Re: CS>Silver electrodes
The difference is swamped out with every single breath or bite of food you take. ..about two parts per billion copper. .9997 compared to .2 @ 10 - 20 PPM of water...assuming the water is that pure. [it generally isn't] ode At 07:54 PM 9/5/2009 -0700, you wrote: What is the difference in CS solution produced using 99.9% and 99.99% silver electrodes? Thanks. Melly -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver electrodes
99.9% silver is guaranteed to assay to AT LEAST that. It COULD be even purer. 99.99% will be more expensive because of the higher assay. 99.9 is pure enough for our use. Chuck When theres no problem,you've overlooked something On 9/5/2009 10:54:15 PM, Melly Bag (tita_...@yahoo.com) wrote: > What is the difference in CS solution produced using 99.9% and 99.99% > silver electrodes? Thanks. > > Melly > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.79/2348 - Release Date: 09/05/09 17:50:00
RE: CS>Silver electrodes
Not a lot, just a little more pure that's all, the impurities are so negligible in 99.9 that after ingestion of EIS they pale into insignificance in the scheme of things, as someone else stated on here some time ago...there will in all probability be more 'impurities' in the water used which will have any appreciable effect than the purity percentage of silver, anything from 99.9% (3 nine) and purer is acceptable. Relax, as long as the silver is 3 nine or higher in purity you are good. N. > Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 19:54:15 -0700 > From: tita_...@yahoo.com > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>Silver electrodes > > What is the difference in CS solution produced using 99.9% and 99.99% silver > electrodes? Thanks. > > Melly > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > _ Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox Find out how here http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=823454
Re: CS>Silver electrodes
Momentary contact with metal makes no real difference. Long term contact may eventually plate the silver out of the water. Ode At 08:04 PM 11/7/2006 +0100, you wrote: Stainless spoon no no Carlos...a plastic spoon for to take your Silverwater...REMEMBER...no metal. Trudy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.31/522 - Release Date: 11/7/2006 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.31/522 - Release Date: 11/7/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.13.31/522 - Release Date: 11/7/2006
RE: CS>Silver electrodes
I wrote: > What are the approximate dimensions of this large ingot? Oops! Never mind. I see you answered this already! Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Silver electrodes
Oh Lordy! I realize now why that's so funny... 250 g... that's something like 8 ounces, 1/2 pound... You're quite right. That is *MUCH* bigger than I was visualizing. Okay, you *may* want to have it re-cast, or maybe just rolled into a slab or sheet? A rolling mill might be easier to clean in preparation for the forming operation. What are the approximate dimensions of this large ingot? Thank you, Carlos. You made me laugh as well! Mike D. > Mike, > > You really made me laugh!! > > I could see myself with a fireman's hose, giving the silver initiation > to a croud passing in front of me, at one of the main avenues in > Margarita Island!!! I am sure I would immediately be in the Guinness > Book of Records!. > > Now all I have to do is to get myself a mega alligator clip and start > experimenting. Maybe in a small size swimming pool I could be exercising > and stirring at the same time. > > I think I will make my first experiment this afternoon, but I will use a > gallon jar instead of the swimming pool. For the cathode, I will try a > huge kitchen stainless spoon I have that probably weights about the same > as my brand new almost half a pound anode. I will keep you informed. > > Oh, boy, this is getting exciting!! > > Carlos [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Silver electrodes
Hello, Mike, Here is the report of my first batch made with my 250 gram Mega-Anode: I got a glass jar with a very wide mouth (11.5 cm, almost as large as the inside diameter), put over the to a couple of japanese eating sticks, hanged a kitchen cheap stainless steel tablespoon with a large, almost circular end on one side, two centimeters away from the glass wall, and hanged the silver ingot from two laundry clothes pins, made of plastic covered steel, on the other side, equally separated from the glass wall 2 cm. The distance between electrodes was 7.5 cm free space. One clothes pin is enough to hold the ingot, but I used two because if it falls to the bottom, the glass explodes. I also considered putting a round plastic container cap in the bottom of the jar as another security option, but liked this one better (and is cleaner). I stripped the ends of a short piece of electric wire and put one end held between the clip and the ingot, and the other one held by the anode alligator clip. I used 150 ml of a previous batch as a starter, and added 1100 ml of the steam bi-distilled water that has given