RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator

2006-12-07 Thread Peter M. Stellas
Allow me to add my 2 cents on t his. Overt the past two months that I have
participated on this forum, the information that I have received has been
approximately as follows:

99% toward my building my own CS generator.
1% advertisement toward my purchasing a ready-made generator. 

I certainly appreciate the willingness of these product vendors to share
their information, particularly when such information reduces the chance
that they will sell me a unit.

Peter
 

 


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RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator

2006-12-04 Thread Dan Nave
 
Tel Tofflemire [mailto:telt...@yahoo.com] wrote:
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator

Nice commercial, seems to be the only one we ever see?
We all know there are dozens of CS generators on the market, and Silver
Puppy is near the bottom for value and production. I sent one back !
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I recently asked Terry Chamberlin to characterize his 10 gallon per hour
silver maker for the list.  
He refused to do so indicating that the unit was for sale.  

I don't understand this since if something is for sale, one normally
disseminates some information about it regarding it's general
principles, how it works, what is involved in the setup, what it's
limits and parameters are, information generally supporting the claims
of the seller, etc. 

One wouldn't be expected to buy a "pig in a poke," would one?

Perhaps the reason you see more about the silver puppy is that a lot of
people are asking about it, 
and also that Ken/Ode is willing to disclose information about it.

Regarding the production amount...

Would you say that the Walgreens personal humidifier that many use is at
the bottom for volume and production since it puts out much less
humidity than the ultrasonic pond fogger mentioned recently?  Probably
you would.  However, specific devices have specific attributes and may
be suitable for different markets.  I could name the attributes that
make the silver puppy unique and desirable for some users.  

Dan


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Re: CS>Silver Puppy generator

2006-12-03 Thread M. G. Devour
Okay! I hope Ted and Tel have both vented their ire and will refrain 
from further sniping. Let's let things drop, gents.

Mike Devour
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> 
> --- Ted Corbett  wrote:
> 
> > He's one of the few that care and is willing to go
> > the extra mile to help
> > folks
> > out. And yes I have a silver puppy (Ole Bob) that is
> > still runnin
> > fine. When I bought the unit
> > I requested an extra set of electrodes which he gave
> > to me for free because
> > I was military
> > at the time. The reason you probably sent it back is
> > because you weren't
> > smart enough to
> > operate it!!
> > T. Corbett
> > Germany
> 
>Dear Ted Corbett
> I do not claim to be smart, But since your from
> Germany you may have heard of the Great Dr.H.R. Clark
> ?
> I worked for her for many years, I know her protocol,
> I know all her methods,read all her books, have most
> of her electronic medicial equeptment, and know how to
> use it.  I brought Colloidal Silver to her attention,
> and she tested it and is credited for many lab test
> results that favor CS.
> No I do not claim to be smart TED, but I do claim to
> NOT be a smart aleck , welcome to the list.
> 
> Tel Tofflemire
> Dewey, AZ.
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Silver Puppy generator

2006-12-03 Thread Tel Tofflemire

--- Ted Corbett  wrote:

> He's one of the few that care and is willing to go
> the extra mile to help
> folks
> out. And yes I have a silver puppy (Ole Bob) that is
> still runnin
> fine. When I bought the unit
> I requested an extra set of electrodes which he gave
> to me for free because
> I was military
> at the time. The reason you probably sent it back is
> because you weren't
> smart enough to
> operate it!!
> T. Corbett
> Germany

   Dear Ted Corbett
I do not claim to be smart, But since your from
Germany you may have heard of the Great Dr.H.R. Clark
?
I worked for her for many years, I know her protocol,
I know all her methods,read all her books, have most
of her electronic medicial equeptment, and know how to
use it.  I brought Colloidal Silver to her attention,
and she tested it and is credited for many lab test
results that favor CS.
No I do not claim to be smart TED, but I do claim to
NOT be a smart aleck , welcome to the list.

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.


 

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Re: CS>Silver Puppy generator

2006-12-03 Thread Ted Corbett

He's one of the few that care and is willing to go the extra mile to help
folks
out. And yes I have a silver puppy (Ole Bob) that is still runnin
fine. When I bought the unit
I requested an extra set of electrodes which he gave to me for free because
I was military
at the time. The reason you probably sent it back is because you weren't
smart enough to
operate it!!
T. Corbett
Germany

On 12/3/06, Tel Tofflemire  wrote:


Nice commercial, seems to be the only one we ever see?
We all know there are dozens of CS generators on the
market, and Silver Puppy is near the bottom for value
and production. I sent one back !




--- Todd Paddock  wrote:

> Thanks Ode,
> I did pretty much understand, but could have not
> expressed it nearly as
> well.
> Thanks Todd
>
>
> >From: Ode Coyote 
> >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
> >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:00:59 -0500
> >
> >   OK  Biting:
> >
> >  The Pups have a number of modes available,
> accessed by operating two
> >switches.
> Bla Bla Bla... hype hype...and so on.

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.





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RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator

2006-12-02 Thread Tel Tofflemire
Nice commercial, seems to be the only one we ever see?
We all know there are dozens of CS generators on the
market, and Silver Puppy is near the bottom for value
and production. I sent one back !




--- Todd Paddock  wrote:

> Thanks Ode,
> I did pretty much understand, but could have not
> expressed it nearly as 
> well.
> Thanks Todd
> 
> 
> >From: Ode Coyote 
> >Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> >Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
> >Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:00:59 -0500
> >
> >   OK  Biting:
> >
> >  The Pups have a number of modes available,
> accessed by operating two 
> >switches.
> Bla Bla Bla... hype hype...and so on.

Tel Tofflemire
Dewey, AZ.


 

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RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator

2006-12-02 Thread ruth strackbein
Thanks, Ode.  I feel much better informed about the silver puppy.  Know it 
is important to make my decision soon because of the political aspects.  
Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: Ode Coyote 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:00:59 -0500

  OK  Biting:

 The Pups have a number of modes available, accessed by operating two 
switches.


1] DC output mode.  [Straight conventional current controlled DC output.]
 Advantages: Works faster, enhances unstable properties of very fresh CS 
that may have antioxidant and oxygenating effects through free hydroxyl 
anions [Alkaline water?] and enhanced germ killing with free silver ions 
there 'before ' they find each other and form stabilized CS [EIS]
 Disadvantages:  More electrode deposits that 'can' grow over time and 
make a feedback loop that throws auto off..off. Very large batches take a 
long time and those problems are accentuated, sometimes needing an 
electrode wipe off.


2] SWAP output mode [Square Wave Alternating Polarity current controlled 
output]  Same as DC mode except the electrodes electronically switch 
positions every 1 1/2 minutes.
 Advantages:  Eliminates electrode crud buildup.  Enables a higher 
probability that very high PPM batches will be successful and nice.
 Disadvantages:  Takes longer to get to the same place and time is 
somewhat less predictable.
Also tends to make more highly particulate EIS..good if you like a strong 
TE, not so good if you don't...and the EIS is slightly more stable at 
finish.


Note:  Using the funnel thingie as a stir enhancer [chimney] on the Thermal 
stirrers, stabilizes the EIS as it's being made.  Good/Bad ?  A matter of 
personal opinion.  It does come out stronger at the Auto Off conductivity 
setting.  Conductivity and PPM are not quite the same things all the time.


3] Auto off mode [Works in both DC and SWAP output modes] References 
voltage on the electrodes with the conductivity of the water and the 
generator turns itself off at a given "PPM" [actually a given conductivity] 
Also gives a reference point from which to use a timer to predict PPM in 
higher than Auto Off regulated batches. [The Auto Off setting is hard wired 
for reliability and not user adjustable.  If you want weaker EIS, stop 
sooner or dilute it afterwards]


4] Manual mode [Bypasses the Auto off circuits telling the generator to 
ignore the turn off command ]   Used to make EIS as strong as you like or 
use "bad" water in a pinch.


Input:  Virtually any power source between 10 and 30 volts, AC or DC will 
work and the EIS comes out the same.  You'd be hard pressed to not be able 
to make CS if any electricity at all is available.  Even very low voltages 
will make EIS, but the auto off won't work if the output voltage is lower 
than the turn off reference voltage. [It turns itself off and manual mode 
must be used]


 Differences in prices between any generator makers have little to do with 
function and product quality.


Ode



At 04:01 PM 11/29/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Sorry just a typo.  I've been very happy with my puppy but had better let 
Ode explain the difference in settings.

Todd



From: "ruth strackbein" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:02:07 -0600

Hi, What do you mean by the eDC mode?  I am thinking of buying a silver 
puppy, but am back and forth between the less expensive puppy and the 
silvergen.  Would this mean a difference in electricity use?  Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein




From: "Todd Paddock" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:00:54 -0500

Nancy
Hi got Mine about a month ago and yes it seems like the swap setting can 
take about
t10 hours dependng on your water quality. In th eDC mode it goes about 
5-6 hours.  I"m using "Taladwada Distilled water (steam distilled). But 
other than that I seem to be having great results.

Todd



From: 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:04:10 -0500

I received the Silver Puppy generator yesterday, got it set but after 7 
hours it was still running so I turned it off.  Is this normal?  It was 
set on SWAP- Auto.  I tried to email Ode but guess he is busy.

Thanks,
Nancy...


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RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator

2006-11-30 Thread Todd Paddock

Thanks Ode,
I did pretty much understand, but could have not expressed it nearly as 
well.

Thanks Todd



From: Ode Coyote 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 08:00:59 -0500

  OK  Biting:

 The Pups have a number of modes available, accessed by operating two 
switches.


1] DC output mode.  [Straight conventional current controlled DC output.]
 Advantages: Works faster, enhances unstable properties of very fresh CS 
that may have antioxidant and oxygenating effects through free hydroxyl 
anions [Alkaline water?] and enhanced germ killing with free silver ions 
there 'before ' they find each other and form stabilized CS [EIS]
 Disadvantages:  More electrode deposits that 'can' grow over time and 
make a feedback loop that throws auto off..off. Very large batches take a 
long time and those problems are accentuated, sometimes needing an 
electrode wipe off.


2] SWAP output mode [Square Wave Alternating Polarity current controlled 
output]  Same as DC mode except the electrodes electronically switch 
positions every 1 1/2 minutes.
 Advantages:  Eliminates electrode crud buildup.  Enables a higher 
probability that very high PPM batches will be successful and nice.
 Disadvantages:  Takes longer to get to the same place and time is 
somewhat less predictable.
Also tends to make more highly particulate EIS..good if you like a strong 
TE, not so good if you don't...and the EIS is slightly more stable at 
finish.


Note:  Using the funnel thingie as a stir enhancer [chimney] on the Thermal 
stirrers, stabilizes the EIS as it's being made.  Good/Bad ?  A matter of 
personal opinion.  It does come out stronger at the Auto Off conductivity 
setting.  Conductivity and PPM are not quite the same things all the time.


3] Auto off mode [Works in both DC and SWAP output modes] References 
voltage on the electrodes with the conductivity of the water and the 
generator turns itself off at a given "PPM" [actually a given conductivity] 
Also gives a reference point from which to use a timer to predict PPM in 
higher than Auto Off regulated batches. [The Auto Off setting is hard wired 
for reliability and not user adjustable.  If you want weaker EIS, stop 
sooner or dilute it afterwards]


4] Manual mode [Bypasses the Auto off circuits telling the generator to 
ignore the turn off command ]   Used to make EIS as strong as you like or 
use "bad" water in a pinch.


Input:  Virtually any power source between 10 and 30 volts, AC or DC will 
work and the EIS comes out the same.  You'd be hard pressed to not be able 
to make CS if any electricity at all is available.  Even very low voltages 
will make EIS, but the auto off won't work if the output voltage is lower 
than the turn off reference voltage. [It turns itself off and manual mode 
must be used]


 Differences in prices between any generator makers have little to do with 
function and product quality.


Ode



At 04:01 PM 11/29/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Sorry just a typo.  I've been very happy with my puppy but had better let 
Ode explain the difference in settings.

Todd



From: "ruth strackbein" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:02:07 -0600

Hi, What do you mean by the eDC mode?  I am thinking of buying a silver 
puppy, but am back and forth between the less expensive puppy and the 
silvergen.  Would this mean a difference in electricity use?  Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein




From: "Todd Paddock" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:00:54 -0500

Nancy
Hi got Mine about a month ago and yes it seems like the swap setting can 
take about
t10 hours dependng on your water quality. In th eDC mode it goes about 
5-6 hours.  I"m using "Taladwada Distilled water (steam distilled). But 
other than that I seem to be having great results.

Todd



From: 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:04:10 -0500

I received the Silver Puppy generator yesterday, got it set but after 7 
hours it was still running so I turned it off.  Is this normal?  It was 
set on SWAP- Auto.  I tried to email Ode but guess he is busy.

Thanks,
Nancy...


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RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator

2006-11-30 Thread Ode Coyote

  OK  Biting:

 The Pups have a number of modes available, accessed by operating two 
switches.


1] DC output mode.  [Straight conventional current controlled DC output.]
 Advantages: Works faster, enhances unstable properties of very fresh CS 
that may have antioxidant and oxygenating effects through free hydroxyl 
anions [Alkaline water?] and enhanced germ killing with free silver ions 
there 'before ' they find each other and form stabilized CS [EIS]
 Disadvantages:  More electrode deposits that 'can' grow over time and 
make a feedback loop that throws auto off..off. Very large batches take a 
long time and those problems are accentuated, sometimes needing an 
electrode wipe off.


2] SWAP output mode [Square Wave Alternating Polarity current controlled 
output]  Same as DC mode except the electrodes electronically switch 
positions every 1 1/2 minutes.
 Advantages:  Eliminates electrode crud buildup.  Enables a higher 
probability that very high PPM batches will be successful and nice.
 Disadvantages:  Takes longer to get to the same place and time is 
somewhat less predictable.
Also tends to make more highly particulate EIS..good if you like a strong 
TE, not so good if you don't...and the EIS is slightly more stable at finish.


Note:  Using the funnel thingie as a stir enhancer [chimney] on the Thermal 
stirrers, stabilizes the EIS as it's being made.  Good/Bad ?  A matter of 
personal opinion.  It does come out stronger at the Auto Off conductivity 
setting.  Conductivity and PPM are not quite the same things all the time.


3] Auto off mode [Works in both DC and SWAP output modes] References 
voltage on the electrodes with the conductivity of the water and the 
generator turns itself off at a given "PPM" [actually a given conductivity] 
Also gives a reference point from which to use a timer to predict PPM in 
higher than Auto Off regulated batches. [The Auto Off setting is hard wired 
for reliability and not user adjustable.  If you want weaker EIS, stop 
sooner or dilute it afterwards]


4] Manual mode [Bypasses the Auto off circuits telling the generator to 
ignore the turn off command ]   Used to make EIS as strong as you like or 
use "bad" water in a pinch.


Input:  Virtually any power source between 10 and 30 volts, AC or DC will 
work and the EIS comes out the same.  You'd be hard pressed to not be able 
to make CS if any electricity at all is available.  Even very low voltages 
will make EIS, but the auto off won't work if the output voltage is lower 
than the turn off reference voltage. [It turns itself off and manual mode 
must be used]


 Differences in prices between any generator makers have little to do with 
function and product quality.


Ode



At 04:01 PM 11/29/2006 -0500, you wrote:

Sorry just a typo.  I've been very happy with my puppy but had better let 
Ode explain the difference in settings.

Todd



From: "ruth strackbein" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:02:07 -0600

Hi, What do you mean by the eDC mode?  I am thinking of buying a silver 
puppy, but am back and forth between the less expensive puppy and the 
silvergen.  Would this mean a difference in electricity use?  Ruth

From Ruth Strackbein




From: "Todd Paddock" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:00:54 -0500

Nancy
Hi got Mine about a month ago and yes it seems like the swap setting can 
take about
t10 hours dependng on your water quality. In th eDC mode it goes about 
5-6 hours.  I"m using "Taladwada Distilled water (steam distilled). But 
other than that I seem to be having great results.

Todd



From: 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:04:10 -0500

I received the Silver Puppy generator yesterday, got it set but after 7 
hours it was still running so I turned it off.  Is this normal?  It was 
set on SWAP- Auto.  I tried to email Ode but guess he is busy.

Thanks,
Nancy...


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RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator

2006-11-29 Thread Todd Paddock
Sorry just a typo.  I've been very happy with my puppy but had better let 
Ode explain the difference in settings.

Todd



From: "ruth strackbein" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:02:07 -0600

Hi, What do you mean by the eDC mode?  I am thinking of buying a silver 
puppy, but am back and forth between the less expensive puppy and the 
silvergen.  Would this mean a difference in electricity use?  Ruth


From Ruth Strackbein



From: "Todd Paddock" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:00:54 -0500

Nancy
Hi got Mine about a month ago and yes it seems like the swap setting can 
take about
t10 hours dependng on your water quality. In th eDC mode it goes about 5-6 
hours.  I"m using "Taladwada Distilled water (steam distilled). But other 
than that I seem to be having great results.

Todd



From: 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:04:10 -0500

I received the Silver Puppy generator yesterday, got it set but after 7 
hours it was still running so I turned it off.  Is this normal?  It was 
set on SWAP- Auto.  I tried to email Ode but guess he is busy.

Thanks,
Nancy...


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RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator

2006-11-29 Thread ruth strackbein
Hi, What do you mean by the eDC mode?  I am thinking of buying a silver 
puppy, but am back and forth between the less expensive puppy and the 
silvergen.  Would this mean a difference in electricity use?  Ruth



From Ruth Strackbein




From: "Todd Paddock" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 18:00:54 -0500

Nancy
Hi got Mine about a month ago and yes it seems like the swap setting can 
take about
t10 hours dependng on your water quality. In th eDC mode it goes about 5-6 
hours.  I"m using "Taladwada Distilled water (steam distilled). But other 
than that I seem to be having great results.

Todd



From: 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: 
Subject: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:04:10 -0500

I received the Silver Puppy generator yesterday, got it set but after 7 
hours it was still running so I turned it off.  Is this normal?  It was 
set on SWAP- Auto.  I tried to email Ode but guess he is busy.

Thanks,
Nancy...


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Re: CS>Silver Puppy generator

2006-11-29 Thread Ode Coyote



 7 hours is a bit long for a pint batch  but not unheard of.
 7 hours would be short for a quart.
 If the water is really good, it takes much longer than if the water is 
marginal.


Not to worry, go to bed.  ;-)

Ode


At 10:04 AM 11/28/2006 -0500, you wrote:

I received the Silver Puppy generator yesterday, got it set but after 7 
hours it was still running so I turned it off.  Is this normal?  It was 
set on SWAP- Auto.  I tried to email Ode but guess he is busy.

Thanks,
Nancy...

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Re: CS>Silver Puppy generator

2006-11-28 Thread dblack

Todd, thanks, I will try it on DC mode.
Nancy...


Nancy
Hi got Mine about a month ago and yes it seems like the swap setting can 
take about
t10 hours dependng on your water quality. In th eDC mode it goes about 5-6 
hours.  I"m using "Taladwada Distilled water (steam distilled). But other 
than that I seem to be having great results.

Todd





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RE: CS>Silver Puppy generator

2006-11-28 Thread Todd Paddock

Nancy
Hi got Mine about a month ago and yes it seems like the swap setting can 
take about
t10 hours dependng on your water quality. In th eDC mode it goes about 5-6 
hours.  I"m using "Taladwada Distilled water (steam distilled). But other 
than that I seem to be having great results.

Todd



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Subject: CS>Silver Puppy generator
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 10:04:10 -0500

I received the Silver Puppy generator yesterday, got it set but after 7 
hours it was still running so I turned it off.  Is this normal?  It was set 
on SWAP- Auto.  I tried to email Ode but guess he is busy.

Thanks,
Nancy...


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