it was not a big > > Problem before) when it is really just an ego trip, and > putting our own > > Desires before what I have seen as a national security issue for our > > Grandkids. > > > > This was inevitable. > > > > Kathryn > > > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1474 - Release > Date: 05/30/2008 > 7:44 AM > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1474 - Release > Date: 05/30/2008 > 7:44 AM > >
Re: CS>Chemical Dumbing Down of Amerika or sumpthin' lik dat
That made me laugh. In high school a group of us used to like backpacking in the Sierras, and used to go up the mountains in an old Vw microbus- we got passed by nearly everyone. The small cars got good mileage, but did not go uphill fast for very long. On May 30, 2008, at 12:17 PM, Dan Nave wrote: In 1964 my family drove a VW microbus from India to Holland. It still had the smaller engine at that time. Going up the Khyber pass, a fellow on a 10 speed bicycle passed us. Can't make that trip now... Dan -Original Message- From: Judy K [mailto:judydownma...@roadrunner.com] Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:40 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Some of us drove a VW microbus -- JudyDownMaine -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour