Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[James Osbourne Holmes]

Is colloidal gold being successfully used to treat RA?
Hi Mike, et allong time no see.

James Osbourne Holmes
a/k/a *Red Pill Media*
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On Mon, Jun 17, 2019 at 11:00 AM Jean Baugh 
wrote:

> lia
>
> On Jun 17, 2019, at 12:20 AM, Dan Nave  wrote:
>
> Rheumatoid Arthritis
>
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 7:33 PM Deborah Gerard 
> wrote:
>
>> RA=Arthritis...people use the abbreviation quit a lot for it.
>>
>> On Monday, June 10, 2019, 03:24:47 AM EDT, Phil Morrison <
>> philmorrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> To: Deb Gerard
>>
>> RA ... radioactivity?
>>
>> Ref please.
>>
>>
>

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Jean Baugh]

lia

> On Jun 17, 2019, at 12:20 AM, Dan Nave  wrote:
> 
> Rheumatoid Arthritis  
> 
> On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 7:33 PM Deborah Gerard  > wrote:
> RA=Arthritis...people use the abbreviation quit a lot for it.
> 
> On Monday, June 10, 2019, 03:24:47 AM EDT, Phil Morrison 
> mailto:philmorrison...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> To: Deb Gerard
> 
> RA ... radioactivity?
> 
> Ref please. 
> 

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Dan Nave]

Rheumatoid Arthritis

On Sat, Jun 15, 2019 at 7:33 PM Deborah Gerard  wrote:

> RA=Arthritis...people use the abbreviation quit a lot for it.
>
> On Monday, June 10, 2019, 03:24:47 AM EDT, Phil Morrison <
> philmorrison...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> To: Deb Gerard
>
> RA ... radioactivity?
>
> Ref please.
>
>

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Deborah Gerard]

 RA=Arthritis...people use the abbreviation quit a lot for it.
On Monday, June 10, 2019, 03:24:47 AM EDT, Phil Morrison 
 wrote:  
 
 To: Deb Gerard
RA ... radioactivity?
Ref please. 

  

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Deborah Gerard]

 Doesn't colloidal gold go after RA?
On Monday, June 10, 2019, 12:54:12 AM EDT, Phil Morrison 
 wrote:  
 
 Colloidal silver is a natural pathogen killer.  Colloidal gold is not.

Why are we flogging colloidal gold on a CS Forum?

The are many handy ways to use hydrogen peroxide, see below.

https://wakeup-world.com/2012/07/09/27-amazing-benefits-and-uses-for-hydrogen-peroxide/
  

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[David Bearrow]

Hello Jean,
I am by no means an expert nor am I qualified to give medical advice. If you go 
to the link in my last email it addresses your colloidal gold questions.
If I had a dental injury that was infected and leaking puss I would make a 
strong  batch of colloidal silver(10 to 30 ppm) and mix it 10 to 1 with some 
DMSO. I would then soak a cotton ball with the solution and attempt to keep it 
on the infected spot as long as I was able. I would do this 3 times a day for 
at least 5 minutes for 2 weeks.The DMSO has the ability to drive the silver 
into the tissue. This is what I would do (have done in the past) for myself.

best regards,
David Bearrow chip...@verizon.net(Sent from my cellphone)
 On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi David, Several questions please.
Which colloidal gold machine is best for a novice, but good?  How much is it?
I have a niece who had a root canal on one of her front teeth many years ago 
and now it is leaking pus and giving her migraine headaches.  Is there anything 
that would stop the infection?
Thank you,
Jean



On Jun 9, 2019, at 1:53 PM, David Bearrow  wrote:
It takes high voltage to make safe quality colloidal gold. Your cs generator is 
not powerful enough to do gold. You need a high voltage arc to produce it.
http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidal-gold.html

best regards,
David Bearrow chip...@verizon.net(Sent from my cellphone)
 On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi,
I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap them with the 
silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.
Jean


On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick  wrote:
 

I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps steel 
wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the silver ones, 
and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the coins.

I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for an 
experiment.

Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to their 
smaller surface area.
 
 On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
  
 
 
This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden wires, to 
connect to the generator?
 
 
  How about platinum?  Why not? 
  Jean 
  ***
 

  

All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or .999 
fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so expensive I'd use 
smaller ones like 1/10 oz.
 
 On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
  
 
 Hi Folks,  
  There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to 
get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person  was and how I 
might get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product. 
  Thanks much in advance, 
  Debbie  
 

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Douglas Haack]

 Go the archives and search "Colloidal Gold". I've been a member since 1997...
Bob Berger "Ole bob" made some, he passed on some 10 years ago

In SILvation,
Douglas H -- in Oz

   
 
On Monday, 10 June 2019, 11:43:37 am AEST, Jim  wrote:  
 
 
One such person accepted payment quickly, but was nearly impossible to get him 
to return either money or product. 

  

From: Deborah Gerard  
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 2:55 PM
To: Silverlist Post 
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold

  

Hi Folks, 

  

There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to get 
it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and how I might 
get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product.

  

Thanks much in advance,

  

Debbie


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Jim]

One such person accepted payment quickly, but was nearly impossible to get him 
to return either money or product.



From: Deborah Gerard 
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 2:55 PM
To: Silverlist Post 
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold



Hi Folks,



There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to get 
it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and how I might 
get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product.



Thanks much in advance,



Debbie



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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Jean Baugh]

Hi David,
 
Several questions please.

Which colloidal gold machine is best for a novice, but good?  How much is it?

I have a niece who had a root canal on one of her front teeth many years ago 
and now it is leaking pus and giving her migraine headaches.  Is there anything 
that would stop the infection?

Thank you,

Jean




> On Jun 9, 2019, at 1:53 PM, David Bearrow  wrote:
> 
> It takes high voltage to make safe quality colloidal gold. Your cs generator 
> is not powerful enough to do gold. You need a high voltage arc to produce it.
> 
> http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidal-gold.html 
> 
> 
> best regards,
> 
> David Bearrow 
> chip...@verizon.net
> (Sent from my cellphone)
> 
> On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap them with 
> the silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.
> 
> Jean
> 
> 
>> On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick > > wrote:
>> 
> 
> I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps 
> steel wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the silver 
> ones, and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the coins.
> 
> I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for an 
> experiment.
> 
> Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to their 
> smaller surface area.
> On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
> 
>> This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden wires, 
>> to connect to the generator?
> 
> How about platinum?  Why not?
> 
> Jean
> 
> ***
>> 
> 
> All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or .999 
> fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so expensive I'd 
> use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.
> On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks, 
> 
> There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to 
> get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and how I 
> might get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product.
> 
> Thanks much in advance,
> 
> Debbie
> 
> 

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Airwick]

Hi David,

Interesting.

Thanks... Eric

On 6/9/2019 11:53 AM, David Bearrow wrote:
It takes high voltage to make safe quality colloidal gold. Your cs 
generator is not powerful enough to do gold. You need a high voltage 
arc to produce it.


http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidal-gold.html

best regards,

David Bearrow
chip...@verizon.net
(Sent from my cellphone)

On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi,

I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap
them with the silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.

Jean



On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick mailto:nazfl...@northlink.com>> wrote:


I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed,
perhaps steel wires of the the appropriate gauge might be
substituted for the silver ones, and alligator clips could be
attached to them to grasp the coins.

I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold
coins for an experiment.

Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due
to their smaller surface area.

On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:

This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell
golden wires, to connect to the generator?


How about platinum?  Why not?

Jean

***



All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of
. or .999 fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since
gold is so expensive I'd use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.

On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
Hi Folks,

There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and
I use to get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that
person was and how I might get in contact with him? In need of
getting some of the product.

Thanks much in advance,

Debbie

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[David Bearrow]

It takes high voltage to make safe quality colloidal gold. Your cs generator is 
not powerful enough to do gold. You need a high voltage arc to produce it.
http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidal-gold.html

best regards,
David Bearrow chip...@verizon.net(Sent from my cellphone)
 On Sunday, June 9, 2019, Jean Baugh  wrote:

Hi,
I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap them with the 
silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.
Jean


On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick  wrote:
 

I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps steel 
wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the silver ones, 
and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the coins.

I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for an 
experiment.

Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to their 
smaller surface area.
 
 On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
  
 
 
This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden wires, to 
connect to the generator?
 
 
  How about platinum?  Why not? 
  Jean 
  ***
 

  

All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or .999 
fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so expensive I'd use 
smaller ones like 1/10 oz.
 
 On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
  
 
 Hi Folks,  
  There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to 
get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person  was and how I 
might get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the product. 
  Thanks much in advance, 
  Debbie  
 

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Jean Baugh]

Hi,

I would be willing to buy a couple of1/10 oz gold coins and wrap them with the 
silver strip ends.  Just out of curiosity.

Jean


> On Jun 9, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Airwick  wrote:
> 
> I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps 
> steel wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the silver 
> ones, and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the coins.
> 
> I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for an 
> experiment.
> 
> Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to their 
> smaller surface area.
> On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
>>> This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden wires, 
>>> to connect to the generator?
>> 
>> How about platinum?  Why not?
>> 
>> Jean
>> 
>> ***
>>> 
>>> All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or .999 
>>> fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so expensive I'd 
>>> use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.
>>> On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:
 Hi Folks, 
 
 There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I use to 
 get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person was and 
 how I might get in contact with him? In need of getting some of the 
 product.
 
 Thanks much in advance,
 
 Debbie
>> 

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Airwick]

I'm thinking that depending on how the generator is constructed, perhaps 
steel wires of the the appropriate gauge might be substituted for the 
silver ones, and alligator clips could be attached to them to grasp the 
coins.


I'd try it myself, but I don't want to waste a couple of gold coins for 
an experiment.


Small ones would work but the process would likely take longer due to 
their smaller surface area.


On 6/8/2019 5:27 PM, Jean Baugh wrote:
This is an interesting idea.  Then surely someone could sell golden 
wires, to connect to the generator?


How about platinum?  Why not?

