Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
At 05:02 PM 23/02/05, nancymike wrote: There is ONLY ONE CS that I would trust in my veins. That is Argentyn 23 by Natural Immunogenics in Miami Florida. --- Frankly folks, after 30 years of research in the area, I wouldn't put ANYTHING DIRECTLY into my veins. The body that you inhabit was specifically designed to do things in a certain way. The most vital of all is to not let anything foreign enter the blood system directly. Yes, I know about the dramatic movies with drips and stuff - and injecting sugar *or* salt into the veins ( depending on whether it is a full moon or odd and even day) and the miracle of blood transfusions . now there's a good study on its own... Don't take my word for it - look it up. Ask the Religious groups that forbid it - they don't only quote one of the 60-odd versions of the Christian Bibles - they will give you the HARD evidence today. Stuff that will NEVER see the light of day. Rather like the way even mentioning CS and DMSO can end a promising or even top Medical/Scientific Career. At least do the same research you would do before buying an auto or a diswasher Amazing what you can learn. Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
Question regarding CS and DMSO. Can CS be mixed with a small amount of DMSO and then used as a nasal wash? I'm thinking I'd like to use this as a therapy for colds that have already started. I hypothesize that the CS will be able to get into the cells of the sinus cavity where the rhinovirus resides. - Original Message - From: Himagain himag...@fablor.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: matrix...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 2:44 PM Subject: Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection At 05:02 PM 23/02/05, nancymike wrote: There is ONLY ONE CS that I would trust in my veins. That is Argentyn 23 by Natural Immunogenics in Miami Florida. --- Frankly folks, after 30 years of research in the area, I wouldn't put ANYTHING DIRECTLY into my veins. The body that you inhabit was specifically designed to do things in a certain way. The most vital of all is to not let anything foreign enter the blood system directly. Yes, I know about the dramatic movies with drips and stuff - and injecting sugar *or* salt into the veins ( depending on whether it is a full moon or odd and even day) and the miracle of blood transfusions . now there's a good study on its own... Don't take my word for it - look it up. Ask the Religious groups that forbid it - they don't only quote one of the 60-odd versions of the Christian Bibles - they will give you the HARD evidence today. Stuff that will NEVER see the light of day. Rather like the way even mentioning CS and DMSO can end a promising or even top Medical/Scientific Career. At least do the same research you would do before buying an auto or a diswasher Amazing what you can learn. Cheers, Himagain -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
Can CS be mixed with a small amount of DMSO and then used as a nasal wash? We are probably nearly all doing this now - and adding other stuff, to boot, such as xylitol. And sea salt so the mucous membranes are not so uncomfortable with the distilled water. Or sniffing it or inhaling it. DMSO has been likened to an injection without needles. Thus there are those who add Vit B to it, and get their Vit B shot without a needle. Rowena
RE: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
I forgot to add that I already use CS in a Nebulizer daily. I will try the 10 DMSO to see if this helps Bob -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert [mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:02 AM To: 'cs' Subject: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection Despite taking a 2 to 1 mix of Gatorade and CS I still got a recurring Sinus Infection. I am on Antibiotics. What CS is inject able How would I inject Where would I inject, in leg thigh or in Vein What makes a certain CS safe for injection, is it filtered better or what. Considering injecting some CS but need to use right one and to do it right I wish I knew some one who would give CS in IV,s Thanks Bob
RE: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