me excellent results. I let it run for a total of four hours, taking written note of voltage and milliamperes changes every ten minutes. After 1.5 hours, the spoon (cathode) showed a thin milky looking smooth covering. I purposedly did not do any cleaning or any stirring at any moment along the process. The initial voltage was 18.3 V, the initial amperage was 0.45 mA. The final voltage was 16.5V, and the final amperage was 3.7 mA. There was no beard formed on the cathode, nor any drifting fumes or falling residues visible at any time, except half a dozen tiny silvery flakes floating. There were very few tiny hydrogen bubbles around the edge of the submerged round part of the spoon. The ingot is aproximately 58mm by 34 mm by 12 mm, and 44 mm were inside the water and 14 outside with the clips and wire attached. The 1.25 liters batch turned out absolutely crystal clear, no yellow, no residues. Putting the figures in Herxs Faraday Calculator they gave aproximately 22 ppm. This experience made me very happy, because it seems I can leave a large enough batch running unattended for 3 or 4 hours and do many things in the meantime, with more than satisfactory results. I will make another batch in one or two days and compare results. Than you, Mike, and also to Mark Siepak, for suggesting the ingot anode!! Carlos From: "Carlos Pérez" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Silver electrodes Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 14:13:06 -0400 Mike, You really made me laugh!! I could see myself with a fireman's hose, giving the silver initiation to a croud passing in front of me, at one of the main avenues in Margarita Island!!! I am sure I would immediately be in the Guinness Book of Records!. Now all I have to do is to get myself a mega alligator clip and start experimenting. Maybe in a small size swimming pool I could be exercising and stirring at the same time. I think I will make my first experiment this afternoon, but I will use a gallon jar instead of the swimming pool. For the cathode, I will try a huge kitchen stainless spoon I have that probably weights about the same as my brand new almost half a pound anode. I will keep you informed. Oh, boy, this is getting exciting!! Carlos From: "M. G. Devour" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Silver electrodes Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:58:45 -5 Carlos writes: > I got a Swiss Certified 99.9 Fine Silver 250 gram ingot, and I want to > have it melted and laminated into 8, 10 and 12 gauge (3.264, 2.588 and > 2.053 mm ø) but I have to make I find a jeweler that can do this without > contaminating the silver with other metals (mostly gold alloys) they > normally process. I I think you have your electrode already in hand, Carlos. No need to make it into wires, just use the ingot! Arrange things so the clip you use to hold the ingot stays out of the water. Flip it end for end in the clip every few batches to even out wear. The thing should last you a lifetime, unless you're supplying the whole island! Calculated crudely, that ingot should be good for 25000 liters of 10 ppm CS. Enough to drown in many times over... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour __
Re: CS>Silver electrodes
Stainless spoon no no Carlos...a plastic spoon for to take your Silverwater...REMEMBER...no metal. Trudy -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Silver electrodes
Mike, You really made me laugh!! I could see myself with a fireman's hose, giving the silver initiation to a croud passing in front of me, at one of the main avenues in Margarita Island!!! I am sure I would immediately be in the Guinness Book of Records!. Now all I have to do is to get myself a mega alligator clip and start experimenting. Maybe in a small size swimming pool I could be exercising and stirring at the same time. I think I will make my first experiment this afternoon, but I will use a gallon jar instead of the swimming pool. For the cathode, I will try a huge kitchen stainless spoon I have that probably weights about the same as my brand new almost half a pound anode. I will keep you informed. Oh, boy, this is getting exciting!! Carlos From: "M. G. Devour" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>Silver electrodes Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 11:58:45 -5 Carlos writes: > I got a Swiss Certified 99.9 Fine Silver 250 gram ingot, and I want to > have it melted and laminated into 8, 10 and 12 gauge (3.264, 2.588 and > 2.053 mm ø) but I have to make I find a jeweler that can do this without > contaminating the silver with other metals (mostly gold alloys) they > normally process. I I think you have your electrode already in hand, Carlos. No need to make it into wires, just use the ingot! Arrange things so the clip you use to hold the ingot stays out of the water. Flip it end for end in the clip every few batches to even out wear. The thing should last you a lifetime, unless you're supplying the whole island! Calculated crudely, that ingot should be good for 25000 liters of 10 ppm CS. Enough to drown in many times over... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