Jean

***


All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . 
or .999 fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so 
expensive I'd use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.


On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

Hi Folks,

There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I 
use to get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that 
person was and how I might get in contact with him? In need of 
getting some of the product.


Thanks much in advance,

Debbie

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Airwick]

All one needs is a colloidal silver generator and a couple of . or 
.999 fine gold coins and you can make your own.  Since gold is so 
expensive I'd use smaller ones like 1/10 oz.


On 6/8/2019 3:55 PM, Deborah Gerard wrote:

Hi Folks,

There use to be a person who made colloidal gold on this list and I 
use to get it from him years ago. Does anyone remember who that person 
was and how I might get in contact with him? In need of getting some 
of the product.


Thanks much in advance,

Debbie

RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Ode Coyote]

 Using a DC output, the silver will plate out.

  I think maybe "white gold" electrodes would be the best bet...and 
"piggyback" gold off the electrodes as the silver ionizes the alloys 
lattice structure away.
There are several alloys that qualify, so make sure to get the one that's 
only silver and gold, although a bit of copper probably won't hurt 
anything...but might shorten the shelf life.


The other guy uses baking soda as the electrolyte.
 I'm not seeing much reference to gold carbonate.

Ode



At 10:34 AM 10/9/2008 -0500, you wrote:

Thanks Ode,
Not much to find on the net relative to gold acetate but it probably
isn't something you want whether it is toxic or not since it may make
some portion of the gold inactive.  Do you think using CS would work ok
as a starter? Would it just plate out on one electrode?
Thanks,
Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:20 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold

This is the html version of the file
<http://www.espimetals.com/msds%27s/goldacetate.pdf>http://www.espimetal
s.com/msds's/goldacetate.pdf.
Google automatically generates html versions of documents as we crawl
the web.
Page 1
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
I
PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
Trade Name:
Gold III Acetate
Synonyms:
None Known
Chemical Nature:
Gold Compound
Chemical Family:
Organometallic
Formula:
Au(O2CCH3)3
PHYSICAL DATA

Solubility in Water:
Slight
Appearance and Odor:
Brown powder, vinegar like odor

At 06:24 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
>vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
>starters for CG like there is with CS?
>  - Steve N
>
>http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Dee]

I think its good for things like arthritis.  dee

Smitty wrote:

colloidal gold . . . . . .



Are there advantages of colloidal gold over silver ?
Just wonderin' after  a lot of coll.gold discussion  on this list.

Smitty


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[cking001]

I have one, (Ovo) but I haven't used it yet.
I sometimes buy such things to have "just in case" and before they
disappear from the market.

Really, colloidal silver has fulfilled all my needs for health
maintenance.

Chuck
Statistically speaking, I am just a standard deviate.


On 10/9/2008 5:19:10 PM, Pat (pattycake29...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> That's too bad about Karl.  He seems so nice online.  He maybe got way over 
> his head and then financial and personal problems have overtaken his good 
> intentions.  I'd
> ordered a bottle of colloidal gold about 3 years ago and got it promptly.
> Does anyone know someone who has received an Ovo and if it does make
> colloidal gold?
> 
> Pat
> 
> Thanks to all for the warnings. Here is the link mentioned below (I
> think)
> 
> http://www.colloidalgold.info/
> 
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Smitty]

>  Colloidal gold is different from CS. CG is for pain (joint, arthritis,
>  fibromyalgia, etc) and studies have shown that it increases IQ.
>   - Steve

Thanks for the info. I like the IQ idea !

Smitty


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Norton, Steve]

Colloidal gold is different from CS. CG is for pain (joint, arthritis,
fibromyalgia, etc) and studies have shown that it increases IQ.
 - Steve

-Original Message-
From: Smitty [mailto:papad...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 2:52 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

>colloidal gold . . . . . .

Are there advantages of colloidal gold over silver ?
Just wonderin' after  a lot of coll.gold discussion  on this list.

Smitty



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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Smitty]

>colloidal gold . . . . . .

Are there advantages of colloidal gold over silver ?
Just wonderin' after  a lot of coll.gold discussion  on this list.

Smitty


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Pat]

That's too bad about Karl.  He seems so nice online.  He maybe got way over his 
head and then financial and personal problems have overtaken his good 
intentions.  I'd ordered a bottle of colloidal gold about 3 years ago and got 
it promptly.  Does anyone know someone who has received an Ovo and if it does 
make colloidal gold?


Pat

Thanks to all for the warnings. Here is the link mentioned below (I
think)

http://www.colloidalgold.info/


  


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

Thanks Ode,
Not much to find on the net relative to gold acetate but it probably
isn't something you want whether it is toxic or not since it may make
some portion of the gold inactive.  Do you think using CS would work ok
as a starter? Would it just plate out on one electrode? 
Thanks,
Steve N

-Original Message-
From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@alltel.net] 
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:20 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold

This is the html version of the file
<http://www.espimetals.com/msds%27s/goldacetate.pdf>http://www.espimetal
s.com/msds's/goldacetate.pdf.
Google automatically generates html versions of documents as we crawl
the web.
Page 1
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
I
PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
Trade Name:
Gold III Acetate
Synonyms:
None Known
Chemical Nature:
Gold Compound
Chemical Family:
Organometallic
Formula:
Au(O2CCH3)3
PHYSICAL DATA

Solubility in Water:
Slight
Appearance and Odor:
Brown powder, vinegar like odor

At 06:24 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses 
>vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with 
>starters for CG like there is with CS?
>  - Steve N
>
>http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Ode Coyote]

  I have been unable to make ionic copper with just water..ionic gold may 
also be like that.


ode



At 06:41 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:


Also, are there "ionic gold" issues?
Thanks,
Steve N

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From: Norton, Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wed Oct 08 18:24:09 2008
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold


Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
starters for CG like there is with CS?
 - Steve N

http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Ode Coyote]

This is the html version of the file 
http://www.espimetals.com/msds's/goldacetate.pdf.

Google automatically generates html versions of documents as we crawl the web.
Page 1
MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
I
PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
Trade Name:
Gold III Acetate
Synonyms:
None Known
Chemical Nature:
Gold Compound
Chemical Family:
Organometallic
Formula:
Au(O2CCH3)3
PHYSICAL DATA

Solubility in Water:
Slight
Appearance and Odor:
Brown powder, vinegar like odor

At 06:24 PM 10/8/2008 -0500, you wrote:


Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
starters for CG like there is with CS?
 - Steve N

http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

Also, are there "ionic gold" issues?
Thanks,
Steve N

- Original Message -
From: Norton, Steve 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wed Oct 08 18:24:09 2008
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold

 
Here is a plan for an LVDC colloidal gold generator (50 VDC). It uses
vinegar as a starter for the first batch. Are there any issues with
starters for CG like there is with CS?
 - Steve N

http://www.huldaclarkzappers.com/colloidal_gold_machine.html


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[Norton, Steve]

Thanks to all for the warnings. Here is the link mentioned below (I
think)

http://www.colloidalgold.info/

 - Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: bob Larson [mailto:bobl...@cablespeed.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:21 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

i've noticed others with the same problem.
legal action is appropriate and needed.  cooperation with other victims
would probably be needed to get any significant response from
authorities.
someone recently posted a link to a website set up to flag this
operation...
maybe it includes a way to get other victims together?

> -Original Message-
> From: David O'Neil [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:02 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)
>
>
> >>
>
>
> Thats an interesting site but unfortunately Karl is a crook. I paid a 
> lot of money for one of his machines a few years ago but I'm still 
> waiting. I'm not the only one. There has been complaints about him on 
> other groups too.  Do not send him any money!
>
>
> David
>
>


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)

[bob Larson]

i've noticed others with the same problem.
legal action is appropriate and needed.  cooperation with other victims
would probably be needed to get any significant response from authorities.
someone recently posted a link to a website set up to flag this operation...
maybe it includes a way to get other victims together?

> -Original Message-
> From: David O'Neil [mailto:da...@alchemysa.com.au]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 9:02 AM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Colloidal gold (Warning)
>
>
> >>
>
>
> Thats an interesting site but unfortunately Karl is a crook. I paid a
> lot of money for one of his machines a few years ago but I'm still
> waiting. I'm not the only one. There has been complaints about him on
> other groups too.  Do not send him any money!
>
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > From: cking...@nycap.rr.com
> > Date: 24 September 2008 8:01:15 AM
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold
> >
> >
> > Start here:
> > http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> > i think you know about Karl's site?
> > http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Sales/Sales1.html
> > i don't know if it's still there, but there used to be a pretty
> > nice set
> > of pics and plans for building one.  MOT + variac + even an automatic
> > arc gap adjuster.
> >
> > and wasn't this (now dead site) with all the pics of a CG system and
> > produced product you steve norton?  http://www.biochi.com/
> > process_3.htm
> >
> > bobL
> >
> >>
>
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Dee]

the trouble with Vit D supplementation is, that it 'can' be overloaded 
and that can cause severe problems so it should be approached with 
caution.  Mercola suggests being tested for it first.  dee


B Magnatta wrote:









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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Dee]

I think herpes could also be the cause because when I had shingles, I 
took copious amounts of CS plus lysine and it went in a week.  After 
that whenever I get the awful burning and 'stabbing' pains which used to 
be the start, I would start this regime and it would go.  Another thing 
for this (if it is herpes) could be aerobic oxygen which I am also 
taking for fatique, and it seems to be working fine.  I have read that 
there is thought that one or other of the herpes viruses may be at the 
root of a lot of nerve related diseases, and even maybe, cancer. dee


bob Larson wrote:

fibromyalgia is prominent among the symptoms of active chronic hep-c
infection, so that should be ruled out.  CS manages mine = no more fibro
there are other possible causes (that i don't recall) that should also be
ruled out or dealt with.


  




<>
Thanks,
Steve N




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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

I'll ask. 
Thanks for the idea.
 - Steve N

- Original Message -
From: B Magnatta 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Tue Sep 23 21:26:26 2008
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold

Is she taking enough vitamin D? It's a natural pain killer, per article that 
was just posted on this site.
 
Sincerely< Barb M. 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Norton, Steve <mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com> 
Date: 9/23/2008 19:09:43
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold
 
Thanks, that generator is reasonably priced and certainly safer than the
microwave transformer approach. I wlll look into all the suggestions
everyone has made and I am surprised be the FAST responses. I sincerely
mean the thanks. The pain killers my friend takes almost incapicates her
and I hope there is spme way to help her have a more normal life.
  - Steve N
 
-Original Message-
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold
 
Start here:
  http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm
 
   Chuck
Xerox and Wurlitzer will merge to market reproductive organs.
 
 
On 9/23/2008 6:11:42 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote:
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have
 
> a design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N
>
 
 
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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[B Magnatta]

Is she taking enough vitamin D? It's a natural pain killer, per article that
was just posted on this site.

Sincerely< Barb M. 
 
---Original Message---
 
From: Norton, Steve
Date: 9/23/2008 19:09:43
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold
 
Thanks, that generator is reasonably priced and certainly safer than the
microwave transformer approach. I wlll look into all the suggestions
everyone has made and I am surprised be the FAST responses. I sincerely
mean the thanks. The pain killers my friend takes almost incapicates her
and I hope there is spme way to help her have a more normal life.
  - Steve N
 
-Original Message-
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold
 
Start here:
  http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm
 
   Chuck
Xerox and Wurlitzer will merge to market reproductive organs.
 
 
On 9/23/2008 6:11:42 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote:
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have
 
> a design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N
>
 
 
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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

Thanks, that generator is reasonably priced and certainly safer than the
microwave transformer approach. I wlll look into all the suggestions
everyone has made and I am surprised be the FAST responses. I sincerely
mean the thanks. The pain killers my friend takes almost incapicates her
and I hope there is spme way to help her have a more normal life.
 - Steve N 

-Original Message-
From: cking...@nycap.rr.com [mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:31 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold

Start here:
http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm

Chuck
Xerox and Wurlitzer will merge to market reproductive organs.


On 9/23/2008 6:11:42 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote:
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain 
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have

> a design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N
> 


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[Norton, Steve]

Thanks. Yes, I am that Steve Norton. I guess the traffic from here
caused them to take down their site. I should have a printout of the
site some where. I do have plans that uses a microwave transformer and
variac to create a HV arc with gold electrodes and manual gap adjuster
but was hoping there was something simpler. I will have her try CS first
and also Ribose to see if that helps. Then iodine as Craig has
suggested. And if I go the generator route it may make sense to purchase
the generator that Chuck provided a link to. It certainly would be less
dangerous than the microwave transformer route. Everyone has given me so
much to consider so quickly.


Thanks to ALL.
 - Steve N

-Original Message-
From: bob Larson [mailto:bobl...@cablespeed.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:33 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Colloidal gold

fibromyalgia is prominent among the symptoms of active chronic hep-c
infection, so that should be ruled out.  CS manages mine = no more fibro
there are other possible causes (that i don't recall) that should also
be ruled out or dealt with.

do you suppose CG might get at the root cause or only give symptomatic
relief?

i think you know about Karl's site?
http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Sales/Sales1.html
i don't know if it's still there, but there used to be a pretty nice set
of pics and plans for building one.  MOT + variac + even an automatic
arc gap adjuster.

and wasn't this (now dead site) with all the pics of a CG system and
produced product you steve norton?  http://www.biochi.com/process_3.htm

bobL

> -Original Message-
> From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:12 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Colloidal gold
>
>
>
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain 
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have

> a design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N


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RE: CS>Colloidal gold

[bob Larson]

fibromyalgia is prominent among the symptoms of active chronic hep-c
infection, so that should be ruled out.  CS manages mine = no more fibro
there are other possible causes (that i don't recall) that should also be
ruled out or dealt with.

do you suppose CG might get at the root cause or only give symptomatic
relief?

i think you know about Karl's site?
http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Sales/Sales1.html
i don't know if it's still there, but there used to be a pretty nice set of
pics and plans for building one.  MOT + variac + even an automatic arc gap
adjuster.

and wasn't this (now dead site) with all the pics of a CG system and
produced product you steve norton?  http://www.biochi.com/process_3.htm

bobL

> -Original Message-
> From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 6:12 PM
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Colloidal gold
>
>
>
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have a
> design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[cking001]

Start here:
http://www.colloidalgoldmachines-central.com/Research/Ovo.htm

Chuck
Xerox and Wurlitzer will merge to market reproductive organs.


On 9/23/2008 6:11:42 PM, Norton, Steve (stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote:
> A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain
> killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have a
> design for a colloidal gold generator?
> Thanks,
> Steve N
> 
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Craig Chamberlin]

Hi Steve,

Fibromyalgia responds very well to iodine supplementation.  It is 
relatively inexpensive as well.  Find more information in these places:


The Yahoo iodine group...much info and people relating experiences:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/iodine/

The web site with a very comprehensive discussion of high dose iodine
supplementation (meaning Lugol's or Iodoral):

http://www.iodine4health.com

Iodoral:

https://vvv9.com/iodoral  The cheapest I have found it in the US.

The book written by Brownstein, which has great information, but he
isn't a great writer:

http://www.drbrownstein.com/singleproduct.asp?id=787

Hope this is helpful...the iodine group is large and the moderator is 
terrific...her name is Stephanie.


Kind Regards,

Craig

Norton, Steve wrote:
 
A friend has Fibtromyalgia and desperately wants to get off the pain

killers. Colloidal gold has been recommended to help. Does anyone have a
design for a colloidal gold generator?
Thanks,
Steve N


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RE: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Jim Holmes]

Interesting.  Thank you for the link.

 Jim 

-Original Message-
From: Pat [mailto:pattycake29...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:10 PM
To: silver list
Subject: CS>Colloidal Gold

To learn about making colloidal gold, you might join the Yahoo group
cg_exchange .  There are instructions for making your own machine, but it
takes high voltage and is a lot more complicated than making CS.  You can
buy colloidal gold from the man who started the colloidal gold groups, Karl
Reinhart. His website is http://colloidalgoldmachines-central.com  

Pat 


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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[mborgert]

cannot open it up
mary
 -- Original message --
From: Susan 
> www.silver-biotic.com 
> 
> "James McCourt, Ph.D."  wrote:  Where did you 
> find 
> it?
> - Original Message - 
>   From: Susan 
>   To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
>   Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:45 PM
>   Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>   
> 
>   I ordered some rated @240 ppm and using it to treat hypothyroid related 
> depression and it is working fine for me...
>   Susan
> 
> Robert Berger  wrote:
> Hi Listers,
>
>   Has anyone made or used colloidal gold recently??
>
>   I am using some 7.4 PPM that I made back in Feb 2001 and it seems to 
> relieve 
> the knee pains.
>
>   If  you have any knowledge Please let me know.
>
>   Thanks
>
>   "Ole Bob" with knee problems
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Susan]

www.silver-biotic.com 

"James McCourt, Ph.D."  wrote:  Where did you find 
it?
- Original Message - 
  From: Susan 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:45 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
  

  I ordered some rated @240 ppm and using it to treat hypothyroid related 
depression and it is working fine for me...
  Susan

Robert Berger  wrote:
Hi Listers,
   
  Has anyone made or used colloidal gold recently??
   
  I am using some 7.4 PPM that I made back in Feb 2001 and it seems to relieve 
the knee pains.
   
  If  you have any knowledge Please let me know.
   
  Thanks
   
  "Ole Bob" with knee problems


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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[James McCourt, Ph.D.]

Where did you find it?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Susan 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 3:45 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  I ordered some rated @240 ppm and using it to treat hypothyroid related 
depression and it is working fine for me...
  Susan

  Robert Berger  wrote:
Hi Listers,

Has anyone made or used colloidal gold recently??

I am using some 7.4 PPM that I made back in Feb 2001 and it seems to 
relieve the knee pains.

If  you have any knowledge Please let me know.

Thanks

"Ole Bob" with knee problems




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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Susan]

I ordered some rated @240 ppm and using it to treat hypothyroid related 
depression and it is working fine for me...
  Susan

Robert Berger  wrote:
Hi Listers,
   
  Has anyone made or used colloidal gold recently??
   
  I am using some 7.4 PPM that I made back in Feb 2001 and it seems to relieve 
the knee pains.
   
  If  you have any knowledge Please let me know.
   
  Thanks
   
  "Ole Bob" with knee problems



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[sol]

No problem, but don't forget, ok?
sol

William Amos wrote:


Hi:
I started with CG-1 and haven't had time to get back to my story. Christmas 
week and all.
Bill
 

 




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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[elle roberts]

A good read about colloidal gold is at http://www.colloidalgold.net/c-gold.htm
elle
>From: stepbystep...@aol.com
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 23:13:29 EST
>
>I would appreciate some info too. I would like to try it.
>Thanks,
>Vitale
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Lea Ann]

That's too bad, I've learned so much from various Yahoo Groups and it's cutting 
edge stuff you'de never get in a book.

I "think" you have to set up a yahoo e-mail account (or something like that) 
before you can set up a user idenity with yahoo?

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
  - Original Message - 
  From: cliff hume 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; to...@shaw.ca 
  Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:12 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Lea Ann:

  I have never been able to hook up with yahoo for some reason, so I just quit 
trying anymore.

  Regards,  Cliff  ch...@shaw.ca 

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Lea Ann]

That's too bad, I've learned so much from various Yahoo Groups and it's cutting 
edge stuff you'de never get in a book.

I "think" you have to set up a yahoo e-mail account (or something like that) 
before you can set up a user idenity with yahoo?

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
  - Original Message - 
  From: cliff hume 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com ; to...@shaw.ca 
  Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 11:12 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Lea Ann:

  I have never been able to hook up with yahoo for some reason, so I just quit 
trying anymore.

  Regards,  Cliff  ch...@shaw.ca 

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[cliff hume]

Lea Ann:

I have never been able to hook up with yahoo for some reason, so I just quit 
trying anymore.

Regards,  Cliff  ch...@shaw.ca 
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lea Ann 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2004 2:51 AM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Hello Cliff,

  Whether Bill sends you the info or not... if you want to make your own 
colloidal gold, I highly suggest joining the colloidal gold yahoo group at:  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/

  They discuss all kinds of set ups for making CG, saftey, and how to make 
improvements on their systems/proceedures.

  There is a lot of knowledge on that list!

  Best Regards,
  Lea Ann Savage
  Satellite Beach, FL
  321-773-7088
- Original Message - 
From: cliff hume 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


Would you please send the information on CG to Cliff at: ch...@shaw.ca   I 
want to make my own if at all possible. Thank you.

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Lea Ann]

OOps, I just saw that someone else already posted the same advice... sorry for 
the duplication!

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
  - Original Message - 
  From: fg227 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 9:15 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold



  Join the yahoo colloidal gold group

  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Lea Ann]

Hello Cliff,

Whether Bill sends you the info or not... if you want to make your own 
colloidal gold, I highly suggest joining the colloidal gold yahoo group at:  
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/

They discuss all kinds of set ups for making CG, saftey, and how to make 
improvements on their systems/proceedures.

There is a lot of knowledge on that list!

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
  - Original Message - 
  From: cliff hume 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:24 PM
  Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Would you please send the information on CG to Cliff at: ch...@shaw.ca   I 
  want to make my own if at all possible. Thank you.

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Stepbystepltd]

I would appreciate some info too. I would like to try it.
Thanks,
Vitale

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[fg227]

Join the yahoo colloidal gold group

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/





- Original Message -
From: "cliff hume" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


> Would you please send the information on CG to Cliff at: ch...@shaw.ca   I
> want to make my own if at all possible. Thank you.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dan Nave" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 3:24 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>
>
> > In that case, I would be interested in receiving the info if you
> > can find the time to prepare it.  You can either send it to me
> > personally or to the list.  I would opt for the list as I expect
> > that there will be a few others who would be interested as well.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> > Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
> >
> > * From: William Amos (view other messages by this author)
> > * Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:42:01
> >
> > Hi Dan:
> > I would be more than happy to share this information with anyone
> > interested. It would take a little time to prepare it in detail and
> > perhaps send it in on a computer, since I only use a mailstation. My
> > daughter takes care of those things since my time is limited on
messages.
> >
> > Bill Amos
> > --
> > Can you describe your process in more detail, or is it secret?
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
> >
> > From: William Amos (view other messages by this author)  Date: Thu, 16
Dec
> > 2004 11:50:07
> >
>
> --
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> >
> > Hello Again:
> > My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color. I
> > experimented for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a simple but
> > complicated method
> > of making it with HVAC and LVDC in combination. I have sent it to be
> > tested, with no results yet.
> >
> > The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped "
> >
> > Bill
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[cliff hume]

Would you please send the information on CG to Cliff at: ch...@shaw.ca   I 
want to make my own if at all possible. Thank you.



- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Nave" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold



In that case, I would be interested in receiving the info if you
can find the time to prepare it.  You can either send it to me
personally or to the list.  I would opt for the list as I expect
that there will be a few others who would be interested as well.

Thanks,

Dan


Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

* From: William Amos (view other messages by this author)
* Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:42:01

Hi Dan:
I would be more than happy to share this information with anyone 
interested. It would take a little time to prepare it in detail and 
perhaps send it in on a computer, since I only use a mailstation. My 
daughter takes care of those things since my time is limited on messages.


Bill Amos
--
Can you describe your process in more detail, or is it secret?

Dan



CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

From: William Amos (view other messages by this author)  Date: Thu, 16 Dec 
2004 11:50:07




Hello Again:
My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color. I 
experimented for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a simple but 
complicated method
of making it with HVAC and LVDC in combination. I have sent it to be 
tested, with no results yet.


The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped "

Bill



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Dan Nave]

In that case, I would be interested in receiving the info if you
can find the time to prepare it.  You can either send it to me
personally or to the list.  I would opt for the list as I expect
that there will be a few others who would be interested as well.

Thanks,

Dan


Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

* From: William Amos (view other messages by this author)
* Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:42:01

Hi Dan:
I would be more than happy to share this information with anyone interested. It 
would take a little time to prepare it in detail and perhaps send it in on a 
computer, since I only use a mailstation. My daughter takes care of those things 
since my time is limited on messages.


Bill Amos
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Dan



CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

From: William Amos (view other messages by this author)  Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 
11:50:07




Hello Again:
My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color. I experimented 
for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a simple but complicated method
of making it with HVAC and LVDC in combination. I have sent it to be tested, 
with no results yet.


The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped "

Bill



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[William Amos]

Hii Dan:
I would be more than happy to share this information with anyone interested. It 
would take a little time to prepare it in detail and perhaps send it in on a 
computer, since I only use a mailstation. My daughter takes care of those 
things since my time is limited on messages.  
Bill Amos
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CS>Re:Re: CS>Re:Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

From: William Amos (view other messages by this author)  Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 
11:50:07 



Hello Again:
My CG is totally clear. I was never concerned about any color. I experimented 
for nearly 2 years, off & on, before finding a simple but complicated method
of making it with HVAC and LVDC in combination. I have sent it to be tested, 
with no results yet. 

The important thing is what I have been told " it has helped " Bill



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[adrian]

Yep, in a multi-dimensional universe there's more than dozens of ways to 
kill cats.


adrian

Marshall Dudley wrote:

Some here may find these interesting.

Methods of making gold colloids:

http://www.nd.edu/~pkamat/synthesis/metals.html
http://www.sas.org/E-Bulletin/2003-10-31/chem/


Marshall



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[Trem]

Whew, Marshall.  Not for those of us that are not versed in chemistry.  I
marvel that anyone can do those tricks.

Trem

- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


> Some here may find these interesting.
>
> Methods of making gold colloids:
>
> http://www.nd.edu/~pkamat/synthesis/metals.html
> http://www.sas.org/E-Bulletin/2003-10-31/chem/
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Marshall Dudley]

Some here may find these interesting.

Methods of making gold colloids:

http://www.nd.edu/~pkamat/synthesis/metals.html
http://www.sas.org/E-Bulletin/2003-10-31/chem/


Marshall



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[adrian]

So nice to know you care. I'm glad you write "believe". I'm not so sure 
you are right, but time will tell. I don't sky dive, I sky fly, but not 
in the ordinary sky.


Would somebody care to explain why my use of that word "blighter' caused 
such a background furore. It all reminds me of a line in a poem by my 
old professor about "those foreigners with their unintelligible 
cooking". To me words are just noises we make, what they mean or are

taken to mean, is quite something else it seems.x

I rather doubt my *setup* will change, but that's another story.

adrian.


cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:

I believe Adrian is deriving many benefits from his colloidal silver
(made with a rather expensive anode).
Colloidal gold, however, is a high voltage underwater arcing process.

I see that he has joined the CG group, so I expect his setup will
change if he wishes to pursue CG making.

Chuck
 If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

On 12/15/2004 3:53:18 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:


I seriously doubt that this set up would produce colloidal gold.
I wish the folks who know the requirements of a gen to make CG would 
weigh in on this.

sol



<>

-Original Message-
I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series,
so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed
some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco
clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the
+setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver
and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c
silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter

adrian









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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[cking001]

I believe Adrian is deriving many benefits from his colloidal silver
(made with a rather expensive anode).
Colloidal gold, however, is a high voltage underwater arcing process.

I see that he has joined the CG group, so I expect his setup will
change if he wishes to pursue CG making.

Chuck
 If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.

On 12/15/2004 3:53:18 AM, silver-list@eskimo.com wrote:
>I seriously doubt that this set up would produce colloidal gold.
>I wish the folks who know the requirements of a gen to make CG would 
>weigh in on this.
>sol
>
>> <>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series,
>> so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed
>> some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco
>> clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the
>> +setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver
>> and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c
>> silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter
>>
>> adrian
>>
>>


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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[sol]

I seriously doubt that this set up would produce colloidal gold.
I wish the folks who know the requirements of a gen to make CG would 
weigh in on this.

sol


<>

-Original Message-
I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series,
so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed
some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco
clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the
+setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver
and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c
silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter

adrian




 




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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[adrian]

Not quite sure what you mean by "placement" Get jar, put rubber band on 
top, where the screwtop is, make wire hangers, poke in clips so they fit 
inside on the edge, attach silver and gold strips in clips, pour in 
water, aqua distillata. Attach the series gumbo to the 3 batteries, and 
wait for an hour. By that time it starts producing bubbles at the 
cathode and goes blackish, which I imagine is water impurities and  the 
metal being short of pure from 0.9, etc. Make sure the h20 does not 
touch the clips, although a bit of chrome is anti-diabetic anyhow.  I 
made this lot first as CS and then added the gold. It sort of looks 
greyish and a laser does not show up any particles.  The neck of the jar 
is about 4 inches, and that's the distance of the metal bits. DC takes a 
wee while at low amperage to get its act together, and I imagine that 
the moment it starts to do things I can see the particles are getting 
into atomic sizes and go molecular, which is not good.


That what you wanted?

adrian.



Ed Kasper wrote:

Adrian  do you use one silver one gold ? can you describe the placement of
the silver/gold.

thanks

ed

-Original Message-



Make your own, it's MUCH cheaper. I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series,
so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed
some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco
clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the
+setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver
and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c
silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter
I've also given it to friends.
 adrian




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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[adrian]

You're confusing a factory with nature, or may be some people have 
alligator minds?


adrian


Dan Nave wrote:

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

From: fg227 wrote:
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:39:33 






We have alligator clips in USA and you have crocodile clips in NZ. I


wonder


if they're the same thing :)





Dan





Alligator clips have a long and narrow jaw which comes to almost a
point at the nose.

Crocodile clips have a blunt nose with a wider jaw.

To "Tweak" is to make adjustments...

(Sheesh...)

