Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[leslie]

Amazing what you find out when you go back deleting excess mail! Gotta have 
a little laugh sometimes. Leslie
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music pitch pipe?
Chuck

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On 1/9/2010 8:29:46 PM, Dan Nave (bhangcha...@gmail.com) wrote:

The shape of the tube is probably very important.

How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm?

Dan


On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G mailto:chube...@yahoo.com]> wrote:
Hey, I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these
things. Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative
therapies
I've been running into in recent weeks.

Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who 
really needs it. Of course, I don't

want to wait until the FDA gets around to approving it and adding to
it's cost. I'm guessing that with a little bit of patience, a plastic
tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these things that
would work just as well. The length of the scotch tape would be the
biggest issue.
I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half 
inch at a time until it was 'just

right.'

Cool!

Steve G.


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Clayton Family]

Do you have a link to the info you are referring to?

There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil nuts.

On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag wrote:

To those  of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long  
time, did you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about  
calcium which the Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just  
beginning to take and make CS.

Thanks.

Melly

RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Neville Munn]

[did you make them take selenium as well,]

-No, and I don't either, and same with calcium.

 

N.

 

 
> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 06:08:35 -0700
> From: tita_...@yahoo.com
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!
> 
> To those of you who used homemade CS for for loved ones for a long time, did 
> you make them take selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the 
> Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to take and make CS. 
> Thanks.
> 
> Melly
> 
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Melly Bag]

Just google colloidal silver + selenium.  There are some websites that say that 
selenium -methionine should be the supplement to take to usher out the silver.  
Other forms of selenium accordign to them would make the silver stay in 
tissues. Weston Price Foundation says calcium should be taken as well, but i 
just lost the document last night.  i was reading it and somehow my computer 
blinked and out it went.  Just search in the westonprice.org (i think).

Melly

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, Clayton Family  wrote:

> From: Clayton Family 
> Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:30 AM
> Do you have a link to the info you are
> referring to?
> There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil
> nuts. 
> On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag
> wrote:
> To those  of you who used homemade CS
> for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take
> selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the
> Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to
> take and make CS.  
> Thanks.
> 
> Melly
> 
>


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RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Neville Munn]

I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I take 
*nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to take 
*anything* else?

 

'According?' to a lot of people, others should be taking a whole heap of stuff, 
I guess there must be a reason to do so, unfortunately/fortunately, that reason 
escapes me for the moment?  I haven't seen too much in any literature I've 
researched about the necessity for ingestion of anything else whilst taking EIS 
as produced in the home? or anywhere else for that matter.  Is mention of it, 
but not enough factual reasoning for me to look further into it.

 

If one has a good quality product it is lost on me why the taking of anything 
else need be considered, perhaps 50 or 100 years ago maybe, or to rectify 
something today which was instigated for some reason from the past, but 
certainly not this day and age using the means, methods and practices for 
producing EIS.

 

Yeah, now I've probably invoked the wrath of the soothsayers, but!...I don't 
feel unwell, actually I feel bloody good, I don't look blue or whatever in the 
mirror, nothing on my person is discoloured in any way, my fingernails aren't 
splitting or falling out, my skin's not cracking, my only hair loss is from 
aging...etc etc etc, so why would I even contemplate ingesting anything else?  
well, in the vain hope it may change my attitude perhaps, nothing else I can 
think of as a reason.

 

Or it could simply be I'm just too damn healthyand haven't a clue what I'm 
talking about, in which case just ignore/apply suitable finger pressure on 
delete button...

 

N.


 
> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 20:29:13 -0700
> From: tita_...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> Just google colloidal silver + selenium. There are some websites that say 
> that selenium -methionine should be the supplement to take to usher out the 
> silver. Other forms of selenium accordign to them would make the silver stay 
> in tissues. Weston Price Foundation says calcium should be taken as well, but 
> i just lost the document last night. i was reading it and somehow my computer 
> blinked and out it went. Just search in the westonprice.org (i think).
> 
> Melly
> 
> --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Clayton Family  wrote:
> 
> > From: Clayton Family 
> > Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:30 AM
> > Do you have a link to the info you are
> > referring to?
> > There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil
> > nuts. 
> > On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag
> > wrote:
> > To those  of you who used homemade CS
> > for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take
> > selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the
> > Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to
> > take and make CS.  
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Melly
> > 
> > 
> 
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RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Dianne France]

N

 

Think it is great that you are doing so well and cs is a wonderful product.  
Many of us have found cs because of health problems we are trying to solve.  I 
had testing done with my doctor to determine if I was lacking the bacteria my 
gut and also for vitamin deficiencies. I needed selenium, C and A.  With Brooks 
post on the LipEncVitC I have purchased it and feel a difference.  Living in 
Florida almost everything and everybody is selenium deficient.  Our area has 
fairly good soil and is hilly (almost impossible in Fl).

These are the reasons I supplement.  

 

D
 


From: one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Unidentified subject!
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 17:36:49 +1030



I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I take 
*nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to take 
*anything* else?
 
'According?' to a lot of people, others should be taking a whole heap of stuff, 
I guess there must be a reason to do so, unfortunately/fortunately, that reason 
escapes me for the moment?  I haven't seen too much in any literature I've 
researched about the necessity for ingestion of anything else whilst taking EIS 
as produced in the home? or anywhere else for that matter.  Is mention of it, 
but not enough factual reasoning for me to look further into it.
 
If one has a good quality product it is lost on me why the taking of anything 
else need be considered, perhaps 50 or 100 years ago maybe, or to rectify 
something today which was instigated for some reason from the past, but 
certainly not this day and age using the means, methods and practices for 
producing EIS.
 
Yeah, now I've probably invoked the wrath of the soothsayers, but!...I don't 
feel unwell, actually I feel bloody good, I don't look blue or whatever in the 
mirror, nothing on my person is discoloured in any way, my fingernails aren't 
splitting or falling out, my skin's not cracking, my only hair loss is from 
aging...etc etc etc, so why would I even contemplate ingesting anything else?  
well, in the vain hope it may change my attitude perhaps, nothing else I can 
think of as a reason.
 
Or it could simply be I'm just too damn healthyand haven't a clue what I'm 
talking about, in which case just ignore/apply suitable finger pressure on 
delete button...
 
N.

 
> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 20:29:13 -0700
> From: tita_...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> Just google colloidal silver + selenium. There are some websites that say 
> that selenium -methionine should be the supplement to take to usher out the 
> silver. Other forms of selenium accordign to them would make the silver stay 
> in tissues. Weston Price Foundation says calcium should be taken as well, but 
> i just lost the document last night. i was reading it and somehow my computer 
> blinked and out it went. Just search in the westonprice.org (i think).
> 
> Melly
> 
> --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Clayton Family  wrote:
> 
> > From: Clayton Family 
> > Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:30 AM
> > Do you have a link to the info you are
> > referring to?
> > There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil
> > nuts. 
> > On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag
> > wrote:
> > To those  of you who used homemade CS
> > for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take
> > selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the
> > Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to
> > take and make CS.  
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Melly
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Neville Munn]

OK Dianne, no worries, it seems some may have conditions or reasons that 
require this.

 

[doing so well and cs is a wonderful product]

-I won't be presumptuous and suggest EIS is responsible for me doing so well 
though, as I said earlier, I may just be 'cursed?' with good health.  We'll 
see what the future brings I guess.

 

N.
 


From: dianne_fra...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Unidentified subject!
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 08:07:23 -0400



N
 
Think it is great that you are doing so well and cs is a wonderful product.  
Many of us have found cs because of health problems we are trying to solve.  I 
had testing done with my doctor to determine if I was lacking the bacteria my 
gut and also for vitamin deficiencies. I needed selenium, C and A.  With Brooks 
post on the LipEncVitC I have purchased it and feel a difference.  Living in 
Florida almost everything and everybody is selenium deficient.  Our area has 
fairly good soil and is hilly (almost impossible in Fl).
These are the reasons I supplement.  
 
D
 


From: one.red...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: CS>Unidentified subject!
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 17:36:49 +1030



I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I take 
*nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to take 
*anything* else?
 
'According?' to a lot of people, others should be taking a whole heap of stuff, 
I guess there must be a reason to do so, unfortunately/fortunately, that reason 
escapes me for the moment?  I haven't seen too much in any literature I've 
researched about the necessity for ingestion of anything else whilst taking EIS 
as produced in the home? or anywhere else for that matter.  Is mention of it, 
but not enough factual reasoning for me to look further into it.
 
If one has a good quality product it is lost on me why the taking of anything 
else need be considered, perhaps 50 or 100 years ago maybe, or to rectify 
something today which was instigated for some reason from the past, but 
certainly not this day and age using the means, methods and practices for 
producing EIS.
 
Yeah, now I've probably invoked the wrath of the soothsayers, but!...I don't 
feel unwell, actually I feel bloody good, I don't look blue or whatever in the 
mirror, nothing on my person is discoloured in any way, my fingernails aren't 
splitting or falling out, my skin's not cracking, my only hair loss is from 
aging...etc etc etc, so why would I even contemplate ingesting anything else?  
well, in the vain hope it may change my attitude perhaps, nothing else I can 
think of as a reason.
 
Or it could simply be I'm just too damn healthyand haven't a clue what I'm 
talking about, in which case just ignore/apply suitable finger pressure on 
delete button...
 
N.

 
> Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 20:29:13 -0700
> From: tita_...@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> 
> Just google colloidal silver + selenium. There are some websites that say 
> that selenium -methionine should be the supplement to take to usher out the 
> silver. Other forms of selenium accordign to them would make the silver stay 
> in tissues. Weston Price Foundation says calcium should be taken as well, but 
> i just lost the document last night. i was reading it and somehow my computer 
> blinked and out it went. Just search in the westonprice.org (i think).
> 
> Melly
> 
> --- On Fri, 9/4/09, Clayton Family  wrote:
> 
> > From: Clayton Family 
> > Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
> > To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> > Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:30 AM
> > Do you have a link to the info you are
> > referring to?
> > There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil
> > nuts. 
> > On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag
> > wrote:
> > To those  of you who used homemade CS
> > for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take
> > selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the
> > Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to
> > take and make CS.  
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > Melly
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Clayton Family]

I did look at the WPF site, and could not locate anything like that in  
reference to colloidal silver. Most people seem to excrete the silver  
from the body pretty quickly ( in the ionic form we make at home ) .  
If one has a problem with metal excretion (rare, but possible) then  
extra supplements might be needed, or if one lives in an area with  
specific soil deficiencies, more might be needed. Where I live, there  
is no iodine in the soil, but there seems to be selenium- so we have  
to take iodine, like iodized salt.


I found much info on excretion of silver at the silvermedicine website.

Kathryn

On Sep 4, 2009, at 10:29 PM, Melly Bag wrote:

Just google colloidal silver + selenium.  There are some websites  
that say that selenium -methionine should be the supplement to take  
to usher out the silver.  Other forms of selenium accordign to them  
would make the silver stay in tissues. Weston Price Foundation says  
calcium should be taken as well, but i just lost the document last  
night.  i was reading it and somehow my computer blinked and out it  
went.  Just search in the westonprice.org (i think).


Melly

--- On Fri, 9/4/09, Clayton Family  wrote:


From: Clayton Family 
Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Friday, September 4, 2009, 9:30 AM
Do you have a link to the info you are
referring to?
There is selenium in nuts, esp brazil
nuts.
On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Melly Bag
wrote:
To those  of you who used homemade CS
for for loved ones for a long time, did you make them take
selenium as well, which type? How about calcium which the
Weston Price Foundation said is a must. Just beginning to
take and make CS.
Thanks.

Melly

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

Sorry I missed all this.  What is the point of selenium with CS?  CS  
is to kill bacteria/viruses so why would we need to take selenium  
which is a mineral/anti-oxidant?  dee


On 5 Sep 2009, at 08:06, Neville Munn wrote:

I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now  
and I take *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may  
need to take *anything* else?

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Indi]

Some people fear argyria, which they believe can be averted by using
selenium to help wth elimination of "excess silver" from the body.
Not at all necessary if all you're using is EIS. 
There is no "potential harmful effect" of using EIS -- unless of course 
you're a single-celled organism... :)

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On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 08:00:46PM +0100, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote:
>Sorry I missed all this.  What is the point of selenium with CS?  CS is
>to kill bacteria/viruses so why would we need to take selenium which is
>a mineral/anti-oxidant?  dee
> 
>On 5 Sep 2009, at 08:06, Neville Munn wrote:
> 
>I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and
>I take *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to
>take *anything* else?


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[cking001]

Selenium along with vitamin E is part of the process to reverse
argyria.
Both are important supplements anyway, especially for us elders.

Chuck
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On 9/5/2009 3:00:46 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:
> Sorry I missed all this.  What is the point of selenium with CS?  CS is to
> kill bacteria/viruses so why would we need to take selenium which is a
> mineral/anti-oxidant?  dee
> On 5 Sep 2009, at 08:06, Neville Munn wrote:
> 
> I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I take 
> *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to take 
> *anything* else?
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Dorothy Fitzpatrick]

But you don't need to take it if you don't *have* argyria?  dee

On 5 Sep 2009, at 20:18, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote:


Selenium along with vitamin E is part of the process to reverse
argyria.
Both are important supplements anyway, especially for us elders.

Chuck
When you are over the hill, you pick up speed...

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Del]

Chuck, I don't know about you, but I'm not an elder.
I'm only 70.

Del

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From: 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 05, 2009 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!


Selenium along with vitamin E is part of the process to reverse
argyria.
Both are important supplements anyway, especially for us elders.

Chuck
When you are over the hill, you pick up speed...


On 9/5/2009 3:00:46 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote:

Sorry I missed all this.  What is the point of selenium with CS?  CS is to
kill bacteria/viruses so why would we need to take selenium which is a
mineral/anti-oxidant?  dee
On 5 Sep 2009, at 08:06, Neville Munn wrote:

I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I 
take *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to take 
*anything* else?