In Germanic New Medicine it is a sign of a hanging healing conflict, I think it is I am fed up with this. So perhaps a change in attitude and some homeopathic remedies or Bach flower remedies for the emotions (though the homeopathic remedies can be useful as well for the sinus problem, but it chronic the emotional reasons need to be worked on. http://germannewmedicine.ca Another website that is also worth checking out is www.newmedicine.ca the homeopathic remedies depend for instance if t he colour our the snot if yellow green then it would be different than if it was clear for instance. See links or book recommendation below. Louise For a lot of the day to day little things and for emergencies you can do the treating yourself (for acutes of known causes) You can use this book for people and animals Everybody's Guide to Homeopathic Medicines by Stephen Cummings, MC and Dana Ullman, MPH coupled with a little 30C kit with Arnica 200C you will be able to help quite a lot of emergencies. http://www.abchomeopathy.com/go.php put in symptoms and get a remedy, but do check with Materia Medica how good a match it is. Do not assume this program is right. on line Materia Medica http://data.widgetworks.com:591/boericke/ or http://www.homeopathyworks.com/boericke.htm http://www.abchomeopathy.com/conditions.php/m http://www.vitalforce.org/repertory.html good repertory to match symptoms with suggestions to look up in Materia Medica. http://www.simillimum.com - click on 'First Aid Room Gives you a quick run down of the remedies to read (you need a good Materia Medica or keynotes. http://www.homeoint.org/books/allkeyn/index.htm A Canadian company in BC that is selling Phytopia Homeopathic Remedy Kits. Their Pharmacy kit contains 48 remedies, all of which were identified in class as 'must haves' for acute prescribing. The kit comes in a handy travel case, with 'cheat cards'. http://phytopia.biz/HomeopathyKits.html http://a2zhomeopathy.com/ several kits here and I use them when traveling myself. Washington Homeopathic has a 50 rx kit for $69.30 Can ($52.20 U.S.) also a nice kit with a booklet. And a 100 rx kit for ($92.40 U.S.) $122.66 Can (March 2004) Washington Homeopathic Products 33 Fairfax St., Berkeley Springs WV 25411 Orders only 1-800-336-1695 http://www.homeopathyworks.com/ http://www.homeocan.ca/ mixes http://www.drsandharshomeopathic.com/ a homeopathic pharmacy in Edmonton http://www.dolisos.ca/english/Products/Products.htm CANADIAN!! http://www.homeopathyovernight.com/fcatalog.html if you really need a remedy over night (though that service costs more) I found in Canada if was not overnight as the customs held it up thinking it was drugs of some kind needing a prescription. Would not want to have a sick dying dog and ordering there. also http://www.canadamedexpress.com/productpage3.asp would be perhaps a better place to order from. Helios has a nice kit with 36 rx which cost $60 Can. (March 2004) It comes in a sturdy plastic case which fit well in a purse and it also come with a little booklet. http://www.helios.co.uk/hh.html For books I suggest www.minimum.com With your first order they give you this extensive catalogue and I bought a lot of books, videos and cassette tapes, many more than on my school list of books. -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert [mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:47 AM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: RE: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection I forgot to add that I already use CS in a Nebulizer daily. I will try the 10 DMSO to see if this helps Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
Bob, Just an off the wall suggestion, but have you looked at everything in your environment lately, I mean even the things that are invisible? Last fall when I had the cold that lasted 4and a half weeks despite intensive use of CS, GSE, oregano oil, and everything else any one suggested, I later found that we had black mold in the dish soap liquid, so was washing everything that I ate off of and drank out of, in mold. sol Medwith, Robert wrote: I forgot to add that I already use CS in a Nebulizer daily. I will try the 10 DMSO to see if this helps Bob -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert [mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] Despite taking a 2 to 1 mix of Gatorade and CS I still got a recurring Sinus Infection. I am on Antibiotics. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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A big thank you, Louise, for the time you took to put these resources on the list! Due to a hard drive reformat, I had lost all my bookmarks. You just replaced most of my homeopathic sites. CS listers are very fine people! Sharon From: Louise lou...