Dan




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RE: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Ed Kasper]

Adrian  do you use one silver one gold ? can you describe the placement of
the silver/gold.

thanks

ed

-Original Message-

>
> Make your own, it's MUCH cheaper. I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series,
> so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed
> some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco
> clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the
> +setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver
> and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c
> silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter
> I've also given it to friends.
>   adrian


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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[elle roberts]

I wonder this too ... is the gold real? I dont think so.
What have other list members to say about this?
Has anybody consulted Karl?
h
elle
>From: "Dan Nave" 
>Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>To: 
>Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 09:35:28 -0600
>
>Re: CS>Colloidal Gold
>
>From: fg227 wrote:
>Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:39:33
>
>
>
> >We have alligator clips in USA and you have crocodile clips in NZ. I
>wonder
> >if they're the same thing :)
>
>
> >Dan
>
>
>
>Alligator clips have a long and narrow jaw which comes to almost a
>point at the nose.
>
>Crocodile clips have a blunt nose with a wider jaw.
>
>To "Tweak" is to make adjustments...
>
>(Sheesh...)
>
>Dan
>
>
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Dan Nave]

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

From: fg227 wrote:
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2004 02:39:33 



>We have alligator clips in USA and you have crocodile clips in NZ. I
wonder
>if they're the same thing :)


>Dan



Alligator clips have a long and narrow jaw which comes to almost a
point at the nose.

Crocodile clips have a blunt nose with a wider jaw.

To "Tweak" is to make adjustments...

(Sheesh...)

Dan




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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[fg227]

Very unique way to make colloidal gold. I invite you to post your colloidal
gold ideas over at this yahoo group:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cg_exchange/

Others are also making colloidal gold at home

We have alligator clips in USA and you have crocodile clips in NZ. I wonder
if they're the same thing :)


Dan





- Original Message -
From: "adrian" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


>
> Make your own, it's MUCH cheaper. I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series,
> so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed
> some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco
> clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the
> +setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver
> and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c
> silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter
> I've also given it to friends.
>   adrian
>
>
> fg227 wrote:
> > Inspiral
> > http://www.mega-health.com/
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > *From:* C. Hatzfeld <mailto:ch...@comcast.net>
> > *To:* silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
> > *Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2004 6:24 PM
> > *Subject:* CS>Colloidal Gold
> >
> > Hi, all.  I am interested in purchasing some Colloidal Gold.  Can
> > anyone recommend or tell me which brands to consider?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > Cindy
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[adrian]

Make your own, it's MUCH cheaper. I use 3x 9 volt batteries in series, 
so they produce 17 volts, two crocodile clips, a large jam jar. fixed 
some clips on the edge of the jar with a rubber band to hold the croco 
clips, bought some pure silver and gold, cost me 66 bucks for that, the 
+setup about 20 bucks. pour in distilled water to the top of the silver 
and gold. The size was 1 cm x 5 cm at 0.2 mm thick. I can now make c 
silver ands gold for the rest of my life for cents a liter

I've also given it to friends.
 adrian


fg227 wrote:

Inspiral
http://www.mega-health.com/
 


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*From:* C. Hatzfeld 
*To:* silver-list@eskimo.com 
*Sent:* Monday, December 13, 2004 6:24 PM
*Subject:* CS>Colloidal Gold

Hi, all.  I am interested in purchasing some Colloidal Gold.  Can
anyone recommend or tell me which brands to consider? 
 
Thanks!!
 
Cindy



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[fg227]

Inspiral
http://www.mega-health.com/

  - Original Message - 
  From: C. Hatzfeld 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:24 PM
  Subject: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Hi, all.  I am interested in purchasing some Colloidal Gold.  Can anyone 
recommend or tell me which brands to consider?  

  Thanks!!

  Cindy

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Lea Ann]

Karl on the colloidal gold list:  cg_excha...@yahoogroups.com 

makes a VERY good quality colloidal gold and sells it at a very good price.

Best Regards,
Lea Ann Savage
Satellite Beach, FL
321-773-7088
  - Original Message - 
  From: C. Hatzfeld 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 13, 2004 6:24 PM
  Subject: CS>Colloidal Gold


  Hi, all.  I am interested in purchasing some Colloidal Gold.  Can anyone 
recommend or tell me which brands to consider?  

  Thanks!!

  Cindy

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Marshall Dudley]

The process is called sputtering.  Basically a plasma will result in a stream
of high speed ions toward the electrode if the polarity is correct.  When an
ion hits the electrode, it will knock a chunk of atoms (one or a few) off of
the electode, which will then move with the plasma until it reaches something
that is solid or liquid and cool, where it instantly condenses onto the
surface.  In the case of an underwater arc, the surface will be the
water/steam interface of the bubble the plazma is in.  If it is in a liquid,
then instead of forming a mirror finish on the surface like it does on a
solid surface, it will move into the liquid forming a colloid.

There is another similar process called evaporation, but this requires a
rather hard vacuum, and red hot tempertures to accomplish.

Marshall

"Jonathan B. Britten" wrote:

> A non-engineer's quick question:  is a user at risk of electrocution
> with a high-voltage plasma unit?
>
> I am familiar with plasma generation of ozone, via the SOTA web site.
> I had no idea that plasma (which I understand only dimly) could be used
> to generate colloids.Perhaps a few other list members would
> appreciate a very succinct, plain-English explanation of the basic
> operating principles.  I certainly would!   Thanks in advance . . . .
>
> JBB
>
> On Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004, at 12:47 Asia/Tokyo, 
> wrote:
>
> > The PS15 is a PLASMA GENERATION Unit, which offers the user full
> > adjustability from 0-15,000 volts.
> > This unit can be used to experiment with HVAC Colloidal Silver, Copper,
> > Zinc, Gold and Platinum liquids. It creates ozone too.
> > 
> >
> >  http://www.pridelabs.us/cs/systems.htm
> >
> > I have one and it does the trick for silver and gold.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "S Nowell" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 5:48 PM
> > Subject: CS>Colloidal Gold
> >
> >
> >> Charlie, try
> >> http://www.pridelabs.us/cs/systems.htm
> >> Look for their PLASMA GENERATION Unit. WOW
> >>
> >> Tchau
> >> Sam
> >>
> >> Charlie wrote
> >>
> >> Here's a question which could be taken off line if
> >> someone wants to
> >> respond...
> >>
> >> I take it that one or more of the members of this list
> >> have developed
> >> the technology to generate colloidal gold using HVDC.
> >> Could someone
> >> direct me to a site that sells a reliable machine?
> >> Does such a site
> >> exist?
> >>
> >> charlie
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[fig227]

- Original Message -
From: "Jonathan B. Britten" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold


> A non-engineer's quick question:  is a user at risk of electrocution
> with a high-voltage plasma unit?
>
> I am familiar with plasma generation of ozone, via the SOTA web site.
> I had no idea that plasma (which I understand only dimly) could be used
> to generate colloids.Perhaps a few other list members would
> appreciate a very succinct, plain-English explanation of the basic
> operating principles.  I certainly would!   Thanks in advance . . . .


I have used my PS15 unit for about 3 months to make colloidal gold and
colloidal silver.

My main reason was to make colloidal gold. It came with gold, copper and
silver electrodes. My humble opinion, the silver is much better than that
produced by low voltage DC. And it can make gold and silver colloids very
quicklymuch faster than low voltage DC silver is produced. My high
voltage unit produces colloids via what Pride Labs calls polarized DC.  For
a better explanation you must talk to them

There is little chance of shocking yourself with this unit. I have spent 2
hours on the phone with the people in Portland Oregon who make this unit and
I am very happy with their explanation of the science behind it. All I have
is a high school science education plus hours of tinkering around with
computers and electrical and electronic  "stuff".

For more information about the PS15 and the plasma arc generation method
etc. you must contact them.
You can mention Dan on the silver list. This is their advanced proprietary
technology. This is their intellectual property.

I must check with Pride Labs but I can probably help you via the phone if
you get this machine. To help you get up and running though the owner's
manuals are very good.


Dan






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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Jonathan B. Britten]

A non-engineer's quick question:  is a user at risk of electrocution 
with a high-voltage plasma unit?


I am familiar with plasma generation of ozone, via the SOTA web site.  
I had no idea that plasma (which I understand only dimly) could be used 
to generate colloids.Perhaps a few other list members would 
appreciate a very succinct, plain-English explanation of the basic 
operating principles.  I certainly would!   Thanks in advance . . . .





JBB



On Wednesday, Mar 17, 2004, at 12:47 Asia/Tokyo,  
wrote:



The PS15 is a PLASMA GENERATION Unit, which offers the user full
adjustability from 0-15,000 volts.
This unit can be used to experiment with HVAC Colloidal Silver, Copper,
Zinc, Gold and Platinum liquids. It creates ozone too.


 http://www.pridelabs.us/cs/systems.htm

I have one and it does the trick for silver and gold.

Dan










- Original Message -
From: "S Nowell" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 5:48 PM
Subject: CS>Colloidal Gold



Charlie, try
http://www.pridelabs.us/cs/systems.htm
Look for their PLASMA GENERATION Unit. WOW

Tchau
Sam

Charlie wrote

Here's a question which could be taken off line if
someone wants to
respond...

I take it that one or more of the members of this list
have developed
the technology to generate colloidal gold using HVDC.
Could someone
direct me to a site that sells a reliable machine?
Does such a site
exist?

charlie









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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[fig227]

The PS15 is a PLASMA GENERATION Unit, which offers the user full
adjustability from 0-15,000 volts.
This unit can be used to experiment with HVAC Colloidal Silver, Copper,
Zinc, Gold and Platinum liquids. It creates ozone too.


 http://www.pridelabs.us/cs/systems.htm

I have one and it does the trick for silver and gold.