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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Ode Coyote]

 Selenium is a key element in the elimination and levels control of many 
metals that in too high amounts would be toxic and are too common to easily 
avoid ingesting...like copper.
 Selenium itself is quite toxic in very small amountsif you get too 
much of it. Croak.


Ode

At 08:00 PM 9/5/2009 +0100, you wrote:
Sorry I missed all this.  What is the point of selenium with CS?  CS is to 
kill bacteria/viruses so why would we need to take selenium which is a 
mineral/anti-oxidant?  dee


On 5 Sep 2009, at 08:06, Neville Munn wrote:

I've been ingesting my own EIS every day for a number of years now and I 
take *nothing* else, perhaps I could be reminded of why I may need to 
take *anything* else?





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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[cking001]

Info at  http://medicalacoustics.com/

Chuck
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> Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research
> (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple
> "humming" technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus
> blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated
> several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the
> most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website).
> There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which
> promises
> quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic
> pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device
> invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is
> nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube
> and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous
> accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable,
> results
> have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information
> on a regular basis.
> For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and
> results---one may
> obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine.
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Steve G]

Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these things.    
Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative therapies I've 
been running into in recent weeks.

Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really 
needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around to 
approving it and adding to it's cost.  I'm guessing that with a little bit of 
patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these 
things that would work just as well.   The length of the scotch tape would be 
the biggest issue.  I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by 
cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.'

Cool!

Steve G.


--- On Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com  wrote:

From: cking...@nycap.rr.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM

Info at  http://medicalacoustics.com/

                    Chuck
"Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees"


On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.com) wrote:
> Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research
> (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple
> "humming" technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus
> blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated
> several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the
> most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website).
> There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which
> promises
> quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic
> pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device
> invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is
> nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube
> and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous
> accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable,
> results
> have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information
> on a regular basis.
> For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and
> results---one may
> obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine.
> Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Annie B Smythe]

It may not be quite as effective but I always used 
a cupped hand to percuss the back and chest when 
my kids were congested. Of course it's very hard 
to do that to yourself. So yeah, neato idea.



Annie
If we could sell our experiences for what they
cost us, we'd all be millionaires.
Abigail Van Buren

Steve G wrote:
  Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these 
things.Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the 
alternative therapies I've been running into in recent weeks.


Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who 
really needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets 
around to approving it and adding to it's cost.  I'm guessing that with 
a little bit of patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone 
could build one of these things that would work just as well.   The 
length of the scotch tape would be the biggest issue.  I'd plan on 
making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half inch at a 
time until it was 'just right.'


Cool!

Steve G.


--- On *Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com //* wrote:


    From: cking...@nycap.rr.com 
Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM

Info at  http://medicalacoustics.com/

Chuck
"Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees"


On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.com
) wrote:
 > Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to
research
 > (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using
a simple
 > "humming" technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent
sinus
 > blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we
evaluated
 > several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake
(the
 > most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his
website).
 > There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which
 > promises
 > quite effective aid in addressing many of the more
challenging/chronic
 > pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical
device
 > invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is
 > nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a
plastic tube
 > and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous
 > accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable,
 > results
 > have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange
information
 > on a regular basis.
 > For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins
efforts---and
 > results---one may
 > obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine.
 > Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Dan Nave]

http://www.popsci.com/bown/2009/innovator/pied-piper-mucus

http://www.popsci.com/bown/2009/video/video-playing-lung-flute

Dan

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Brooks Bradley  wrote:
> Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research
> (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple
> "humming" technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus
> blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated
> several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the most
> effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website). There
> is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which promises
> quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic
> pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device
> invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is nothing
> more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube and a
> reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous
> accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable, results
> have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information on
> a regular basis.
> For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and
> results---one may
> obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine.
> Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Dan Nave]

The shape of the tube is probably very important.

How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm?

Dan

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G  wrote:

>   Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these
> things.Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative
> therapies I've been running into in recent weeks.
>
> Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who
> really needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around
> to approving it and adding to it's cost.  I'm guessing that with a little
> bit of patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one
> of these things that would work just as well.   The length of the scotch
> tape would be the biggest issue.  I'd plan on making it too long, and then
> tuning it by cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.'
>
> Cool!
>
> Steve G.
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com * wrote:
>
>
> From: cking...@nycap.rr.com 
> Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM
>
>
> Info at  http://medicalacoustics.com/
>
> Chuck
> "Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees"
>
>
> On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley 
> (brooks76...@lycos.com<http://mc/compose?to=brooks76...@lycos.com>)
> wrote:
> > Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research
> > (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple
> > "humming" technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus
> > blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we
> evaluated
> > several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the
> > most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his
> website).
> > There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which
> > promises
> > quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic
> > pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device
> > invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is
> > nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube
> > and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous
> > accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable,
> > results
> > have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information
> > on a regular basis.
> > For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and
> > results---one may
> > obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine.
> > Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f
>
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Steve G]

I would go trial and error.  And as an experienced wind musician, the shape of 
the instrument would make a difference, but mostly in characteristics of the 
sound that are not relevant to it's medical effectiveness.  The important thing 
is achieve 16 mhz, which is extremely slow.    Middle C, in comparison, is set 
to a standard of 261.6 mhz.   The Lung Flute would be tuned to a sub-contra low 
C 4 octaves below middle C on the piano, or 1 octave below the lowest C 
note the piano has.  (16.35 mhz).

I would expect that not only the length is important, but the thickness of the 
'reed.'   Also, I noticed that at the very top of the lung flute, the tape 
starts off rather stiffly at about a 60 degree angle from the mouthpiece.  I'm 
sure this is important to it's ability to hit the proper note, but I believe 
that the most important thing is to hit the right vibrational frequency, 
without regard to the other sound characteristics.

It would take some experimentation, especially since I suspect my old ears are 
not capable of detecting such a low note.

Steve G.





--- On Sat, 1/9/10, Dan Nave  wrote:

From: Dan Nave 
Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 8:29 PM

The shape of the tube is probably very important.  
 
How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm?
 
Dan


On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G  wrote:





Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these things.    
Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative therapies I've 
been running into in recent weeks.


Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really 
needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around to 
approving it and adding to it's cost.  I'm guessing that with a little bit of 
patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these 
things that would work just as well.   The length of the scotch tape would be 
the biggest issue.  I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by 
cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.'


Cool!

Steve G.


--- On Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com  wrote:



From: cking...@nycap.rr.com 

Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM 





Info at  http://medicalacoustics.com/

                    Chuck
"Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees"


On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley (brooks76...@lycos.com) wrote:

> Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research
> (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple
> "humming" technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus

> blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated
> several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the
> most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website).

> There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which
> promises
> quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic
> pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device

> invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is
> nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube
> and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous

> accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable,
> results
> have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information
> on a regular basis.
> For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and

> results---one may
> obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine.
> Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum f


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[cking001]

music pitch pipe?
Chuck

SCIENTIST INVENTS 'REVERSE LIGHTBULB' THAT MAKES 
ROOM DARKER


On 1/9/2010 8:29:46 PM, Dan Nave (bhangcha...@gmail.com) wrote:
> The shape of the tube is probably very important. 
>  
> How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm?
>  
> Dan
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G  mailto:chube...@yahoo.com]> wrote:
> Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these
> things.    Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative
> therapies
> I've been running into in recent weeks.
> 
> Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who really 
> needs it. Of course, I don't
> want to wait until the FDA gets around to approving it and adding to
> it's cost.  I'm guessing that with a little bit of patience, a plastic
> tube and some scotch tape someone could build one of these things that
> would work just as well.   The length of the scotch tape would be the
> biggest issue. 
> I'd plan on making it too long, and then tuning it by cutting off a half inch 
> at a time until it was 'just
> right.'
> 
> Cool!
> 
> Steve G.
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 1/9/10, cking...@nycap.rr.com  mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]> wrote:
> 
> From: cking...@nycap.rr.com  mailto:cking...@nycap.rr.com]>
>


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Renee]

 I have zero music background so don't understand any of it, but in reading
the comments on the first link a person posted this.  Is it true?

>>The solution is simple. Make a one note musical instrument with the same
basic design. Then cover the hole with your finger to get the same
vibrations as the lung flute. Anyone can design and make one and the FDA
would not be able to do a thing about it.

---Original Message---
 
 
http://www.popsci.com/bown/2009/innovator/pied-piper-mucus
 

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Steve G]

The design is indeed simple.   I'm sure other designs would work well too, but 
not only is the correct pitch important, but it must have a way to convey this 
pitch to the lungs.  One wonders if an electrical vibrator pitched to the right 
frequency would do the job.   It would likely be more expensive to produce, but 
could have the advantage of being tunable in case some people have lungs with 
cilia that vibrate at a slightly different wavelength.   Hard to believe that 
every single human has lungs tuned to 16 mhz exactly, but maybe at that low 
threshold accuracy is not as important.


--- On Sat, 1/9/10, Renee  wrote:

From: Renee 
Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 9:37 PM


 
 
#yiv886187764 v\3a* {
}

#yiv886187764 v\3a* {
}






 I have zero music background so don't understand any of it, but in reading the 
comments on the first link a person posted this.  Is it true?
 
>>The solution is simple. Make a one note musical instrument with the same 
>>basic design. Then cover the hole with your finger to get the same vibrations 
>>as the lung flute. Anyone can design and make one and the FDA would not be 
>>able to do a thing about it.
 
---Original Message---
 
 
http://www.popsci.com/bown/2009/innovator/pied-piper-mucus
 











  

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Dan Nave]

How about a strobe light, or an equivalent mechanical viewing device?

Dan

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 7:48 PM, Steve G  wrote:

>   I would go trial and error.  And as an experienced wind musician, the
> shape of the instrument would make a difference, but mostly in
> characteristics of the sound that are not relevant to it's medical
> effectiveness.  The important thing is achieve 16 mhz, which is extremely
> slow.Middle C, in comparison, is set to a standard of 261.6 mhz.   The
> Lung Flute would be tuned to a sub-contra low C 4 octaves below middle C
> on the piano, or 1 octave below the lowest C note the piano has.  (16.35
> mhz).
>
> I would expect that not only the length is important, but the thickness of
> the 'reed.'   Also, I noticed that at the very top of the lung flute, the
> tape starts off rather stiffly at about a 60 degree angle from the
> mouthpiece.  I'm sure this is important to it's ability to hit the proper
> note, but I believe that the most important thing is to hit the right
> vibrational frequency, without regard to the other sound characteristics.
>
> It would take some experimentation, especially since I suspect my old ears
> are not capable of detecting such a low note.
>
> Steve G.
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Sat, 1/9/10, Dan Nave * wrote:
>
>
> From: Dan Nave 
>
> Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 8:29 PM
>
>
>  The shape of the tube is probably very important.
>
> How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm?
>
> Dan
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Steve G 
> http://mc/compose?to=chube...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>>   Hey,  I looked at the intriguing video of a guy blowing one of these
>> things.Sure looks pretty simple to me, as are many of the alternative
>> therapies I've been running into in recent weeks.
>>
>> Only $40 for one of these things sounds like a bargain for someone who
>> really needs it. Of course, I don't want to wait until the FDA gets around
>> to approving it and adding to it's cost.  I'm guessing that with a little
>> bit of patience, a plastic tube and some scotch tape someone could build one
>> of these things that would work just as well.   The length of the scotch
>> tape would be the biggest issue.  I'd plan on making it too long, and then
>> tuning it by cutting off a half inch at a time until it was 'just right.'
>>
>> Cool!
>>
>> Steve G.
>>
>>
>> --- On *Sat, 1/9/10, 
>> cking...@nycap.rr.com<http://mc/compose?to=cking...@nycap.rr.com>
>> http://mc/compose?to=cking...@nycap.rr.com>>*wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: cking...@nycap.rr.com <http://mc/compose?to=cking...@nycap.rr.com><
>> cking...@nycap.rr.com <http://mc/compose?to=cking...@nycap.rr.com>>
>> Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
>> To: silver-list@eskimo.com <http://mc/compose?to=silver-l...@eskimo.com>
>> Date: Saturday, January 9, 2010, 6:30 PM
>>
>>
>> Info at  http://medicalacoustics.com/
>>
>> Chuck
>> "Vegan Vampire Attacks Trees"
>>
>>
>> On 1/9/2010 5:58:27 PM, Brooks Bradley 
>> (brooks76...@lycos.com<http://mc/compose?to=brooks76...@lycos.com>)
>> wrote:
>> > Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to
>> research
>> > (some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a
>> simple
>> > "humming" technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus
>> > blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we
>> evaluated
>> > several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the
>> > most effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his
>> website).
>> > There is yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which
>> > promises
>> > quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic
>> > pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device
>> > invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is
>> > nothing more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube
>> > and a reed-thin strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous
>> > accumulations/impacted debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable,
>> > results
>> > have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information
>> > on a regular basis.
>> > For those interested in reviewing 

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Dan Nave]

You can't hear that low a frequency, maybe a hetrodyned frequency though...

Dan

On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 8:24 PM,   wrote:
> music pitch pipe?
>                                        Chuck
>
>        SCIENTIST INVENTS 'REVERSE LIGHTBULB' THAT MAKES
> ROOM DARKER
>
>
> On 1/9/2010 8:29:46 PM, Dan Nave (bhangcha...@gmail.com) wrote:
>> The shape of the tube is probably very important.
>>
>> How would you tune it, trial and error by phlegm?
>>
>> Dan
>>
>>


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[cking001]

16 mhz would be beyond the range of hearing.
Perhaps you mean 16 Hz or 16 KHZ?
One is at the lowest audible and the other near the highest.

Chuck
5 out of 4 people have a problem with fractions.