@raw-connections.com For a lot of the day to day little things and for emergencies you can do the treating yourself (for acutes of known causes) You can use this book for people and animals Everybody's Guide to Homeopathic Medicines by Stephen Cummings, MC and Dana Ullman, MPH coupled with a little 30C kit with Arnica 200C you will be able to help quite a lot of emergencies. http://www.abchomeopathy.com/go.php put in symptoms and get a remedy, but do check with Materia Medica how good a match it is. Do not assume this program is right. on line Materia Medica http://data.widgetworks.com:591/boericke/ or http://www.homeopathyworks.com/boericke.htm http://www.abchomeopathy.com/conditions.php/m http://www.vitalforce.org/repertory.html good repertory to match symptoms with suggestions to look up in Materia Medica. http://www.simillimum.com - click on 'First Aid Room Gives you a quick run down of the remedies to read (you need a good Materia Medica or keynotes. http://www.homeoint.org/books/allkeyn/index.htm A Canadian company in BC that is selling Phytopia Homeopathic Remedy Kits. Their Pharmacy kit contains 48 remedies, all of which were identified in class as 'must haves' for acute prescribing. The kit comes in a handy travel case, with 'cheat cards'. http://phytopia.biz/HomeopathyKits.html http://a2zhomeopathy.com/ several kits here and I use them when traveling myself. Washington Homeopathic has a 50 rx kit for $69.30 Can ($52.20 U.S.) also a nice kit with a booklet. And a 100 rx kit for ($92.40 U.S.) $122.66 Can (March 2004) Washington Homeopathic Products 33 Fairfax St., Berkeley Springs WV 25411 Orders only 1-800-336-1695 http://www.homeopathyworks.com/ http://www.homeocan.ca/ mixes http://www.drsandharshomeopathic.com/ a homeopathic pharmacy in Edmonton http://www.dolisos.ca/english/Products/Products.htm CANADIAN!! http://www.homeopathyovernight.com/fcatalog.html if you really need a remedy over night (though that service costs more) I found in Canada if was not overnight as the customs held it up thinking it was drugs of some kind needing a prescription. Would not want to have a sick dying dog and ordering there. also http://www.canadamedexpress.com/productpage3.asp would be perhaps a better place to order from. Helios has a nice kit with 36 rx which cost $60 Can. (March 2004) It comes in a sturdy plastic case which fit well in a purse and it also come with a little booklet. http://www.helios.co.uk/hh.html For books I suggest www.minimum.com With your first order they give you this extensive catalogue and I bought a lot of books, videos and cassette tapes, many more than on my school list of books. -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
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Louise, very nice post. I was wondering your opinion on Nebulizing a homeopathic remedy. Secondary do you have any opinions on Homotoxicology http://www.heelbhi.com/about_story_of_heel.html I am interested in this line of homeopathy as it more closely follows Traditional Chinese Medicine (I'm a licensed acupuncturist and herbalist) as to the stages of disease. The new German medicine (only briefy-briefy scanned) seems to follow along Pleomorphism Theories of Infectious Disease http://www.whale.to/v/pleomorphism.htm which IMO follows along TCM as well. Understood in the terms of Pleomorphism CS would not attack a virus directly as understood via western single germ theory but rather make the environment unfriendly towards any proliferation of the virus. Ed Kasper LAc. Licensed Acupuncturist Herbalist Acupuncture is a jab well done www.HappyHerbalist.com Santa Cruz, CA. -Original Message- From: Louise [mailto:lou...@raw-connections.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 5:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection In Germanic New Medicine it is a sign of a hanging healing conflict, I think it is I am fed up with this. So perhaps a change in attitude and some homeopathic remedies or Bach flower remedies for the emotions (though the homeopathic remedies can be useful as well for the sinus problem, but it chronic the emotional reasons need to be worked on. http://germannewmedicine.ca Another website that is also worth checking out is www.newmedicine.ca the homeopathic remedies depend for instance if t he colour our the snot if yellow green then it would be different than if it was clear for instance. See links or book recommendation below. Louise For a lot of the day to day little things and for emergencies you can do the treating yourself (for acutes of known causes) You can use this book for people and animals Everybody's Guide to Homeopathic Medicines by Stephen Cummings, MC and Dana Ullman, MPH coupled with a little 30C kit with Arnica 200C you will be able to help quite a lot of emergencies. http://www.abchomeopathy.com/go.php put in symptoms and get a remedy, but do check with Materia Medica how good a match it is. Do not assume this program is right. on line Materia Medica http://data.widgetworks.com:591/boericke/ or http://www.homeopathyworks.com/boericke.htm http://www.abchomeopathy.com/conditions.php/m http://www.vitalforce.org/repertory.html good repertory to match symptoms with suggestions to look up in Materia Medica. http://www.simillimum.com - click on 'First Aid Room Gives you a quick run down of the remedies to read (you need a good Materia Medica or keynotes. http://www.homeoint.org/books/allkeyn/index.htm A Canadian company in BC that is selling Phytopia Homeopathic Remedy Kits. Their Pharmacy kit contains 48 remedies, all of which were identified in class as 'must haves' for acute prescribing. The kit comes in a handy travel case, with 'cheat cards'. http://phytopia.biz/HomeopathyKits.html http://a2zhomeopathy.com/ several kits here and I use them when traveling myself. Washington Homeopathic has a 50 rx kit for $69.30 Can ($52.20 U.S.) also a nice kit with a booklet. And a 100 rx kit for ($92.40 U.S.) $122.66 Can (March 2004) Washington Homeopathic Products 33 Fairfax St., Berkeley Springs WV 25411 Orders only 1-800-336-1695 http://www.homeopathyworks.com/ http://www.homeocan.ca/ mixes http://www.drsandharshomeopathic.com/ a homeopathic pharmacy in Edmonton http://www.dolisos.ca/english/Products/Products.htm CANADIAN!! http://www.homeopathyovernight.com/fcatalog.html if you really need a remedy over night (though that service costs more) I found in Canada if was not overnight as the customs held it up thinking it was drugs of some kind needing a prescription. Would not want to have a sick dying dog and ordering there. also http://www.canadamedexpress.com/productpage3.asp would be perhaps a better place to order from. Helios has a nice kit with 36 rx which cost $60 Can. (March 2004) It comes in a sturdy plastic case which fit well in a purse and it also come with a little booklet. http://www.helios.co.uk/hh.html For books I suggest www.minimum.com With your first order they give you this extensive catalogue and I bought a lot of books, videos and cassette tapes, many more than on my school list of books. -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert [mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 6:47 AM To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' Subject: RE: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection I forgot to add that I already use CS in a Nebulizer daily. I will try the 10 DMSO to see if this helps Bob -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver
Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
- Original Message - From: Medwith, Robert robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil To: 'cs' silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 8:01 AM Subject: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection Despite taking a 2 to 1 mix of Gatorade and CS I still got a recurring Sinus Infection. I am on Antibiotics. What CS is inject able How would I inject Where would I inject, in leg thigh or in Vein What makes a certain CS safe for injection, is it filtered better or what. Considering injecting some CS but need to use right one and to do it right I wish I knew some one who would give CS in IV,s Thanks Bob Bob, Sinus infections can be quite nasty. Most are caused by mold or fungus. I had chronic sinusitis for years, sometimes so bad that I had to breathe through my mouth at night because my nose was so stopped up. Colloidal silver didn't do it for me. The first line of attack was Larrea tridentata, otherwise known as chapparal and made by a company called Shegoi. It's on my website under products. Taking Shegoi opened up my nose and eliminated about 75% of the sinus pain. However, I was living in a moldy house at the time and was constantly re-infecting myself. So I bought some great ozone equipment from Plasmafire in Canada and began insufflating ozone into both ears daily. Within a week, a great deal of the mold was killed. My ears stopped itching and my sinuses opened up even more. Even my thinking was clearer because the ozone reached my brain. I will contact you off-list about CS that is of high enough quality to be injected. I do NOT recommend that you try to inject it yourself. Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing and The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy ORDER BOTH AT http://www.nenahsylver.com Also: Holistic Health Products, Supplements, Services -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
RE: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
Hi Bob, Sorry about your problem but I'm delighted that you shared it with the wonderful, generous, experienced Experts on this and other Sites who without giving medical advice, share their experiences and benefits of many treatments and experiments for you to examine and decide which might apply to you. Dr. Nenah is one of these Experts and I admire and appreciate her advice very much--as she and others share with us seekers. Bob, I'd move Injecting CS down on my treatment agenda pending some of these other suggestions and definiitely, I'd urge you to find a Medical Professional with specific CS injection experience to help you with it. In addition to her advice and experiences, I would suggest that if I had your problem, I would add MSM and/or DMSO to the nasal sprays or inhalations in conjunction with oral 1 part CS (10 ppm) + 2 parts Gatorade (as an electrolyte that will carry the CS deeper into body tissues than CS can reach alone. (I'll share any of these formulas with you upon request); I would also go to microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com and at the bottom, bG is kind enough to share Photos, sketches for your own construction (should you have sufficient confidence and ability to construct your own unit), together with many extremely helpful ways to use these units, including Godzilla, etc. My wife and I got V at vzo...