Dan










- Original Message -
From: "S Nowell" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 5:48 PM
Subject: CS>Colloidal Gold


> Charlie, try
> http://www.pridelabs.us/cs/systems.htm
> Look for their PLASMA GENERATION Unit. WOW
>
> Tchau
> Sam
>
> Charlie wrote
>
> Here's a question which could be taken off line if
> someone wants to
> respond...
>
> I take it that one or more of the members of this list
> have developed
> the technology to generate colloidal gold using HVDC.
> Could someone
> direct me to a site that sells a reliable machine?
> Does such a site
> exist?
>
> charlie
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold

[Jan Stoeten]

Here are some CG generator sites for you (or anyone else) to visit:

http://www.colloidalsilvergens.com/colloidal_silver_generator_store.htm
http://www.pridelabs.us/cs/ps100.htm
http://www.mega-health.com/colgen.htm (very professional units and (high)
prices!

All the best,
Jan Stoeten,
The Netherlands



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From: "Charlie Smith (Volt)" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 7:11 PM
Subject: CS>Colloidal Gold


> Here's a question which could be taken off line if someone wants to
> respond...
>
> I take it that one or more of the members of this list have developed
> the technology to generate colloidal gold using HVDC. Could someone
> direct me to a site that sells a reliable machine? Does such a site
> exist?
>
> charlie
>
>
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Re: CS>colloidal gold and zinc: generator claim

[Ode Coyote]

  You go , Frank.

 I see all sort of particle size assertions 'out there' but nothing at all
to back them up.
 It's not hard to figure why that is.
 Assertions make $$$
  Backing them up costs $$$
..and quite often reduces the assertions considerably.
 [Not to mention the crow pie factor]

 Then comes the temptation to spin the results at a very high RPM with
confusing language.

Ode

At 01:28 PM 2/8/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Ode Coyote wrote:
>
> "Solution strengths up to 200 PPM can be made or higher. Particle size is
>limited to .001 micron no matter how strong the solution gets so there is
>never a problem with 'current runaway'."
>
> ## I don't see how one controls the other...small particles means no
>current run away?  How?
> Is that particle size theoretical or actual?
>  I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim.
>
>
>I will offer to measure the particle size distribution and share the results
>with this list if someone will send me a sample of this solution.
>
>frank key
>
>
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Re: CS>colloidal gold and zinc: generator claim

[William Meyer]

hi
i have forwarded this message to "brent"  who makes the generators

On Feb 8, 2004, at 1:28 PM, Frank Key wrote:


Ode Coyote wrote:

 "Solution strengths up to 200 PPM can be made or higher. Particle 
size is
limited to .001 micron no matter how strong the solution gets so there 
is

never a problem with 'current runaway'."

 ## I don't see how one controls the other...small particles means no
current run away?  How?
 Is that particle size theoretical or actual?
  I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim.


I will offer to measure the particle size distribution and share the 
results

with this list if someone will send me a sample of this solution.

frank key



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Re: CS>colloidal gold and zinc: generator claim

[Frank Key]

Ode Coyote wrote:

 "Solution strengths up to 200 PPM can be made or higher. Particle size is
limited to .001 micron no matter how strong the solution gets so there is
never a problem with 'current runaway'."

 ## I don't see how one controls the other...small particles means no
current run away?  How?
 Is that particle size theoretical or actual?
  I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim.


I will offer to measure the particle size distribution and share the results
with this list if someone will send me a sample of this solution.

frank key



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Re: CS>colloidal gold and zinc: generator claim

[Ode Coyote]

 ## Brent seems to have some sort of clue about the electrical requirments
to make 'other than' colloidal silver.  He doesn't say much about what that
clue might be.

http://colloidalsilvergens.com/generator-info/colloidal_generator_sonic_mps.
html#Ultrasonic

## Humm  Interesting.  Pretty yellow murky looking CS though. [Could be the
microscopic bubbles that make it look murky if the photo was taken with the
unit running]
 Interesting way to handle electrodes.

 I was never able to make copper or zinc colloids at 30 v even with Brents
electrodes...maybe the ultrasound helps?
 
  "Solution strengths up to 200 PPM can be made or higher. Particle size is
limited to .001 micron no matter how strong the solution gets so there is
never a problem with 'current runaway'."

 ## I don't see how one controls the other...small particles means no
current run away?  How?
 Is that particle size theoretical or actual?
  I'd like to see some documentation before I believe that claim.

 "The internal microprocessor circuitry will consistently put out 30 volts
at the correct amperage with all of the above power sources.The built in
microprocessor constantly controls the current supply irregardless of the
power source. Because of the stringent controls on the output power very
little oxidation will occur keeping the solution very clear.

When the voltage of the 9-volt battery drops down to 3.5 the unit will
automatically shut off."

###Current control and voltage referenced auto off?
 If so, it could have been said better 'cause it sounds like the gen will
shut off when the battery goes dead.
 The photo of the CS doesn't look all that 'clear' to me.
 Interesting what he says about oxidation. Not sure what he's talking about
though. Oxidation of what?


Ode

At 04:32 AM 2/8/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>hi
>the link below claims to be able to home brew zinc, copper, and gold  
>ionic solutions.
>this seems pretty new for a home generator.
>i know "water oz" proprietary process claims to use another process  
>rather than
>our electrical ionic method to produce their colloidal minerals.
>
>http://colloidalsilvergens.com/generator-info/ 
>colloidal_gold_generator.htm
>
>i admit, there seems to be no information on the process at  the above  
>link,
>but if anyone wishes to spend  the time i would be happy for an off the  
>cuff comment.
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information website

[Robert Berger]

The red color is indicative of the PPM of gold present.

"Ole Bob"

fig...@comcast.net wrote:

> OK and I thank you for the information. Chinese alchemy sources on the
> internet refer to a red gold. Mesogold is described as ruby red. Is
> there any parallel with the Mesogold manufacturing process?


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RE: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information website

[James Holmes]

This should be interesting.

-Original Message-
From: Frank Key [mailto:fr...@colloidalsciencelab.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 1:28 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information
website


What exactly are you calling "hype and claims"?

frank key



http://www.mesogold.com/mesogold.htm

They seem to have state of the art colloidal gold and lot of hype and
claims. Also just a lot of good solid info on colloidal gold. A lot of the
CG claims are mental, some are physical.

Dan



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information website

[fig227]

OK and I thank you for the information. Chinese alchemy sources on the internet 
refer to a red gold. Mesogold is described as ruby red. Is there any parallel 
with the Mesogold manufacturing process? 
 
  
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=6388307&dopt=Abstract
 
  Outline of the beginnings of alchemy and its antecedents.

  Mahdihassan S.

  There had been a long use of Simples as drugs of longevity. Among these red 
substances predominated, red ochre and cinnabar as minerals, ephedra bearing 
red berries and pomegranate and peach as vegetable products. In China herbalism 
became a cult of longevity with its legendary founder as Emperor Shen Nung and 
with the god of longevity finally emerging from the peach as Shou-Sing. To 
excell simple drugs of longevity the first synthetic drug was prepared as brick 
red colloidal gold. It was called Chin-I. Gold-cum-herbal juice. Dialectally it 
was pronounced Kim-Iya, whence Alkimiya in Arabic, and finally alchemy. Chin-I 
was Herbo-golden drug and also gold-making-juice, a miraculous substance. But 
it was not blood-red. Now came Chin-Tan, Cinnabar-gold, red like blood. Its 
redness equalled blood and as such was soul, gold as its acceptor had an 
everlasting body. Chin-Tan was designed as the ideal drug of longevity. Alchemy 
started by making red gold but degenerated, trying to make bullion gold.


Also, from what you're saying Mesogold approaches the monatomic gold talked 
about on the internet 



 
Dan 
 
 
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From: "Frank Key" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 6:38 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information 
website


> Dan wrote:
> 
> > > What exactly are you calling "hype and claims"?
> >
> > Colloid size of 9 atoms for their colloidal gold. Is it true or is it
> hype?
> > I don't know
> 
> That value was determined from a measured particle size of 0.65 nm. Using a
> cubic close packing volume reduction of 26%,  Dr. Maass calculated that a
> particle of 0.65 nm diameter would consist of 9 atoms.
> 
> We like to think of it as science, not hype.
> 
> frank key

Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information website

[Frank Key]

Dan wrote:

> > What exactly are you calling "hype and claims"?
>
> Colloid size of 9 atoms for their colloidal gold. Is it true or is it
hype?
> I don't know

That value was determined from a measured particle size of 0.65 nm. Using a
cubic close packing volume reduction of 26%,  Dr. Maass calculated that a
particle of 0.65 nm diameter would consist of 9 atoms.

We like to think of it as science, not hype.

frank key



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information website

[Marshall Dudley]

That is right in the range of what Frank produces.  I was comparing to what most
people would make with a LVDC CS unit making silver.

Marshall

fig...@comcast.net wrote:

> > > Colloid size of 9 atoms for their colloidal gold. Is it true or is it
> hype?
> > > I don't know
>
> > That would be a 3 atom cube.  On the small side, but certainly not
> unrealistic,
> > diameter would likely be about .5 or so nm.
>
> http://www.mesogold.com/MesogoldHPPS.pdf
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Marshall Dudley" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 4:13 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information
> website
>
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> > fig...@comcast.net wrote:
> >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Frank Key" 
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:27 PM
> > > Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and
> information
> > > website
> > >
> > > > What exactly are you calling "hype and claims"?
> > >
> > > Colloid size of 9 atoms for their colloidal gold. Is it true or is it
> hype?
> > > I don't know
> > >
> > > Dan
> > >
> > > >
> > > > frank key
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > http://www.mesogold.com/mesogold.htm
> > > >
> > > > They seem to have state of the art colloidal gold and lot of hype and
> > > > claims. Also just a lot of good solid info on colloidal gold. A lot of
> the
> > > > CG claims are mental, some are physical.
> > > >
> > > > Dan
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information website

[fig227]

> > Colloid size of 9 atoms for their colloidal gold. Is it true or is it
hype?
> > I don't know

> That would be a 3 atom cube.  On the small side, but certainly not
unrealistic,
> diameter would likely be about .5 or so nm.


http://www.mesogold.com/MesogoldHPPS.pdf




- Original Message -
From: "Marshall Dudley" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information
website


>
> Marshall
>
> fig...@comcast.net wrote:
>
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Frank Key" 
> > To: 
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:27 PM
> > Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and
information
> > website
> >
> > > What exactly are you calling "hype and claims"?
> >
> > Colloid size of 9 atoms for their colloidal gold. Is it true or is it
hype?
> > I don't know
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > >
> > > frank key
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.mesogold.com/mesogold.htm
> > >
> > > They seem to have state of the art colloidal gold and lot of hype and
> > > claims. Also just a lot of good solid info on colloidal gold. A lot of
the
> > > CG claims are mental, some are physical.
> > >
> > > Dan



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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information website

[Marshall Dudley]

That would be a 3 atom cube.  On the small side, but certainly not unrealistic,
diameter would likely be about .5 or so nm.

Marshall

fig...@comcast.net wrote:

> - Original Message -
> From: "Frank Key" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:27 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information
> website
>
> > What exactly are you calling "hype and claims"?
>
> Colloid size of 9 atoms for their colloidal gold. Is it true or is it hype?
> I don't know
>
> Dan
>
> >
> > frank key
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.mesogold.com/mesogold.htm
> >
> > They seem to have state of the art colloidal gold and lot of hype and
> > claims. Also just a lot of good solid info on colloidal gold. A lot of the
> > CG claims are mental, some are physical.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information website

[fig227]

- Original Message -
From: "Frank Key" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information
website


> What exactly are you calling "hype and claims"?

Colloid size of 9 atoms for their colloidal gold. Is it true or is it hype?
I don't know

Dan




>
> frank key
>
>
>
> http://www.mesogold.com/mesogold.htm
>
> They seem to have state of the art colloidal gold and lot of hype and
> claims. Also just a lot of good solid info on colloidal gold. A lot of the
> CG claims are mental, some are physical.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal Gold >>>> most extensive claims and information website

[Frank Key]

What exactly are you calling "hype and claims"?

frank key



http://www.mesogold.com/mesogold.htm

They seem to have state of the art colloidal gold and lot of hype and
claims. Also just a lot of good solid info on colloidal gold. A lot of the
CG claims are mental, some are physical.

Dan



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Re: CS>Colloidal gold--> Pride Labs HVAC generators

[Robert Berger]

Hi  Dan,

To make colloidal gold required a 15 kv 60 NST and some machine work to make the
ajustable electrode assembly. It also requires cooling of the CG as the process
generates a lot of heat and when the DW (CG) gets hot the arc goes out.

I visited both URL's and did not see a picture of their generator.

If setup correctly it is not difficult to make, but remember The price of #14
gold wire is NOT cheap.

Why do you want to make CG? It did nothing for me or my wife.

Have fun.

"Ole Bob"



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CS>Re: [silver_list] Re: CS>colloidal gold

[Blivics]

This isn't low voltage but it worked.

I took a Sears electronic air purifier, output 6400 volts DC @ 0.20 mA and 
two 1g. ingot/coin electrodes and suspended them over and about 1/4" into 1qt. 
DW. It took about 5 weeks but I finally got violet CG.

If I remember correctly they were spaced about 1 1/2 inches apart and I had 
to add water almost daily to compensate for evaporation.

I saved about 4oz. to seed my next batch and to use as a color guide. 
Anything less than five weeks brewing will be another success for me.

I have two 5g. ingot/coins that I might try this winter. The old batch is two 
years old and just as pretty as the day I made it.

Michael

Re: CS>Re: [silver_list] Re: CS>colloidal gold

[Marshall Dudley]

And I tried it with 15 KVAC transformer, and still could not make it without
arcing.

Marshall

Trem wrote:

> - Original Message -
> From: "Robert Berger" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 7:34 AM
> Subject: [silver_list] Re: CS>colloidal gold
>
> > Hi Nancy,
> >
> > Some peoplesay you can mke CG with a LVDC CS generator, but I could not
> > do it. I had to go to 15,000 v AC to make CG.
> >
> > "Ole Bob:
> >
> > nancymike wrote:
> >
> > > Question,You are looking for sources for gold.  Can CG be made
> > > with a CS generator?Nancy
> >
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> I agree.  I've tried LVDC and the gold just sits there without ever
> tarnishing or showing any change.  Only success I had was using an NST and
> arcing underwater.  With LVDC the conductivity of the DW never increased nor
> did the color change which should be the indication of electrolysis doing
> something.
>
> As far as I'm concerned anyone who says they can make it with LVDC would
> have to prove it by showing me a lab report.
>
> Trem
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CS>Re: [silver_list] Re: CS>colloidal gold

[Trem]

- Original Message -
From: "Robert Berger" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 7:34 AM
Subject: [silver_list] Re: CS>colloidal gold


> Hi Nancy,
>
> Some peoplesay you can mke CG with a LVDC CS generator, but I could not
> do it. I had to go to 15,000 v AC to make CG.
>
> "Ole Bob:
>
> nancymike wrote:
>
> > Question,You are looking for sources for gold.  Can CG be made
> > with a CS generator?Nancy
>


Hi Bob,

I agree.  I've tried LVDC and the gold just sits there without ever
tarnishing or showing any change.  Only success I had was using an NST and
arcing underwater.  With LVDC the conductivity of the DW never increased nor
did the color change which should be the indication of electrolysis doing
something.

As far as I'm concerned anyone who says they can make it with LVDC would
have to prove it by showing me a lab report.

Trem



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Re: CS>colloidal gold

[Robert Berger]

Hi Nancy,

Some peoplesay you can mke CG with a LVDC CS generator, but I could not
do it. I had to go to 15,000 v AC to make CG.

"Ole Bob:

nancymike wrote:

> Question,You are looking for sources for gold.  Can CG be made
> with a CS generator?Nancy


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Ode Coyote]

LVDC Colloidal Gold?

The PS50 has been 'experimented' with successfully in making low PPM (under 5ppm) LVDC naturally charged Colloidal Gold. These experiments have made clear Colloidal Gold, not the larger particle Reddish or Ruby colored Gold being sold on the market. Low PPM LVDC Colloidal Gold has been shown by blind tests to be effective and useful in as little as 1 PPM. LVDC Colloidal Gold takes anywhere from 4 to 16 hours to experiment with and sometimes can only be pushed to a few PPM above your initial baseline. The PS50 is NOT guaranteed to make LVDC Colloidal Gold in any PPM amount, it can only be used to make experimental LVDC Colloidal Gold. The PS50 has been used on it's FULL POWER setting to create Ruby Red Colloidal Gold, when started with a stabilizer or silver starter, but this experiment took almost 16 hours and the PPM was still only about 7 PPM above the baseline starter. Want a faster Colloidal Gold producer, with more consistent commercial results? Look for our PS100 D or PS15K HVAC Generation Systems!

OK. What is the max voltage setting of the PS50?
It 'looks like' the model name contains a clue where the PS50 would be 50 volts, the PS 100 would be 100 volts and the PS15K would be 15 kilovolts [15,000 volts] .

I.O.W.   What are the parameters of their definition of LVDC?
The 'general' definition for LVDC would be around 27-36 volts.
Ode


At 11:14 AM 8/29/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi Trem,
>If you recall I posted about my CG experimentation last year.  The answers
>are:
>A) Yes, CG can be made with LVDC.  I used the PS50 from Pride Communications
>( www.pridecomm.cc).  I also got the instruction from them, and merely
>followed it.
>B)Yes, the gold particles "fall"' out of the solution after a while (3
>months) and look "Yucky".  We do not keep it that long, but it did so in a
>"special test bottle" put aside for this purpose.
>C) Yes, I got color(s)!  From pale pink to the cherished ruby red!  That's
>when my hubby decided that he'd try MY CG!  Before he would not go near it,
>especially the colorless ones.  Unfortunately, I have so far been unable to
>repeat at will the production of color, much less the intensity.
>D) I do believe that there has been a visible change in the size of  the
>electrodes, so, per your premise...I did get gold into my brew.
>E) Even my "colorless" CG worked for a 70plus y/o RA sufferer.  I did seem
>to lose effectiveness sooner than the colored.  I just told her to  used
>more, and I supplied more.  It worked on her pain!  It also worked on my
>daughter's depression, and I noticed that my hubby was much less stressed,
>almost mellow, at the end of a hectic workday.
>
>I had been a little distracted in the past 5 months (breeding/raising  a
>litter of puppies), and now that my household has returned to normal, and my
>MS appears to be trying to rear it's ugly head, my CS/CG generator is now
>being fired up again.  I will let you know if I ever produce  consistent
>color results.
>BTW, I use 1 gold electrode, obtained from CC Silver, "QTY: 260  GFP18a-H
>Gold Fine .999+ Wire GA: 18, Qty=Hundredths ($19.95/dwt)   $0.20".  In Nov.
>2002, it cost $59.87 (delivered) for 2 approx.. 5" pieces. (I make 2 116oz.
>batches at a time with my PS50).
>Please...no detailed technical questionsI merely followed directions
>from Marc Petersen at Pride Comm., and it worked.
>Jannette
>
>Trem wrote:
>  "...I'm of the opinion that CG cannot be made using LVDC even though there
>are
> some who claim they can do so.  My questions to all of those who say they
> can do it is thisdoes the gold deteriorate and what is the color of the
> CG.  I have not heard anyone say the CG was a violet or red color as  I
> believe it must be if there is in fact any gold in the water.  I also
> haven't heard anyone say the electrodes deteriorate when they make what
>they
> call CG that is colorless.  I think they are deluding themselves.
>
> Trem  "
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[colloidal . silver]

Hi Trem :)

Alex here... I'll take you up on the C.G. guinea pig offer...
I know my leg joint and disc injuries may benefit from it...
I will send you detailed reports of every change I notice... Also, I will
schedule some liver tests at the V.A. clinic and submit the report info to
you about any change in my liver... That's a very good way to track any
toxic build ups...

Regards...


- Original Message -
From: "Trem" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:45 PM
Subject: CS>Colloidal gold


> Hi TJ,
>
> I've been drinking it for several weeks.  No twitches or anything out of
the
> ordinary so far.  I'm quite sure it's not harmful as long as it's not in a
> salt form.  Gold salts are poisonous but that's a different story.
>
> I'm so healthy it's going to be difficult to see any benefits.  Once I get
> the process working better I'll look for someone who needs help and offer
> it.
>
> Trem
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "TJ Garland" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 4:47 PM
> Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold
>
>
> > I live in Oak Ridge ,Tn the "Secret City". In the 40's and 50's hundreds
> of
> > millions of tons of flouride were used and dumped during the uranium
> > enrichment process -making UHF (6). There is some discussion here about
> the
> > only way to remove Flouride from the body is using gold. Is your CG fit
> for
> > human consumption? Does anyone else have in ancedotal or studies of
> anything
> > that will chelate Flourine from the body? BTW- $2B was just approved to
> > continue operating this place. No one here will even discuss Flourine
> > contamination. The stupid dentists still want to give everyone  flouride
> > treatments. Colgate puts stannus flouride in all their toothpastes-
gives
> > everyone  dental flourisis(dicolored and mottled teeth) and then sells
> them
> > a $50 tooth whitener system. What a racket!!!
> >
> > TJ Garland, CMO supplier
> >there are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Trem 
> > >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > >Subject: CS>Colloidal gold
> > >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:25:20 -0700
> > >
> > >Hi List,
> > >
> > >I've been recently making CG using HVAC underwater arcing.  It
sometimes
> > >comes out violet and sometimes more of a gray color but it's always
> crystal
> > >clear .  It seems the arc spacing has a bearing on this.  Does anyone
> else
> > >make it using HVAC and if so would you be interested in comparing
notes?
> > >Off list will be fine unless others want to hear too.
> > >
> > >I'm not sure what the ionic/colloidal ratio is but the PWT reads
between
> 8
> > >and 10 usually.  And it doesn't seem to be any different on the two
> colors.
> > >
> > >I've been drinking it but also want to compare notes with others about
> > >their responses to it.
> > >
> > >Trem
> > >t...@silvergen.com
> > >
> >
> > _
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> > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
> >
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Robert Berger]

Hi Jannette,

There must be some difference as the CG made with 15 kV as it  is still in
suspension and has the same color after about 15 months.

"Ole Bob"

Jannette Abel wrote:

> Hi Trem,
> If you recall I posted about my CG experimentation last year.  The answers
> are:
> A) Yes, CG can be made with LVDC.  I used the PS50 from Pride Communications
> ( www.pridecomm.cc).  I also got the instruction from them, and merely
> followed it.
> B)Yes, the gold particles "fall"' out of the solution after a while (3
> months) and look "Yucky".  We do not keep it that long, but it did so in a
> "special test bottle" put aside for this purpose.
> C) Yes, I got color(s)!  From pale pink to the cherished ruby red!  That's
> when my hubby decided that he'd try MY CG!  Before he would not go near it,
> especially the colorless ones.  Unfortunately, I have so far been unable to
> repeat at will the production of color, much less the intensity.
> D) I do believe that there has been a visible change in the size of the
> electrodes, so, per your premise...I did get gold into my brew.
> E) Even my "colorless" CG worked for a 70plus y/o RA sufferer.  I did seem
> to lose effectiveness sooner than the colored.  I just told her to used
> more, and I supplied more.  It worked on her pain!  It also worked on my
> daughter's depression, and I noticed that my hubby was much less stressed,
> almost mellow, at the end of a hectic workday.
>
> I had been a little distracted in the past 5 months (breeding/raising a
> litter of puppies), and now that my household has returned to normal, and my
> MS appears to be trying to rear it's ugly head, my CS/CG generator is now
> being fired up again.  I will let you know if I ever produce consistent
> color results.
> BTW, I use 1 gold electrode, obtained from CC Silver, "QTY: 260  GFP18a-H
> Gold Fine .999+ Wire GA: 18, Qty=Hundredths ($19.95/dwt)   $0.20".  In Nov.
> 2002, it cost $59.87 (delivered) for 2 approx.. 5" pieces. (I make 2 116oz.
> batches at a time with my PS50).
> Please...no detailed technical questionsI merely followed directions
> from Marc Petersen at Pride Comm., and it worked.
> Jannette
>
> Trem wrote:
>   "...I'm of the opinion that CG cannot be made using LVDC even though there
> are
>  some who claim they can do so.  My questions to all of those who say they
>  can do it is thisdoes the gold deteriorate and what is the color of the
>  CG.  I have not heard anyone say the CG was a violet or red color as I
>  believe it must be if there is in fact any gold in the water.  I also
>  haven't heard anyone say the electrodes deteriorate when they make what
> they
>  call CG that is colorless.  I think they are deluding themselves.
>
>  Trem  "
>
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Jannette Abel]

Hi Trem,
If you recall I posted about my CG experimentation last year.  The answers
are:
A) Yes, CG can be made with LVDC.  I used the PS50 from Pride Communications
( www.pridecomm.cc).  I also got the instruction from them, and merely
followed it.
B)Yes, the gold particles "fall"' out of the solution after a while (3
months) and look "Yucky".  We do not keep it that long, but it did so in a
"special test bottle" put aside for this purpose.
C) Yes, I got color(s)!  From pale pink to the cherished ruby red!  That's
when my hubby decided that he'd try MY CG!  Before he would not go near it,
especially the colorless ones.  Unfortunately, I have so far been unable to
repeat at will the production of color, much less the intensity.
D) I do believe that there has been a visible change in the size of the
electrodes, so, per your premise...I did get gold into my brew.
E) Even my "colorless" CG worked for a 70plus y/o RA sufferer.  I did seem
to lose effectiveness sooner than the colored.  I just told her to used
more, and I supplied more.  It worked on her pain!  It also worked on my
daughter's depression, and I noticed that my hubby was much less stressed,
almost mellow, at the end of a hectic workday.

I had been a little distracted in the past 5 months (breeding/raising a
litter of puppies), and now that my household has returned to normal, and my
MS appears to be trying to rear it's ugly head, my CS/CG generator is now
being fired up again.  I will let you know if I ever produce consistent
color results.
BTW, I use 1 gold electrode, obtained from CC Silver, "QTY: 260  GFP18a-H
Gold Fine .999+ Wire GA: 18, Qty=Hundredths ($19.95/dwt)   $0.20".  In Nov.
2002, it cost $59.87 (delivered) for 2 approx.. 5" pieces. (I make 2 116oz.
batches at a time with my PS50).
Please...no detailed technical questionsI merely followed directions
from Marc Petersen at Pride Comm., and it worked.
Jannette

Trem wrote:
  "...I'm of the opinion that CG cannot be made using LVDC even though there
are
 some who claim they can do so.  My questions to all of those who say they
 can do it is thisdoes the gold deteriorate and what is the color of the
 CG.  I have not heard anyone say the CG was a violet or red color as I
 believe it must be if there is in fact any gold in the water.  I also
 haven't heard anyone say the electrodes deteriorate when they make what
they
 call CG that is colorless.  I think they are deluding themselves.

 Trem  "






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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Ode Coyote]

 I ordered some zinc electrodes from him but couldn't make any appreciable colloid with them. After hours and hours, I ony got a 3 uS conductivity rise with copper, plus some grey green fallout and no TE at all.
Same with zinc..except the fallout was a different color.


>>>>
>>>>
The GoldAg electrode is 90% .999 fine gold and 10% .999 fine silver. This new alloy will allow the CGS unit to produce higher concentrations of colloidal gold.
<<<<
Perhaps the silver content allows to gold to piggyback itself into the water?

Ode
>>>>

At 08:12 AM 8/28/2003 -0700, you wrote:
>I've wondered too.  Say he uses only one gold electrode so it must be using
>DC.
>
>Anyone out there with one of their machines?
>
>Trem
>
>- Original Message -----
>From: "akaJhon" 
>To: 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:45 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold
>
>
>> Anyone know about this G/G ??
>>
>> http://colloidalsilvergens.com/colloidal_silver_generator_store.htm
>>
>> | Hi TJ,
>> |
>> | I've been drinking it for several weeks.  No twitches or anything out of
>> the
>> |
>>
>>
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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[akaJhon]

Got one,,


- Original Message - 
From: "Trem" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold


| I've wondered too.  Say he uses only one gold electrode so it must be
using
| DC.
|
| Anyone out there with one of their machines?
|
| Trem
|
| - Original Message -
| From: "akaJhon" 
| To: 
| Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:45 PM
| Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold
|
|
| > Anyone know about this G/G ??
| >
| > http://colloidalsilvergens.com/colloidal_silver_generator_store.htm
| >
| > | Hi TJ,
| > |
| > | I've been drinking it for several weeks.  No twitches or anything out
of
| > the
| > |
| >
| >
| > --
| > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver.
| >
| > Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org
| >
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| >
| > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html
| >
| > List maintainer: Mike Devour 
| >
|

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Trem]

I've wondered too.  Say he uses only one gold electrode so it must be using
DC.

Anyone out there with one of their machines?

Trem

- Original Message -
From: "akaJhon" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Colloidal gold


> Anyone know about this G/G ??
>
> http://colloidalsilvergens.com/colloidal_silver_generator_store.htm
>
> | Hi TJ,
> |
> | I've been drinking it for several weeks.  No twitches or anything out of
> the
> |
>
>
> --
> The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver.
>
> Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org
>
> To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com
>
> Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html
>
> List maintainer: Mike Devour 
>

Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[akaJhon]

Anyone know about this G/G ??

http://colloidalsilvergens.com/colloidal_silver_generator_store.htm

| Hi TJ,
|
| I've been drinking it for several weeks.  No twitches or anything out of
the
|


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Re: CS>Colloidal gold

[Robert Berger]

Hi TJ,

Yes the colloidal gold is safe to use. When I first started it was with CG from
Chip Holye about 3 ppm, and it help my wife and my knees for about 4 weeks. Then
Frank sent some Mesogold 8-10 ppm, and in 3 days we were back to square one.

Since then nothing would work for our knees. I have no idea why.

"Ole Bob"




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