RE: CS>Silver electrodes
Carlos writes: > I got a Swiss Certified 99.9 Fine Silver 250 gram ingot, and I want to > have it melted and laminated into 8, 10 and 12 gauge (3.264, 2.588 and > 2.053 mm ø) but I have to make I find a jeweler that can do this without > contaminating the silver with other metals (mostly gold alloys) they > normally process. I I think you have your electrode already in hand, Carlos. No need to make it into wires, just use the ingot! Arrange things so the clip you use to hold the ingot stays out of the water. Flip it end for end in the clip every few batches to even out wear. The thing should last you a lifetime, unless you're supplying the whole island! Calculated crudely, that ingot should be good for 25000 liters of 10 ppm CS. Enough to drown in many times over... Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>Silver electrodes
Thank you,Terry, for your reply. I got a Swiss Certified 99.9 Fine Silver 250 gram ingot, and I want to have it melted and laminated into 8, 10 and 12 gauge (3.264, 2.588 and 2.053 mm ø) but I have to make I find a jeweler that can do this without contaminating the silver with other metals (mostly gold alloys) they normally process. I have not found so far any other source of trustable fine silver. The jewelers normally use below 99.0. I found one that could get me 99.5. As you know, with the great help you and other friends in the list heve been giving me, I am making in my second provisional generator a good quality EIS, cristal clear, no residues at all, around 14-15 ppm average, but the batches are only 500 ml and I have to spend more than one hour stirring and cleaning twice the electrodes along the process, checking the miliamperimeter and the voltmeter to be sure I have a convenient flow of current all this time, my original generator substituted by a new one I built with the circuit John McLean sent me, plus a good computer 24 volt transformer a friend gave me. In order to produce larger batches maintaining the good quality I am producing and in a more efficient, less time and effort consuming way, I need larger electrode area (the wires I am using now are only ø0.8 mm!!), adequately spaced, in a large enough container, and this is the reason why I am trying to obtain the proper electrodes to do it. Thank you again. Carlos From: Terry Chamberlin Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>Silver electrodes Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 08:11:50 -0500 (EST) Carlos, It doesn't matter what gauge or size silver wire or rod you use, so long as it is 99.9%+ Fine silver. Some folks here like wires, some like flat strips, some like coins, but you will make good CS with any of them. The larger/thicker the silver electrode, the longer it lasts before it completely dissolves. There are jewelers in every country of the world, and they can get you Fine silver. After that, you can assemble a device with batteries or an AC/DC adapter. You only actually need onhe silver wire/rod/coin, etc., the other one can be any metal that conducts electricity. Connect the silver electrode to the positive side, the other to the negative side. Terry __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
## To clear up the plateout issue. Plateout is possible even if the electrodes don't touch the glass. When a generator is run without using any stirring mechanism, be it mechanical or thermal, small amounts of oxides and so on become deposited on the bottom. This fallout follows a conductive pathway that is continually becoming established between the electrodes. As the generator runs and deposits more and more, this conductive pathway along the glass bottom 'grabs' more of the current. As the concentration of silver increases..while following this path, it has less tendency to stay suspended in the water and more tendency to want to plate onto the other electrode, BUT, it is now seeing the other electrode as this conductive pathway. To prevent this from happening, simply interrupt the path now and then by gentle stirring [thermal or mechanical] or moving the electrodes around a few degrees every few minutes. Plate out hasn't been much of a problem at concentrations under 12 PPM and almost never happens when using warm water [it cools, producing thermal currents], warming the water while in process [thermal currents disrupt the ion path] or stirring the water in process.[ion path disrupted mechanically] The one thing to not do is to stir the CS after it is done and before decanting into another container...that is...after deposits have formed. I am coming to believe that stirring hydrates the silver ions, thus protecting them from the presence of oxygen, preventing significant formation of oxides in the first place. Have I understood this properly? Testing bears out the result. Could vigorously stirring the CS in a clean container before storing prevent clear CS from turning yellow after several hours or days? Ken 02:50 PM 6/4/00 -0700, you wrote: I use a vision ware pot and the electrodes touch the bottom, I have used this same pot for the past four years, the meter I use for testing PPM shows between 4 to 6 PPM each time, so I cannot agree with the following statement. Blessings Ted Trem wrote: > Hi List, > > There can be a downside to letting electrodes touch the glass. It can > plate out onto the glass and the next time you use the vessel, the plating > can allow some of the current to flow from the electrodes to the plated > portions which will then provide a current path and that will reduce the > current flow between the electrodes. The result is you won't get as strong > CS as you had thought. Best to clean the plating off the glass before > using the vessel again or use a new one every once in a while. > > You can clean the plating off your vessel with 3% hydrogen peroxide. > > Trem > www.silvergen.com > > At 01:50 PM 6/4/00 -0400, you wrote: > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Nina Silver, Ph.D." > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 11:51 AM > >Subject: Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom > > > > > > > > > > People, > > > No one has yet answered WHY it is necessary to prevent the electrodes from > > > touching the sides or the bottom. To reiterate, My electrodes touch the > > > sides of the pyrex glass container in which I make my CS, and the silver > > > comes out just fine. > > > > > > Nina > >] > > There is, or should be no effect from electrodes touching the bottom of the > >container as long as > > the container is glass or plastic and is non-conductive. With your pyrex > >container, it is totally > > a non-issue! > > > >BillB > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > > > Tired of buying questionable qaulity colloidal silver at high heathfood store prices? Make your own high quality Colloidal Silver at home with this automatic process, current controlled colloidal silver generator. http://www.silverpuppy.com
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Hi Ted, Well what I actually meant to say was it could plate out on the sides of the vessel if the electrodes lay against the glass or are near it. It has sometimes caused me a bit of confusion when the CS wasn't as strong as I had thought it should be. I really don't know about the conductivity of the stuff that falls to the bottom of the vessel. Our electrodes are an inch or so off the bottom so plating doesn't occur there very often. It is mostly on the sides and for sure that can influence current flow. As far as the vessel you're using, it might be that no plating occurs because of its smoothness or something I'm not aware of. But it will definitely plate onto glass. I have seen it many times. Usually under long process times. Trem www.silvergen.com -0700, you wrote: I use a vision ware pot and the electrodes touch the bottom, I have used this same pot for the past four years, the meter I use for testing PPM shows between 4 to 6 PPM each time, so I cannot agree with the following statement. Blessings Ted Trem wrote: > Hi List, > > There can be a downside to letting electrodes touch the glass. It can > plate out onto the glass and the next time you use the vessel, the plating > can allow some of the current to flow from the electrodes to the plated > portions which will then provide a current path and that will reduce the > current flow between the electrodes. The result is you won't get as strong > CS as you had thought. Best to clean the plating off the glass before > using the vessel again or use a new one every once in a while. > > You can clean the plating off your vessel with 3% hydrogen peroxide. > > Trem > www.silvergen.com > > At 01:50 PM 6/4/00 -0400, you wrote: > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Nina Silver, Ph.D." > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 11:51 AM > >Subject: Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom > > > > > > > > > > People, > > > No one has yet answered WHY it is necessary to prevent the electrodes from > > > touching the sides or the bottom. To reiterate, My electrodes touch the > > > sides of the pyrex glass container in which I make my CS, and the silver > > > comes out just fine. > > > > > > Nina > >] > > There is, or should be no effect from electrodes touching the bottom of the > >container as long as > > the container is glass or plastic and is non-conductive. With your pyrex > >container, it is totally > > a non-issue! > > > >BillB > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > > >
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
I use a vision ware pot and the electrodes touch the bottom, I have used this same pot for the past four years, the meter I use for testing PPM shows between 4 to 6 PPM each time, so I cannot agree with the following statement. Blessings Ted Trem wrote: > Hi List, > > There can be a downside to letting electrodes touch the glass. It can > plate out onto the glass and the next time you use the vessel, the plating > can allow some of the current to flow from the electrodes to the plated > portions which will then provide a current path and that will reduce the > current flow between the electrodes. The result is you won't get as strong > CS as you had thought. Best to clean the plating off the glass before > using the vessel again or use a new one every once in a while. > > You can clean the plating off your vessel with 3% hydrogen peroxide. > > Trem > www.silvergen.com > > At 01:50 PM 6/4/00 -0400, you wrote: > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Nina Silver, Ph.D." > >To: > >Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 11:51 AM > >Subject: Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom > > > > > > > > > > People, > > > No one has yet answered WHY it is necessary to prevent the electrodes from > > > touching the sides or the bottom. To reiterate, My electrodes touch the > > > sides of the pyrex glass container in which I make my CS, and the silver > > > comes out just fine. > > > > > > Nina > >] > > There is, or should be no effect from electrodes touching the bottom of the > >container as long as > > the container is glass or plastic and is non-conductive. With your pyrex > >container, it is totally > > a non-issue! > > > >BillB > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > > > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > > > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > > > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > > > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > > > > > > > > >
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Thanks, W.T., for the info on the plexiglas and motor! Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Thank you for answering mine and Nina's question about this. Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Thank you, Mike, for answering Nina's (and I had the same question) about the silver "plating out" by touching the bottom and sides. So in other words, you are saying that the silver which does end up "plating out' could be more useful ending up in the solution, instead of settling at the bottom? Makes sense. Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Thank you, Trem and Ole Bob for your responses to my question about plating out. Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Hi Nina; For short time brewing no problem with the electrodes touching the bottom. For long time brew that can be another story, As I have had sliver bridging across plastic spacers, znd forming a conductive path that screwed up my current raedings. You might get by with it many times but it will bite you when you are not aware of it. The conductive path might not even be very visible to conduct current so why tempt fate??? "Ole Bob" -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Hi List, There can be a downside to letting electrodes touch the glass. It can plate out onto the glass and the next time you use the vessel, the plating can allow some of the current to flow from the electrodes to the plated portions which will then provide a current path and that will reduce the current flow between the electrodes. The result is you won't get as strong CS as you had thought. Best to clean the plating off the glass before using the vessel again or use a new one every once in a while. You can clean the plating off your vessel with 3% hydrogen peroxide. Trem www.silvergen.com At 01:50 PM 6/4/00 -0400, you wrote: - Original Message - From: "Nina Silver, Ph.D." To: Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 11:51 AM Subject: Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom > > People, > No one has yet answered WHY it is necessary to prevent the electrodes from > touching the sides or the bottom. To reiterate, My electrodes touch the > sides of the pyrex glass container in which I make my CS, and the silver > comes out just fine. > > Nina ] There is, or should be no effect from electrodes touching the bottom of the container as long as the container is glass or plastic and is non-conductive. With your pyrex container, it is totally a non-issue! BillB > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
> > People, > No one has yet answered WHY it is necessary to prevent the > electrodes from touching the sides or the bottom. To reiterate, My > electrodes touch the sides of the pyrex glass container in which I > make my CS, and the silver comes out just fine. > > Nina Good question, Nina! I'm sure for a lot of folks it's just the way they learned and they don't know why, for sure. Using a consistent spacing and allignment allows for more repeatable results and keeping the electrodes away from the glass prevents silver plating out on those surfaces. Of course, if it plates out on the glass, it's not in the CS, plus having a lot of stray metal around may effect the electric field and flow of current in the cell. There's probably not anything wrong with what you're doing, and if your CS works you *know* that. Be well, Mike D. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [mdev...@eskimo.com] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
