Re: CS>treating shingles
Shingles can be treated by compressing with DMSO and EIS. Some people do mix MSM and DMSO when nebulizing. MSM improves the elasticity of lung tissue. Have not heard about Xylitol for mold. How much are you using? Thanks, Garnet http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA cla...@jazznsamba.com wrote: Hello All, A friend has been quite ill with some kind of chest infection for the past five weeks and with it has had shingles. The rash is somewhat better but the sensitivity is still very present. If anyone here has experience using CS or anything else to treat shingles please share your treatment protocol(s). TIA! CS "success story": I've been very ill myself with bronchial pneumonia which I've been successfully treating with CS. I've been taking it internally & nebulizing with a mixture of CS/DMSO/MSM/Xylitol. I added xylitol because I've had mold problems in the past and feel this episode could also be a mold co-infection. (I *should* have begun treatment immediately when the symptoms presented but I didn't realize initially how serious the infection was...) I realize many people feel it's unnecessary to add both MSM and DMSO to the nebulizing mixture, but in the past I felt I had better success using both than just DMSO alone. FWIW. Claire -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>treating shingles
I have gotten rid of shingles in two weeks with CS. dee On 11 Oct 2009, at 17:33, cla...@jazznsamba.com wrote: Hello All, A friend has been quite ill with some kind of chest infection for the past five weeks and with it has had shingles. The rash is somewhat better but the sensitivity is still very present. If anyone here has experience using CS or anything else to treat shingles please share your treatment protocol(s). TIA! CS "success story": I've been very ill myself with bronchial pneumonia which I've been successfully treating with CS. I've been taking it internally & nebulizing with a mixture of CS/DMSO/MSM/Xylitol. I added xylitol because I've had mold problems in the past and feel this episode could also be a mold co-infection. (I *should* have begun treatment immediately when the symptoms presented but I didn't realize initially how serious the infection was...) I realize many people feel it's unnecessary to add both MSM and DMSO to the nebulizing mixture, but in the past I felt I had better success using both than just DMSO alone. FWIW. Claire -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>treating shingles
When I had shingles CS in a spray bottle helped contain the outbreak somewhat, but it was still very painful for a while. What helped the pain, besides advil, was a paste of rubbing alcohol and crushed aspirin, leaving it open to air as much as possible. Wishing her a speedy recovery, shingles is awful. Kathy -Original Message- From: cla...@jazznsamba.com [mailto:cla...@jazznsamba.com] Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>treating shingles Hello All, A friend has been quite ill with some kind of chest infection for the past five weeks and with it has had shingles. The rash is somewhat better but the sensitivity is still very present. If anyone here has experience using CS or anything else to treat shingles please share your treatment protocol(s). TIA! CS "success story": I've been very ill myself with bronchial pneumonia which I've been successfully treating with CS. I've been taking it internally & nebulizing with a mixture of CS/DMSO/MSM/Xylitol. I added xylitol because I've had mold problems in the past and feel this episode could also be a mold co-infection. (I *should* have begun treatment immediately when the symptoms presented but I didn't realize initially how serious the infection was...) I realize many people feel it's unnecessary to add both MSM and DMSO to the nebulizing mixture, but in the past I felt I had better success using both than just DMSO alone. FWIW. Claire -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>treating shingles
I cured a patient of shingles by giving here CS to drink... 2oz a day is all it took. Gone within a week never to return. Bob - Original Message - From: "kath" To: Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:08 PM Subject: RE: CS>treating shingles When I had shingles CS in a spray bottle helped contain the outbreak somewhat, but it was still very painful for a while. What helped the pain, besides advil, was a paste of rubbing alcohol and crushed aspirin, leaving it open to air as much as possible. Wishing her a speedy recovery, shingles is awful. Kathy -Original Message- From: cla...@jazznsamba.com [mailto:cla...@jazznsamba.com] Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 12:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>treating shingles Hello All, A friend has been quite ill with some kind of chest infection for the past five weeks and with it has had shingles. The rash is somewhat better but the sensitivity is still very present. If anyone here has experience using CS or anything else to treat shingles please share your treatment protocol(s). TIA! CS "success story": I've been very ill myself with bronchial pneumonia which I've been successfully treating with CS. I've been taking it internally & nebulizing with a mixture of CS/DMSO/MSM/Xylitol. I added xylitol because I've had mold problems in the past and feel this episode could also be a mold co-infection. (I *should* have begun treatment immediately when the symptoms presented but I didn't realize initially how serious the infection was...) I realize many people feel it's unnecessary to add both MSM and DMSO to the nebulizing mixture, but in the past I felt I had better success using both than just DMSO alone. FWIW. Claire -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>treating shingles