@yahoo.com to construct our Godzilla/BECK zapper/ziller 2 years ago for less than $100 including SH and we've experienced many healing helps with it. In reading archives of these Sites, you'll find many who have received wonderful recovery from problems like yours. In addition to oral CS dosing, I would apply wet soaks on white paper or cloth--folded to size over forehead, sinuses and cheeks--for at least 30 minutes several times a day. I would also check my food intake, assuring nothing that might cause allergy to YOU. Read my Sites below and let me know if I can be of help. I recommend that everyone make their own CS to assure top quality and economy; however, if you choose to purchase it, my CS/H2O2 10 ppm is clear, with a nice red Tyndall effect using a Red Laser light; I sell 1 gal for $25 + SH and would appreciate your order. Sincerely, ___ Richard Harris, 57 Year FL Pharmacist 448 West Juniata Street Clermont, FL 34711 www.rharrisinc.com http://www.seasilver.com/reh http://healthandhealing.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Nenah Sylver [mailto:ne...@bestweb.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 8:46 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection - Original Message - From: Medwith, Robert robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil To: 'cs' silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 8:01 AM Subject: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection Despite taking a 2 to 1 mix of Gatorade and CS I still got a recurring Sinus Infection. I am on Antibiotics. What CS is inject able How would I inject Where would I inject, in leg thigh or in Vein What makes a certain CS safe for injection, is it filtered better or what. Considering injecting some CS but need to use right one and to do it right I wish I knew some one who would give CS in IV,s Thanks Bob Bob, Sinus infections can be quite nasty. Most are caused by mold or fungus. I had chronic sinusitis for years, sometimes so bad that I had to breathe through my mouth at night because my nose was so stopped up. Colloidal silver didn't do it for me. The first line of attack was Larrea tridentata, otherwise known as chapparal and made by a company called Shegoi. It's on my website under products. Taking Shegoi opened up my nose and eliminated about 75% of the sinus pain. However, I was living in a moldy house at the time and was constantly re-infecting myself. So I bought some great ozone equipment from Plasmafire in Canada and began insufflating ozone into both ears daily. Within a week, a great deal of the mold was killed. My ears stopped itching and my sinuses opened up even more. Even my thinking was clearer because the ozone reached my brain. I will contact you off-list about CS that is of high enough quality to be injected. I do NOT recommend that you try to inject it yourself. Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing and The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy ORDER BOTH AT http://www.nenahsylver.com Also: Holistic Health Products, Supplements, Services -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
Medwith, Robert wrote: Despite taking a 2 to 1 mix of Gatorade and CS I still got a recurring Sinus Infection.I am on Antibiotics.What CS is inject able How would I injectWhere would I inject, in leg thigh or in VeinWhat makes a certain CS safe for injection, is it filtered better or what.Considering injecting some CS but need to use right one and to do it rightI wish I knew some one who would give CS in IV,s Thanks Bob How are you taking it. I am not sure I would use gatorade in the sinuses. For sinuses you need direct contact, which means snorting it, holding your head back and using a dropper, or misting. Oral has minimal effect on sinus infections from my experience. Marshall
Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
- Original Message - From: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Cc: Richard Harris yr...@cfl.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:58 AM Subject: RE: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection Hi Bob, Sorry about your problem but I'm delighted that you shared it with the wonderful, generous, experienced Experts on this and other Sites who without giving medical advice, share their experiences and benefits of many treatments and experiments for you to examine and decide which might apply to you. Dr. Nenah is one of these Experts and I admire and appreciate her advice very much--as she and others share with us seekers. Bob, I'd move Injecting CS down on my treatment agenda pending some of these other suggestions and definiitely, I'd urge you to find a Medical Professional with specific CS injection experience to help you with it. Thank you Richard, for the kind words. In addition to her advice and experiences, I would suggest that if I had your problem, I would add MSM and/or DMSO to the nasal sprays or inhalations in conjunction with oral 1 part CS (10 ppm) + 2 parts Gatorade (as an electrolyte that will carry the CS deeper into body tissues than CS can reach alone. (I'll share any of these formulas with you upon request); I would also go to microelectricitygermkil...@yahoogroups.com and at the bottom, bG is kind enough to share Photos, sketches for your own construction (should you have sufficient confidence and ability to construct your own unit), together with many extremely helpful ways to use these units, including Godzilla, etc. My wife and I got V at vzo...@yahoo.com to construct our Godzilla/BECK zapper/ziller 2 years ago for less than $100 including SH and we've experienced many healing helps with it. In reading archives of these Sites, you'll find many who have received wonderful recovery from problems like yours. While many people get great results with Gatorade, I have always had reservations about drinking something with sugar in it -- especially because sinus infections are very tenacious and sugar will only feed the fungus. What about an electrolyte drink that doesn't contain sugar? I like Fulvic Mineral Complex from Vital Earth. In addition to oral CS dosing, I would apply wet soaks on white paper or cloth--folded to size over forehead, sinuses and cheeks--for at least 30 minutes several times a day. I would also check my food intake, assuring nothing that might cause allergy to YOU. Richard, your post reminded me that you can also put the DMSO on the cloth that's soaked in CS and being applied to the sinuses. A general ratio is 10 parts CS to 1 part DMSO. People whose skin itches from the drying effects of the DMSO could put aloe vera on the skin when they're finished. Best, Nenah Nenah Sylver, PhD author, The Handbook of Rife Frequency Healing and The Holistic Handbook of Sauna Therapy ORDER BOTH AT http://www.nenahsylver.com Also: Holistic Health Products, Supplements, Services -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
Try some sinus washes iwth CS, CS/with a little DMSO, CS with xylitol. Also get a small mister bottle mist eyes, inhale as much of the mist as possible, mist throat. Gargle with CS with a little DMSO, hold the CS in the mouth/under the tongue for as long as possible before swallowing. Purchase a nebulizer and nebulize with a mix of CS/MSM/DMSO several times per day. These are all things I have done. I have had two colds since starting use of CS, but have NEVER gotten a secondary sinus infection nor lung involvement. Simply swallowing CS just doesn't work as well as the other things. But one of the keys is frequency. Don't forget CS has to be in contact with pathogens to kill them. The longer you can keep it in contact and the more frequent that contact is, the better. My personal opinion is to try to inject yourself with CS is nuts. If you had a surface wound or abscess, or a wart or something and wanted to inject that with CS with an insulin syringe, I could see it. But otherwise, or to try IV at home, is nuts. My opinion. sol Medwith, Robert wrote: Despite taking a 2 to 1 mix of Gatorade and CS I still got a recurring Sinus Infection. I am on Antibiotics. What CS is inject able How would I inject Where would I inject, in leg thigh or in Vein What makes a certain CS safe for injection, is it filtered better or what. Considering injecting some CS but need to use right one and to do it right I wish I knew some one who would give CS in IV,s Thanks Bob No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com
Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
Hi Bob, I have a friend who had a sinus infection problem. I layed out an application for him with CS and he no longer has them. You need an atomizer and a dropper bottle. every 30 minutes use the dropper in each nostril place it far enough up that you feel it drip down into your throat then use the Atomizer with three sprays in each nostril make sure you get it well into the nose before spraying. Make sure you hold your head back with this approach. Do this for 2 days straight and see if it does for you what it did for my friend. Remember we are all different so not every application works for every person. You sometimes have to experiment to find the one that works for your specific ailment. Good Luck Shawn Rand - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection Try some sinus washes iwth CS, CS/with a little DMSO, CS with xylitol. Also get a small mister bottle mist eyes, inhale as much of the mist as possible, mist throat. Gargle with CS with a little DMSO, hold the CS in the mouth/under the tongue for as long as possible before swallowing. Purchase a nebulizer and nebulize with a mix of CS/MSM/DMSO several times per day. These are all things I have done. I have had two colds since starting use of CS, but have NEVER gotten a secondary sinus infection nor lung involvement. Simply swallowing CS just doesn't work as well as the other things. But one of the keys is frequency. Don't forget CS has to be in contact with pathogens to kill them. The longer you can keep it in contact and the more frequent that contact is, the better. My personal opinion is to try to inject yourself with CS is nuts. If you had a surface wound or abscess, or a wart or something and wanted to inject that with CS with an insulin syringe, I could see it. But otherwise, or to try IV at home, is nuts. My opinion. sol Medwith, Robert wrote: Despite taking a 2 to 1 mix of Gatorade and CS I still got a recurring Sinus Infection. I am on Antibiotics. What CS is inject able How would I inject Where would I inject, in leg thigh or in Vein What makes a certain CS safe for injection, is it filtered better or what. Considering injecting some CS but need to use right one and to do it right I wish I knew some one who would give CS in IV,s Thanks Bob No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.3.0 - Release Date: 2/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005
Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
I had never had a sinus infection until a month ago. Until then I thought those who had one were exaggerating their discomfort. I hung my head over the side of the bed and filled each nostril with CS/DMSO and held it for about 8 min. It only took one application. I started to get relief within minutes. The next morning it was gone. Bob Smith - Original Message - From: Shawn Rand compline...@comcast.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 3:59 PM Subject: Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection Hi Bob, I have a friend who had a sinus infection problem. I layed out an application for him with CS and he no longer has them. You need an atomizer and a dropper bottle. every 30 minutes use the dropper in each nostril place it far enough up that you feel it drip down into your throat then use the Atomizer with three sprays in each nostril make sure you get it well into the nose before spraying. Make sure you hold your head back with this approach. Do this for 2 days straight and see if it does for you what it did for my friend. Remember we are all different so not every application works for every person. You sometimes have to experiment to find the one that works for your specific ailment. Good Luck Shawn Rand - Original Message - From: sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection Try some sinus washes iwth CS, CS/with a little DMSO, CS with xylitol. Also get a small mister bottle mist eyes, inhale as much of the mist as possible, mist throat. Gargle with CS with a little DMSO, hold the CS in the mouth/under the tongue for as long as possible before swallowing. Purchase a nebulizer and nebulize with a mix of CS/MSM/DMSO several times per day. These are all things I have done. I have had two colds since starting use of CS, but have NEVER gotten a secondary sinus infection nor lung involvement. Simply swallowing CS just doesn't work as well as the other things. But one of the keys is frequency. Don't forget CS has to be in contact with pathogens to kill them. The longer you can keep it in contact and the more frequent that contact is, the better. My personal opinion is to try to inject yourself with CS is nuts. If you had a surface wound or abscess, or a wart or something and wanted to inject that with CS with an insulin syringe, I could see it. But otherwise, or to try IV at home, is nuts. My opinion. sol Medwith, Robert wrote: Despite taking a 2 to 1 mix of Gatorade and CS I still got a recurring Sinus Infection. I am on Antibiotics. What CS is inject able How would I inject Where would I inject, in leg thigh or in Vein What makes a certain CS safe for injection, is it filtered better or what. Considering injecting some CS but need to use right one and to do it right I wish I knew some one who would give CS in IV,s Thanks Bob No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005 -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: silver-list@eskimo.com Silver List archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html Address Off-Topic messages to: silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com OT Archive: http://escribe.com/health/silverofftopiclist/index.html List maintainer: Mike Devour mdev...@eskimo.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.3.0 - Release Date: 2/21/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.4.0 - Release Date: 2/22/2005
RE: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
DO NOT READ ANY PART OF THIS POST UNLESS YOU READ AND HEED IT ALL. There is no need to shoot CS. Nebulize it, using a simple nebulizer and either clean compressed air or O2. Do not use an ordinary air compressor, because it will put oil in your lungs. You can get the same blood levels without the stick, the danger, and the need for restricted equipment. DO NOT start taking silver this way. First, take increasing small doses by mouth, say one TBS. Then wait a few hours, and take 2. If symptoms increase dramatically, back off, and then start upping the dose again. Killing some pathogens results in the release of toxins when the pathogen cell wall breaks. When you no longer show the Herx reaction, start the nebulizing. Specifically for the sinus: Make a mix of your favorite known good-quality CS with no more than 10% by volume DMSO. This is not critical. Lay on a bed, couch, whatever, on your back. Place a chair or other support next to what you are lying on. Put a cushion on it to keep from pressing too hard on your scalp. With your head upside down, use a nose dropper to flood the nasal area with the CS/DMSO. Be careful, you can choke if you inhale suddenly. Have others help you.Turn your head to one side in increments as you flow in the liquid, so that it covers different areas of the nasal passages. You can tilt your head to make the fluid go to where the pain is, and direct it to the entrance to the eustacian tubes. When you have waited as long as is comfortable, sit up and blow your nose. Persons with back, cervical bone, and nerve problems should receive special examination, advice and assistance from qualified medical practitioners before bending their head back like this. You may also do this by bending your head forward, but it is harder to relax and maintain the position. Other conditions permitting, you can do this with an inversion device. The goal is to flood the nose with the CS/DMSO. Some serous conditions may not permit this position, so use your sense, and get advice, especially if you are already fairly racked up. The more often you do this, the sooner the infection will go away. I suppose there may be contraindications to nebulizing anything, under some circumstances. I would suspect that Congestive Heart Failure might be such a condition. Ask a Doc that you can be candid with, or a trustworthy respiratory therapist. So far, this has not failed to reduce or eliminate symptoms short-range. Long range sinus treatment is another story, and one that I am not qualified to discuss. It reduces pain greatly, if only for a while. Good fortune to you. -Original Message- From: Medwith, Robert [mailto:robert.j.medw...@us.army.mil] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 6:02 AM To: 'cs' Subject: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection Despite taking a 2 to 1 mix of Gatorade and CS I still got a recurring Sinus Infection. I am on Antibiotics. What CS is inject able How would I inject Where would I inject, in leg thigh or in Vein What makes a certain CS safe for injection, is it filtered better or what. Considering injecting some CS but need to use right one and to do it right I wish I knew some one who would give CS in IV,s Thanks Bob
Re: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection
MessageThere is ONLY ONE CS that I would trust in my veins. That is Argentyn 23 by Natural Immunogenics in Miami Florida. I don't see how that would do anything for your sinuses? You should spray CS in your nose, put drops of CS in each ear and hold it there as long as possible. This is going to get the CS where the bacteria isThat is the only way to kill bacteria with CSdirect contact. Also, nebulizing is great. I don't see what effect you would get with and IV for your sinuses. Where do you live? - Original Message - From: Medwith, Robert To: 'cs' Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 7:01 AM Subject: CSHELP PLEASE Sinus Infection Despite taking a 2 to 1 mix of Gatorade and CS I still got a recurring Sinus Infection. I am on Antibiotics. What CS is inject able How would I inject Where would I inject, in leg thigh or in Vein What makes a certain CS safe for injection, is it filtered better or what. Considering injecting some CS but need to use right one and to do it right I wish I knew some one who would give CS in IV,s Thanks Bob