- Original Message - From: "Nina Silver, Ph.D." To: Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 11:51 AM Subject: Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom > > People, > No one has yet answered WHY it is necessary to prevent the electrodes from > touching the sides or the bottom. To reiterate, My electrodes touch the > sides of the pyrex glass container in which I make my CS, and the silver > comes out just fine. > > Nina ] There is, or should be no effect from electrodes touching the bottom of the container as long as the container is glass or plastic and is non-conductive. With your pyrex container, it is totally a non-issue! BillB > > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
In a message dated 00-06-04 11:58:55 EDT, you write: << People, No one has yet answered WHY it is necessary to prevent the electrodes from touching the sides or the bottom. To reiterate, My electrodes touch the sides of the pyrex glass container in which I make my CS, and the silver comes out just fine. Nina >> Nina: The only reason I can think of to avoid having the electrodes touch the sides of the container in that you are inadvertantly increasing the current density. If the current density gets too high your CS brew will suffer in quality. Whether or not CS quality suffers in actuality depends on the setup you are using. In your cas there appears to be no problem, but that doesn't mean that everyone will be so fortunate. Roger -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
People, No one has yet answered WHY it is necessary to prevent the electrodes from touching the sides or the bottom. To reiterate, My electrodes touch the sides of the pyrex glass container in which I make my CS, and the silver comes out just fine. Nina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Lynn, I just recently cut a piece of Plexiglas to use as my 'lid'. I also 'candy-cane' the wires. I just drop the wires into the holes and then clip the jumper wires to them. The Plexiglas provides excellent strength and support. Plus, if you use one of the little .99 cent motors like Ol' Bob recommends, you can drill another hole in the Plexiglas to accommodate the shaft of the motor and it easily supports the extra weight there, too. You should be able to find some Plexiglas at a hardware store or maybe a craft/hobby shop. One other thing I like about the Plexiglas is that it allows a clear view into the 'brew'. Happy CS'n. >From the beautiful Florida panhandle, W.T. - Original Message - From: Frank Gibson To: Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 10:46 AM Subject: Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom > Lynn: > Like Ivan said, a lid(plastic) is the ticket for holding your > electrodes. I found that "candy-caneing" them with double holes in the > lid gave the best contol. > If you take the end of your electrode, regardless of its > configuration, and heat it with a match or lighter, it makes a very > nice-fitting hole. > Good luck, keep a smile. > Frank Gibson > > http://community.webtv.net/FlyingFawcett/ > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour > >
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Candy caneing is a very good idea. Thanks Frank Gibson wrote: > > Lynn: > Like Ivan said, a lid(plastic) is the ticket for holding your > electrodes. I found that "candy-caneing" them with double holes in the > lid gave the best contol. > If you take the end of your electrode, regardless of its > configuration, and heat it with a match or lighter, it makes a very > nice-fitting hole. > Good luck, keep a smile. > Frank Gibson > > http://community.webtv.net/FlyingFawcett/ > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Hi Nina all you have to do for your generator is to use a bottle with a plastic cover..Make two holes for the silver rods in the cover..I fastened them by using two stainless steel screws up through the cover and bend the silver around them and tighten the nut outside ...The screw hole should be about 1/4 inch from the hole for the silver ..then connect the batteries or power supply and you're in business.. I keep the end of the silver about 1/4 of an inch from bottom of bottle. separate the silver about 1.5 inches Works fine. Regards A.Rose At 02:08 PM 6/3/00 -0400, you wrote: Why is is important not to have the electrodes touch the sides or bottom? Until I can set up another CS maker, I'm using an old unit that has worked fine. The electrodes touch the sides and/or bottom of the glass pyrex measuring cup in which I make the silver; and so far the silver has not precipitated into large particles. It works, as evidenced by my immediate response (eliminating colds etc).after ingestion. Therefore, what is wrong with the electrodes touching the container in which the silver is being made? Nina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Yup--it's like you read my mind! That's what I'm doing! Thanks, Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