Some relevant info for shingles and a BB post are attached. Take CS orally, apply topically with DMSO if possible, use Lysine. If there is a lung infection, then also nebulize with CS or CS with a small percentage of DMSO. Dan (Sent with the best of intentions) LYSINE HAS A SUPPRESSANT AFFECT ON BOTH TYPES OF HERPES SIMPLEX Lysine has a suppressant affect on both types of Herpes Simplex (Type 1 & Type 2). It also is effective with Herpes Zoster (Shingles), canker sores, measles and chicken pox, which are viral cousins. In addition to taking 1,000 mg, 3xday of Lysine, it is essential to avoid the foods that contain the amino acid that promotes the Herpes virus and its cousins, which is called Arginine. The two foods with the highest levels of Arginine are chocolate and peanuts, followed by the rest of the nuts, then beans, seeds and grains. Until the Herpes sores are gone, one should avoid these food items. In an especially virulent case of Herpes, as much as 10,000 mg of lysine may be needed to conquer it. The foods that are highest in Lysine are meats (including eggs and fish), dairy products and nutritional (brewers) yeast. Fruits and vegetables contain almost no amino acids, so are safe to eat. Colloidal Silver in generous quantities is also effective against the Herpes virus. Info from: Herpes Can be Prevented, by Nicholas Sampsidis, M.S. Published by Advances in Preventive Health, Sunflower Publishing Co., Glen Head, NY > I got a cold sore on my lip three days ago. I've been putting CS > and DMSO on it few time a day for three days and... nothing, still > swollen like I got hit by a heavy weight boxer. I must admit that > the itching symptoms were not there since I started the application > but it's still not going away...? Dear List Member, The clear blisters occurring on the lips are, nearly always, herpes simplex, a virus that has demonstrated to be susceptible to Colloidal Silver. However, as some outbreaks present a "streaming effect" on occasion, the driving systemic insult may continue to produce a constant replenishment of the challenging materials. There are several protocols which might offer a rapid favorable response. However, we have found that the inclusion of Lysine becomes the key ingredient. One such protocol involves nothing more than obtaining Lysine salve/ointment from your local pharmacy and applying it, liberally, over the entire lip surface especially the point of presentation. Additionally, for quick systemic support, ingesting 1000 mg of lysine powder twice daily has effected quite rapid response, in those experimental cases where it was employed. As a general condition, lysine ointment alone has given (at least for us, in our experimental researches) very acceptable address to conditions such as you outline. Sincerely, B. B. On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:33 AM, wrote: > Hello All, > > A friend has been quite ill with some kind of chest infection for the past > five weeks and with it has had shingles. The rash is somewhat better but > the sensitivity is still very present. If anyone here has experience using > CS or anything else to treat shingles please share your treatment > protocol(s). TIA! > > CS "success story": I've been very ill myself with bronchial pneumonia > which I've been successfully treating with CS. I've been taking it > internally & nebulizing with a mixture of CS/DMSO/MSM/Xylitol. I added > xylitol because I've had mold problems in the past and feel this episode > could also be a mold co-infection. (I *should* have begun treatment > immediately when the symptoms presented but I didn't realize initially how > serious the infection was...) > > I realize many people feel it's unnecessary to add both MSM and DMSO to > the nebulizing mixture, but in the past I felt I had better success using > both than just DMSO alone. FWIW. > > Claire > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > >
RE: CS>treating shingles
I treated an adult family member for Shingles a few years ago. Contact me privately and I can pass on entire documented treatment, not saying it fixed it, although I was satisfied...and so was he. N. > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 09:33:24 -0700 > From: cla...@jazznsamba.com > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: CS>treating shingles > > Hello All, > > A friend has been quite ill with some kind of chest infection for the past > five weeks and with it has had shingles. The rash is somewhat better but > the sensitivity is still very present. If anyone here has experience using > CS or anything else to treat shingles please share your treatment > protocol(s). TIA! > > CS "success story": I've been very ill myself with bronchial pneumonia > which I've been successfully treating with CS. I've been taking it > internally & nebulizing with a mixture of CS/DMSO/MSM/Xylitol. I added > xylitol because I've had mold problems in the past and feel this episode > could also be a mold co-infection. (I *should* have begun treatment > immediately when the symptoms presented but I didn't realize initially how > serious the infection was...) > > I realize many people feel it's unnecessary to add both MSM and DMSO to > the nebulizing mixture, but in the past I felt I had better success using > both than just DMSO alone. FWIW. > > Claire > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > _ Take a peek at other people's pay and perks Check out The Great Australian Pay Check http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157639755/direct/01/
Re: CS>treating shingles
cla...@jazznsamba.com wrote: I realize many people feel it's unnecessary to add both MSM and DMSO to the nebulizing mixture, but in the past I felt I had better success using both than just DMSO alone. FWIW. I always use both in nebulizing. They do different things so both are valuable. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>treating shingles
I have a friend who has been left with awful nerve pain post shingles. Her doctors say the nerves are damaged and the pain will never go away. ??? sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>treating shingles
I have cured shingles with CS. Try mixing 20% DMSO with 80% CS and rubbing it on the area daily. Also take about 2oz of pure CS internally every day. - Original Message - From: "sol" To: Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: CS>treating shingles I have a friend who has been left with awful nerve pain post shingles. Her doctors say the nerves are damaged and the pain will never go away. ??? sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>treating shingles
Bob Banever wrote: I have cured shingles with CS. Try mixing 20% DMSO with 80% CS and rubbing it on the area daily. Also take about 2oz of pure CS internally every day. The thing is for this friend she no longer has any active shingles virus. It is now the nerve pain she is left with. If the virus is no longer present or active, how will the CS help If the CS and DMSO is thought to be able to reverse the nerve damage she is left with, I will tell her about it even so. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>treating shingles
FWIW the treatment I gave resulted in no post pain, he's never had a 'relapse?' or anything, but then I used FRESHLY produced EIS on each and every administration and it was consumed IMMEDIATELY after production as I consider the ionic component is of more benefit in SOME circumstances, {personal thing}. I also believe it's the ionic component that assists in re/de? differentiation of cells or whatever after reading Becker's (not Becks) published works. N. > Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2009 22:01:39 -0600 > From: sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>treating shingles > > Bob Banever wrote: > > I have cured shingles with CS. Try mixing 20% DMSO with 80% CS and > > rubbing it on the area daily. Also take about 2oz of pure CS internally > > every day. > The thing is for this friend she no longer has any active shingles > virus. It is now the nerve pain she is left with. If the virus is no > longer present or active, how will the CS help > If the CS and DMSO is thought to be able to reverse the nerve damage she > is left with, I will tell her about it even so. > sol > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > _ Need a place to rent, buy or share? Let us find your next place for you! http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/
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sol, Silver has shown to regenerate damaged nerves as per Dr. Becker. Also, it's highly possible that active virus is still attacking her nerves. Bob - Original Message - From: "sol" To: Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:01 PM Subject: Re: CS>treating shingles Bob Banever wrote: I have cured shingles with CS. Try mixing 20% DMSO with 80% CS and rubbing it on the area daily. Also take about 2oz of pure CS internally every day. The thing is for this friend she no longer has any active shingles virus. It is now the nerve pain she is left with. If the virus is no longer present or active, how will the CS help If the CS and DMSO is thought to be able to reverse the nerve damage she is left with, I will tell her about it even so. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>treating shingles
Chapparal is suppose to eliminate herpes from the body when taken for 30 days. I have used Lomatium root tincture to treat active herpes, might be something to use for a while when there is nerve pain. St John's Wort is often combined with Lomatium for viral treatment. Herb Pharm makes a combination tincture. Also 500 - 1000 mg a day of BHT kills envelope viruses including herpes and Epstein Bar. I mixed bulk powder in Organic Olive Oil, you need to take it with a fatty meal or in oil. Keep Hope Alive had this on their website years ago for HIV. You can also use it topically. Garnet http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA sol wrote: Bob Banever wrote: I have cured shingles with CS. Try mixing 20% DMSO with 80% CS and rubbing it on the area daily. Also take about 2oz of pure CS internally every day. The thing is for this friend she no longer has any active shingles virus. It is now the nerve pain she is left with. If the virus is no longer present or active, how will the CS help If the CS and DMSO is thought to be able to reverse the nerve damage she is left with, I will tell her about it even so. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
RE: CS>treating shingles
Stay away from chocolate and nuts. If you must have it, have only one, and NEVER have them together. Thora -Original Message- From: cla...@jazznsamba.com [mailto:cla...@jazznsamba.com] Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 9:33 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: CS>treating shingles Hello All, A friend has been quite ill with some kind of chest infection for the past five weeks and with it has had shingles. The rash is somewhat better but the sensitivity is still very present. If anyone here has experience using CS or anything else to treat shingles please share your treatment protocol(s). TIA! CS "success story": I've been very ill myself with bronchial pneumonia which I've been successfully treating with CS. I've been taking it internally & nebulizing with a mixture of CS/DMSO/MSM/Xylitol. I added xylitol because I've had mold problems in the past and feel this episode could also be a mold co-infection. (I *should* have begun treatment immediately when the symptoms presented but I didn't realize initially how serious the infection was...) I realize many people feel it's unnecessary to add both MSM and DMSO to the nebulizing mixture, but in the past I felt I had better success using both than just DMSO alone. FWIW. Claire -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.11/2430 - Release Date: 10/12/09 04:01:00
Re: CS>treating shingles
Hi Garnet, Where can you get BHT? Is that the preservative? many thanks, Peter - Original Message - From: "Garnet" To: Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 10:33 AM Subject: Re: CS>treating shingles Chapparal is suppose to eliminate herpes from the body when taken for 30 days. I have used Lomatium root tincture to treat active herpes, might be something to use for a while when there is nerve pain. St John's Wort is often combined with Lomatium for viral treatment. Herb Pharm makes a combination tincture. Also 500 - 1000 mg a day of BHT kills envelope viruses including herpes and Epstein Bar. I mixed bulk powder in Organic Olive Oil, you need to take it with a fatty meal or in oil. Keep Hope Alive had this on their website years ago for HIV. You can also use it topically. Garnet http://www.ldndatabase.com/forum http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA sol wrote: Bob Banever wrote: I have cured shingles with CS. Try mixing 20% DMSO with 80% CS and rubbing it on the area daily. Also take about 2oz of pure CS internally every day. The thing is for this friend she no longer has any active shingles virus. It is now the nerve pain she is left with. If the virus is no longer present or active, how will the CS help If the CS and DMSO is thought to be able to reverse the nerve damage she is left with, I will tell her about it even so. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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You can get BHT from www.vrp.com, HTH Blessings Karen Conrad - Original Message - From: "Peter Converse" To: "Garnet" ; Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 5:59 PM Subject: Re: CS>treating shingles Hi Garnet, Where can you get BHT? Is that the preservative? many thanks, -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Thanks for the info, sol Neville Munn wrote: FWIW the treatment I gave resulted in no post pain, he's never had a 'relapse?' or anything, but then I used FRESHLY produced EIS on each and every administration and it was consumed IMMEDIATELY after production as I consider the ionic component is of more benefit in SOME circumstances, {personal thing}. I also believe it's the ionic component that assists in re/de? differentiation of cells or whatever after reading Becker's (not Becks) published works. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
Re: CS>treating shingles
Bob Banever wrote: sol, Silver has shown to regenerate damaged nerves as per Dr. Becker. Also, it's highly possible that active virus is still attacking her nerves. Thanks, Bob, I think the same despite what her doctors are telling her. Blood tests for viral load may not show virus that is in the nerve tissue. sol -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour
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Hi Sol, It's stated in Alfred B Searle's book "The Use of Colloids In Health and Disease" printed/published back in 1920 that colloidal silver had been used to treat Shingles. I suspect it was produced by far different methods back then than the product of today, and also suspect today's product may be far more effective and work far more rapidly than the product of yesteryear. This is where I got the idea of treatment from, but had to decide over ionic vs particulate for best efficacy, so I used my own protocol using my own thoughts and considerations, as a 'case study' if you like, he (the patient?) had no idea he was being involved as a guinea pig though but we were both content with the result, him moreso than me obviously. N. > Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:10:54 -0600 > From: sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com > To: silver-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: CS>treating shingles > > Thanks for the info, > sol > > Neville Munn wrote: > > FWIW the treatment I gave resulted in no post pain, he's never had a > > 'relapse?' or anything, but then I used FRESHLY produced EIS on each and > > every administration and it was consumed IMMEDIATELY after production as > > I consider the ionic component is of more benefit in SOME circumstances, > > {personal thing}. I also believe it's the ionic component that assists > > in re/de? differentiation of cells or whatever after reading Becker's > > (not Becks) published works. > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com > > Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour > > _ Use Messenger in your Hotmail inbox Find out how here http://windowslive.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=823454