On 1/9/2010 8:48:57 PM, Steve G (chube...@yahoo.com) wrote:
> I would go trial and error. And as an experienced wind musician, the shape
> of the instrument would make a difference, but mostly in characteristics
> of the sound that are not relevant to
> it's medical effectiveness. The important thing is achieve 16 mhz, which is 
> extremely slow.   Middle C, in comparison, is set to a standard of 261.6 mhz. 
>  The Lung Flute would be tuned to a sub-contra low C 4 octaves below 
> middle C on the piano, or 1 octave below the lowest C note the piano has. 
> (16.35 mhz).
> 
> I would expect that not only the length is important, but the thickness of 
> the 'reed.
> '  Also, I noticed that at the very top of the lung flute, the tape starts 
> off rather stiffly at about a 60 degree angle from the mouthpiece. I'm
> sure this is important to
> it's ability to hit the proper note, but I believe that the most important 
> thing is to hit the right vibrational frequency, without regard to the other 
> sound characteristics.
> 
> It would take some experimentation, especially since I suspect my old ears 
> are not capable of detecting such a low note.
> 
> Steve G.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 1/9/10, Dan Nave  wrote:
> 
> From: Dan Nave 
> Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subjec


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Colin Quinney]

Thank you Brooks,

"The Lung Flute" :

http://www.popsci.com/bown/2009/innovator/pied-piper-mucus

Best,
Colin
  - Original Message - 
  From: Brooks Bradley 
  To: Silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 5:58 PM
  Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!


  Circa about 12 months ago, I posted some information relative to research 
(some of it peculiar to our staff)relating to the value of using a simple 
"humming" technique for aiding/relieving some cases of persistent sinus 
blockage involving mucous accumulations. Several months later we evaluated 
several deep-breathing protocols for aiding in poor oxygen intake (the most 
effective one being the technique Wayne Fugitt posted at his website). There is 
yet, another protocol we have recently stumbled upon, which promises 
  quite effective aid in addressing many of the more challenging/chronic 
pulmonary insults. The protocol involves a very simple mechanical device 
invented by an acoustics engineer named Sandy Hawkins. The device is nothing 
more than type of vibrating reed fabricated from a plastic tube and a reed-thin 
strip which vibrates the chestdislodging mucous accumulations/impacted 
debris located in the lungs. Rapid,favorable, results 
  have been reported by a research group with whom we exchange information on a 
regular basis. 
  For those interested in reviewing an article on Mr. Hawkins efforts---and 
results---one may 
  obtain a copy of the December 2009 issue of Popular Science Magazine. 
  Sincerely, Brooks Bradley. -- 

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Ode Coyote]

 For any sort of "CS" to work there, you'll need your intestines to be 
completely empty.


Ode


At 06:07 PM 4/2/2009 -0700, you wrote:

I would llike to know how much mesosilver one would take a day for an 
intestinal infection, and for how many days. are there certain foods or 
vitamins that you should not take silver with? Thanks

emma



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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[MaryAnn Helland]

Uh-oh -- looks like we got a spammer!!!
MA





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To: shielashi...@hotmail.com; silver-list@eskimo.com; 
smartdr...@yahoogroups.com; staci_kurt...@gallup.com; 
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vadaensmin...@yahoo.com; weda...@cfl.rr.com; windwa...@artofplacement.com
Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 5:17:12 AM
Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!


http://ybijucimohy.blogspot.com 

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Day Sutton]

If anybody opens this, let me know if it crashes your computer.   If not
what is the subject ?

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 6:17 AM,  wrote:

> http://ybijucimohy.blogspot.com
>
>


-- 
Day Sutton
day.sut...@gmail.com

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Pat]

Drug selling site.  Can it be dangerous to go to a .com website?
Pat





From: Day Sutton 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 9:42:28 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

If anybody opens this, let me know if it crashes your computer.   If not what 
is 
the subject ?


On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 6:17 AM,  wrote:

http://ybijucimohy.blogspot.com 
>


-- 
Day Sutton
day.sut...@gmail.com


  

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[PT Ferrance]

Yes.  You should have good security software.
PT





From: Pat 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 10:23:10 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!


Drug selling site.  Can it be dangerous to go to a .com website?
Pat





From: Day Sutton 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, October 31, 2010 9:42:28 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

If anybody opens this, let me know if it crashes your computer.   If not what 
is 
the subject ?


On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 6:17 AM,  wrote:

http://ybijucimohy.blogspot.com 
>


-- 
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[MaryAnn Helland]

Deborah -- you been hacked
MA





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checkthesh...@yahoo.com; dianaanderson...@yahoo.com
Sent: Sun, July 31, 2011 6:07:30 PM
Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!


http://suresnet.com/test.php?html4501 

RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[PTFerrance]

Mike, I think we are being spammed!

PT

 

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RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Norton, Steve]

Carrole,
 I asked another question of the manufacturer :

No problem answering your questions.

You are correct about the time. The unit has a built in
TDS type sensing circuit but no read out. If the machine runs for 3 hr
and shuts off you will have CS. What ppm depends upon the initial
setting and the purity of the water. If you have a TDS meter measure the
water before and after the run...subtract the initial reading from the
final and multiply by
1.2 which will give you approx ppm of silver. 

Paul

On 8/15/2008 12:09:25 PM, Norton, Steve
(stephen.nor...@ngc.com) wrote:
> Paul,
> Sorry to bother you again. This should be the last
time.
> 
> I am not interested in learning any proprietary
information. The unit 
> in question is the  CS Master AC. Your product
information says that 
> the completion of a CS generation is not determined by
time. My guess 
> is that you are making some sort of measurement
similar to a TDS test.

> Question, is it possible for the unit to terminate
generation after 3 
> hours and CS not to have been made?
 
 Is there any chance you have contaminated DS? This could explain the
low level of CS if it is contaniminated but not bad enough to trip the
water quality monitor in your generator. It could also be that the unit
isn't operating correctly. I think your observations of a faint beam
with the laser pointer indicates low ppm CS. Is there anything you are
doing during the process, such as cleaning the electrodes that could
cause contanimation? You could also try running the same batch twice if
the generator will let you.  With a digital multimeter you could check
your setup for voltage and current:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92020

Or get a TDS meter:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170250480664&ssPageNa
me=MERC_VIC_RSCC_Pr12_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=170239081511&itemcount=1
2&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&refwidgetty
pe=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m183&_trkparms=algo%3DDR%26its%3DS%2
52BI%252BSS%26itu%3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D12

It might be worth the expense. 
 - Steve



From: Carrole Orme [mailto:captain_sun...@yahoo.ca] 
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 12:22 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!


 Why do you think you aren't making strong CS???
Ode
Hi Ode
I think I am making CS but not very strong It is very clear absolutely
no fragments I use to get some
  It use to taste a little more metal now nothing
The beam is very faint and when I had checked after the 1st few months
it was quite strong
also about the blackining of the rod
I said or meant some blackening it was not a lot but more then now 
I have never seen what anyone elses looks like 
I would say it was not heavy 
You would just see some on the rod
 I really don't know if it was one or both rods I never payed attention
to that
Thanks
Carrole

RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Norton, Steve]

I meant DW not DS below.



 
 Is there any chance you have contaminated DS? This could explain the
low level of CS if it is contaniminated but not bad enough to trip the
water quality monitor in your generator. It could also be that the unit
isn't operating correctly. I think your observations of a faint beam
with the laser pointer indicates low ppm CS. Is there anything you are
doing during the process, such as cleaning the electrodes that could
cause contanimation? You could also try running the same batch twice if
the generator will let you.  With a digital multimeter you could check
your setup for voltage and current:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92020



Or get a TDS meter: 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170250480664&ssPageNa
me=MERC_VIC_RSCC_Pr12_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=170239081511&itemcount=1
2&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&refwidgetty
pe=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m183&_trkparms=algo%3DDR%26its%3DS%2
52BI%252BSS%26itu%3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D12
 

It might be worth the expense. 
 - Steve 

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Faith Gagne]

RE: CS>Unidentified subject!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Norton, Steve 
  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 4:44 PM
  Subject: RE: CS>Unidentified subject!


  I meant DW not DS below.



--
   
   Is there any chance you have contaminated DS? This could explain the low 
level of CS if it is contaniminated but not bad enough to trip the water 
quality monitor in your generator. It could also be that the unit isn't 
operating correctly. I think your observations of a faint beam with the laser 
pointer indicates low ppm CS. Is there anything you are doing during the 
process, such as cleaning the electrodes that could cause contanimation? You 
could also try running the same batch twice if the generator will let you.  
With a digital multimeter you could check your setup for voltage and current:
  http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=92020 

  Or get a TDS meter: 

  
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170250480664&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RSCC_Pr12_PcY_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=170239081511&itemcount=12&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=StoreCatToStoreCat&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget&_trksid=p284.m183&_trkparms=algo%3DDR%26its%3DS%252BI%252BSS%26itu%3DISS%252BUCI%252BSI%26otn%3D12

  It might be worth the expense. 
   - Steve 

  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..



  Hi Steve.  How does one use a TDS meter?  Thanks.  Faith G.

RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Norton, Steve]

 Faith,
It is very easy. See:
 
http://www.ozelink.com/tds_meters/how_to_use.htm
 
However TDS meters don't measure colloidal silver directly and so you
need to multiply the reading on the TDS meter by a constant to get an
estimate of the colloidal silver ppm. I have seen it recommended that
you multiply the TDS reading by 1.2 (Colloidal Silver Master
manufacturer) up to multiply by 2.0 (colloidalsilver.com) to get the
colloidal silver ppm. I have been using 2.0 but may change closer to the
1.2 to be conservative. I am not sure how importance absolute accuracy
is if you are primarily looking for consistency and to verify setup
operation.
 
Question for the group: What multiplier do you use and how accurate do
you think your measurements are???

Just make sure the TDS meter probe is not contaminated when measuring,
make sure there are no bubbles on the probe tips and do not try to
measure moving water (keep TDS meter still in water).
 - Steve
 
 
 ..

 

Hi Steve.  How does one use a TDS meter?  Thanks.  Faith G.

 

 

 


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Faith Gagne]

However TDS meters don't measure colloidal silver directly and so you
need to multiply the reading on the TDS meter by a constant to get an
estimate of the colloidal silver ppm.







Steve, what measures ppm?  I know it's been mentioned on this site but I was 
not ready to really pay attention.  thanks.  Faith G.






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RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Ode Coyote]

 A 2 week old batch metering at 12 uS was sent to AA Spec testing.
 Came out at 11.9 PPM total  @ 15% unmeterable particulate. [Strong TE]
 Weak TE, fudge down a couple of PPM.

 A Com-100 reading conductivity in a batch reads 18.3 uS and  8.4 PPM when 
switched to PPM in the NaCl scale
1.5 numerical difference when doubled. Conversion error by doubling uS is 
half that?


 Is that a 1.75 multiplier? [Not great at arithmetic ]

Ode


At 05:09 PM 8/15/2008 -0500, you wrote:


 Faith,
It is very easy. See:

http://www.ozelink.com/tds_meters/how_to_use.htm

However TDS meters don't measure colloidal silver directly and so you
need to multiply the reading on the TDS meter by a constant to get an
estimate of the colloidal silver ppm. I have seen it recommended that
you multiply the TDS reading by 1.2 (Colloidal Silver Master
manufacturer) up to multiply by 2.0 (colloidalsilver.com) to get the
colloidal silver ppm. I have been using 2.0 but may change closer to the
1.2 to be conservative. I am not sure how importance absolute accuracy
is if you are primarily looking for consistency and to verify setup
operation.

Question for the group: What multiplier do you use and how accurate do
you think your measurements are???

Just make sure the TDS meter probe is not contaminated when measuring,
make sure there are no bubbles on the probe tips and do not try to
measure moving water (keep TDS meter still in water).
 - Steve


 ..



Hi Steve.  How does one use a TDS meter?  Thanks.  Faith G.








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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Ode Coyote]

 An Atomic Absorption Spectrophotometer will measure PPM.


Got 10 to 250 grand, a big closet to put it in and a techie to run it?

Not me.
 I'll hang with a good guess.

Ode



At 07:01 PM 8/15/2008 -0400, you wrote:


However TDS meters don't measure colloidal silver directly and so you
need to multiply the reading on the TDS meter by a constant to get an
estimate of the colloidal silver ppm.




Steve, what measures ppm?  I know it's been mentioned on this site but I 
was not ready to really pay attention.  thanks.  Faith G.






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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Tony Moody]

On 15 Aug 2008 at 12:21, Carrole Orme wrote about :
Subject : CS>Unidentified subject!

>  Why do you think you aren't making strong CS???
> Ode
> Hi Ode
> I think I am making CS but not very strong It is very clear absolutely no
> fragments I use to get some   It use to taste a little more metal now nothing
> The beam is very faint and when I had checked after the 1st few months it was
> quite strong also about the blackining of the rod I said or meant some
> blackening it was not a lot but more then now I have never seen what anyone
> elses looks like I would say it was not heavy You would just see some on the
> rod  I really don't know if it was one or both rods I never payed attention to
> that Thanks Carrole
>

Hi Carrole,

I could be that the first batch of water was not as pure as that used for 
the second batch. So the CS was made quicker and rougher than your second
batch.

OK,
Tony


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[aslraven]

Did someone send a junk mail ?

On Jan 6, 2013, at 1:40 AM, Carol Ann  wrote:

> http://ugurmumcuanaokullari.com/fpbs.php?pfac=pfac

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[V]

h, now I am getting everything in duplicate?


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> Did someone send a junk mail ?
>
> On Jan 6, 2013, at 1:40 AM, Carol Ann  wrote:
>
> http://ugurmumcuanaokullari.com/fpbs.php?pfac=pfac


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Garnet]

Emu oil is penetrating but nothing even close the what DMSO does. So it
depends on your target tissue. If it is just wound care and subdermal
layers Emu Oil is adequate and does not have some of the draw backs of
DMSO. I would use DMSO for internal use myself. I do love Emu Oil for
preventing the drying effect DMSO has on the skin though.

Were you under a physician's care or guidance when you did the
instillations? 

I have not heard that CS is alkalizing, but that does not mean it is
not. We have ideas about how it works but it seems to have far reacting
health benefits that are not fully explained. And it is unlikely that
anyone is going to fund the research to find out. 

The urinary burning could have simply been a highly acid urine. That can
happen just with dietary changes so it is difficult to say if it was
caused by the DMSO. You could contact www.dmso.org or www.jacoblab.com
and ask them if it has this effect. There should be information out
there though since it is the only FDA approved use of DMSO.

Here is the link for the DMSO list I moderate:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO

Garnet


On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 16:51, Betsy Coffey wrote:
> Hi folks,
> I have been reading with interest about dmso and
> silver. I am doing alot of research on both of these
> things. I had several questions to address to this
> forum. Does, silver help alkalize the body? It is hard
> when you have problems with salt because so many
> alkalizing formulas are sodium based.Also, I have been
> reading the dmso can be harmful to kidneys and nervous
> system. I have used it for cystits(instillations) and
> orally for jaw infection. It actually made my cystitis
> worse but I think it helped my jaw however, it gave me
> alot of urinary burning and I had difficulty with
> kidney pain after using it.
> Maybe it was to strong. 
> The last thing I wanted to say was that I have heard
> that Emu oil is a good carrier and penetrative agent
> and was wondering if this could be substituted with
> Collodial silver instead of DMSO for jaw or any other
> internal use.
> Thank you
> 
> __
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> http://mail.yahoo.com
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[mborgert]

Dear Garnet
I have been reading your information for awhile I would like to ask you a 
question can using dmso with emu oil or coconut oil help me with my extreme dry 
skin?  I have been going to drs. for 40 yrs for this and all they say is that 
it is from my father and it cannot be reversed.
Can you please advise?  Also serium vit c on the face with dmso will the vit c 
penatrate deeper? or will it cause problems?
thanks
mary lou

-- Original message from Garnet : -- 

> 
> Emu oil is penetrating but nothing even close the what DMSO does. So it 
> depends on your target tissue. If it is just wound care and subdermal 
> layers Emu Oil is adequate and does not have some of the draw backs of 
> DMSO. I would use DMSO for internal use myself. I do love Emu Oil for 
> preventing the drying effect DMSO has on the skin though. 
> 
> Were you under a physician's care or guidance when you did the 
> instillations? 
> 
> I have not heard that CS is alkalizing, but that does not mean it is 
> not. We have ideas about how it works but it seems to have far reacting 
> health benefits that are not fully explained. And it is unlikely that 
> anyone is going to fund the research to find out. 
> 
> The urinary burning could have simply been a highly acid urine. That can 
> happen just with dietary changes so it is difficult to say if it was 
> caused by the DMSO. You could contact www.dmso.org or www.jacoblab.com 
> and ask them if it has this effect. There should be information out 
> there though since it is the only FDA approved use of DMSO. 
> 
> Here is the link for the DMSO list I moderate: 
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DimethylSulfoxide-DMSO 
> 
> Garnet 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 16:51, Betsy Coffey wrote: 
> > Hi folks, 
> > I have been reading with interest about dmso and 
> > silver. I am doing alot of research on both of these 
> > things. I had several questions to address to this 
> > forum. Does, silver help alkalize the body? It is hard 
> > when you have problems with salt because so many 
> > alkalizing formulas are sodium based.Also, I have been 
> > reading the dmso can be harmful to kidneys and nervous 
> > system. I have used it for cystits(instillations) and 
> > orally for jaw infection. It actually made my cystitis 
> > worse but I think it helped my jaw however, it gave me 
> > alot of urinary burning and I had difficulty with 
> > kidney pain after using it. 
> > Maybe it was to strong. 
> > The last thing I wanted to say was that I have heard 
> > that Emu oil is a good carrier and penetrative agent 
> > and was wondering if this could be substituted with 
> > Collodial silver instead of DMSO for jaw or any other 
> > internal use. 
> > Thank you 
> > 
> > __ 
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Garnet]

Emu Oil alone is VERY good for dry skin. It penetrates to subdermal
layers unlike most oils and it does not feel oily. 

DMSO is used topically to deliver vitamins, multi-vitamins and single
vitamins. I use it for B12 and Folic. www.mercola.com has an article
about this.

Guess it could be a genetic lack of oil glands. Accutane, the acne
medicine works by destroying or disabling (?) oil glands but they are
suppose to come back after it is stopped. 

I have heard that Virgin Organic Coconut oil is very good. I would
google it. It costs about $15 a lb at Whole Foods, the commercial stuff
is about $4. I have heard that it must be Virgin to get the full benefit
and of course organic ensures no toxic pesticide or chemicals from
processing.

DMSO on the face or other sensitive skin areas can cause redness and
even blistering. So dilute it to 10-30%. Patch test before using it with
the Vit C or putting it on a large area. The back of the knee and the
inside of the elbow have similar sensitivity to the face so you could
test there rather than risk a blistered face.

Pretreating the area with Aloe Vera gel before DMSO is suppose to help
with drying. Emu Oil after DMSO helps restore oils as DMSO is a
de-fatting and dehydrating agent.

Let us know how it works out if you try it. Dry skin can be a real
challenge and I can sure appreciate your long term struggle.

I once took Walnut Oil, 1 T a day to moisturize my skin. It did help
during the summer when I was in the Sun. I was just experimenting and
did not continue it. It has been so long I forget where I read about it
or why Walnut Oil. I do find it a tasty oil on a salad, with lots of
salt and maybe some walnuts or pecans.

Flax Oil or Udo's oil is good for supply essential fatty acids in a
concentrated form. Udo's is a blend of Omega 3,6 and 9. If you eat much
Canola, Sunflower or Safflower oil in your diet you are already getting
6 and 9. Not sure what VOC has in the way of EFAs. I am sure there are
many discussions of VOC out there. Try searching Yahoo Groups to see if
there is a VOC list. Or even a dry skin list.

Garnet


On Sun, 2004-09-19 at 19:38, mborg...@att.net wrote:
> Dear Garnet
> 
> I have been reading your information for awhile I would like to ask
> you a question can using dmso with emu oil or coconut oil help me with
> my extreme dry skin?  I have been going to drs. for 40 yrs for this
> and all they say is that it is from my father and it cannot be
> reversed.
> 
> Can you please advise?  Also serium vit c on the face with dmso will
> the vit c penatrate deeper? or will it cause problems?
> 
> thanks
> 
> mary lou



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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[T J Garland]

If Codex passes will the cereal companies and other food companies be
allowed to add them to their foods?  TJ
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Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!


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RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[ruth strackbein]

From Ruth Strackbein




From: "ruth strackbein" 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
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Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2006 15:49:18 -0500




From Ruth Strackbein, Hi, I have followed your instructions and did get the 
machine to put my new mail first in a group.  The rest of it is arranged by 
date only by month rather than by year.  That is okay , now that I realize 
that is the lineup.  It will be nice to have the new mail all at the 
beginning again.   I learn something new just about every day!  Thanks for 
your input.  I had no idea all those things were available.  RuthP.S.  I 
should have said "this machine".  I always use the same one at the library, 
get to thinking of it as mine!




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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[William Missett]

Ruth, you can't imagine how happy we are that you have solved this problem.


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Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!






From Ruth Strackbein, Hi, I have followed your instructions and did get 
the machine to put my new mail first in a group.  The rest of it is 
arranged by date only by month rather than by year.  That is okay , now 
that I realize that is the lineup.  It will be nice to have the new mail 
all at the beginning again.   I learn something new just about every day! 
Thanks for your input.  I had no idea all those things were available. 
Ruth




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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[V]

Hi nathan,

http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

  I would include this one due to the important piece of information
  it has about silver.

  V

> Hi everyone,

> can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites
> i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs
> as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs time
> i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the 
> aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are respected
> in the cs community.

> i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him to get a
> clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that surround
> cs use,
> any suggestions would be appreciated

> thanks alot
> Nathan

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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Ode Coyote]

www.silvermedicine.org

At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote:


Hi nathan,

http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

  I would include this one due to the important piece of information
  it has about silver.

  V

> Hi everyone,

> can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites
> i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs
> as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs time
> i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the
> aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are respected
> in the cs community.

> i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him to get a
> clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that surround
> cs use,
> any suggestions would be appreciated

> thanks alot
> Nathan

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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Ronald (& Susan)]

http://www.americanbiotechlabs.com/index.html However,  their 
shopping cart is not operational.


This site has it though  http://www.hartamerica.com
[ http://www.hartamerica.com/ASAP%20Silver%20Solution.htm ]
Ron

Ode Coyote wrote:



www.silvermedicine.org

At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote:


Hi nathan,

http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

  I would include this one due to the important piece of information
  it has about silver.

  V

> Hi everyone,

> can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites
> i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs
> as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs 
time

> i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the
> aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are 
respected

> in the cs community.

> i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him 
to get a
> clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that 
surround

> cs use,
> any suggestions would be appreciated

> thanks alot
> Nathan







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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Ronald (& Susan)]

Read about the only US patent of CS that we're aware of.
http://tinyurl.com/y9ann6


Ron



Ode Coyote wrote:



www.silvermedicine.org

At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote:


Hi nathan,

http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

  I would include this one due to the important piece of information
  it has about silver.

  V

> Hi everyone,

> can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites
> i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs
> as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a 
halfs time

> i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the
> aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are 
respected

> in the cs community.

> i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him 
to get a
> clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that 
surround

> cs use,
> any suggestions would be appreciated

> thanks alot
> Nathan







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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Ode Coyote]

  American Biotech is pretty much infamous for double talk and misleading 
ad copy.

 Our CS is patented?  Not exactly.
Their first "patented" process consisted of 6 off the shelf CS Pro 
generators in a vat with a stirrer.  The "design" patent covered multiple 
electrodes with a stirrer...a design claim that could easily be challenged.
 Today, they use an HVAC or HVDC reversing polarity generator with a 
"patented" automatic feedback controlled screw feed for the electrodes.
 The patent also claims ownership of a circuit that every electronics 
engineer learned in school since the vacuum tube days.
 The HVAC/ HVDC CS "process" is not patented in any case and is no 
different than anyone elses.


They no longer publish the patent numbers so you can look them up and see 
how irrelevant the patents are.


 ASAP Solution is good silver water, but not better or significantly 
different than what you can make yourself.


ode

At 06:05 PM 11/22/2006 -0500, you wrote:

http://www.americanbiotechlabs.com/index.html However,  their shopping 
cart is not operational.


This site has it though  http://www.hartamerica.com
[ http://www.hartamerica.com/ASAP%20Silver%20Solution.htm ]
Ron

Ode Coyote wrote:



www.silvermedicine.org

At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote:


Hi nathan,

http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

  I would include this one due to the important piece of information
  it has about silver.

  V

> Hi everyone,

> can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites
> i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs
> as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs time
> i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the
> aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are 
respected

> in the cs community.

> i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him to 
get a
> clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that 
surround

> cs use,
> any suggestions would be appreciated

> thanks alot
> Nathan






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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Ode Coyote]

  Interesting.
 But that has been done for at least 20 years by thousands of people 
before the patent was filed.

 I should patent the wheel. I don't believe anyone ever has.

 Silver Tetroxide has also been recently patented as has an age old 
substance, Silver Citrate.


 A patent is nothing more than a documented basis for a rights fight, but 
is by no means a guarantee that such a fight could possibly be won...nor 
does it mean the item actually "works" as claimed [or doesn't]


ode


At 06:31 PM 11/22/2006 -0500, you wrote:


Read about the only US patent of CS that we're aware of.
http://tinyurl.com/y9ann6


Ron



Ode Coyote wrote:



www.silvermedicine.org

At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote:


Hi nathan,

http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

  I would include this one due to the important piece of information
  it has about silver.

  V

> Hi everyone,

> can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites
> i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs
> as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs time
> i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the
> aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are 
respected

> in the cs community.

> i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him to 
get a
> clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that 
surround

> cs use,
> any suggestions would be appreciated

> thanks alot
> Nathan






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RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Peter M. Stellas]

Ken,

I, for one, certainly appreciate your knowledgeable comments, such as the
one on ASAP solution and the patent claims. As you know, newbies come on
this forum and into this discipline every day and are easily snowed by
high-sounding techno-babble, as we try to educate ourselves on this subject.
I appreciate and admire your totally unselfish quality, in that you give of
your knowledge freely even though it helps someone to make his/her own
generator, rather than buying one from you.

Peter
 




   American Biotech is pretty much infamous for double talk and misleading 
ad copy.

  ASAP Solution is good silver water, but not better or significantly 
different than what you can make yourself.

ode





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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Marshall Dudley]

That's odd, that patent is almost identical to one I filed 4 years 
earlier then that one for the production of CS using 10,000 volts AC.  
Mine was denied because they said it was old art, nothing new.


Marshall

Ronald (& Susan) wrote:

Read about the only US patent of CS that we're aware of.
http://tinyurl.com/y9ann6


Ron



Ode Coyote wrote:



www.silvermedicine.org

At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote:


Hi nathan,

http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

  I would include this one due to the important piece of information
  it has about silver.

  V

> Hi everyone,

> can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites
> i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs
> as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a 
halfs time
> i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all 
the
> aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are 
respected

> in the cs community.

> i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him 
to get a
> clear picture without being confused by all the finer details 
that surround

> cs use,
> any suggestions would be appreciated

> thanks alot
> Nathan







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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Ode Coyote]

  They had better lawyers, but that doesn't make the patent any good.
It's there for intimidation purposes to "discourage" competition.
 Should intimidation not work and an infringement fight crop up, they'll 
lose both the case and the patent and they know it.


 Spending time in the patent office files reveals that for every patent, 
there are many that are virtually identical and most contain the highest 
order of doublespeak to make it seem to cover the universe. [That's the new 
art of it all. ;-) ]


Ode

At 10:27 AM 11/24/2006 -0500, you wrote:

That's odd, that patent is almost identical to one I filed 4 years earlier 
then that one for the production of CS using 10,000 volts AC.

Mine was denied because they said it was old art, nothing new.

Marshall

Ronald (& Susan) wrote:

Read about the only US patent of CS that we're aware of.
http://tinyurl.com/y9ann6


Ron



Ode Coyote wrote:



www.silvermedicine.org

At 12:13 AM 11/21/2006 -0800, you wrote:


Hi nathan,

http://www.rexresearch.com/becker/becker1.htm

  I would include this one due to the important piece of information
  it has about silver.

  V

> Hi everyone,

> can anyone suggest their top 5 cs sites
> i want to introduce a friend of mine to cs
> as he is leaving to go to india for six weeks in a week and a halfs 
time

> i want to point him to sites that are informative, that cover all the
> aspects of cs and cs use, that have correct information, and are 
respected

> in the cs community.

> i realise that there are a million sites out there but i want him 
to get a
> clear picture without being confused by all the finer details that 
surround

> cs use,
> any suggestions would be appreciated

> thanks alot
> Nathan






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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Jack Dayton]

David S Osborne   12/15/03 9:53 AM  Wrote:

> sage extract???
> 
> http://www.herbsmd.com/shop/xq/asp/pid.8304/qx/productdetail.htm
> 


Thanks Dave,

but I am looking for SAGE OIL EXTRACT CAPSULES
as used by the 2 Canadian universities in their studies.

Jack

Be Nice





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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Al Davis]

http://www.herbalremedies.com/sagoil100pur.html?source=google&engine=adwords!32&keyword=%28sage+oil+extract%29

A quick search on Google for sage oil capsules got 44,500 hits.


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To: 
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Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!


> David S Osborne   12/15/03 9:53 AM  Wrote:
>
> > sage extract???
> >
> > http://www.herbsmd.com/shop/xq/asp/pid.8304/qx/productdetail.htm
> >
> 
>
> Thanks Dave,
>
> but I am looking for SAGE OIL EXTRACT CAPSULES
> as used by the 2 Canadian universities in their studies.
>
> Jack
>
> Be Nice
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[James Holmes]

Yes.  Successfully, several times.  Mixed with approx 15% DMSO.  It may be
effective introduced in the nose with a dropper, for maxillary infections or
sinus.  Lay supine on  bed with head hanging over the edge.
If possible, a chair or other support on which to rest the head is much more
comfortable on the neck. 

JOH

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Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2004 4:00 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!


I was wondering if anyone has used silver for an infected tooth..I simply
cannot take antibiotics!...Phyl


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Hank]

Hi, I use OE so haven't seen hotmail on line in a long time. I just went and 
had a look. At the top of the letters it will say From, Subject, Date and Size, 
You can click the Date to change the incoming to the top or bottom. Click any 
of them till you get them arranged the way you want them.  
Yours Hank
  - Original Message - 
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 7:37 PM
  Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!


  This new stupid hotmail is ordering the messages  with the newest at the top 
  of the page. I give up. How do i make the last message go to the bottom of 
  the list?  I really hate computers. Is the world that much better-off?



  TJ Garland, CMO supplier

  There are no incurable illnesses-only incurable people

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[M. G. Devour]

Ruth Strackbein writes: 
> To All, do any of you have information about a group called water oz?
> There is a person in my locality who sells cs water through this
> company. He claims that one should only use a teaspoon of this stuff a
> day. He implied that it would be dangerous to use it by the cupful like
> many of you do. Thanks for any information.  

That's consistent with our experience, Ruth. A couple of people we know 
of developed mild cases of argyria by using Water Oz in quantities in 
excess of that recommended by the manufacturer.

It's a much higher concentration than the stuff we generally talk about 
here. It's been analysed and shown to be a silver compound, which is 
the only thing that allows it to be of higher concentration to begin 
with. 

Yes, it's unsafe to use Water Oz in too large quantities. 

Whether it's safe to use in smaller quantities is something I, 
personally, am not interested in finding out, particularly when low 
concentration, pure silver colloid/ionic preparations are easily and 
cheaply made at home with simple equipment and have so far failed to 
produce similar problems.

Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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[Speaking only for myself...   ]


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Marshall Dudley]

Water oz is silver citrate, and implicated in a number of cases of
argyria from what I understand.  You can easily make you own by putting
some citric acid into the water when you try to make CS, but I would not
recommend it.

Marshall

ruth strackbein wrote:

>
>
>  From Ruth Strackbein: To All, do any of you have information about a
> group called water oz? There is a person in my locality who sells cs
> water through this company.  He claims that one should only use a
> teaspoon of this stuff a day.  He implied that it would be dangerous
> to use it by the cupful like many of you do.  Thanks for any
> information. Ruth
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[ruth strackbein]

From Ruth Strackbein, Thanks to you, too, Mike.  I am in process of getting my steam distiller fixed.  That is step one toward getting equipped to make cs.  Ruth

From: "M. G. Devour" Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.comTo: silver-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 13:11:04 -5>Ruth Strackbein writes:> > To All, do any of you have information about a group called water oz?> > There is a person in my locality who sells cs water through this> > company. He claims that one should only use a teaspoon of this stuff a> > day. He implied that it would be dangerous to use it by the cupful like> > many of you do. Thanks for any information.>>That's consistent with our experience, Ruth. A couple of people we know>of developed mild cases of argyria by using Water Oz in quantities in>excess of that recommended by the manufacturer.>>It's a much 
higher concentration than the stuff we generally talk about>here. It's been analysed and shown to be a silver compound, which is>the only thing that allows it to be of higher concentration to begin>with.>>Yes, it's unsafe to use Water Oz in too large quantities.>>Whether it's safe to use in smaller quantities is something I,>personally, am not interested in finding out, particularly when low>concentration, pure silver colloid/ionic preparations are easily and>cheaply made at home with simple equipment and have so far failed to>produce similar problems.>>Be well,>>Mike D.>>[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]>[mdev...@eskimo.com ]>[Speaking only for myself... ]>>>-->The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing 
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[cking001]

You're not supposed to DRINK the water from a water softener.
Bad for the heart.
I believe the salts they use are the problem.

Anyway, this got proved to me one year when a neighbor showed me his
tomato seedlings. He wondered why they were doing so poorly.
It turned out that he was using water from the softener he had
installed that year.

Fine for washing, showering etc. but NOT drinking or other living
things!

Chuck

I'm not loafing--I work so fast I'm always finished.

On 1/4/2006 8:59:22 PM, ruth strackbein (ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com)
wrote:
> From Ruth Strackbein, Something went awry in sending my last post. I
> didn't get it finished. Later started again and that post wouldn't send.
> Will try again. As with my previous post, I now have a working water
> distiller again. However, have been encouraged to use softened water
> instead of hard water which I had used before the repair. The machine used
> to get covered inside, sides, bottom, and the black rodes that run through
> it, with hard material. Would have to use vinegar in the machine
> periodically to clean the stuff out. Now the hard material
> doesn't seem to accumulate, but the rods do have a whitish coating, 
> especially the lower curved shorter rod. The local man whose family sells 
> these midi-stills, wondered if my water softener is working as it should. I 
> live alone and the machine regenerates every other day. At present it is 
> regenerating during the day. I just make sure I don't
> do laundry or bath when it is regenerating. My question is, how can I tell
> if my water is really ideally soft on a regular basis? How would the use
> of hard or soft water affect CS making? Thanks. Ruth
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Robert Berger]

Hi Ruth,
   
  Hard water has mineral carbonates that cause the hard build-up in you still.
   
  Soft water basically has the same minerals but the compounds has been changed 
so that things do not scale.
   
  Either water when distilled will make good silver solutions.
   
  "Ole bob"

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[4optimallife]

If you must drink softened water, it is better to use potassium rather than 
the sodium to soften the water.  Costs about $1 a bag more.  You may have to 
search a bit for it.


Kallie
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From: 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!




You're not supposed to DRINK the water from a water softener.
Bad for the heart.
I believe the salts they use are the problem.

Anyway, this got proved to me one year when a neighbor showed me his
tomato seedlings. He wondered why they were doing so poorly.
It turned out that he was using water from the softener he had
installed that year.

Fine for washing, showering etc. but NOT drinking or other living
things!

Chuck

I'm not loafing--I work so fast I'm always finished.

On 1/4/2006 8:59:22 PM, ruth strackbein (ruthstrackb...@hotmail.com)
wrote:

From Ruth Strackbein, Something went awry in sending my last post. I
didn't get it finished. Later started again and that post wouldn't send.
Will try again. As with my previous post, I now have a working water
distiller again. However, have been encouraged to use softened water
instead of hard water which I had used before the repair. The machine 
used
to get covered inside, sides, bottom, and the black rodes that run 
through

it, with hard material. Would have to use vinegar in the machine
periodically to clean the stuff out. Now the hard material
doesn't seem to accumulate, but the rods do have a whitish coating, 
especially the lower curved shorter rod. The local man whose family sells 
these midi-stills, wondered if my water softener is working as it should. 
I live alone and the machine regenerates every other day. At present it 
is regenerating during the day. I just make sure I don't
do laundry or bath when it is regenerating. My question is, how can I 
tell

if my water is really ideally soft on a regular basis? How would the use
of hard or soft water affect CS making? Thanks. Ruth

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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Stuff]

All this should keep you busy...

http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidalsilverstudytexas.html

The definitive study, last I heard...(pdf)

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Book/SilverColloids-s.pdf

A lot more...

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/pubs.html

http://tinyurl.com/oe5v7

stuff

At 04:12 AM 6/26/2006, Nathan wrote:


hello my name is Nathan,
i use home made ionic collloidal silver regularly and have done for 
5-6 years now
i love it and always find it speeds my recovery by a phenominal rate 
i have recomended it to my family and some close friends, 
hesitantly. Which has proven to be beneficial to them also.

i believe that i have a fairly good understanding about how it works.
but what i really dont understand is why there seems to be no 
available lab test results or definitive studies that have been 
undertaken to prove (or disprove) even the most basic benfits 
involved with its use, that i can find or  maybe i am just not 
looking in the right places.


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[nathan cross]

thanks for the links i was having trouble finding information about research 
that had been done




From: Stuff 
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:11:40 -0500


All this should keep you busy...

http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidalsilverstudytexas.html

The definitive study, last I heard...(pdf)

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Book/SilverColloids-s.pdf

A lot more...

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/pubs.html

http://tinyurl.com/oe5v7

stuff

At 04:12 AM 6/26/2006, Nathan wrote:


hello my name is Nathan,
i use home made ionic collloidal silver regularly and have done for 5-6 
years now
i love it and always find it speeds my recovery by a phenominal rate i 
have recomended it to my family and some close friends, hesitantly. Which 
has proven to be beneficial to them also.

i believe that i have a fairly good understanding about how it works.
but what i really dont understand is why there seems to be no available 
lab test results or definitive studies that have been undertaken to prove 
(or disprove) even the most basic benfits involved with its use, that i 
can find or  maybe i am just not looking in the right places.


[snip]


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Marshall Dudley]

nathan cross wrote:

> hello my name is Nathan,
> i use home made ionic collloidal silver regularly and have done for 5-6
> years now
> i love it and always find it speeds my recovery by a phenominal rate i have
> recomended it to my family and some close friends, hesitantly. Which has
> proven to be beneficial to them also.
> i believe that i have a fairly good understanding about how it works.
> but what i really dont understand is why there seems to be no available lab
> test results or definitive studies that have been undertaken to prove (or
> disprove) even the most basic benfits involved with its use, that i can find
> or  maybe i am just not looking in the right places.
> Please let me know if you know of any.
> the medical profession seems to have its head under a rock when it comes to
> the use of cs always giving the standard reply that it can cause argyria.

They don't have their head under a rock. They realize that if it gained
widespread usage, it would put most of them out of business, thus all the lies
and rhetoric.

>
> which as far as i can tell is only associated with silver salts like silver
> nitrate and silver chloride. Maybe i am miss informed but to me these things
> seem to be arguements that could be laid to rest once and for all with some
> simple testing. It escapes me how the issue of wether or not cs works or if
> it has any side effects has never really been outlined in any official
> report.

It is only caused by ionic forms of silver, such as silver salts, or other
silver compounds.  Take a look at http://www.silver-lightning.com/theory.html
for some good information.

>
> may be i am wrong in what i am writing but i am looking for some good
> answers about cs some facts some proof by someone that has 'credit' among
> the medical profession.

No one that has "credit" among the medical profession is going to promote the
benefits of colloidal silver, they know if they did they would be blackballed.
Probably the best researcher in the group that has run many many test is Brooks
Bradley.

>
> i have all the proof i need to use it for my self daily but it just seems
> such a waste that i cant tell my neighbours ' here are the facts about cs.'
> instead i have to say 'well here is what somebody said is true about cs it
> may or may not be true youll just have to try it and see.' What a cop out,
> in a world that deals in nanotechnology and rocket science, gene
> manipulation and world wide cyber comunication, you wouldnt think it would
> be too hard to get some straight answers about what cs does or doesn't do.

You can get straight answers, you just have to ask the right people. The medical
mafia is NOT the people to ask, they have a vested interest in making it go
away.  As here, you will get straight answers here.

Marshall



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RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Richard Harris]

Hi Stuff,
Thank you for the good info you send to "us seekers" from time to time!
CheckASAP silver sourceand you'll find a company "Biogenics" who
went to Ghana W. Africa and passed their FDA and now can use the dirty
allopathic 4 letter word, CURE to describe their CS. They have millions of
 in contracts in Africa, S. America, C. America and the Far East. They
can claim that their CS cures Tuberculosis, Malaria, Hep A, B, C and
countless other health problems. At the present time, they are having CS
researched at BYU with excellent success. Let me know if I can be of more
help.

Sincerely,
___
Richard Harris, 59 Year FL Pharmacist
448 West Juniata Street
Clermont, FL 34711
http://www.rharrisinc.com
http://www.seasilver.com/reh
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-Original Message-
From: Stuff [mailto:st...@laguna.com.mx]
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 8:12 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!



All this should keep you busy...

http://www.silvermedicine.org/colloidalsilverstudytexas.html

The definitive study, last I heard...(pdf)

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Book/SilverColloids-s.pdf

A lot more...

http://www.silver-colloids.com/Pubs/pubs.html

http://tinyurl.com/oe5v7

stuff

At 04:12 AM 6/26/2006, Nathan wrote:

>hello my name is Nathan,
>i use home made ionic collloidal silver regularly and have done for
>5-6 years now
>i love it and always find it speeds my recovery by a phenominal rate
>i have recomended it to my family and some close friends,
>hesitantly. Which has proven to be beneficial to them also.
>i believe that i have a fairly good understanding about how it works.
>but what i really dont understand is why there seems to be no
>available lab test results or definitive studies that have been
>undertaken to prove (or disprove) even the most basic benfits
>involved with its use, that i can find or  maybe i am just not
>looking in the right places.

[snip]


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Marshall Dudley]

Sodium chlorite is NaClO2.  I am not sure if ionic silver would combine with
sodium chlorite or not, but if it did it would produce silver chlorite, a high
explosive.  I would personally not combine the two.

Marshall

nathan cross wrote:

> hello everyone,
>
> does anybody know what happens when you mix Sodium Chlorite and cs in your
> system together.
> i am thinking about using this product
> http://neveranoutbreak.com/store/bol_oxygen.php to raise my Ph levels or
> make my system more alkaline and less acidic but i am worried about the
> mention of Sodium Chlorite sounds to me that it might mix with cs to form
> some type of unwanted colloidal salt compound.
> or would it be alright to use the two together but taken at diferent times
> maybe, giving each a chance to work and not create a conflict of interests
> any advice appretiated
>
> kind thanks nathan
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Mike Monett]

  Marshall Dudley  wrote:

  > Sodium chlorite  is  NaClO2. I am not sure if  ionic  silver would
  > combine with  sodium  chlorite  or not, but  if  it  did  it would
  > produce silver chlorite, a high explosive. I would  personally not
  > combine the two.

  > Marshall

  I use  it  all  the  time to do the  salt  test.  Bleach  is  a good
  substitute for  canning salt, and gives a similar  white dispersion.
  Ammonia dissolves  it just like the silver chloride  dispersion from
  salt, but I did a quick search and couldn't find any equations.

  Even if  it gave silver chlorite, the amount is so tiny there  is no
  danger of  any  harm.  For  example,  the  amount  of  silver  in 50
  millilitres of 16uS cs is only 0.8 milligram. That is not  enough to
  do anything.

  Also, it  has to be dry before becoming sensitive. So  you  can just
  pour it  down  the drain where it will be  diluted  to insignificant
  levels.

Mike M


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Marshall Dudley]

Mike Monett wrote:

>   Marshall Dudley  wrote:
>
>   > Sodium chlorite  is  NaClO2. I am not sure if  ionic  silver would
>   > combine with  sodium  chlorite  or not, but  if  it  did  it would
>   > produce silver chlorite, a high explosive. I would  personally not
>   > combine the two.
>
>   > Marshall
>
>   I use  it  all  the  time to do the  salt  test.

I don't see how it could do the salt test? The salt test requires the
production of an insoluble, or sparingly soluble compound of silver, such
as silver chloride. Silver chlorite has a solubility of about 10 grams per
liter, and should never form a precipitate at the concentrations of CS.
Where do you even get sodium chlorite?

> Bleach  is  a good
>   substitute for  canning salt, and gives a similar  white dispersion.
>   Ammonia dissolves  it just like the silver chloride  dispersion from
>   salt, but I did a quick search and couldn't find any equations.

That is sodium hypochlorite, which I think ends up forming silver chloride
and releasing oxygen.  In that case it should behave like sodium chloride
for doing a "aslt test".

Marshall



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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Mike Monett]

Marshall Dudley  wrote:

>Mike Monett wrote:

[...]

>> Bleach  is  a good
>>   substitute for  canning salt, and gives a similar  white dispersion.
>>   Ammonia dissolves  it just like the silver chloride  dispersion from
>>   salt, but I did a quick search and couldn't find any equations.

>That is sodium hypochlorite, which I think ends up forming silver chloride
>and releasing oxygen.  In that case it should behave like sodium chloride
>for doing a "aslt test".
>
>Marshall

OK, thanks. I got NaOCl and NaClO2 mixed up.

For the "alst test" using NaOCl, I couldn't find any equations but it looks
like it is probably

  2Ag(+) + 2NaOCl --> 2Na(+) + O2 + 2AgCl

So the oxygen is just stuck on like O3 and H2O2, which is why household
bleach decomposes fairly rapidly. You can see graphs here or download
software to do the calculation at different temperatures:

  http://www.powellfab.com/technical_information/tools/decompsoftware.asp

Mike M


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Marshall Dudley]

Interesing thing is that I contacted the epa about a year ago and asked if I
could sell aspertame as an ant poison.  Apparently I cannot, I have to do
testing to determine that it is not too toxic for the environment.

Really strange that the FDA says that is is nontoxic enough for people to
ingest, jet the epa thinks it may be too toxic to put into the enviornment.

Marshall

David S Osborne wrote:

> http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/biopesticides/ingredients/factsheets/factsh
> eet_072503.htm
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RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Richard Harris]

Hi Marshall,
Thanks for all that You, Mike, Jason, Herx & others on this site do to
increase our knowledge and prepare us to help others! Your story is very
revealing about the bureaucratic monstrosity in which we attempt to
operate--PITY! Despite these problems, God has blessed us so richly in this
wonderful country!
Let's resolve to continue to lead and point out the better ways so we can
continue to help those less fortunate. Hooray for the wonderful blessing of
CS! May each of us strive to improve on our products to make them more
effective for everyone.
Sincerely,
Richard Harris, 56 yr FL Pharmacist

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Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:15 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!


Interesing thing is that I contacted the epa about a year ago and asked if I
could sell aspertame as an ant poison.  Apparently I cannot, I have to do
testing to determine that it is not too toxic for the environment.

Really strange that the FDA says that is is nontoxic enough for people to
ingest, jet the epa thinks it may be too toxic to put into the enviornment.

Marshall

David S Osborne wrote:

> http://www.epa.gov/pesticides/biopesticides/ingredients/factsheets/factsh
> eet_072503.htm
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Jack Dayton]

Marshall Dudley   9/4/03 9:15 AM  Wrote: (in part )

> Interesting thing is that I contacted the epa about a year ago and asked if I
> could sell aspertame as an ant poison.  Apparently I cannot, I have to do
> testing to determine that it is not too toxic for the environment.
**
Really Marshall,
when are you going to stop beating that dead horse?
Aspartame is probably no more deadly than Vapor Trails,
or do you subscribe to that urban legend also?

A quick check at:
http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/nutrasweet.html
supplies the following --

SYNOPSIS:
The artificial sweetener aspartame, contained in products like Nutrasweet©,
Equal© and many diet colas, causes a wide variety of ailments.

See the email here.

Is it true? 
No.
 
Why?
The Nutrasweet scaremail is so larded with claims that it is difficult sort
fact from fiction from innuendo from the outrageous quackery. To refute
every claim in the email would be tedious, we'll address just the central
claims. 

Let's start with the 'facts' contained in the screed.

When the temperature of this sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood
alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to formaldehyde and then to ...
the rest is available,and more at the above listed URL.

As you can probably see, I disagree with your position
on aspartame.

Jack


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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Marshall Dudley]

Check your facts.  See http://www.dorway.com

Even the EPA has 92 side effects in a document they produced a few years ago,
including death.

No vapor trails are not harmful.  Of course chemtrails are a completely 
different
matter.

Marshall

Jack Dayton wrote:

> Marshall Dudley   9/4/03 9:15 AM  Wrote: (in part )
>
> > Interesting thing is that I contacted the epa about a year ago and asked if 
> > I
> > could sell aspertame as an ant poison.  Apparently I cannot, I have to do
> > testing to determine that it is not too toxic for the environment.
> **
> Really Marshall,
> when are you going to stop beating that dead horse?
> Aspartame is probably no more deadly than Vapor Trails,
> or do you subscribe to that urban legend also?
>
> A quick check at:
> http://www.urbanlegends.com/ulz/nutrasweet.html
> supplies the following --
>
> SYNOPSIS:
> The artificial sweetener aspartame, contained in products like Nutrasweet©,
> Equal© and many diet colas, causes a wide variety of ailments.
>
> See the email here.
>
> Is it true?
> No.
>
> Why?
> The Nutrasweet scaremail is so larded with claims that it is difficult sort
> fact from fiction from innuendo from the outrageous quackery. To refute
> every claim in the email would be tedious, we'll address just the central
> claims.
>
> Let's start with the 'facts' contained in the screed.
>
> When the temperature of this sweetener exceeds 86 degrees F, the wood
> alcohol in ASPARTAME converts to formaldehyde and then to ...
> the rest is available,and more at the above listed URL.
>
> As you can probably see, I disagree with your position
> on aspartame.
>
> Jack
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Ted Windsor]

Gee, I guess I have been wasting my time drinking CS all these years! From
one once per day to several glasses?
Blessings
Ted

Alvin Rose wrote:

> Hi List
> Here's some instructions from a doctor on another list.
> Drinking Colloidal Silver is not effective???
> Is it true
>
> HI ALL:Best way to "ingest" CS is sublingually. take the equivalent
> of a large soup spoon (maybe two regular size soup spoons?) and place
> the liquid under your tonge. keep it there for as long as you can.
> Let's say, 10 minutes if you can. Simply DISCARD the rest. No need
> to swallow any of it. It won't do you any good. "first pass" is
> digestion. the route accross your instestinal mucosa is no good. Not
> that will kill your "friendly flora" (it has to be infected and
> anaerobic for that to happen...)is that the exchange of
> electrochemical sequence that colloidal have to traverse is just to
> much for the small positive charge that the particle have. I use a
> nebulizer for some of my patients. To others I inject them with cs.
> Sorry that i can't say where I inject nor for what purpouse. But it
> is for serious conditions. Those that drink colloidal are simply
> wasting their time. sorry but real.C.R.Fredes, NMD
>
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Solar]

Hello Alvin,

Saturday, January 12, 2002, 5:32:07 PM, you wrote:

AR> Hi List
AR> Here's some instructions from a doctor on another list.
AR> Drinking Colloidal Silver is not effective???
AR> Is it true

AR> HI ALL:Best way to "ingest" CS is sublingually. take the equivalent
AR> of a large soup spoon (maybe two regular size soup spoons?) and place
AR> the liquid under your tonge. keep it there for as long as you can.
AR> Let's say, 10 minutes if you can. Simply DISCARD the rest. No need
AR> to swallow any of it. It won't do you any good. "first pass" is
AR> digestion. the route accross your instestinal mucosa is no good. Not
AR> that will kill your "friendly flora" (it has to be infected and
AR> anaerobic for that to happen...)is that the exchange of
AR> electrochemical sequence that colloidal have to traverse is just to
AR> much for the small positive charge that the particle have. I use a
AR> nebulizer for some of my patients. To others I inject them with cs.
AR> Sorry that i can't say where I inject nor for what purpouse. But it
AR> is for serious conditions. Those that drink colloidal are simply
AR> wasting their time. sorry but real.C.R.Fredes, NMD


That statement is inaccurate all over the place. And, if my memory
serves me, Cs is effective against bot aerobic and anaerobic bacteria.

This guy hasn't done his homework. He is either making some bad
assumptions, or basing this on someone elses "word".





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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Dean T. Miller]

Hi Alvin,

This "doctor" is wrong on several counts.

For example, the statement: "Not that will kill your "friendly flora"
(it has to be infected and anaerobic for that to happen...)" is
incorrect.  The "friendly flora" is bacteria, and CS will kill both
anaerobic and aerobic bacteria -- it's not selective.  However, the CS
has to be in a liquid medium to be effective, so is ineffective in the
lower intestines where the contents are relatively non-liquid (if the
content is liquid and the person has diarrhea, then CS will kill the
bacteria, stopping the diarrhea).

Also, silver does seem to be absorbed (passing the intestinal mucosa)
just as other minerals are absorbed.  Roger Altman seems to have shown
this in his tests.  

However, the "doctor" is correct in saying that CS is absorbed
sublingually and by the lungs (via a nebulizing inhaler).

On Sat, 12 Jan 2002 14:32:07 -0800, Alvin Rose 
wrote:

>Hi List
>Here's some instructions from a doctor on another list.
>Drinking Colloidal Silver is not effective???
>Is it true
>
>HI ALL:Best way to "ingest" CS is sublingually. take the equivalent
>of a large soup spoon (maybe two regular size soup spoons?) and place
>the liquid under your tonge. keep it there for as long as you can.
>Let's say, 10 minutes if you can. Simply DISCARD the rest. No need
>to swallow any of it. It won't do you any good. "first pass" is
>digestion. the route accross your instestinal mucosa is no good. Not
>that will kill your "friendly flora" (it has to be infected and
>anaerobic for that to happen...)is that the exchange of
>electrochemical sequence that colloidal have to traverse is just to
>much for the small positive charge that the particle have. I use a
>nebulizer for some of my patients. To others I inject them with cs.
>Sorry that i can't say where I inject nor for what purpouse. But it
>is for serious conditions. Those that drink colloidal are simply
>wasting their time. sorry but real.C.R.Fredes, NMD

-- Dean -- from (almost) Des Moines -- KB0ZDF


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RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[James Osbourne, Holmes]

Mostly bullshit.  It is absorbed sub-lingual.  You can get higher blood
levels IV.  But the rest is jive.  Sorry, Doctor, but I can't tell you how
to cure acute recto-crainal insertion.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-Original Message-
From: Alvin Rose [mailto:ar...@nf.sympatico.ca]
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 3:32 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!

Hi List
Here's some instructions from a doctor on another list.
Drinking Colloidal Silver is not effective???
Is it true

HI ALL:Best way to "ingest" CS is sublingually. take the equivalent
of a large soup spoon (maybe two regular size soup spoons?) and place
the liquid under your tonge. keep it there for as long as you can.
Let's say, 10 minutes if you can. Simply DISCARD the rest. No need
to swallow any of it. It won't do you any good. "first pass" is
digestion. the route accross your instestinal mucosa is no good. Not
that will kill your "friendly flora" (it has to be infected and
anaerobic for that to happen...)is that the exchange of
electrochemical sequence that colloidal have to traverse is just to
much for the small positive charge that the particle have. I use a
nebulizer for some of my patients. To others I inject them with cs.
Sorry that i can't say where I inject nor for what purpouse. But it
is for serious conditions. Those that drink colloidal are simply
wasting their time. sorry but real.C.R.Fredes, NMD



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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[james barton]

BS.  Read a coning em from Dr. Marx.
jcb
- Original Message -
From: "Ted Windsor" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!


> Gee, I guess I have been wasting my time drinking CS all these years! From
> one once per day to several glasses?
> Blessings
> Ted
>
> Alvin Rose wrote:
>
> > Hi List
> > Here's some instructions from a doctor on another list.
> > Drinking Colloidal Silver is not effective???
> > Is it true
> >
> > HI ALL:Best way to "ingest" CS is sublingually. take the equivalent
> > of a large soup spoon (maybe two regular size soup spoons?) and place
> > the liquid under your tonge. keep it there for as long as you can.
> > Let's say, 10 minutes if you can. Simply DISCARD the rest. No need
> > to swallow any of it. It won't do you any good. "first pass" is
> > digestion. the route accross your instestinal mucosa is no good. Not
> > that will kill your "friendly flora" (it has to be infected and
> > anaerobic for that to happen...)is that the exchange of
> > electrochemical sequence that colloidal have to traverse is just to
> > much for the small positive charge that the particle have. I use a
> > nebulizer for some of my patients. To others I inject them with cs.
> > Sorry that i can't say where I inject nor for what purpouse. But it
> > is for serious conditions. Those that drink colloidal are simply
> > wasting their time. sorry but real.C.R.Fredes, NMD
> >
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Russ Rosser]

Fascinating info, Terry, and quite logical--everything exists in continuum!
Prior to this, the only calcium issue I knew of was
'bioavailability'/absoption.  This raises a couple of questions:

Your memorandum seems to attribute bodily pH exclusively to the form in
which *calcium* is taken.  By what margin do you presuppose calcium to
predominate over other mineral requirements, severally?  I had heard that
calcium is needed in no more than a 2:1 ration to magnesium, if not
1:1--doesn't this indicate that pH balancing is indicated WRT other
"macro-mineral" forms as well?

There's a liquid calcium *orotate* supplement on my website, which has
prompted dramatic testimonials among most of the people I know who have
tried it (although I may have to modify certain of my inferences as to
*why*!).  To what extent would you attribute this to calcium deficiency as
opposed to excessive alkalinity, perhaps due to the ubiquitous addition of
alkaline calcium to many processed "foods" nowadays?  IOW, is it the calcium
that's producing the benefit, or possibly the mere addition of orotic acid
to the diet, which neutralizes & activates the calcium carbonate they're
already getting from their Rolaids, Kraft cheese, etc.??

Thanks.

--Russ
- Original Message -
From: Terry Chamberlin 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 2:48 PM
Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!


> "I was wondering why there is such a difference
> between ones Urine PH, and Ones Saliva PH. Also, which
> one would give a correct indication of the body's
> Alkaline/Acid content.. Thanks, Grant.."
>
> The following is to address the pH issue, from the
> literature I give to all my clients. It is intended
> here for informational purposes, not as a marketing
> ploy.
>
> The Calcium Connection
> Determining which calcium your body needs
>
> Nowadays there is a lot of talk about our need for
> calcium. You will see products from milk to orange
> juice with the words "Calcium Added!" prominently
> displayed on the label. Nearly everyone knows how a
> lack of calcium can contribute to such health issues
> as arthritis and osteoporosis. Nearly everyone also
> knows that calcium levels have decreased significantly
> in our modern food, which is commercially grown in
> mineral-poor soil. To get enough calcium, most people
> recognize the need to take calcium supplements.
>
> But when you go to the pharmacy or a health food
> store, it can become confusing. You see all kinds of
> calciums. There is calcium carbonate, lactate, citrate
> and gluconate, which are on almost every shelf. Then
> there are the less well-known calciums such as calcium
> phosphate, sulphate, aspartate, orotate, hydroxide,
> plus others with names too difficult to pronounce!
>
> It makes you wonder: Are some kinds of calcium better
> than others? Does it matter which kind of calcium you
> take? Is it possible to take too much calcium? Can
> calcium hurt you? Do the various kinds of calcium
> affect the body in different ways?
>
> According to the late Dr. Carey Reams, bio-chemist and
> bio-physicist, our bodies need a balanced variety of
> calciums. He spent over 50 years studying and
> researching the affects of various calciums and other
> minerals on the human body. He found that there are
> essentially three categories of calciums to be
> considered: Alkaline-pH calciums (calcium hydroxide,
> phosphate and carbonate), Acid-pH calciums (calcium
> lactate and sulphate) and neutral-pH calciums (calcium
> citrate, aspartate, gluconate, etc.). "pH", as used
> here, refers to the  acidifying or alkalinizing effect
> upon the body.
>
> The body needs calcium from each of these groups in
> order to achieve balance for good health. Frequently
> people have an adequate amount of one kind, but a
> deficiency of the other. The presence of both
> acidifying and alkalinizing calciums is important
> because the interaction between the two is how both
> kinds are assimilated. Without enough of one kind,
> there is a poor assimilation of the other.
>
> Imagine taking a cup of vinegar and a cup of baking
> soda. If you dump them together in a bowl, you will
> see a lot of energy released. But if you were to pour
> together a cup of baking soda and a teaspoon of
> vinegar, there would not be much energy released,
> because of the unbalanced ratio between the soda and
> vinegar.
>
> A deficiency of alkaline calcium, for instance, will
> express itself as an apparent excess of acidifying
> calcium, resulting in an acid pH (calcium "deposits"
> are nearly always one type of unassimilated calcium
> accumulating somewhere in your body because of a
> deficiency of the other). The alkalinity or acidity of
> your urine or saliva pH is not primarily a reflection
> of the foods you eat. It is an indication of your
> calciums balance. Special pH test paper (carried by
> many Health Food stores or available from Metabolic
> Solutions) determines which kind of calcium your body
> may be deficient in, and indicates whi

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Russ Rosser]

Fascinating info, Terry.  Prior to this, the only calcium issue I knew of
which single form was THE most 'bioavailable.'  However you've provoked a
few questions which I hope you won't find too sophomoric:

I had understood (1) that most of the macro-minerals are characteristically
alkaline, e.g., in ionic solutions like "Concentrace" or Seaminerals"
(www.survivalsystem.com), and that they must be *taken with* an acid in
order to be metabolized, and that HCl suffices unless one's stomach acidity
is deficient.  Is this incorrect?  Or, do you believe (2) that the mere
*admixture* of proper acidity is not sufficient to achieve the necessary pH
for optimal metabplism, and that a mixture of *chemically bound* calcuim
forms, of complimentary pH, is necessary?

If (1) is correct, then here's a closely related question:  On my website
there's a liquid calcium *orotate* supplement which has prompted dramatic
testimonials among most of the people I know who have tried it (although I
may have to modify my understanding as to *why* this true!).  Would you
attribute its efficiacy to the bioavailability of the orotate form in
remediating actual calcium *deficiency,* or to the mere addition of orotic
acid to the diet, with the attendant effect of neutralizing & activating the
alkaline calcium already replete in Rolaids, Kraft cheese, etc.??

OTOH, if (2) is true, then another question arises:  Your memorandum seems
to attribute bodily pH exclusively to the form in which calcium is taken;
IOW it equates the body's necessary pH with necessary pH of Ca.  However, I
had heard that calcium is needed in no more than a 2:1 ration to magnesium,
if not 1:1.  If so, doesn't that indicate that pH balancing is indicated WRT
other "macro-mineral" forms as well?  Od do you presuppose calcium to
predominate over other mineral requirements, severally, by some overwhelming
margin?  Alternatively, is it possible that the right amount of stomach acid
(or supplemental cider vinegar, etc.) can balance the pH resulting from
taking many minerals together?

Thanks.

--Russ

- Original Message -
From: Terry Chamberlin 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 2:48 PM
Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!


> "I was wondering why there is such a difference
> between ones Urine PH, and Ones Saliva PH. Also, which
> one would give a correct indication of the body's
> Alkaline/Acid content.. Thanks, Grant.."
>
> The following is to address the pH issue, from the
> literature I give to all my clients. It is intended
> here for informational purposes, not as a marketing
> ploy.
>
> The Calcium Connection
> Determining which calcium your body needs
>
> Nowadays there is a lot of talk about our need for
> calcium. You will see products from milk to orange
> juice with the words "Calcium Added!" prominently
> displayed on the label. Nearly everyone knows how a
> lack of calcium can contribute to such health issues
> as arthritis and osteoporosis. Nearly everyone also
> knows that calcium levels have decreased significantly
> in our modern food, which is commercially grown in
> mineral-poor soil. To get enough calcium, most people
> recognize the need to take calcium supplements.
>
> But when you go to the pharmacy or a health food
> store, it can become confusing. You see all kinds of
> calciums. There is calcium carbonate, lactate, citrate
> and gluconate, which are on almost every shelf. Then
> there are the less well-known calciums such as calcium
> phosphate, sulphate, aspartate, orotate, hydroxide,
> plus others with names too difficult to pronounce!
>
> It makes you wonder: Are some kinds of calcium better
> than others? Does it matter which kind of calcium you
> take? Is it possible to take too much calcium? Can
> calcium hurt you? Do the various kinds of calcium
> affect the body in different ways?
>
> According to the late Dr. Carey Reams, bio-chemist and
> bio-physicist, our bodies need a balanced variety of
> calciums. He spent over 50 years studying and
> researching the affects of various calciums and other
> minerals on the human body. He found that there are
> essentially three categories of calciums to be
> considered: Alkaline-pH calciums (calcium hydroxide,
> phosphate and carbonate), Acid-pH calciums (calcium
> lactate and sulphate) and neutral-pH calciums (calcium
> citrate, aspartate, gluconate, etc.). "pH", as used
> here, refers to the  acidifying or alkalinizing effect
> upon the body.
>
> The body needs calcium from each of these groups in
> order to achieve balance for good health. Frequently
> people have an adequate amount of one kind, but a
> deficiency of the other. The presence of both
> acidifying and alkalinizing calciums is important
> because the interaction between the two is how both
> kinds are assimilated. Without enough of one kind,
> there is a poor assimilation of the other.
>
> Imagine taking a cup of vinegar and a cup of baking
> soda. If you dump them together in a bowl, you will
> see a lot of energy released. B

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Russ Rosser]

Fascinating info, Terry.  Prior to this, the only calcium issue I knew of
which single form was THE most 'bioavailable.'  However you've provoked a
few questions which I hope you won't find too sophomoric:

I had understood (1) that most of the macro-minerals are characteristically
alkaline, e.g., in ionic solutions like "Concentrace" or Seaminerals"
(www.survivalsystem.com), and that they must be *taken with* an acid in
order to be metabolized, and that HCl suffices unless one's stomach acidity
is deficient.  Is this incorrect?  Or, do you believe (2) that the mere
*admixture* of proper acidity is not sufficient to achieve the necessary pH
for optimal metabplism, and that a mixture of *chemically bound* calcuim
forms, of complimentary pH, is necessary?

If (1) is correct, then here's a closely related question:  On my website
there's a liquid calcium *orotate* supplement which has prompted dramatic
testimonials among most of the people I know who have tried it (although I
may have to modify my understanding as to *why* this true!).  Would you
attribute its efficiacy to the bioavailability of the orotate form in
remediating actual calcium *deficiency,* or to the mere addition of orotic
acid to the diet, with the attendant effect of neutralizing & activating the
alkaline calcium already replete in Rolaids, Kraft cheese, etc.??

OTOH, if (2) is true, then another question arises:  Your memorandum seems
to attribute bodily pH exclusively to the form in which calcium is taken;
IOW it equates the body's necessary pH with necessary pH of Ca.  However, I
had heard that calcium is needed in no more than a 2:1 ration to magnesium,
if not 1:1.  If so, doesn't that indicate that pH balancing is indicated WRT
other "macro-mineral" forms as well?  Od do you presuppose calcium to
predominate over other mineral requirements, severally, by some overwhelming
margin?  Alternatively, is it possible that the right amount of stomach acid
(or supplemental cider vinegar, etc.) can balance the pH resulting from
taking many minerals together?

Thanks.

--Russ

- Original Message -
From: Terry Chamberlin 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 2:48 PM
Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!


> "I was wondering why there is such a difference
> between ones Urine PH, and Ones Saliva PH. Also, which
> one would give a correct indication of the body's
> Alkaline/Acid content.. Thanks, Grant.."
>
> The following is to address the pH issue, from the
> literature I give to all my clients. It is intended
> here for informational purposes, not as a marketing
> ploy.
>
> The Calcium Connection
> Determining which calcium your body needs
>
> Nowadays there is a lot of talk about our need for
> calcium. You will see products from milk to orange
> juice with the words "Calcium Added!" prominently
> displayed on the label. Nearly everyone knows how a
> lack of calcium can contribute to such health issues
> as arthritis and osteoporosis. Nearly everyone also
> knows that calcium levels have decreased significantly
> in our modern food, which is commercially grown in
> mineral-poor soil. To get enough calcium, most people
> recognize the need to take calcium supplements.
>
> But when you go to the pharmacy or a health food
> store, it can become confusing. You see all kinds of
> calciums. There is calcium carbonate, lactate, citrate
> and gluconate, which are on almost every shelf. Then
> there are the less well-known calciums such as calcium
> phosphate, sulphate, aspartate, orotate, hydroxide,
> plus others with names too difficult to pronounce!
>
> It makes you wonder: Are some kinds of calcium better
> than others? Does it matter which kind of calcium you
> take? Is it possible to take too much calcium? Can
> calcium hurt you? Do the various kinds of calcium
> affect the body in different ways?
>
> According to the late Dr. Carey Reams, bio-chemist and
> bio-physicist, our bodies need a balanced variety of
> calciums. He spent over 50 years studying and
> researching the affects of various calciums and other
> minerals on the human body. He found that there are
> essentially three categories of calciums to be
> considered: Alkaline-pH calciums (calcium hydroxide,
> phosphate and carbonate), Acid-pH calciums (calcium
> lactate and sulphate) and neutral-pH calciums (calcium
> citrate, aspartate, gluconate, etc.). "pH", as used
> here, refers to the  acidifying or alkalinizing effect
> upon the body.
>
> The body needs calcium from each of these groups in
> order to achieve balance for good health. Frequently
> people have an adequate amount of one kind, but a
> deficiency of the other. The presence of both
> acidifying and alkalinizing calciums is important
> because the interaction between the two is how both
> kinds are assimilated. Without enough of one kind,
> there is a poor assimilation of the other.
>
> Imagine taking a cup of vinegar and a cup of baking
> soda. If you dump them together in a bowl, you will
> see a lot of energy released. B

RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[I Anderson]

Hi Terry,

I read your message with interest.. I have found Reams' theories to be
a very difficult to critique mainly because he invented his own
scientific jargon. However, his treatments appear to be valid and
confirm in the most, what I have learned. What does seem to be missing
is the recognition of the manner in which calcium becomes
bio-available. Most diseased states benefit from an increase in serum
calcium levels, it is the most needed of all minerals and is involved
to some extent in every bodily process, so I guess it is surprising
that it is one of the hardest to absorb by modern man. The
requirements for the absorption of calcium are that it is ionised
(dissolved) and that the vitamin D receptors in the small intestinal
wall are populated with vitamin D. In these times of little sun
exposure, and sun blocks, one needs to supplement with vitamin D if
one wishes to absorb 20 times more calcium than one would otherwise.

To my mind it doesn't much matter which type of calcium one takes, if
one remembers that calcium will form insoluble compounds with
phosphorous, and it is advantageous to take malic acid in the form of
apple juice which will keep the calcium ionised long enough for good
absorption. The idea that two different types of calcium will react
together to supply useable energy I find suspect, especially
considering that this will take place in the stomach.

Once in the body calcium is transported into the blood by
calcium-binding proteins which are stimulated by vitamin D, and from
the blood the deposition in the bones is controlled by the calcitonin
hormone released from the parathyroid gland. Calcitonin, along with
inositol triphosphate control both the deposition and removal of
calcium from the cells. The parathyroid glands are controlled by the
pituitary gland, which lies behind the eyes, and is stimulated by FULL
spectrum light, whilst inositol triphosphate is stimulated by cellular
photoreceptors.
So it can be seen that sunlight is a basic need for proper bodily
function and instrumental in the absorption and distribution of the
most important body constituent, calcium.

Regards
Ivan.

> -Original Message-
> From: Terry Chamberlin [mailto:tcj...@yahoo.ca]
> Sent: Monday, 8 April 2002 7:48 a.m.
> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!
>
>
> "I was wondering why there is such a difference
> between ones Urine PH, and Ones Saliva PH. Also, which
> one would give a correct indication of the body's
> Alkaline/Acid content..   Thanks, Grant.."
>
> The following is to address the pH issue, from the
> literature I give to all my clients. It is intended
> here for informational purposes, not as a marketing
> ploy.
>
> The Calcium Connection
> Determining which calcium your body needs
>
> Nowadays there is a lot of talk about our need for
> calcium. You will see products from milk to orange
> juice with the words Calcium Added! prominently
> displayed on the label. Nearly everyone knows how a
> lack of calcium can contribute to such health issues
> as arthritis and osteoporosis. Nearly everyone also
> knows that calcium levels have decreased significantly
> in our modern food, which is commercially grown in
> mineral-poor soil. To get enough calcium, most people
> recognize the need to take calcium supplements.
>
> But when you go to the pharmacy or a health food
> store, it can become confusing. You see all kinds of
> calciums. There is calcium carbonate, lactate, citrate
> and gluconate, which are on almost every shelf. Then
> there are the less well-known calciums such as calcium
> phosphate, sulphate, aspartate, orotate, hydroxide,
> plus others with names too difficult to pronounce!
>
> It makes you wonder: Are some kinds of calcium better
> than others? Does it matter which kind of calcium you
> take? Is it possible to take too much calcium? Can
> calcium hurt you? Do the various kinds of calcium
> affect the body in different ways?
>
> According to the late Dr. Carey Reams, bio-chemist and
> bio-physicist, our bodies need a balanced variety of
> calciums. He spent over 50 years studying and
> researching the affects of various calciums and other
> minerals on the human body. He found that there are
> essentially three categories of calciums to be
> considered: Alkaline-pH calciums (calcium hydroxide,
> phosphate and carbonate), Acid-pH calciums (calcium
> lactate and sulphate) and neutral-pH calciums (calcium
> citrate, aspartate, gluconate, etc.). "pH", as used
> here, refers to the  acidifying or alkalinizing effect
> upon the body.
>
> The body needs calcium from each of these groups in
> order to achieve balance for good health. Frequently
> people have an adequate amount of one kind, but a
> deficiency of the other. The presence of both
> acidifying and alkalinizing calciums is important
> because the interaction between the two is how both
> kinds are assimilated. Without enough of one kind,
> there is a poor assimilation of the other.
>
> 

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Ronen Yehiav]

- Original Message -
From: "I Anderson" 
Subject: RE: CS>Unidentified subject!


> Hi Terry,
>
> confirm in the most, what I have learned. What does seem to be missing
> is the recognition of the manner in which calcium becomes
> bio-available. Most diseased states benefit from an increase in serum
> calcium levels, it is the most needed of all minerals and is involved
> to some extent in every bodily process, so I guess it is surprising
> that it is one of the hardest to absorb by modern man. The
> requirements for the absorption of calcium are that it is ionised
> (dissolved) and that the vitamin D receptors in the small intestinal
> wall are populated with vitamin D. In these times of little sun
> exposure, and sun blocks, one needs to supplement with vitamin D if
> one wishes to absorb 20 times more calcium than one would otherwise.
>
> To my mind it doesn't much matter which type of calcium one takes, if
> one remembers that calcium will form insoluble compounds with
> phosphorous, and it is advantageous to take malic acid in the form of
> apple juice which will keep the calcium ionised long enough for good
> absorption. The idea that two different types of calcium will react
> together to supply useable energy I find suspect, especially
> considering that this will take place in the stomach.

Up to this point, I agree completely:

The ONLY variable I found which consistently affects calcium absorption is
cellular metabolism.  This primary life - force process has a direct
relation to the cellular magnetic charge, which must be negative.  This is,
BTW, an alkaline state of the cytoplasm.

Any other state of charge disrupts cellular metabolism.  When this happens,
calcium absorption is not the only thing that goes wrong.

The easiest, most consistent way I found to help the body recharge itself is
through day - time charging of the sternum point with a powerful negative
pole of a permanent magnet.

If the body has a significant load of parasites, Zapping may help.

I get magnets from www.magnetizer.com (they also have a very educational
book),
and I get zappers from www.worldwithoutparasites.org which I found to be the
best there are, for several reasons.

Ronen.


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RE: CS>Unidentified subject!

[I Anderson]

Thanks Ronan,

Yes it seems that the negative pole of a magnet will cause the body
fluids to become more alkaline. Calcium bicarbonate, normally a
straight molecule, will bend and break into calcium hydroxide and CO2.

The cytoplasm oscillates between pH 7.4 and 6.6 as the pores open and
close and cations and nutrients enter and leave the cell.

Thanks for the input... and I must say that I am seriously considering
purchasing a magnetic bed underlay... what do you think?

Ivan.

> -Original Message-
> From: Ronen Yehiav [mailto:y...@bezeqint.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 April 2002 4:33 a.m.
> To: *Silver-List* (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: CS>Unidentified subject!
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "I Anderson" 
> Subject: RE: CS>Unidentified subject!
>
>
> > Hi Terry,
> >
> > confirm in the most, what I have learned. What does seem to
> be missing
> > is the recognition of the manner in which calcium becomes
> > bio-available. Most diseased states benefit from an
> increase in serum
> > calcium levels, it is the most needed of all minerals and
> is involved
> > to some extent in every bodily process, so I guess it is
surprising
> > that it is one of the hardest to absorb by modern man. The
> > requirements for the absorption of calcium are that it is ionised
> > (dissolved) and that the vitamin D receptors in the small
intestinal
> > wall are populated with vitamin D. In these times of little sun
> > exposure, and sun blocks, one needs to supplement with vitamin D
if
> > one wishes to absorb 20 times more calcium than one would
otherwise.
> >
> > To my mind it doesn't much matter which type of calcium one
> takes, if
> > one remembers that calcium will form insoluble compounds with
> > phosphorous, and it is advantageous to take malic acid in
> the form of
> > apple juice which will keep the calcium ionised long enough for
good
> > absorption. The idea that two different types of calcium will
react
> > together to supply useable energy I find suspect, especially
> > considering that this will take place in the stomach.
>
> Up to this point, I agree completely:
>
> The ONLY variable I found which consistently affects calcium
> absorption is
> cellular metabolism.  This primary life - force process has a direct
> relation to the cellular magnetic charge, which must be
> negative.  This is,
> BTW, an alkaline state of the cytoplasm.
>
> Any other state of charge disrupts cellular metabolism.  When
> this happens,
> calcium absorption is not the only thing that goes wrong.
>
> The easiest, most consistent way I found to help the body
> recharge itself is
> through day - time charging of the sternum point with a
> powerful negative
> pole of a permanent magnet.
>
> If the body has a significant load of parasites, Zapping may help.
>
> I get magnets from www.magnetizer.com (they also have a very
> educational
> book),
> and I get zappers from www.worldwithoutparasites.org which I
> found to be the
> best there are, for several reasons.
>
> Ronen.
>
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Marshalee Hallett]

  helloI am just strarting to make cs  now  and am making it with 4--- 9 v 
batteries i am starting to research  and read that  the particle size might be 
to large  with that method.  can i get some input  and  maybe a good generator 
that would do the right job thanks

  Dear Glenn, Hi, and welcome!!
  3 batteries are fine. You need about 30 volts and 27 works well. The CS I 
mande that way cured me of Lyme Disease when 6 years of taking antibiotics 
couldn`t.
  Would you like to see the directions I send out to folks who want to make CS??
  Good luck!
  Marshalee

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Ode Coyote]

  The key is to reduce the current by reducing the voltage as the process goes and don't exceed the ideal current to electrode surface area ratio. Remove a battery every few minutes or construct a current control circuit...and keep the water moving either by thermal convection or mechanical stirring by stir stick or bubbler for good ion distribution.
Ken

At 02:45 PM 4/22/02 -0400, you wrote: 

helloI am just strarting to make cs  now  and am making it with 4--- 9 v batteries i am starting to research  and read that  the particle size might be to large  with that method.  can i get some input  and  maybe a good generator that would do the right job thanks





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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Dick Tanguay]

You should be able to remove yourself if you scroll down to the bottom and 
click on one of the options.  It is usually on every email.
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  To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 08, 2002 3:06 PM
  Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!


  this is the 3ed time i have asked to be removed Please, Please, Please 
Please, Please, Please,Please

Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Hank Adams]

Glory I sent you a long e-mail to your address. I forgot to say all my
batches are clear and no dark flakes.
> Hi,
> I want to make my first batch of CS this week-end. I have ordered a PPM
> tester and I'm thinking about using silver coins for the silver. Will
> this work as well as the silver wire?
> I really need some advise. I have been buying a produce that is 40ppm,
> spending 35.00 per week for the last 3 months and I can't continue to
> do this.
> Thanks,
> glory

Yours Hank.
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Arnold Beland]

12 gauge will give you better value.  Do a search on eBay for 

Best Regards,
Arnold Beland

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From: "Garrett, Susan L (NSE)" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:28 PM
Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!


> Does anyone know where I can purchase some 14 gage silver wire for a
> homemade machine? Susan
> 
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Jannette McKoy-Abel]

Susan,
Here is a good source of 12-14-gauge . silver wire

http://www.ccsilver.com/silver/fines.html#four

There is a minimum $20.00 per order, but if you don't use a lot you probably
can split an order with someone you know.

Jannette

 > - Original Message -
> From: "Garrett, Susan L (NSE)" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 12:28 PM
> Subject: CS>Unidentified subject!
>
>
> > Does anyone know where I can purchase some 14 gage silver wire for a
> > homemade machine? Susan
> >
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[Tel Tofflemire]

Susan,
I have dealt with James Allison on line and in person for several years, and
I have found him to be lowest in price and the nicest person to deal with.
He told me he had a new supply of silver wire in stock and it was the
cheapest on the internet, pure . bullion grade.
Tel Tofflemire
Dewey , AZ

"Garrett, Susan L (NSE)" wrote:

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> homemade machine? Susan
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Re: CS>Unidentified subject!

[d.linen]

I, too, have bought supplements from James Allison and have been *very*
pleased with him.

diane


Tel Tofflemire wrote:
> 
> Susan,
> I have dealt with James Allison on line and in person for several years, and
> I have found him to be lowest in price and the nicest person to deal with.
> He told me he had a new supply of silver wire in stock and it was the
> cheapest on the internet, pure . bullion grade.
> Tel Tofflemire
> Dewey , AZ
> 
> "Garrett, Susan L (NSE)" wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know where I can purchase some 14 gage silver wire for a
> > homemade machine? Susan
> >
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