How much do you drink for an active infection per day? Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Nina: Good one! Let's see how they answer this! Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Maybe scotch tape the outside of the wire to the bottle? lfzbiz...@aol.com wrote: > > Dear Silver-List Group Members: > > I was wondering---does it matter if the silver wire touches the bottom > and/or sides of the container, while it's brewing? I candy-cane it over the > side to keep it steady, and then the bottom of the wire touches the bottom of > the container, as I can't suspend it without having it rest against > something. If this counter-productive to making good solution and if I am > not getting an effective batch of stuff, how do I suspend the wires in the > water? If it's not a problem, fine, but someone had mentioned the wires > shouldn't be touching on sides or bottom, as this causes a "plating" effect. > OK, but then, how do I suspend the wires--my wires aren't little strands, but > flat and a little heavy > > Lynn > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Guys--sorry I sent you all a personal e-mail I didn't intend to I must be more careful to send it directly to the person in the future! Sorry Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Hi, Frank! Thanks for all your help. My 19-year old is on Amoxicillin now, so we will start the CS again after she fiinishes with the Amoxicillin. This is her 3rd antibiotic, which is FINALLY working. And Mom here is finally getting the CS making process right. Do you have your own generator, or do you make your own? Would you describe to me how you make yours? Do you use salt at all? I don't. So how are you doing? Where do you live? How old are you? What do you do for a living? Do you like animals? I KNOW you like kids! Is that enough questions for you? I am 45 years old, have two teenage girls, am a Legal Assistant/Paralegal now for 25 years, love music, having been in 2 singing/rock groups, and here's a picture of me. You seem like a fun(ny) person who lives from the heart (I do) Let's communicate some more! Tell me about yourself! I was a tri-county champ swimmer, yet I continued to smoke cigarettes (gee, just think how many trophies I would've gotten if I hadn't smoked!!) Anyway, now I work out at the gym 3 times a week, so I can keep my shape and mind off of cigarettes. It will be three years on August 5, 2000. I love theatre, learning new things, like visiting museams, historical sites, going to lectures, talking, drinking coffee, listening to great music (any kind), searching the spiritual realm and discovering things like healing, meditation, psychic phenomena, near-death experiences, angels, etc. I sued to be very fundamentalist (Billy Graham-type) Christian and even attended Bible College. But that was back in 1973. I have searched spiritually and am happy I did--that was far too limiting. Oh, and I love my two girls. Love cats. Enjoy men with a sense of humor and excitement, like you, although there aren't any in my life currently. Write back! Lynn -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Why is is important not to have the electrodes touch the sides or bottom? Until I can set up another CS maker, I'm using an old unit that has worked fine. The electrodes touch the sides and/or bottom of the glass pyrex measuring cup in which I make the silver; and so far the silver has not precipitated into large particles. It works, as evidenced by my immediate response (eliminating colds etc).after ingestion. Therefore, what is wrong with the electrodes touching the container in which the silver is being made? Nina -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Lynn: Like Ivan said, a lid(plastic) is the ticket for holding your electrodes. I found that "candy-caneing" them with double holes in the lid gave the best contol. If you take the end of your electrode, regardless of its configuration, and heat it with a match or lighter, it makes a very nice-fitting hole. Good luck, keep a smile. Frank Gibson http://community.webtv.net/FlyingFawcett/ -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Thanks--5 or 10 ml---translate--1/8 of an inch? Lynn :-) -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom
Lynn, Poke holes in a lid (or something that can rest on the rim of your container) just big enough to take your electrodes. Hold them in place with pegs or blue-tak or such like. Best to keep them 5 to 10 ml off the bottom. :-) Ivan. - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Sunday, 4 June 2000 01:44 Subject: CS>Silver Electrodes touching sides/bottom > Dear Silver-List Group Members: > > I was wondering---does it matter if the silver wire touches the bottom > and/or sides of the container, while it's brewing? I candy-cane it over the > side to keep it steady, and then the bottom of the wire touches the bottom of > the container, as I can't suspend it without having it rest against > something. If this counter-productive to making good solution and if I am > not getting an effective batch of stuff, how do I suspend the wires in the > water? If it's not a problem, fine, but someone had mentioned the wires > shouldn't be touching on sides or bottom, as this causes a "plating" effect. > OK, but then, how do I suspend the wires--my wires aren't little strands, but > flat and a little heavy > > Lynn > -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com -or- silver-digest-requ...@eskimo.com with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour
